Cracks in the atheist edifice...Christianity growing by leaps and bounds

It's funny, I'm always hearing how Christianity is a *dying* faith, that the church is dwindling.

Of course it's not true..the church is growing exponentially. In countries that are moving forward, away from depravity, oppression, and violence.

We're moving the opposite direction..but the atheists in this country who are ignorant to begin with, and who have no comprehension of the world outside their tiny little air conditioned, state subsidized spheres, only see what is happening in our tiny corner of the world..and so think that the fact that we are moving away from Christianity #1, means the whole world is moving away, and #2, is indicative of PROGRESS, rather than the exact opposite.

"Christianity is hard to control in China, and getting harder all the time. It is spreading rapidly, and infiltrating the party’s own ranks."

"There were perhaps 3m Catholics and 1m Protestants when the party came to power in 1949. Officials now say there are between 23m and 40m, all told. In 2010 the Pew Research Centre, an American polling organisation, estimated there were 58m Protestants and 9m Catholics. Many experts, foreign and Chinese, now accept that there are probably more Christians than there are members of the 87m-strong Communist Party. Most are evangelical Protestants."

Religion in China Cracks in the atheist edifice The Economist

As an atheist....I really don't care. I don't care whether Christianity is finding converts in China, I don't care whether you are losing members in the U.S.

Simply not important to me either way.
Why must non believers express their beliefs with such anger and vitriol?
Now I am not claiming this applies to you, but as we have seen most other agnostics and atheists refer to believers giving off the impression they are chewing up and spitting nails.
Some of your kind even express the idea that believers should be annihilated
 
You seem to be very ignorant of where Christianity came from. Do you even know where Christianity came from?

I know, and why would an asshole like you even care?
If you know please tell us. Why would an asshole like you care why I care?
I asked you first asshole. Is there an echo in here?
Yes you echoed Koshergirl asshole.

Like me, and unlike you, he can read and comprehend what he reads.

Schlep, we are smart, but we aren't smart enough to read your mind. We only have what you write to work with, and often, what you write, and what you're thinking (and what you think you wrote) are not one and the same.

Ebonics was not adopted by the country.
Sounds like one grand diversion. I will ask you in unmistakable terms. Where did the idea of Christianity come from?
 
So more people are believing in the invisible sky fairy no one can prove exists? That doesnt surprise me as people look everywhere for meaning in life but never in the right place.
Why are you libs only targeting Christianity while giving other religions a hall pass?
Do you refer to the deity worshiped by Islam as "the sky fairy"?
Buhdists? Jews? Hindus?
I sure do.....and who are Buhdists?
He and Kosherchick are functionally illiterate.
 
So more people are believing in the invisible sky fairy no one can prove exists? That doesnt surprise me as people look everywhere for meaning in life but never in the right place.
Why are you libs only targeting Christianity while giving other religions a hall pass?
Do you refer to the deity worshiped by Islam as "the sky fairy"?
Buhdists? Jews? Hindus?
Because you specifically brought up Christianity. Yes I call all gods sky fairies.
So would you be willing to walk up to a militant Islamist and tell him that to his face?
 
So more people are believing in the invisible sky fairy no one can prove exists? That doesnt surprise me as people look everywhere for meaning in life but never in the right place.
Why are you libs only targeting Christianity while giving other religions a hall pass?
Do you refer to the deity worshiped by Islam as "the sky fairy"?
Buhdists? Jews? Hindus?
I sure do.....and who are Buhdists?
He and Kosherchick are functionally illiterate.
Ahh..Out of gas already.
 
So more people are believing in the invisible sky fairy no one can prove exists? That doesnt surprise me as people look everywhere for meaning in life but never in the right place.
Why are you libs only targeting Christianity while giving other religions a hall pass?
Do you refer to the deity worshiped by Islam as "the sky fairy"?
Buhdists? Jews? Hindus?
Because you specifically brought up Christianity. Yes I call all gods sky fairies.
So would you be willing to walk up to a militant Islamist and tell him that to his face?
Yes. Especially if he was browbeating me into becoming a Muslim.
 
I know, and why would an asshole like you even care?
If you know please tell us. Why would an asshole like you care why I care?
I asked you first asshole. Is there an echo in here?
Yes you echoed Koshergirl asshole.

Like me, and unlike you, he can read and comprehend what he reads.

Schlep, we are smart, but we aren't smart enough to read your mind. We only have what you write to work with, and often, what you write, and what you're thinking (and what you think you wrote) are not one and the same.

Ebonics was not adopted by the country.
Sounds like one grand diversion. I will ask you in unmistakable terms. Where did the idea of Christianity come from?

There is no *idea* of Christianity. Christianity didn't spring from an *idea*.

The prophets told us in the OT that a Messiah would come, and the Messiah came.

Many people were converted by Christ himself, and many more by his apostles...and thus Christianity was born.
 
So more people are believing in the invisible sky fairy no one can prove exists? That doesnt surprise me as people look everywhere for meaning in life but never in the right place.
Why are you libs only targeting Christianity while giving other religions a hall pass?
Do you refer to the deity worshiped by Islam as "the sky fairy"?
Buhdists? Jews? Hindus?
I sure do.....and who are Buhdists?
He and Kosherchick are functionally illiterate.
Ahh..Out of gas already.
Out of Hooked on Phonics already?
 
You would think.

Sadly, it isn't true. The anti-Christians who call themselves "atheists" truly are religious zealots. They just aren't "Christians".

There are zealots in both camps as well. I have been condemned and called all sorts of things by "christians". And many atheists make my skin crawl.

I don't do relativism. I find people use it to justify all sorts of garbage, and it's generally an excuse to get out of actually making any sort of judgement call ever.

I think it should be obvious by now that I have no problem making a judgement. But I do see zealots in both camps. I also see good people in both camps.

Good people allowed the Nazis to kill a lot of innocents. Good people currently are supporting Islamic terrorism.

I don't have much use for good, misguided, people.

Good christians allowed the Nazis to kill a lot of innocents too. And good christians are supporting all sorts of ill in the world, including Islamic terrorism (at least financially, by what they buy).
 
If you know please tell us. Why would an asshole like you care why I care?
I asked you first asshole. Is there an echo in here?
Yes you echoed Koshergirl asshole.

Like me, and unlike you, he can read and comprehend what he reads.

Schlep, we are smart, but we aren't smart enough to read your mind. We only have what you write to work with, and often, what you write, and what you're thinking (and what you think you wrote) are not one and the same.

Ebonics was not adopted by the country.
Sounds like one grand diversion. I will ask you in unmistakable terms. Where did the idea of Christianity come from?

There is no *idea* of Christianity. Christianity didn't spring from an *idea*.

The prophets told us in the OT that a Messiah would come, and the Messiah came.

Many people were converted by Christ himself, and many more by his apostles...and thus Christianity was born.
So you really a think a guy that had a vision predicted Jesus? If you were a mental health specialist what would you call a guy that walked up to you and said that? Did it ever occur to you that everything about your religion is based on what someone (that could have possibly been high) said he saw in a vision?
 
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So your Messiah goes to church. Is he included in your atheist rant?
There is one constant in this world. Libs are hypocritical bullshit artists.
I smell a deflection from the OP. If someone is an atheist they have no messiah.
Nice try. Midcan worships the Obama family.
Nice try. This has nothing to do with your outstanding POTUS. Get back on topic asshole. We are tallking about atheists, China, and Christianity.
 
It's funny, I'm always hearing how Christianity is a *dying* faith, that the church is dwindling.

Of course it's not true..the church is growing exponentially. In countries that are moving forward, away from depravity, oppression, and violence.

We're moving the opposite direction..but the atheists in this country who are ignorant to begin with, and who have no comprehension of the world outside their tiny little air conditioned, state subsidized spheres, only see what is happening in our tiny corner of the world..and so think that the fact that we are moving away from Christianity #1, means the whole world is moving away, and #2, is indicative of PROGRESS, rather than the exact opposite.

"Christianity is hard to control in China, and getting harder all the time. It is spreading rapidly, and infiltrating the party’s own ranks."

"There were perhaps 3m Catholics and 1m Protestants when the party came to power in 1949. Officials now say there are between 23m and 40m, all told. In 2010 the Pew Research Centre, an American polling organisation, estimated there were 58m Protestants and 9m Catholics. Many experts, foreign and Chinese, now accept that there are probably more Christians than there are members of the 87m-strong Communist Party. Most are evangelical Protestants."

Religion in China Cracks in the atheist edifice The Economist

As an atheist....I really don't care. I don't care whether Christianity is finding converts in China, I don't care whether you are losing members in the U.S.

Simply not important to me either way.
Why must non believers express their beliefs with such anger and vitriol?
Now I am not claiming this applies to you, but as we have seen most other agnostics and atheists refer to believers giving off the impression they are chewing up and spitting nails.
Some of your kind even express the idea that believers should be annihilated

'my kind'?

I have seen Christians tell atheists that they believe atheists should be tormented for eternity.

Why are you asking me about anger and vitriol- when I am not expressing either?

I am not asking you why some Christians respond to atheists with anger and vitriol.
 
I asked you first asshole. Is there an echo in here?
Yes you echoed Koshergirl asshole.

Like me, and unlike you, he can read and comprehend what he reads.

Schlep, we are smart, but we aren't smart enough to read your mind. We only have what you write to work with, and often, what you write, and what you're thinking (and what you think you wrote) are not one and the same.

Ebonics was not adopted by the country.
Sounds like one grand diversion. I will ask you in unmistakable terms. Where did the idea of Christianity come from?

There is no *idea* of Christianity. Christianity didn't spring from an *idea*.

The prophets told us in the OT that a Messiah would come, and the Messiah came.

Many people were converted by Christ himself, and many more by his apostles...and thus Christianity was born.
So you really a think a guy that had a vision predicted Jesus. If you were a mental health specialist what would you call a guy that walked up to you and said that? Did it ever occur to you that everything about your religion is based on what someone (that could have possibly been high) said he saw in a vision?

Again.

The prophets prophesied about the coming of a Messiah. The prophesies were made long, long before Christ was born. His birth fulfilled the prophesies.

People familiar with the prophesies intimately (Jews) and many others accepted Him as the Messiah. They were converted after hearing him speak (they were converted by the THOUSANDS at a time), after listening to him speak in the synagogues, or upon seeing or being the recipient of miracles.

They believed despite the fact that they were risking their lives to do so, and early Christians, then as now, were persecuted brutally. Christ and all save one of the apostles suffered violent, excruciating deaths.

And the religion spread like wildfire, and continues to spread.

Christianity was born.
 
I know a lot of people, people I work with, friends, family, and I don't know a single person who goes to church. When I was a kid, EVERYONE went to church, but very few people do these days. Religion is dying extremely fast.
 
Yes you echoed Koshergirl asshole.

Like me, and unlike you, he can read and comprehend what he reads.

Schlep, we are smart, but we aren't smart enough to read your mind. We only have what you write to work with, and often, what you write, and what you're thinking (and what you think you wrote) are not one and the same.

Ebonics was not adopted by the country.
Sounds like one grand diversion. I will ask you in unmistakable terms. Where did the idea of Christianity come from?

There is no *idea* of Christianity. Christianity didn't spring from an *idea*.

The prophets told us in the OT that a Messiah would come, and the Messiah came.

Many people were converted by Christ himself, and many more by his apostles...and thus Christianity was born.
So you really a think a guy that had a vision predicted Jesus. If you were a mental health specialist what would you call a guy that walked up to you and said that? Did it ever occur to you that everything about your religion is based on what someone (that could have possibly been high) said he saw in a vision?

Again.

The prophets prophesied about the coming of a Messiah. The prophesies were made long, long before Christ was born. His birth fulfilled the prophesies.

People familiar with the prophesies intimately (Jews) and many others accepted Him as the Messiah. They were converted after hearing him speak (they were converted by the THOUSANDS at a time), after listening to him speak in the synagogues, or upon seeing or being the recipient of miracles.

They believed despite the fact that they were risking their lives to do so, and early Christians, then as now, were persecuted brutally. Christ and all save one of the apostles suffered violent, excruciating deaths.

And the religion spread like wildfire, and continues to spread.

Christianity was born.

Just because someone hallucinated that a messiah was coming doest mean it actually happened. Has anyone found Jesus yet? How about those mysterious prophets? Were are they buried at? Why is there no proof? Why is the bible wrong about the age of the earth?
 
You keep arguing faulty premises.

See, nobody hallucinated a messiah.

You ask a question, then you pretend that the answer was something different.

That's not how intelligent people discuss important topics, schlep. Argue to the points being made, and if you have a statement to make, make it...instead of pretending that your POV is an *accepted* or *factual* or even *logical* one.
 
Like me, and unlike you, he can read and comprehend what he reads.

Schlep, we are smart, but we aren't smart enough to read your mind. We only have what you write to work with, and often, what you write, and what you're thinking (and what you think you wrote) are not one and the same.

Ebonics was not adopted by the country.
Sounds like one grand diversion. I will ask you in unmistakable terms. Where did the idea of Christianity come from?

There is no *idea* of Christianity. Christianity didn't spring from an *idea*.

The prophets told us in the OT that a Messiah would come, and the Messiah came.

Many people were converted by Christ himself, and many more by his apostles...and thus Christianity was born.
So you really a think a guy that had a vision predicted Jesus. If you were a mental health specialist what would you call a guy that walked up to you and said that? Did it ever occur to you that everything about your religion is based on what someone (that could have possibly been high) said he saw in a vision?

Again.

The prophets prophesied about the coming of a Messiah. The prophesies were made long, long before Christ was born. His birth fulfilled the prophesies.

People familiar with the prophesies intimately (Jews) and many others accepted Him as the Messiah. They were converted after hearing him speak (they were converted by the THOUSANDS at a time), after listening to him speak in the synagogues, or upon seeing or being the recipient of miracles.

They believed despite the fact that they were risking their lives to do so, and early Christians, then as now, were persecuted brutally. Christ and all save one of the apostles suffered violent, excruciating deaths.

And the religion spread like wildfire, and continues to spread.

Christianity was born.

Just because someone hallucinated that a messiah was coming doest mean it actually happened. Has anyone found Jesus yet? How about those mysterious prophets? Were are they buried at? Why is there no proof? Why is the bible wrong about the age of the earth?


Where is the proof that Julius Caesar existed?

Where's he buried at?
 
How about Alexander the Great?

Where's he buried at?

Where's the proof that he existed?

Are you denying that people converted to Christianity?

Because the question you asked me wasn't whether or not God was real.

It was if I knew the origins of Christianity.

And I do.

What part of my account do you think is not true? Why don't you state which part of my account you disagree with, and then ask for a rebuttal?

I know why.

Because you're functionally illiterate. You don't understand how people communicate. And you don't understand what's going on when you attempt to communicate with people.
 

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