Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Unlock unbeatable offers today. Shop here: https://amzn.to/4cEkqYs 🎁
Seems that way, hm, it's funny that Jesus was ok with taxes, believed everyone should be fed regardless of if they work or not, believed in helping and healing everyone, believed that the rich should give everything away to the poor..I am SO proud to NOT be a RW.
Anybody wanna bet that the RWs posted above all call themselves "christian"?
Didn't Jesus state "the poor will always be with us"?
Do you Christians think that Jesus would approve of making homeless people into criminals simply because they're poor?
Didn't Jesus state "the poor will always be with us"?
Do you Christians think that Jesus would approve of making homeless people into criminals simply because they're poor?
It's always funny when a pagan tries to tell me what Jesus would or would not say, when he didn't say anything about a given topic.
He did say "he which made them at the beginning made them male and female", but throughout the entire Bible, I can't find a single reference to vagrancy laws.
In fact, the only referrence I can point to, says specifically for us to not be like that.
Luke 22:25-26
“The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them, and those in authority over them are called benefactors. But not so with you."
In other words, the pagan politicians run around saying "We help everyone!" and we're not to be like them.
My personal view, which isn't based on the Bible because I don't see it in the Bible, is that my issue is with harassment and fraud.
Homeless makes $100,000 a year, doing his homeless shtick.
In fact, the UK liberals were stupid enough to try and disprove the homeless shtick in their country, and did some research. Instead of proving the poor beggars were really homeless helpless needy people, they found the opposite.
City where just one in ten beggars is sleeping rough
Only one in about 10 beggars badgering people on the street for money, actually were homeless. Everyone else had a place to be. They just flat out didn't want to work.
That's one of the reasons you can't get the government to research how many homeless beggars are actually homeless here. They know the answers would be shocking in the wrong direction.
I have no problem helping people who are in real need. But most are fraudsters scamming people. And I certainly have a huge issue with people intentionally harassing people.
Years and years ago, I used to go to a Chinese buffet for lunch down town. One day, there were these two guys, shaking people down for money. Normally, there was only one of them. But this day, there were two of them, and this is before I had my CCW. They cornered me between two cars in the parking lot, with one in front, and the other came up behind me, and they were very insistent that they wanted (spare change), and quite honestly, I was concerned for my safety.
I never went back there again. That business owner lost a consistent repeat customer forever.
Now it's pretty easy for you, whose livelihood and income are not dependent on customers, to say that other people shouldn't be allowed to remove beggars. If it was your job on the line, and your family who would end up suffering because some guy was harassing your customers.... you would be singing a different tune altogether.
"“Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”"
“Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.”
“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”
“And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.”
“Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.”
“Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.”
“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.”
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.”
"I say unto you, Love your
enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute you;"
"Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."
"You cannot serve both God and Money."
"If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. "
"But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed,
because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just."
“Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?”
“But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?”
“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”
But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.”
“Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”
Really???Unbelievable. Unfucking believable. This post astounds me, it blows my freaking mind, the lunacy and hatred of the right wing, you have now found a way to hate homeless veterans. No one said homeless veterans need a middle class lifestyle with government money, but public housing, government employment programs, welfare, these all help the homeless, and this thread is about people criminalizing, essentially, living as a homeless person. How low can you go? Obama shelling out his own money? Ah, the go to defense of every rabid right winger who believes that one person can drastically affect an entire population. Obama is the president of the united states, he is an elected official, he puts forth realistic proposals, and it is not realistic for him to give a virtually insignificant amount of money to help a couple of veterans when he can propose a plan that will bring tens of thousands on their feet.Yes, because president Obama is personally responsible for all homeless people..Being homeless isn't a crime...Good!
Criminalizing Homelessness Can Now Cost Cities Federal Money
After arguing last month that local ordinances criminalizing people for being homeless are unconstitutional, the Obama administration will now tie federal funding to whether municipalities are cracking down on criminalization measures.
Every year, the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) gives out $1.9 billion in grants to local Continuums of Care, public-private partnerships that tackle homelessness in a specific area. These grants are doled out in a competitive process whereby applicants must fill out a lengthy questionnaire about how they plan to use the money, as well as their current policies.
Last week, though, HUD announced that it would begin asking applicants to describe the steps they are taking to reduce the criminalization of homelessness. Ordinances that criminalize homelessness, also known as “anti-vagrancy” or “quality of life” laws, include making it illegal to sit down on a sidewalk, ask passersby for spare change, or sleep in a public place. Applicants for the federal money will have to show they are engaging with local policymakers or law enforcement about criminalization policies, as well as implementing new community plans to ensure homelessness is not criminalized. Failing to combat such ordinances will hurt a Continuum of Care’s chances of winning new funds.
The change comes after the administration filed a brief in federal court arguing that criminalization violates the Eighth Amendment’s protections against cruel and unusual punishment.
Maria Foscarinis, Executive Director of the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty, hailed the latest move. “We welcome the federal government’s direction of tax limited dollars to the places that will most effectively use that money to address homelessness,” Foscarinis said in a statement. She also noted that HUD is giving sufficient weight to criminalization policies that the question “in many cases could be the difference between receiving funding and not.”
The Obama administration has made a pattern of connecting federal funding to desired outcomes in localities. Its signature education achievement, Race to the Top, encouraged schools across the country to raise their standards by making it a prerequisite to receive more federal funding. Obamacare ties some hospital funding to how effectively they avoid preventable infections and patient re-admissions. Homeless advocates hope that connecting HUD funding to the fight against homeless criminalization will have a similar impact.
Boosting the poverty rate like Obozo did and putting more people there like he did, is criminal.
Can we arrest him now???
Here's some facts:
Veterans & Military Families
President Obama Proposes Historic New Investments to End Homelessness | Featured Articles | Media Center
Obama says veteran homelessness has been cut by a third - AND THIS IS WITH REPUBLICANS BLOCKING VETERANS BILLS.
I don't want to eliminate homelessness by screwing over the working people, forcing them to live impoverished lives.
That's not a win, but that's exactly what you propose. "yeah let's give every veteran a middle class life style on government money!" And who pays for that? "You working suckers, of course! Shut up and pay up, or you are greedy".
No, you people are the greedy people. You don't see Obama shelling out his own money for any veterans do you. And I certainly don't see you obama supporters shelling out your money. You just screw the working people over. Make us pay, because we get up at 3 AM and go to a job. Thanks you scum sucking human trash.
Good!
Criminalizing Homelessness Can Now Cost Cities Federal Money
After arguing last month that local ordinances criminalizing people for being homeless are unconstitutional, the Obama administration will now tie federal funding to whether municipalities are cracking down on criminalization measures.
Every year, the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) gives out $1.9 billion in grants to local Continuums of Care, public-private partnerships that tackle homelessness in a specific area. These grants are doled out in a competitive process whereby applicants must fill out a lengthy questionnaire about how they plan to use the money, as well as their current policies.
Last week, though, HUD announced that it would begin asking applicants to describe the steps they are taking to reduce the criminalization of homelessness. Ordinances that criminalize homelessness, also known as “anti-vagrancy” or “quality of life” laws, include making it illegal to sit down on a sidewalk, ask passersby for spare change, or sleep in a public place. Applicants for the federal money will have to show they are engaging with local policymakers or law enforcement about criminalization policies, as well as implementing new community plans to ensure homelessness is not criminalized. Failing to combat such ordinances will hurt a Continuum of Care’s chances of winning new funds.
The change comes after the administration filed a brief in federal court arguing that criminalization violates the Eighth Amendment’s protections against cruel and unusual punishment.
Maria Foscarinis, Executive Director of the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty, hailed the latest move. “We welcome the federal government’s direction of tax limited dollars to the places that will most effectively use that money to address homelessness,” Foscarinis said in a statement. She also noted that HUD is giving sufficient weight to criminalization policies that the question “in many cases could be the difference between receiving funding and not.”
The Obama administration has made a pattern of connecting federal funding to desired outcomes in localities. Its signature education achievement, Race to the Top, encouraged schools across the country to raise their standards by making it a prerequisite to receive more federal funding. Obamacare ties some hospital funding to how effectively they avoid preventable infections and patient re-admissions. Homeless advocates hope that connecting HUD funding to the fight against homeless criminalization will have a similar impact.
Yeah that must be why we support the Christian organizations that care for them.PTSD vets, children, mentally ill - RWs hate them and want them harmed even more.
Didn't Jesus state "the poor will always be with us"?
Do you Christians think that Jesus would approve of making homeless people into criminals simply because they're poor?
Seems that way, hm, it's funny that Jesus was ok with taxes, believed everyone should be fed regardless of if they work or not, believed in helping and healing everyone, believed that the rich should give everything away to the poor..I am SO proud to NOT be a RW.
Anybody wanna bet that the RWs posted above all call themselves "christian"?
Let's look at jesus:
Caution:
Liberals so doing risk the right to continue to use clown avatars or, at the very least, being turned to stone by the finger of their (former) New Messiah!
Seems that way, hm, it's funny that Jesus was ok with taxes, believed everyone should be fed regardless of if they work or not, believed in helping and healing everyone, believed that the rich should give everything away to the poor..I am SO proud to NOT be a RW.
Anybody wanna bet that the RWs posted above all call themselves "christian"?
The Bible does contain this admonition:
“For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.” (2 Thessalonians 7-12, KJV).
The following verse demonstrates that one has not only a responsibility to provide for himself but also for those in his family:
“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel” (1 Timothy 5:8, KJV).
Of course, those verses are subject to various interpretations; however, I am certain of one thing: Christ never said anything suggesting that those who could work but would not should be taken care of by others who were more industrious and responsible.
I think you are confusing GOVERNMENT with CHURCH.Fla. city to buy one-way bus tickets for homeless to leave - U.S. News
mayor democrat Jack Seiler, Ft Lauderdale
Palm Beach Libertarians plan to defy ordinance in order to feed the homeless
mayor democrat Jeri Muoio (incidentally just recently posted 2000 police emails to city website, endangering officers and informants)
Hawaii Wants To Get Rid Of Homeless People | Opinion - Conservative
governor Democrat Neil Abercrombie
need I go on?
Seems that way, hm, it's funny that Jesus was ok with taxes, believed everyone should be fed regardless of if they work or not, believed in helping and healing everyone, believed that the rich should give everything away to the poor..I am SO proud to NOT be a RW.
Anybody wanna bet that the RWs posted above all call themselves "christian"?
Let's look at jesus:Didn't Jesus state "the poor will always be with us"?
Do you Christians think that Jesus would approve of making homeless people into criminals simply because they're poor?
"“Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”"
“Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.”
“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”
“And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.”
“Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.”
“Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.”
“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.”
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.”
"I say unto you, Love your
enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute you;"
"Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."
"You cannot serve both God and Money."
"If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. "
"But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed,
because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just."
“Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?”
“But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?”
“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”
But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.”
“Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”
Seems that way, hm, it's funny that Jesus was ok with taxes, believed everyone should be fed regardless of if they work or not, believed in helping and healing everyone, believed that the rich should give everything away to the poor..I am SO proud to NOT be a RW.
Anybody wanna bet that the RWs posted above all call themselves "christian"?
The Bible does contain this admonition:
“For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.” (2 Thessalonians 7-12, KJV).
The following verse demonstrates that one has not only a responsibility to provide for himself but also for those in his family:
“But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel” (1 Timothy 5:8, KJV).
Of course, those verses are subject to various interpretations; however, I am certain of one thing: Christ never said anything suggesting that those who could work but would not should be taken care of by others who were more industrious and responsible.I think you are confusing GOVERNMENT with CHURCH.Fla. city to buy one-way bus tickets for homeless to leave - U.S. News
mayor democrat Jack Seiler, Ft Lauderdale
Palm Beach Libertarians plan to defy ordinance in order to feed the homeless
mayor democrat Jeri Muoio (incidentally just recently posted 2000 police emails to city website, endangering officers and informants)
Hawaii Wants To Get Rid Of Homeless People | Opinion - Conservative
governor Democrat Neil Abercrombie
need I go on?
It could happen to anybody, don't be embarrassed.
Actually, no it couldn't, and go ahead and be embarrassed.
Bullshit......................Most of the Christians on this board have repeatedly said that it was the fault of the poor for being poor.
Let's look at jesus:Didn't Jesus state "the poor will always be with us"?
Do you Christians think that Jesus would approve of making homeless people into criminals simply because they're poor?
"“Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”"
“Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.”
“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”
“And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.”
“Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.”
“Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.”
“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.”
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.”
"I say unto you, Love your
enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute you;"
"Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions."
"You cannot serve both God and Money."
"If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. "
"But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed,
because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just."
“Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?”
“But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him?”
“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”
But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.”
“Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”
Instead of posting things you have absolutely no understanding of, might I suggest you Google the passages you use to find out what they really mean before posting?
