"Cruz Can't Run" IS NOT a Conspiracy Theory: These Documents Actually Exist

[mdk]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

What do you think about the mods dumping all the threads about it into the "conspiracy theory" forum? Bullshit, right?

Because that is where horseshit conspiracy theories belong.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

 

[Silhouette]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

What do you think about the mods dumping all the threads about it into the "conspiracy theory" forum? Bullshit, right?

Because that is where horseshit conspiracy theories belong.

mdk...far left advocate...here stumping for Cruz's right to run.

*Notice it*.... And remember, the case hasn't been heard yet by any court who has jurisdiction over the question of law that immediately affects all 50 states. If Cruz is nominated THERE WILL BE A SCOTUS HEARING ON IT BEFORE OCTOBER THIS YEAR..

 

[kaz]

No, there's no question, there's no restriction in immigration law on dual citizenship. So how does proving he was a Canadian citizen prove he wasn't an American citizen?

The requirement for natural born isn't broad and ambiguous. It's narrow, for a reason: national security. And the case has not yet been heard by any court with legitimate jurisdiction over it. A case that immediately affects all 50 states can only be heard by SCOTUS. Any judge in a singular state that heard it and passed a judgment...that judgment is worth exactly dick.

So if Madison had a useless brat born in France, who's therefore a "national security" risk, should he leave it there for adoption or smother it in it's crib just to be sure?

Cruz's mother was American, how's he a "national security" risk? That's ridiculous

 

[kaz]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

 

[Laughing-gas]

Has Orly Taitz had her say yet?

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

 

[kaz]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

RINO? I'm not a Republican in name, do you know what RINO means?

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

RINO? I'm not a Republican in name, do you know what RINO means?

Answer the question RINO.

 

[Avatar4321]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

And what reason is there for suspicion?

 

[Avatar4321]

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

RINO? I'm not a Republican in name, do you know what RINO means?

Answer the question RINO.

So that's a no.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I think at the least there should be an investigation.

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

And what reason is there for suspicion?

Wow someone's been asleep at the wheel

 

[TheOldSchool]

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

RINO? I'm not a Republican in name, do you know what RINO means?

Answer the question RINO.

So that's a no.

RINO's sticking together. Shocker.

 

[kaz]

Right, it's not like investigating Democrats ...

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

RINO? I'm not a Republican in name, do you know what RINO means?

Answer the question RINO.

I don't get it. Do you know what RINO means? The sweeping statement isn't the point, it's that you never thing there is a reason for suspicion when it's a Democrat. We can trust them, they're Democrats! Benghazi! Fast and Furious! Mail gate! Let it go, they're Democrats, we're good!

 

[Silhouette]

So if Madison had a useless brat born in France, who's therefore a "national security" risk, should he leave it there for adoption or smother it in it's crib just to be sure?

Cruz's mother was American, how's he a "national security" risk? That's ridiculous

Where is child is born and spends formative years without US recognition or loyalty defines who that child is at his core. Ted Cruz spent the first four years of his life, with a Canadian birth certificate in Alberta Canada and has had no formal documentation of any US citizenship. The closest he came was to renounce his Canadian birthright citizenship in 2014. The paper trail of Cruz's "Americanism" is very wonky. And "wonky" isn't what the FFs had in mind with national security and minimizing foreign allegiances..

As you know, the law changed after the country was founded because obviously in the early days, NONE of the eligible men for POTUS could have been natural born. Then gentry class anyway...the pilgrims and peasants had been here for awhile longer. Then they got together and narrowly defined "natural born" just for POTUS. And they had their reasons: treason, from foreign influence, however slight.

Again, for those just tuning in, the question of whether or not Cruz can run for POTUS over all 50 states has yet to be heard by a court that has proper jurisdiction over the question. That will be... *checks watch* around September this year. October at the latest.

 

[SwimExpert]

I get it. The Liberal staff here don't want the GOP catching on that Cruz is not eligible to run. They don't want the RNC to ponder how the liberal-dominated SCOTUS majority will hear this case if Cruz is nominated.

There are legal scholars chomping at the bit for the first indication that Cruz is the GOP nominee. Upon that instant, they will press SCOTUS to decide on behalf of all 50 states (the only court where the jurisdiction is legitimate) whether or not Ted Cruz can run for POTUS having an Alberta Canada birth certificate and only having renounced in May, 2014.

Arguments are that since his mommy was born in the US, he was automatically a US citizen. Well his daddy was born in Cuba, so does that mean he also automatically is a Cuban citizen too? If a US man, a soldier on shore leave sires a child with a Russian woman and she raises it for its formative years in Russia, is that child also eligible for POTUS?

The intent of the founding fathers was for "natural born" to minimize the influences of any foreign government on the one Office in the country with the most singular unilateral power granted any man. Therefore, it and just it, has been isolated for the "natural born" requirement. The intent is everything. People who argue that the Constitution and its interpretations are progressive can't touch this argument. Since national security is at stake, there is no modification allowed of the very narrow terms and intent behind "natural born".

Having an Alberta, Canada birth certificate and only renouncing one's citizenship over 40 years later means you do not qualify for the narrow parameters of "natural born".

The conspiracy theory is your continued allegations that anyone has denied Cruz's place of birth.

 

[kaz]

So if Madison had a useless brat born in France, who's therefore a "national security" risk, should he leave it there for adoption or smother it in it's crib just to be sure?

Cruz's mother was American, how's he a "national security" risk? That's ridiculous

Where is child is born and spends formative years without US recognition or loyalty defines who that child is at his core. Ted Cruz spent the first four years of his life, with a Canadian birth certificate in Alberta Canada and has had no formal documentation of any US citizenship. The closest he came was to renounce his Canadian birthright citizenship in 2014. The paper trail of Cruz's "Americanism" is very wonky. And "wonky" isn't what the FFs had in mind with national security and minimizing foreign allegiances..

As you know, the law changed after the country was founded because obviously in the early days, NONE of the eligible men for POTUS could have been natural born. Then gentry class anyway...the pilgrims and peasants had been here for awhile longer. Then they got together and narrowly defined "natural born" just for POTUS. And they had their reasons: treason, from foreign influence, however slight.

Again, for those just tuning in, the question of whether or not Cruz can run for POTUS over all 50 states has yet to be heard by a court that has proper jurisdiction over the question. That will be... *checks watch* around September this year. October at the latest.

So Madison wouldn't have trusted the kid. You'd go with smothering the kid in the crib?

His MOTHER is American. That's ridiculous that his loyalty is to Canada. Why is he a Senator in Texas? There is no evidence he even has divided loyalties much less Canadian loyalty

 

[Silhouette]

So Madison wouldn't have trusted the kid. You'd go with smothering the kid in the crib?

His MOTHER is American. That's ridiculous that his loyalty is to Canada. Why is he a Senator in Texas? There is no evidence he even has divided loyalties much less Canadian loyalty

You and I didn't make the narrow natural born requirement for POTUS. Suffice to say the FFs are and were much wiser than we are. They weren't politically correct. Their very heads staying attached to the top of their shoulders depended on the ability to think rationally and explore every possibility for sedition or treason. I suggest we listen to them. SCOTUS will...

Remember, with precedent, this isn't a question of just cute-cuddly Canada. It's a question of any other country this could occur in (read the 14ths ban on discriminating based on country of origin). It could be next Korea, Russia, China, Iran wanting to put their "legitimate son" in the POTUS chair...

 

[TheOldSchool]

You're saying Democrats don't get investigated? That's weird you RINO.

No, I'm saying you don't support it when they do. I mean duh

Of course I do. If there's reason for suspicion there should be an investigation. Don't you agree RINO?

RINO? I'm not a Republican in name, do you know what RINO means?

Answer the question RINO.

I don't get it. Do you know what RINO means? The sweeping statement isn't the point, it's that you never thing there is a reason for suspicion when it's a Democrat. We can trust them, they're Democrats! Benghazi! Fast and Furious! Mail gate! Let it go, they're Democrats, we're good!

A RINO is an establishment sheep who serves the same masters as the Democrats. Like lyin' Ted.

 

[Avatar4321]

He was born a citizen. Thus he is a naturally born citizen because his birth is what makes him a citizen. It's not really that difficult.

The fact that he was a dual citizen doesn't make him any less naturally born.