Cuomo Claims Ordering Positive COVID Patients To Nursing Homes Did Not Spread The Virus

The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
 
Cuomo has begun threatening his Democratic allies to keep them from turning on him in the nursing-home scandal engulfing his administration

“Gov. Cuomo called me directly on Thursday to threaten my career if I did not cover up for Melissa [DeRosa] and what she said. He tried to pressure me to issue a statement, and it was a very traumatizing experience,” Kim said. Cuomo proceeded to tell the assemblyman that “we’re in this business together and we don’t cross certain lines and he said I hadn’t seen his wrath and that he can destroy me,”
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


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Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
 
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The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
Baloney
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
So, you are trying to hide your lies by splitting hairs between "can" and "should"

Neither of those is anywhere near the mandate Benito signed, Dummy.

Please stop pushing this lie................you really look like an idiot who is defending a mass murderer.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
Blah blah blah...excuses excuses excuses.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
Should != shall. In government orders those are very different terms.

Should, can and may are all synonyms in government orders. Will, must and shall are all synonyms in government orders.

All of this avoids the actual data though and is rather irrelevant.
 
Massachusetts, had a chain of 16 or so, related nursing homes that did it right, in my opinion, instead of covid wards within a nursing home, they made 1 out of their 16 owned nursing homes, as a nursing home ONLY for COVID positive patients returning from hospitalization, and other covid pos residents not needing hospitalization from their other 16 nursing homes.

Most nursing homes are on contract with the State, and are corporations or owners with multiple nursing homes.... converting one nursing home for every 10 or so, in to a covid nursing home again, in my opinion... is the way to go.
 
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Massachusetts, had a chain of 16 or so, related nursing homes that did it right, in my opinion, instead of covid wards within a nursing home, they made 1 out of their 16 owned nursing homes, as a nursing home ONLY for COVID positive patients returning from hospitalization, and other covid pos residents not needing hospitalization from their other 16 nursing homes.

Most nursing homes are on contract with the State, and are corporations or owners with multiple nursing homes.... converting one nursing home for every 10 or so, in to a covid nursing home again, in my opinion.
See what happens when Benito Cuomo isn't calling the shots.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
So, you are trying to hide your lies by splitting hairs between "can" and "should"

Neither of those is anywhere near the mandate Benito signed, Dummy.

Please stop pushing this lie................you really look like an idiot who is defending a mass murderer.
I'm not splitting hairs.... it does not say they CAN as you conveniently said.... it does not give any choice, except ONE. The one exception is that if the home can not set up an infectious disease ward, following all the CDC guidelines for an infectious disease ward... it should not take in the returning Covid resident until they are covid free of symptoms...and these residents should be placed in a nursing home who can and is able, to follow the cdc / NY guidelines....

The CMS, which is the federal inspection agency for nursing homes, failed in their inspections of covid infected nursing homes imo....because they should have caught the nursing homes not following the guidelines earlier..... So did any inspection teams NEW YORK state might have had....again, imo.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
So, you are trying to hide your lies by splitting hairs between "can" and "should"

Neither of those is anywhere near the mandate Benito signed, Dummy.

Please stop pushing this lie................you really look like an idiot who is defending a mass murderer.
I'm not splitting hairs.... it does not say they CAN as you conveniently said.... it does not give any choice, except ONE. The one exception is that if the home can not set up an infectious disease ward, following all the CDC guidelines for an infectious disease ward... it should not take in the returning Covid resident until they are covid free of symptoms...and these residents should be placed in a nursing home who can and is able, to follow the cdc / NY guidelines....

The CMS, which is the federal inspection agency for nursing homes, failed in their inspections of covid infected nursing homes imo....because they should have caught the nursing homes not following the guidelines earlier..... So did any inspection teams NEW YORK state might have had....again, imo.
You are defending Killer Cuomo, second in total deaths in the US to Kalifornia but with less than half the total cases Kalifornia has. 46,457 deaths in only 1,597,308 cases only New Jersey has a worse per capita death rate.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
Should != shall. In government orders those are very different terms.

Should, can and may are all synonyms in government orders. Will, must and shall are all synonyms in government orders.

All of this avoids the actual data though and is rather irrelevant.
I dunno about that...

Should is the past tense of shall....


.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
So, you are trying to hide your lies by splitting hairs between "can" and "should"

Neither of those is anywhere near the mandate Benito signed, Dummy.

Please stop pushing this lie................you really look like an idiot who is defending a mass murderer.
I'm not splitting hairs.... it does not say they CAN as you conveniently said.... it does not give any choice, except ONE. The one exception is that if the home can not set up an infectious disease ward, following all the CDC guidelines for an infectious disease ward... it should not take in the returning Covid resident until they are covid free of symptoms...and these residents should be placed in a nursing home who can and is able, to follow the cdc / NY guidelines....

The CMS, which is the federal inspection agency for nursing homes, failed in their inspections of covid infected nursing homes imo....because they should have caught the nursing homes not following the guidelines earlier..... So did any inspection teams NEW YORK state might have had....again, imo.
You are defending Killer Cuomo, second in total deaths in the US to Kalifornia but with less than half the total cases Kalifornia has. 46,457 deaths in only 1,597,308 cases only New Jersey has a worse per capita death rate.
Please stop with your being an adolescent routine...

And yes, of course California and New York have had the most cases or deaths....They are major port of entries for foreigners in to the United States and these states have had the virus spreading, long before other states and even before us every day folk even knew the virus was here already.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
So, you are trying to hide your lies by splitting hairs between "can" and "should"

Neither of those is anywhere near the mandate Benito signed, Dummy.

Please stop pushing this lie................you really look like an idiot who is defending a mass murderer.
I'm not splitting hairs.... it does not say they CAN as you conveniently said.... it does not give any choice, except ONE. The one exception is that if the home can not set up an infectious disease ward, following all the CDC guidelines for an infectious disease ward... it should not take in the returning Covid resident until they are covid free of symptoms...and these residents should be placed in a nursing home who can and is able, to follow the cdc / NY guidelines....

The CMS, which is the federal inspection agency for nursing homes, failed in their inspections of covid infected nursing homes imo....because they should have caught the nursing homes not following the guidelines earlier..... So did any inspection teams NEW YORK state might have had....again, imo.
You are defending Killer Cuomo, second in total deaths in the US to Kalifornia but with less than half the total cases Kalifornia has. 46,457 deaths in only 1,597,308 cases only New Jersey has a worse per capita death rate.
Please stop with your being an adolescent routine...

And yes, of course California and New York have had the most cases or deaths....They are major port of entries for foreigners in to the United States and these states have had the virus spreading, long before other states and even before us every day folk even knew the virus was here already.
<snicker>
NY Democrat lawmakers move to strip Gov Andrew Cuomo of emergency powers following report of federal probe

Democratic leaders of the New York State Senate are reportedly working to strip New York Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo of his emergency powers in the aftermath of revelations about his handling of pandemic.

Democratic and Republican lawmakers have been demanding answers since a top Cuomo aide admitted that the Governor's administration hid data on senior deaths at nursing homes and long-term care facilities over fears of a Department of Justice investigation. During a press conference after the revelation, Cuomo denied the allegations.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


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Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
So, you are trying to hide your lies by splitting hairs between "can" and "should"

Neither of those is anywhere near the mandate Benito signed, Dummy.

Please stop pushing this lie................you really look like an idiot who is defending a mass murderer.
I'm not splitting hairs.... it does not say they CAN as you conveniently said.... it does not give any choice, except ONE. The one exception is that if the home can not set up an infectious disease ward, following all the CDC guidelines for an infectious disease ward... it should not take in the returning Covid resident until they are covid free of symptoms...and these residents should be placed in a nursing home who can and is able, to follow the cdc / NY guidelines....

The CMS, which is the federal inspection agency for nursing homes, failed in their inspections of covid infected nursing homes imo....because they should have caught the nursing homes not following the guidelines earlier..... So did any inspection teams NEW YORK state might have had....again, imo.
You are defending Killer Cuomo, second in total deaths in the US to Kalifornia but with less than half the total cases Kalifornia has. 46,457 deaths in only 1,597,308 cases only New Jersey has a worse per capita death rate.
Please stop with your being an adolescent routine...

And yes, of course California and New York have had the most cases or deaths....They are major port of entries for foreigners in to the United States and these states have had the virus spreading, long before other states and even before us every day folk even knew the virus was here already.
You are the childish one making excuses for someone who clearly botched it! California has done a much better job, as has Florida, with managing testing, cases, and mortality rate control. Cuomo is an arrogant little Napoleon who has been exposed finally and deserves whats coming to him.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
Jay Inslee did the same thing in WA with the same results that Cuomo had. What is left out of the "they were held in a different ward" argument is that the same people that tended the covid ward also went out and interacted with the patients and staff in the rest of the facility. SMH.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??
For starters, stop using the fake data supplied by mass murderer Cuomo.
What's fake? I just looked up the data....

And NY State has had 33% of the covid deaths, from nursing home residents...

And on average States are running at 40% of their total covid deaths from nursing home residents.

So why has it been a higher percentage of nursing home deaths, of total covid deaths, in other states??? It makes absolutely no sense? Unless the other States were also sending recovering covid hospital patients as well??? Or, returning hospitalized covid patients to nursing homes did not further spread the disease because the patients were on the waning side of the virus and less infectious??? That still does not explain why a higher percentage of nursing h residents died in states other than NY State?
Maybe because Killer Cuomo killed a total of 46,235 total citizens, second only to the great state of Kalifornia.....so even though his nursing home total was high, he killed so many others it made his percentage look better.
Oh please spare us from your ignorance on this.... NY State was the first hardest hit state with the new and unknown covid 19 virus. It was hit the hardest because NYC metropolitan Airports bring in more international travelers on business and vacation than any other city in the USA and Europe, where the virus was booming. They got hit hard with the Euro version, spreading like crazy, while unknown to them. Compacted populations in cities, mass transit, packed crowds, makes rapid spread inevitable and coupled with a "silent" spread with asymptomatic people made it invisible....until it was too late.

Other states had advance notice, and Cuomo who had gone thru it ahead of them, for the states to follow and pick and choose from...or learn from....
Keeping crowded subways open and putting sick 23 year olds in elderly care homes helped a tad.

Withholding reports of deaths to the Feds is a Federal crime.
Who got really sick at 23 yrs old, that didn't have a home to go to for recovering at?

That's t plain bull shit!

I'm not defending him on whatever he did with the numbers, don't really know much about it.

This thread however, is not about the numbers.... start another thread.

Bottom line on putting covid patients released from the hospital back in to separate covid wards in to nursing homes was federal guidance that Cuomo's health administrator followed, as Cuomo claimed.

I posted it above, from the federal agency giving the states guidance.
Coumo ordered that all nursing homes take in covid patients----regardless of them being contagious or not. No separate covid wards needed no extra exits either. NURSING HOMES did the best they could to separate the covid infected-----but that did not the spreading in the nursing homes as Cuomo and the other 4 dem governors intended. Cuomo stood to make millions off killing people trying to justify a bail out by the federal government. He's a psychopath as are you CARE---as you lie with no remorse.

May 10, Cuomo took down the march 25 order.

DATE: March 25, 2020 TO: Nursing Home Administrators, Directors of Nursing, and Hospital Discharge Planners FROM: New York State Department of Health COVID-19 has been detected in multiple communities throughout New York State. There is an urgent need to expand hospital capacity in New York State to be able to meet the demand for patients with COVID-19 requiring acute care. As a result, this directive is being issued to clarify expectations for nursing homes (NHs) receiving residents returning from hospitalization and for NHs accepting new admissions. Hospital discharge planning staff and NHs should carefully review this guidance with all staff directly involved in resident admission, transfer, and discharges. During this global health emergency, all NHs must comply with the expedited receipt of residents returning from hospitals to NHs. Residents are deemed appropriate for return to a NH upon a determination by the hospital physician or designee that the resident is medically stable for return. Hospital discharge planners must confirm to the NH, by telephone, that the resident is medically stable for discharge. Comprehensive discharge instructions must be provided by the hospital prior to the transport of a resident to the NH. No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19. NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission. Information for healthcare providers on COVID-19 is readily available on the New York State Department of Health public website at https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/information-healthcareproviders. As always, standard precautions must be maintained, and environmental cleaning made a priority, during this public health emergency. Critical personal protective equipment (PPE) needs should be immediately communicated to your local Office of Emergency Management, with the appropriate information provided at the time of request. Requests MUST include: o Type and quantity of PPE by size; o Point of contact at the requesting facility or system; o Delivery location; o Date request is needed to be filled by; AND o Record of pending orders. Thank you for your ongoing support and cooperation in responding to COVID-19. General questions or comments about this advisory can be sent to [email protected].
I've read the NY directive you just posted and it says precisely what I've said, New York FOLLOWED the CDC and CMS guidelines for returning covid residents who were hospitalized...

I HAVE POSTED SEVERAL TIMES

The CDC/CMS guidelines...

Obviously YOU, have failed to READ them! Why is that? Do you enjoy being a pawn for a bunch of liars?


------

Note: Nursing homes should admit any individuals that they would normally admit to their facility, including individuals from hospitals where a case of COVID-19 was/is present. Also, if possible, dedicate a unit/wing exclusively for any residents coming or returning from the hospital. This can serve as a step-down unit where they remain for 14 days with no symptoms (instead of integrating as usual on short-term rehab floor, or returning to longstay original room). Other considerations for facilities: • Review CDC guidance for Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Patients with Confirmed Coronavirus Disease 2019:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infectioncontrol/controlrecommendations.html
You keep posting the same lie. Are you related to Cuomo?

CDC guidelines say you "can" return patients under certain conditions.............Cuomo mandated that nursing homes "MUST" accept China Flu infected people.

Stop trying to push the same debunked lie over and over, liar.
Sorry Charlie!

It says SHOULD as in shall,

NOT

CAN or could.

And yes, under certain CDC guidance for their admission.. a separate covid ward, with separate nursing aid staff etc... WHICH IS IN THE NEW YORK STATE detailed guidelines given to the nursing homes....

So, it was not like NY State created this return of covid residents to nursing homes, all by their lonesome.... They created their NY guidelines from the CDC guideline recommendations.

ALL the other states in the northeast at that time who were saturated with covid cases in their hospitals, set identical guidelines for returning covid residents to nursing homes.

There were problems in NY nursing homes with this....I am not denying that.... some nursing homes were not following the CDC, CMS, or the New York guidelines.....
So, you are trying to hide your lies by splitting hairs between "can" and "should"

Neither of those is anywhere near the mandate Benito signed, Dummy.

Please stop pushing this lie................you really look like an idiot who is defending a mass murderer.
I'm not splitting hairs.... it does not say they CAN as you conveniently said.... it does not give any choice, except ONE. The one exception is that if the home can not set up an infectious disease ward, following all the CDC guidelines for an infectious disease ward... it should not take in the returning Covid resident until they are covid free of symptoms...and these residents should be placed in a nursing home who can and is able, to follow the cdc / NY guidelines....

The CMS, which is the federal inspection agency for nursing homes, failed in their inspections of covid infected nursing homes imo....because they should have caught the nursing homes not following the guidelines earlier..... So did any inspection teams NEW YORK state might have had....again, imo.
You are defending Killer Cuomo, second in total deaths in the US to Kalifornia but with less than half the total cases Kalifornia has. 46,457 deaths in only 1,597,308 cases only New Jersey has a worse per capita death rate.
Please stop with your being an adolescent routine...

And yes, of course California and New York have had the most cases or deaths....They are major port of entries for foreigners in to the United States and these states have had the virus spreading, long before other states and even before us every day folk even knew the virus was here already.
<snicker>
NY Democrat lawmakers move to strip Gov Andrew Cuomo of emergency powers following report of federal probe

Democratic leaders of the New York State Senate are reportedly working to strip New York Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo of his emergency powers in the aftermath of revelations about his handling of pandemic.

Democratic and Republican lawmakers have been demanding answers since a top Cuomo aide admitted that the Governor's administration hid data on senior deaths at nursing homes and long-term care facilities over fears of a Department of Justice investigation. During a press conference after the revelation, Cuomo denied the allegations.
I wish they would strip Jay Inslee of his e-powers as well. He has been extremely partisan and punitive in the way he has administered them. Inslee should be impeached as well.
 
The returning from the hospital covid residence were put in separate covid isolation wards from the nursing home wards of residents without covid, was the directive to nursing homes in New York.

Yet even with the added nursing home resident deaths added from those who died in the hospital,

NY nursing home covid deaths is a much lower percentage of covid deaths in their state, 33%, than the average nursing home deaths in all the other states, which is running around 40%?

How could what NY did, have fewer as a percentage... lower death rate than other states who allegedly didn't do, what NY State did in nursing homes??

NY is not lower, but about right in the middle, with 50.5 deaths per 1000 in nursing homes.

So while that does not sound too bad, you have to remember that NYC was given access to the USN hospital ship, which they never bothered to use.
 

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