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Everyone should watch this clip.
Why, so we can see just how misleading it is?
From Post #10:
Supporters of Australia's laws cite the fact that Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not experienced any mass shootings since.
That's a lie. They had a mass shooting in 2002 when a university student shot and killed teachers and students. They also had another mass killing in 2000 when 15 were killed...but since the bad guy didn't use a gun, I guess those people are somehow less dead....
I notice Stewart and his flunky also overlooked the fact that violent crime increased following the firearms confiscation. Oh those pesky facts that don't support your agenda...
They also didn't mention that since the gun ban, Australia has a higher rate of rape than the US. Yep, the rate of rape in Australia is 150 times that of the US. I guess their idea of gun control is giving a 120lb woman the 'right' to fistfight a 250lb rapist. Talk about a war on women!
Then there's this little fact: Australia ranks 1st, that's right NUMBER 1, in total crime victims per capita....43% higher than in America. All those unarmed civilians have resulted in the highest crime rate rates in the world...and you're celebrating? Sick, just sick.
Ok ok ok...we get it, they had 1 since 1996. Geez
Then there's all those rapes, with women unable to effectively defend themselves. Great plan. 
'a successful gun control scheme' - is what Australia has. I guess you're upset that that's what they call it an since Stewart had to call it what Australians call it, that means that Stewart wants it to be the same way here. LOL! For example: If Stewart calls Soccer "football" while talking about England that means Stewart wants Football in the US to actually be Soccer!!!!
Waaahh...Hair on Fire!!!
Point went right over your head again. Woosh!
And you cant explain it. Woosh!
'a successful gun control scheme' - is what Australia has.
If by 'successful', you mean that violent crime rates skyrocketed after the ban, resulting in Australia having today the highest rate of crime victims in the world, the 5th highest rate of rape in the world, and an unarmed populace unable to defend themselves against tyranny, then yes, it was successful.
Yea, I'll pass on that definition of 'success'.
Point went right over your head again. Woosh!
And you cant explain it. Woosh!
I am not responsible for your lack of comprehension.
Daily Show On Gun Control Laws - Business Insider
"Last week, we learned that while our Senate was unable to pass even the most basic gun control measures, Australia has had a successful gun control scheme for almost two decades," "Daily Show" host Jon Stewart said, introducing the segment.
Oliver talked to Australian politicians who said they were outed from office because they supported new gun measures after a 1996 mass shooting that killed 35 people. Supporters of Australia's laws cite the fact that Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not experienced any mass shootings since.
Oliver shamed the four Democrats that voted against background checks last week Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Max Baucus of Montana, Mark Begich of Alaska, and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota.
He mocked them for having the "courage" to "reduce the rate of political suicide" in Congress.
Read more: Daily Show On Gun Control Laws - Business Insider
Basically the reason we cant get real gun control here is because pols don't want to lose their jobs.
[ame=http://youtu.be/TYbY45rHj8w]The Daily Show: John Oliver Investigates Gun Control in Australia - Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]
'a successful gun control scheme' - is what Australia has.
If by 'successful', you mean that violent crime rates skyrocketed after the ban, resulting in Australia having today the highest rate of crime victims in the world, the 5th highest rate of rape in the world, and an unarmed populace unable to defend themselves against tyranny, then yes, it was successful.
Yea, I'll pass on that definition of 'success'.
link?
Everyone should watch this clip.Daily Show On Gun Control Laws - Business Insider
"Last week, we learned that while our Senate was unable to pass even the most basic gun control measures, Australia has had a successful gun control scheme for almost two decades," "Daily Show" host Jon Stewart said, introducing the segment.
Oliver talked to Australian politicians who said they were outed from office because they supported new gun measures after a 1996 mass shooting that killed 35 people. Supporters of Australia's laws cite the fact that Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not experienced any mass shootings since.
Oliver shamed the four Democrats that voted against background checks last week Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Max Baucus of Montana, Mark Begich of Alaska, and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota.
He mocked them for having the "courage" to "reduce the rate of political suicide" in Congress.
Read more: Daily Show On Gun Control Laws - Business Insider
Basically the reason we cant get real gun control here is because pols don't want to lose their jobs.
[ame=http://youtu.be/TYbY45rHj8w]The Daily Show: John Oliver Investigates Gun Control in Australia - Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]
If by 'successful', you mean that violent crime rates skyrocketed after the ban, resulting in Australia having today the highest rate of crime victims in the world, the 5th highest rate of rape in the world, and an unarmed populace unable to defend themselves against tyranny, then yes, it was successful.
Yea, I'll pass on that definition of 'success'.
link?
These stats are easily accessible from sites ranging from NationMaster to the BATF to frickin' Wiki for heaven's sake. A good start is "Report #46: Homicide in Australia", 2001-2002, Australian Institute of Criminology, April 2003. Do your own research. If you can refute anything I've posted, do it, otherwise, you're only looking desperate when the facts don't support your agenda. And that's just pathetic.
link?
These stats are easily accessible from sites ranging from NationMaster to the BATF to frickin' Wiki for heaven's sake. A good start is "Report #46: Homicide in Australia", 2001-2002, Australian Institute of Criminology, April 2003. Do your own research. If you can refute anything I've posted, do it, otherwise, you're only looking desperate when the facts don't support your agenda. And that's just pathetic.
So no link then? Got it...I guess it's easier to type a paragraph than to cut and paste the link...or something
Daily Show On Gun Control Laws - Business Insider
"Last week, we learned that while our Senate was unable to pass even the most basic gun control measures, Australia has had a successful gun control scheme for almost two decades," "Daily Show" host Jon Stewart said, introducing the segment.
Oliver talked to Australian politicians who said they were outed from office because they supported new gun measures after a 1996 mass shooting that killed 35 people. Supporters of Australia's laws cite the fact that Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not experienced any mass shootings since.
Oliver shamed the four Democrats that voted against background checks last week Sens. Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Max Baucus of Montana, Mark Begich of Alaska, and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota.
He mocked them for having the "courage" to "reduce the rate of political suicide" in Congress.
Read more: Daily Show On Gun Control Laws - Business Insider
Basically the reason we cant get real gun control here is because pols don't want to lose their jobs.
[ame=http://youtu.be/TYbY45rHj8w]The Daily Show: John Oliver Investigates Gun Control in Australia - Part 2 - YouTube[/ame]
You glean all this from a comedy skit, from a comedy show that airs on Comedy Central?
This certainly explains a lot.
Everyone should watch this clip.
Why, so we can see just how misleading it is?
From Post #10:
Supporters of Australia's laws cite the fact that Australia had 13 gun massacres in the 18 years before the 1996 gun reforms, but has not experienced any mass shootings since.
That's a lie. They had a mass shooting in 2002 when a university student shot and killed teachers and students. They also had another mass killing in 2000 when 15 were killed...but since the bad guy didn't use a gun, I guess those people are somehow less dead....
I notice Stewart and his flunky also overlooked the fact that violent crime increased following the firearms confiscation. Oh those pesky facts that don't support your agenda...
They also didn't mention that since the gun ban, Australia has a higher rate of rape than the US. Yep, the rate of rape in Australia is 150 times that of the US. I guess their idea of gun control is giving a 120lb woman the 'right' to fistfight a 250lb rapist. Talk about a war on women!
Then there's this little fact: Australia ranks 1st, that's right NUMBER 1, in total crime victims per capita....43% higher than in America. All those unarmed civilians have resulted in the highest crime rate rates in the world...and you're celebrating? Sick, just sick.
Yes Jon Stewart is the host....and like I said he didn't even do the interview.
I quoted Stewart, had to point it out to you once, you tried to sidestep that so here I am ... pointing it out again. I quoted Stewart and commented on what Stewart said, not the interviewer.
Tell me about the great unicorn migration next, dummy. (I still can't figure out if you herped or derped).
Annnnyway ... 'a successful gun control scheme'. Yeah, sounds about right for what the progressive left would like to see here.
'a successful gun control scheme' - is what Australia has. I guess you're upset that that's what they call it an since Stewart had to call it what Australians call it, that means that Stewart wants it to be the same way here. LOL! For example: If Stewart calls Soccer "football" while talking about England that means Stewart wants Football in the US to actually be Soccer!!!!
Waaahh...Hair on Fire!!!
These stats are easily accessible from sites ranging from NationMaster to the BATF to frickin' Wiki for heaven's sake. A good start is "Report #46: Homicide in Australia", 2001-2002, Australian Institute of Criminology, April 2003. Do your own research. If you can refute anything I've posted, do it, otherwise, you're only looking desperate when the facts don't support your agenda. And that's just pathetic.
So no link then? Got it...I guess it's easier to type a paragraph than to cut and paste the link...or something
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NationMaster - World Statistics, Country Comparisons
Golly, that was hard...
You have nothing to refute the facts. Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda.
These stats are easily accessible from sites ranging from NationMaster to the BATF to frickin' Wiki for heaven's sake. A good start is "Report #46: Homicide in Australia", 2001-2002, Australian Institute of Criminology, April 2003. Do your own research. If you can refute anything I've posted, do it, otherwise, you're only looking desperate when the facts don't support your agenda. And that's just pathetic.
So no link then? Got it...I guess it's easier to type a paragraph than to cut and paste the link...or something
Having trouble figuring out search engines?
NationMaster - World Statistics, Country Comparisons
Golly, that was hard...
You have nothing to refute the facts. Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda.
Because the NRA is well funded and wields more political power than 300 million other ppl.
How is this hard for ppl to understand?
So no link then? Got it...I guess it's easier to type a paragraph than to cut and paste the link...or something
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NationMaster - World Statistics, Country Comparisons
Golly, that was hard...
You have nothing to refute the facts. Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda.
My agenda is facts...Just went to your link but I didn't see anything about skyrocketing violence since the gun ban
So no link then? Got it...I guess it's easier to type a paragraph than to cut and paste the link...or something
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NationMaster - World Statistics, Country Comparisons
Golly, that was hard...
You have nothing to refute the facts. Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda.
Weird how you didn't mention this note about those crime stats... Taken from your link.
"Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence"
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Golly, that was hard...
You have nothing to refute the facts. Sorry if that doesn't fit your agenda.
Weird how you didn't mention this note about those crime stats... Taken from your link.
"Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence"
Excellent point. So, next time your try to compare UK and US crime stats, keep in mind that England does not count a crime unless someone is CONVICTED. Not the case in the US were every REPORTED crime is counted toward the stats.
So thanks for helping to make my point. Much appreicated.
Weird how you didn't mention this note about those crime stats... Taken from your link.
"Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence"
Excellent point. So, next time your try to compare UK and US crime stats, keep in mind that England does not count a crime unless someone is CONVICTED. Not the case in the US were every REPORTED crime is counted toward the stats.
So thanks for helping to make my point. Much appreicated.
So you admit your whole argument about Australia gun laws not being effective was bogus.
Thanks for admitting that and that gun control has worked in Australia.
But please feel free to try and switch the topic to a new country when your argument has completely failed
They have the ability but they should be required.
Required to do what, have an opinion? What do you do about a doctor who is a dedicated anti gunner and thinks anyone who owns one is dangerous, should they have the ability to make a call to NICS and add a name to the data base and use the excuse, the law requires it, with no fear of repercussions? How far down that road are you willing to travel?
I'll admit there should be some oversight or procedures in place to minimize possible abuses. But an honest discussion about this is needed and I believe solutions can be found that'll help keep the mentally disturbed from purchasing guns.
If a doctor has the power to involuntary commit a dangerous patient then he should have the power to submit his name to NCIC (National Crime Information Center). IMO
