Deal is done, Iran wins?

And every threat in the world must be......HITLER

Diplomacy has worked many, many more times than it has failed

When dealing with an avowed enemy, sworn to destroy you, that is -- Bullshit. Total and complete and utter bullshit.

But then, you're a dimocrap. Infantile reasoning is what we've come to expect from ALL of you.

Winston Churchill ~~ "You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and you will have war."
1938, after Prime Minister Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler
 
LOL, there's a LOT more to it than your synopsis.
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Iran will convert its facility at Fordow so that it is no longer used to enrich uranium

Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium at its Fordow facility for at least 15 years.

Iran has agreed to convert its Fordow facility so that it is used for peaceful purposes only – into a nuclear, physics, technology, research center.

Iran has agreed to not conduct research and development associated with uranium enrichment at Fordow for 15 years.

Iran will not have any fissile material at Fordow for 15 years.

Here, for anyone who wants to read the proposed "deal":
Iran Deal Fact Sheet

Iran's getting what it wanted most...the lifting of UN sanctions...by promising to not seek to build a bomb. Here's what anyone with a dollop of common sense realizes they will do. Once the UN sanctions have been lifted Iran will then be free to break that promise because they know that Russia and China will veto any "snap back" of UN sanctions. Kerry and Obama just got sold a "pig in a poke".
 
I have a brain and I don't believe everything i want to be true.

No....you are delusional
Iran does not have nukes and is not currently close to them

They have enriched Uranium to 20%....... They need 90% to make a bomb
They have agreed to dismantle facilities capable of enriching uranium further and will destroy current stockpiles

Well the one thing we know to an absolute certainty, is that if the left says that Iran isn't close to a nuke, Iran is on the precipice of an assload of nukes.

Now you are just making shit up

Iran doesn't want nukes......they wanted the threat of nukes as a bargaining chip

Now they get the ......what do we get for destroying our nuclear program?

Iran doesn't want nukes?? WTF?? Dude seriously. The whole world, even Obozo, knows Iran wants nukes. Bargaining chip?? Okay let's say they have been pretending to want nukes ha ha ha, what did they get out of pretending to want nukes???

What do nukes get Iran?

Economic isolation

That shows you how bad they want want nukes that they're willing to face crippling sanctions and still pursue their program. We're talking about the world's foremost terrorist state, them getting the bomb is very dangerous.
 
LOL, there's a LOT more to it than your synopsis.
"
Iran will convert its facility at Fordow so that it is no longer used to enrich uranium

Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium at its Fordow facility for at least 15 years.

Iran has agreed to convert its Fordow facility so that it is used for peaceful purposes only – into a nuclear, physics, technology, research center.

Iran has agreed to not conduct research and development associated with uranium enrichment at Fordow for 15 years.

Iran will not have any fissile material at Fordow for 15 years.

Here, for anyone who wants to read the proposed "deal":
Iran Deal Fact Sheet

Iran's getting what it wanted most...the lifting of UN sanctions...by promising to not seek to build a bomb. Here's what anyone with a dollop of common sense realizes they will do. Once the UN sanctions have been lifted Iran will then be free to break that promise because they know that Russia and China will veto any "snap back" of UN sanctions. Kerry and Obama just got sold a "pig in a poke".

Iran having a bomb isn't that big of deal. This reminds me of the movie "The Mouse that Roared." Iran has to know that having a bomb and using it are way two different things. That is why the US needs to be the big boy with a deterrent that would stop anyone from the use of such a weapon. And where would Iran use such a weapon? Defense? Against whom? The US who has shown their weakness and not stomach for war? Iran has too much to loose to make a having a bomb and issue. They may or may not eventually get a bomb but until then they will get what they really want.
 
Just goes to show, that people who aren't afraid to fight a war don't necessarily want one any more than those too chicken-hearted to fight when necessary...

Sometimes it's better to fight a small war, sooner, rather than a big war, later...

Irresponsible......

Some objectivity........With Iraq, the country was basically weakened from the first Gulf War and the imposed no-fly zone......Iraq still managed to cost us Trillions and 4,000 lives of our own troops........

Now, Iran is THREE times the size of Iraq, has a formidable air force and even a navy; has the revolutionary guard that is both well trained and equipped, etc.

Are we then really ready to spend (on a credit card) 2-3 additional trillions, sacrifice a possible 10,000 American lives and be involved in yet another war in the region that would last a decade or more?????
 
Israel has had nukes for more than 50 years----and never used them. Obviously you are wrong-----nothing new for islamo Nazi dogs

Again, following THAT rationale you must also be a fan of Pakistan and N. Korea for not having used their nuclear arsenal, right?.....

Convince Israel to give up her own 300 plus nukes, and then Iran has absolutely NO reason to pursue its own nuclear quest.
 
LOL, there's a LOT more to it than your synopsis.
"
Iran will convert its facility at Fordow so that it is no longer used to enrich uranium

Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium at its Fordow facility for at least 15 years.

Iran has agreed to convert its Fordow facility so that it is used for peaceful purposes only – into a nuclear, physics, technology, research center.

Iran has agreed to not conduct research and development associated with uranium enrichment at Fordow for 15 years.

Iran will not have any fissile material at Fordow for 15 years.

Here, for anyone who wants to read the proposed "deal":
Iran Deal Fact Sheet

Iran's getting what it wanted most...the lifting of UN sanctions...by promising to not seek to build a bomb. Here's what anyone with a dollop of common sense realizes they will do. Once the UN sanctions have been lifted Iran will then be free to break that promise because they know that Russia and China will veto any "snap back" of UN sanctions. Kerry and Obama just got sold a "pig in a poke".

Iran having a bomb isn't that big of deal. This reminds me of the movie "The Mouse that Roared." Iran has to know that having a bomb and using it are way two different things. That is why the US needs to be the big boy with a deterrent that would stop anyone from the use of such a weapon. And where would Iran use such a weapon? Defense? Against whom? The US who has shown their weakness and not stomach for war? Iran has too much to loose to make a having a bomb and issue. They may or may not eventually get a bomb but until then they will get what they really want.
Iran believes they can use the bomb to destroy their enemies and be protected by the 12th imam from retaliation. So your argument is garbage.
 
Israel has had nukes for more than 50 years----and never used them. Obviously you are wrong-----nothing new for islamo Nazi dogs

Again, following THAT rationale you must also be a fan of Pakistan and N. Korea for not having used their nuclear arsenal, right?.....

Convince Israel to give up her own 300 plus nukes, and then Iran has absolutely NO reason to pursue its own nuclear quest.
Why don't we just push Israel out into the sea then everybody will be happy, except the Jews.
 
So is Hamas. Hamas fires at civilians, on purpose, as means to their end. Israel fires at known military targets as means to their end. Understand the difference?


A bit too simplistic, don't you think?.....Look, as long as we treat the mess in that area as , "Israel, good.....Arabs, bad" NOTHING will be accomplished to bring stability in that region.
 
Iran believes they can use the bomb to destroy their enemies and be protected by the 12th imam from retaliation. So your argument is garbage

Speaking of garbage, besides what FOX told you about the above, where did you pick up such propaganda nonsense?
 
Anyone who ignores Breitbart is an naive brainwashed liberal.


No,. no, by all means get your "facts" from Breibart.....its what other hate-filled idiots do.....after all, thinking and researching on your own is "taxing" to morons.
 
I find it ironic that right wingers on here simplistically praise Churchill and deride Chamberlain.....but forgetting that it was the Brits. who, mostly created this mess in placing displaced WWII Jews into a Palestine that had, for centuries been occupied by Palestinians and Jews living in relative harmony.
 
No....you are delusional
Iran does not have nukes and is not currently close to them

They have enriched Uranium to 20%....... They need 90% to make a bomb
They have agreed to dismantle facilities capable of enriching uranium further and will destroy current stockpiles

Well the one thing we know to an absolute certainty, is that if the left says that Iran isn't close to a nuke, Iran is on the precipice of an assload of nukes.

Now you are just making shit up

Iran doesn't want nukes......they wanted the threat of nukes as a bargaining chip

Now they get the ......what do we get for destroying our nuclear program?

Iran doesn't want nukes?? WTF?? Dude seriously. The whole world, even Obozo, knows Iran wants nukes. Bargaining chip?? Okay let's say they have been pretending to want nukes ha ha ha, what did they get out of pretending to want nukes???

What do nukes get Iran?

Economic isolation

That shows you how bad they want want nukes that they're willing to face crippling sanctions and still pursue their program. We're talking about the world's foremost terrorist state, them getting the bomb is very dangerous.

Evidently, the sanctions have had their intended effect and brought Iran to the negotiating table
 
Well the one thing we know to an absolute certainty, is that if the left says that Iran isn't close to a nuke, Iran is on the precipice of an assload of nukes.

Now you are just making shit up

Iran doesn't want nukes......they wanted the threat of nukes as a bargaining chip

Now they get the ......what do we get for destroying our nuclear program?

Iran doesn't want nukes?? WTF?? Dude seriously. The whole world, even Obozo, knows Iran wants nukes. Bargaining chip?? Okay let's say they have been pretending to want nukes ha ha ha, what did they get out of pretending to want nukes???

What do nukes get Iran?

Economic isolation

That shows you how bad they want want nukes that they're willing to face crippling sanctions and still pursue their program. We're talking about the world's foremost terrorist state, them getting the bomb is very dangerous.

Evidently, the sanctions have had their intended effect and brought Iran to the negotiating table

The intended effect was to get them to stop building a bomb.
 

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