Decline/Demise of America

[BS Filter]

Which American values?

When we were terrorizing the Cuba population? When we stopped the election in Vietnam because our guy was going to lose? How about the assassination of the President of Vietnam? Carpet bombing of Hanoi? Cambodia? Our intervention in Latin America and our support for dictators across the globe? History is full of our values. We just like to think we hold the high moral ground, but it's a myth.

The United States does hold the high moral ground. The proof of that is the throngs of people wanting to come here from their shitholes.

 

[Mac1958]

Note how everything is acceptable when "my" side does it.

That's the driving ethos of modern politics.

Yep. And we're seeing the predictable results.
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[BlindBoo]

Which American values?

When we were terrorizing the Cuba population? When we stopped the election in Vietnam because our guy was going to lose? How about the assassination of the President of Vietnam? Carpet bombing of Hanoi? Cambodia? Our intervention in Latin America and our support for dictators across the globe? History is full of our values. We just like to think we hold the high moral ground, but it's a myth.

Those aren't values. Do you think we're infallible? You don't have to answer your own sarcasm.

Actions speak loader than words. All of those actions are in opposition to many of the so called values we say we hold near and dear.

 

[BS Filter]

I believe Trump agrees with you and is doing his best to keep those values.

His best isn't good enough.

Who is your choice?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Which American values?

When we were terrorizing the Cuba population? When we stopped the election in Vietnam because our guy was going to lose? How about the assassination of the President of Vietnam? Carpet bombing of Hanoi? Cambodia? Our intervention in Latin America and our support for dictators across the globe? History is full of our values. We just like to think we hold the high moral ground, but it's a myth.

Those aren't values. Do you think we're infallible? You don't have to answer your own sarcasm.

Actions speak loader than words. All of those actions are in opposition to many of the so called values we say we hold near and dear.

In your opinion, did we ever hold the moral high ground?

 

[BookShaka]

This decay began long before Trump.

Trump is merely a symptom.

Agreed, and why I said ir was underway for decades. Trump is speeding it up and definitely not slowing it down.

Can you be a bit more specific? How about a couple examples of what Trump is speeding up.

I would place America's acceptance of a serial prolific compulsive liar on the top of the list.

I can’t believe I have to point this out but YOU and everyone like you aren’t accepting his lies... are you not American?

This is what I mean about lefties not looking at the big picture before they draw conclusions.

 

[BookShaka]

This decay began long before Trump.

Trump is merely a symptom.

Agreed, and why I said ir was underway for decades. Trump is speeding it up and definitely not slowing it down.

Can you be a bit more specific? How about a couple examples of what Trump is speeding up.

We have a First Lady who can be seen by anyone posing naked for soft porn.

Why don’t you cry about it? Aren’t you people for women’s rights? Apparently not the First Lady’s rights though, eh? Hypocrisy aplenty.

 

[BookShaka]

We have a President that calls citizens childish names routinely like a schoolyard bully.

Like calling half of america deplorables?

No, not like that at all... That’s just NOT the same LOLOLOL

 

[BS Filter]

This decay began long before Trump.

Trump is merely a symptom.

Agreed, and why I said ir was underway for decades. Trump is speeding it up and definitely not slowing it down.

Can you be a bit more specific? How about a couple examples of what Trump is speeding up.

We have a First Lady who can be seen by anyone posing naked for soft porn.

Why don’t you cry about it? Aren’t you people for women’s rights? Apparently not the First Lady’s rights though, eh? Hypocrisy aplenty.

Democrats are for women's rights if they're democrats. The NAACP supports black people as long as they support Democrats. Everything is political.

 

[BookShaka]

A decline has been underway for decades, now, Trumpism has speeded the process. American values are in dramatic decline as the USA leader Donald Trump leads the nation in a period of corruption and disregard for basic American principals of morality and human rights. An amoral monster has taken over the reigns of power in America and a corrupted a Republican-led Congress. With no concern of right or wrong, America is quickly losing its strength and viability for existing.

No. Bush and O started their endless wars, corruption, hatred for american values etc. But yes, we are quickly losing our power. The US has nearly completed the circle and time permits for a republic. We're almost back to the point of bondage.

Which war did O start?

O seriously fucked up Libya, thanks to him listening to Hillary Clinton and he’s got nothing to brag about concerning Syria either. Fucking educate yourself. Make yourself look smart for once.

 

[dblack]

I believe Trump agrees with you and is doing his best to keep those values.

His best isn't good enough.

Who is your choice?

Depends on who runs against him. Are you making the lesser-of-two-evils excuse? Because it's irrelevant. Trump is a piece of shit regardless.

 

[BookShaka]

Obama admits that playing golf after denouncing beheading of American journalist looked bad

Careful. These people defend Obama even when Obama can’t defend himself just so they’re “right.” They said there was nothing wrong with Obama’s bowling Special Olympics comment even though Obama himself expressed regret for it LOL.

 

[boedicca]

This decay began long before Trump.

Trump is merely a symptom.

Agreed, and why I said ir was underway for decades. Trump is speeding it up and definitely not slowing it down.

Can you be a bit more specific? How about a couple examples of what Trump is speeding up.

I would place America's acceptance of a serial prolific compulsive liar on the top of the list.

I mark the start of America's decline on the day you were born.

 

[BookShaka]

This decay began long before Trump.

Trump is merely a symptom. A result.

I agree with you that there has been decay. However, I see Trump as the beginning of turning our government back to the accountability to the people and out of the hands of a small group of political elites in both parties and the Federal government.

Dude, that's the opposite of what s happening. tRump is the elitist you are concerned about. Think man, who did he give tax breaks to? Twice now!

We got tax breaks and we’re no millionaires. Funny no one ever responds to me when I tell them this...

 

[Soupnazi630]

This decay began long before Trump.

Trump is merely a symptom.

Agreed, and why I said ir was underway for decades. Trump is speeding it up and definitely not slowing it down.

Can you be a bit more specific? How about a couple examples of what Trump is speeding up.

I would place America's acceptance of a serial prolific compulsive liar on the top of the list.

That's just your partisan opinion, and nothing specific.

A nationally and globally accepted fact.

It is not a fact nor is it globally or nationally accepted

 

[Yousaidwhat]

This decay began long before Trump.

Trump is merely a symptom.

Agreed, and why I said ir was underway for decades. Trump is speeding it up and definitely not slowing it down.

Can you be a bit more specific? How about a couple examples of what Trump is speeding up.

We have a First Lady who can be seen by anyone posing naked for soft porn.

And...

We've been exposed to soft porn on TV for some time.

 

[Windparadox]

The United States does hold the high moral ground. The proof of that is the throngs of people wanting to come here from their shitholes.

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The US and "moral high ground" is an oxymoron. Under tump, what little moral values the US had have been shredded. Arguably, tump is the antithesis to morality and virtuousness.

 

[Aurora Woman]

I agree with you that there has been decay. However, I see Trump as the beginning of turning our government back to the accountability to the people and out of the hands of a small group of political elites in both parties and the Federal government.

How so?

 

[BS Filter]

I agree with you that there has been decay. However, I see Trump as the beginning of turning our government back to the accountability to the people and out of the hands of a small group of political elites in both parties and the Federal government.

How so?

By fighting back and standing up to them instead of trying to get along. Trump calls them out and calls them exactly what they are. That's why both sides are trying to shut him up. This is what many Americans have been longing for and we're finally getting it. Trump talks like the average guy that's sick and tired of the double standard.

 

[Aurora Woman]

By fighting back and standing up to them instead of trying to get along. Trump calls them out and calls them exactly what they are. That's why both sides are trying to shut him up. This is what many Americans have been longing for and we're finally getting it. Trump talks like the average guy that's sick and tired of the double standard.

Interesting take. I see an insecure, thin-skinned privileged bully who prances around naked, yet has convinced a significant number of people that he is garbed in gold and is the most amazingly effective leader ever. The reality is that he gets along with no one, has no principles, gets his way by bullying and blustering, and represents the absolute worst traits of humanity: racism, willful ignorance, immorality, bigotry, cheating, lying, irresponsibility, inability to admit making an error, and extreme selfishness. *You* may believe that Trump is "doing the will of the people." In reality, his own only guiding star is a glowing letter "T" for Trump.

Not that you asked for my advice, but here's some anyways. Don't like the government and the people who allegedly represent us? Stop voting for them. Find and support alternative candidates, true "rogues" and "mavericks." Trump is no different than the rest of them; they just wear expensive suits to cover up their venial natures while Trump has you believing that his suit is made of spun gold.