Dem 2020 Presidential platform: Ban 'assault weapons'!!!!'

[2aguy]

The left always seems to believe that crimminals will somehow magically decide to follow a gun ban. They will stop using guns and somehow stop selling guns.
.

There is no reason to think that at all.

In fact I'd expect an assault weapon ban to cause more shootings. Those who are committed to committing Mayhem, will do as they have done in Chicago for generations. Buy their weapons on the black market in the back rooms of bars, out of guy's trunks, etc. And there will be ZERO background checks.

In NewYork City, there is a ban on this kind of firearms too. But it didn't stop men like John Wick from carrying and using all kinds of weaponry.

lastly, those who are targeting the general population will see law abiders as soft touches who can, and WILL be slaughtered at will.

Gun control isn't expected to stop every single murder, so what one person manages to do does not make the idea a wash.
Take a look at what REALLY happened with NYC's tight gun laws. Gun. Control. Works. When it is done wholeheartedly and with a will.

Gun control didn't reduce the gun murder rate in New York....Guiliani's stop and frisk policy lowered the gun murder rate...as did his broken windows approach and crime statistic approach......now diblasio has thrown all of that away.....and now the murder rate is going up...

https://nypost.com/2019/03/09/murders-up-30-percent-in-new-york-city-this-year/

And the beginning of an alarming uptick in killings across the city.

The 2019 citywide body count is up to 55, a 30-percent increase from the same period in 2018, when the NYPD recorded 289 murders, the fewest in 70 years.

What’s Behind the Murder Spike in Brooklyn?

“They’re gang-related shootings, and it’s the same related individuals who are showing up,” said Chief Terence A. Monahan, the department’s highest-ranking uniformed officer. He added that some of the people detained in connection with recent shootings were facing gun charges in other boroughs and had been released on bail.

There have been 21 killings so far in the Brooklyn North precincts, compared to 12 at this time last year. Many of those killings have been clustered in neighborhoods like East New York and Brownsville. Others have occurred on the edges of rapidly gentrifying areas like Bushwick and Bedford-Stuyvesant, where there were four murders within a five-block radius earlier this year.

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Denise Davis, 52, said a shooting in January inside the Lafayette Gardens public housing complex stood out in her mind because the neighborhood had become safer in recent years.

“There used to be a lot of shooting over here — especially right here,” Ms. Davis said as she stood near the intersection of Franklin and Lafayette Avenues. “It has quieted down a little bit, but you’ve still got robberies going on.”

There were some signs of insecurity and unease. “Drugs, guns and noise,” was the neighborhood portrait offered by one man as he walked along Franklin Avenue. He declined to give his name.

“Things have gotten shadier lately,” said Hannah Weikert, a senior at Pratt Institute who shares an apartment in Clinton Hill.

 

[2aguy]

The left always seems to believe that crimminals will somehow magically decide to follow a gun ban. They will stop using guns and somehow stop selling guns.
.

There is no reason to think that at all.

In fact I'd expect an assault weapon ban to cause more shootings. Those who are committed to committing Mayhem, will do as they have done in Chicago for generations. Buy their weapons on the black market in the back rooms of bars, out of guy's trunks, etc. And there will be ZERO background checks.

In NewYork City, there is a ban on this kind of firearms too. But it didn't stop men like John Wick from carrying and using all kinds of weaponry.

lastly, those who are targeting the general population will see law abiders as soft touches who can, and WILL be slaughtered at will.

Gun control isn't expected to stop every single murder, so what one person manages to do does not make the idea a wash.
Take a look at what REALLY happened with NYC's tight gun laws. Gun. Control. Works. When it is done wholeheartedly and with a will.

Guiliani reduced crime, bloomberg kept his policies in place.......diblasio the commie threw out those policies......

Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say

 

[Rustic]

Firearms have no control over people....

 

[OldLady]

Great . You what an AR to shoot police and or military cause you are mad at the politicians . Well that’s a shit
reason to allow them.

An awful lot of fantasy there timmy.

That’s the gun nut fantasy. Play it out . When you say you need an AR to check the government, then it means you’ll be shooting cops and politicians . Just be honest and own it .

Yeah like those terrible Alaskans that helped fight the Japanese in the Aleutian Islands during world War 2. So shocking that they should have had guns to help repel an invading force. They should never have been allowed to have guns which they used for hunting to help feed the American Army while they were fighting in those same islands.

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

 

[Rustic]

An awful lot of fantasy there timmy.

That’s the gun nut fantasy. Play it out . When you say you need an AR to check the government, then it means you’ll be shooting cops and politicians . Just be honest and own it .

Yeah like those terrible Alaskans that helped fight the Japanese in the Aleutian Islands during world War 2. So shocking that they should have had guns to help repel an invading force. They should never have been allowed to have guns which they used for hunting to help feed the American Army while they were fighting in those same islands.

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Lol
You are a fucking retard, it’s easily the most bought firearm for hunting in America right now.

For hunting varmints ~ Prairie dogs, coyotes, Fox, crows, hogs, rabbits etc... You can’t get any better.

And people are seeing the value of it for deer, antelope hunting etc evermore.
Ar 15-10 Can be in most every cartridge now.
You can customize them to any hunting application there is. You need to educate yourself on the subject and quit watching Hollywood types.
Obviously you know nothing on the subject you fucking retard

 

[Polishprince]

. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Depends on what kind of threats someone faces as to whether they should actually exercise the right to own an AR15 or not.

But the right to bear arms is right in the Constitution, endowed to us by Almighty God.

Did you know that the President's bodyguards are very heavily armed? Is that wrong? I don't think so, because he made the assessment of the danger first.

Same with anyone else. Keanu Reeves was just minding his own business recently, when a dozen assassins engaged in a home invasion and tried to whack him. Fortunately, he had the weapons he needed as well.

 

[OldLady]

The left always seems to believe that crimminals will somehow magically decide to follow a gun ban. They will stop using guns and somehow stop selling guns.
.

There is no reason to think that at all.

In fact I'd expect an assault weapon ban to cause more shootings. Those who are committed to committing Mayhem, will do as they have done in Chicago for generations. Buy their weapons on the black market in the back rooms of bars, out of guy's trunks, etc. And there will be ZERO background checks.

In NewYork City, there is a ban on this kind of firearms too. But it didn't stop men like John Wick from carrying and using all kinds of weaponry.

lastly, those who are targeting the general population will see law abiders as soft touches who can, and WILL be slaughtered at will.

Gun control isn't expected to stop every single murder, so what one person manages to do does not make the idea a wash.
Take a look at what REALLY happened with NYC's tight gun laws. Gun. Control. Works. When it is done wholeheartedly and with a will.

Guiliani reduced crime, bloomberg kept his policies in place.......diblasio the commie threw out those policies......

Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say

So it's all thanks to the end of the "stop and frisk" program, you think?

 

[OldLady]

That’s the gun nut fantasy. Play it out . When you say you need an AR to check the government, then it means you’ll be shooting cops and politicians . Just be honest and own it .

Yeah like those terrible Alaskans that helped fight the Japanese in the Aleutian Islands during world War 2. So shocking that they should have had guns to help repel an invading force. They should never have been allowed to have guns which they used for hunting to help feed the American Army while they were fighting in those same islands.

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Lol
You are a fucking retard, it’s easily the most bought firearm for hunting in America right now.

For hunting varmints ~ Prairie dogs, coyotes, Fox, crows, hogs, rabbits etc... You can’t get any better.

And people are seeing the value of it for deer, antelope hunting etc evermore.
Ar 15-10 Can be in most every cartridge now.
You can customize them to any hunting application there is. You need to educate yourself on the subject and quit watching Hollywood types.
Obviously you know nothing on the subject you fucking retard

Top New Hunting and Long Range Rifles 2018
These are hunting rifles, not AR's.

 

[OldLady]

. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Depends on what kind of threats someone faces as to whether they should actually exercise the right to own an AR15 or not.

But the right to bear arms is right in the Constitution, endowed to us by Almighty God.

Did you know that the President's bodyguards are very heavily armed? Is that wrong? I don't think so, because he made the assessment of the danger first.

Same with anyone else. Keanu Reeves was just minding his own business recently, when a dozen assassins engaged in a home invasion and tried to whack him. Fortunately, he had the weapons he needed as well.

Almighty God told us, "Thou shalt not kill." Remember? He did not write the goddamned US Constitution, no matter what anyone says.

 

[Polishprince]

. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Depends on what kind of threats someone faces as to whether they should actually exercise the right to own an AR15 or not.

But the right to bear arms is right in the Constitution, endowed to us by Almighty God.

Did you know that the President's bodyguards are very heavily armed? Is that wrong? I don't think so, because he made the assessment of the danger first.

Same with anyone else. Keanu Reeves was just minding his own business recently, when a dozen assassins engaged in a home invasion and tried to whack him. Fortunately, he had the weapons he needed as well.

Almighty God told us, "Thou shalt not kill." Remember? He did not write the goddamned US Constitution, no matter what anyone says.

Do you believe Almighty God is against Self Defense? Should the President dismiss the entire Secret Service bodyguard detail as "unbiblical"? Or at least disarm the Secret Service?

 

[Rustic]

Yeah like those terrible Alaskans that helped fight the Japanese in the Aleutian Islands during world War 2. So shocking that they should have had guns to help repel an invading force. They should never have been allowed to have guns which they used for hunting to help feed the American Army while they were fighting in those same islands.

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Lol
You are a fucking retard, it’s easily the most bought firearm for hunting in America right now.

For hunting varmints ~ Prairie dogs, coyotes, Fox, crows, hogs, rabbits etc... You can’t get any better.

And people are seeing the value of it for deer, antelope hunting etc evermore.
Ar 15-10 Can be in most every cartridge now.
You can customize them to any hunting application there is. You need to educate yourself on the subject and quit watching Hollywood types.
Obviously you know nothing on the subject you fucking retard

Top New Hunting and Long Range Rifles 2018
These are hunting rifles, not AR's.

Lol
Actually you know nothing of the subject just by posting that.
ARs are fully customizable for ANY hunting application, Because they are sporting rifle’s nothing more nothing less.
Best AR Rifles for Big Game Hunting

5 Reasons To Hunt With An AR-15 Rifle | Brenton USA

Best AR-Style Rifles for Hunting & Personal Defense

 

[francoHFW]

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Lol
You are a fucking retard, it’s easily the most bought firearm for hunting in America right now.

For hunting varmints ~ Prairie dogs, coyotes, Fox, crows, hogs, rabbits etc... You can’t get any better.

And people are seeing the value of it for deer, antelope hunting etc evermore.
Ar 15-10 Can be in most every cartridge now.
You can customize them to any hunting application there is. You need to educate yourself on the subject and quit watching Hollywood types.
Obviously you know nothing on the subject you fucking retard

Top New Hunting and Long Range Rifles 2018
These are hunting rifles, not AR's.

Lol
Actually you know nothing of the subject just by posting that.
ARs are fully customizable for ANY hunting application, Because they are sporting rifle’s nothing more nothing less.
Best AR Rifles for Big Game Hunting

5 Reasons To Hunt With An AR-15 Rifle | Brenton USA

Best AR-Style Rifles for Hunting & Personal Defense

Yes let's let gun dealers decide our policy LOL

 

[2aguy]

An awful lot of fantasy there timmy.

That’s the gun nut fantasy. Play it out . When you say you need an AR to check the government, then it means you’ll be shooting cops and politicians . Just be honest and own it .

Yeah like those terrible Alaskans that helped fight the Japanese in the Aleutian Islands during world War 2. So shocking that they should have had guns to help repel an invading force. They should never have been allowed to have guns which they used for hunting to help feed the American Army while they were fighting in those same islands.

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Do you understand that the thing you are complaining about is the package, not the insides? The AR-15 is no different from any other semi-auto hunting rifle.....do you understand that?

You are essentially saying that no one needs a Toyota because of the way it looks because everyone you know can get by with a Honda.......the only thing you are reacting to is the outside packaging, not the actually reality of the weapon...do you understand that?

 

[2aguy]

The left always seems to believe that crimminals will somehow magically decide to follow a gun ban. They will stop using guns and somehow stop selling guns.
.

There is no reason to think that at all.

In fact I'd expect an assault weapon ban to cause more shootings. Those who are committed to committing Mayhem, will do as they have done in Chicago for generations. Buy their weapons on the black market in the back rooms of bars, out of guy's trunks, etc. And there will be ZERO background checks.

In NewYork City, there is a ban on this kind of firearms too. But it didn't stop men like John Wick from carrying and using all kinds of weaponry.

lastly, those who are targeting the general population will see law abiders as soft touches who can, and WILL be slaughtered at will.

Gun control isn't expected to stop every single murder, so what one person manages to do does not make the idea a wash.
Take a look at what REALLY happened with NYC's tight gun laws. Gun. Control. Works. When it is done wholeheartedly and with a will.

Guiliani reduced crime, bloomberg kept his policies in place.......diblasio the commie threw out those policies......

Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say

So it's all thanks to the end of the "stop and frisk" program, you think?

Not just that, but they used broken window policing...someone jumps the turnstile, someone urinates on the street, you stop them and run their names...you catch people with parole violations and warrants.....and you let the criminals know that they will be pursued.....they also used crime statistics to know where the actual crimes were happening and were able to put more officers in those locations when they knew more crime would be committed there........

diblasio stopped all of that....and the murder rate is going up.

 

[2aguy]

. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Depends on what kind of threats someone faces as to whether they should actually exercise the right to own an AR15 or not.

But the right to bear arms is right in the Constitution, endowed to us by Almighty God.

Did you know that the President's bodyguards are very heavily armed? Is that wrong? I don't think so, because he made the assessment of the danger first.

Same with anyone else. Keanu Reeves was just minding his own business recently, when a dozen assassins engaged in a home invasion and tried to whack him. Fortunately, he had the weapons he needed as well.

Almighty God told us, "Thou shalt not kill." Remember? He did not write the goddamned US Constitution, no matter what anyone says.

The correct quote is, "Thou Shalt do no Murder."

 

[airplanemechanic]

How does one define "assault weapon?" It's not an actual type of weapon, it's a phrase coined by the left wing media to describe any gun that looks scary.

 

[airplanemechanic]

No surprise, right?
Every Dem who spoke on guns in the 2 nights of debate declared the need to ban 'assault weapon' - to save our schools, to save our kids, shopping malls, movie theaters, gay bars, etc. It's almost as if this little bit of leftist dogma is chiseled into their souls.

A question for those who agree with the candidates:
If there is, as they claim, a NEED to ban these guns, if banning these guns is, as they say, NECESSARY for the safety of whomever - what does a ban on the manufacturer and sale of new 'assault weapons' accomplish?

Alright, ban the bullets instead.

If we can ban the gas that powers the cars that are used to kill 35000 people every year.

 

[francoHFW]

That’s the gun nut fantasy. Play it out . When you say you need an AR to check the government, then it means you’ll be shooting cops and politicians . Just be honest and own it .

Yeah like those terrible Alaskans that helped fight the Japanese in the Aleutian Islands during world War 2. So shocking that they should have had guns to help repel an invading force. They should never have been allowed to have guns which they used for hunting to help feed the American Army while they were fighting in those same islands.

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Do you understand that the thing you are complaining about is the package, not the insides? The AR-15 is no different from any other semi-auto hunting rifle.....do you understand that?

You are essentially saying that no one needs a Toyota because of the way it looks because everyone you know can get by with a Honda.......the only thing you are reacting to is the outside packaging, not the actually reality of the weapon...do you understand that?

Yes I do. Too many insane people in the United States who go even crazier with military-style weapons.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah like those terrible Alaskans that helped fight the Japanese in the Aleutian Islands during world War 2. So shocking that they should have had guns to help repel an invading force. They should never have been allowed to have guns which they used for hunting to help feed the American Army while they were fighting in those same islands.

No one is against hunting weapons, brainwashed functional moron.

Everyone of the guns Dems want to ban is nothing more then a hunting rifle nit wit.

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters. You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Do you understand that the thing you are complaining about is the package, not the insides? The AR-15 is no different from any other semi-auto hunting rifle.....do you understand that?

You are essentially saying that no one needs a Toyota because of the way it looks because everyone you know can get by with a Honda.......the only thing you are reacting to is the outside packaging, not the actually reality of the weapon...do you understand that?

Yes I do. Too many insane people in the United States who go even crazier with military-style weapons.

Do you realize that more people are killed by other people with knives than all categories of rifles.......that more people are killed with clubs and bare hands than with rifles...

So...according to your logic, knives need to be banned, since they kill more people, by a lot......clubs need to be banned, and so do bare hands....

That is where your logic goes.

Now rifles are used to intentionally murder people.....cars accidentally kill more people than cars....so according to your logic, cars also need to be banned.

You logic doesn't work....

 

[M14 Shooter]

That is completely untrue. I don't know a single hunter that uses an AR15 to hunt anything. And I know a LOT of hunters.

You know this means nothing, right?

You lying assholes make it too easy to shrug you off as drooling NRA bots. What right do you think you have to own these weapons designed to kill as many people as quickly as possible?

Oh look - another useful idiot, ,mindlessly parroting the misinformation given to her by her masters.
We have a right to own them because they are in common use for the traditionally legal purposes of a firearm, and thus fall into the category of "bearable arms" under 2nd Amendment jurisprudence.