Dem introduces bills to eliminate electoral college, stop presidents from pardoning themselves

[Uncensored2008]

They have to appease their base with this nonsense that they know will go nowhere.

This is the more practical approach: National Popular Vote

Why not just restrict the vote for president to California?

Be direct about it?

 

[Asclepias]

They have to appease their base with this nonsense that they know will go nowhere.

This is the more practical approach: National Popular Vote

Why not just restrict the vote for president to California?

Be direct about it?

Because people in other states voted for someone other than the retard we currently have in office?

 

[H B Lowrie]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

 

[Pogo]

The EC is certainly obsolete; but the only people I know who want the President to maintain pardon power for himself, family and associates are alt-right Trump sheep who want white-collar crime legalized.

Also, Hillary did not sell Russia 20% of U.S. uranium. If you somehow still believe that, there is no point in engaging you about anythiong.

The Electoral College assures that all of the states have some say in determining their President. Why give all the power to California and New York?

Why float easily-debunked mythologies as false premises?

It spreads it out, and means that candidates have to appeal to many states.

BULL.
SHIT.

No Virginia, in practice it does the exact opposite. Republican candies don't bother to go to California, Democratic candies don't bother with Texas, and nobody goes to Alaska or Hawaìi because the Duopoly already carved them up by 'gentlemen's agreement'. The fact is most states are known to be going "red" or "blue", a concept which would not even EXIST without the WTA Electoral College system, which means there's as little reason for the opposite-colored candidate to go there as there is for any of their citizens to vote, because neither one is gonna make a god damned bit of difference to the result.

THAT's what a fixed election is.

 

[Meister]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

So get rid of a republic and enter a mob rule democracy?

 

[Polishprince]

They have to appease their base with this nonsense that they know will go nowhere.

This is the more practical approach: National Popular Vote

Why not just restrict the vote for president to California?

Be direct about it?

Because people in other states voted for someone other than the retard we currently have in office?

Suppose the Leftards were able to manipulate the situation and seize power in Washington. President Trump and his family abdicate and are forced out.

What kind of punishment do the libs have in mind for Deplorable Americans?

 

[Asclepias]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

So get rid of a republic and enter a mob rule democracy?

How do we vote for governors?

 

[MarathonMike]

What is hilarious is the Electoral College in a few short years will be an enormous advantage to Democrats with Arizona and Texas shifting Left. So go ahead, knock yourselves out.

 

[Pogo]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

I'm still waiting for these EC wankers to essplain why four of the first five POTUSes (and eight of the first nine administrations) were all slaveholders from the state that had the most Slave Power EC votes. Speaking of population concentrations....

---- and amazingly this point will sail completely over the head of the very next post.

 

[kyzr]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

Not to the slave states, but to the smaller states. Its the system we have, it works well, and it won't ever be changed because it would take too many states to agree, so its really stupid to debate. The EC is here to stay.

 

[Meister]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

So get rid of a republic and enter a mob rule democracy?

How do we vote for governors?

At a state level, not federal level. You should know this.

 

[Pogo]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

So get rid of a republic and enter a mob rule democracy?

How do we vote for governors?

Zackly. If a wacko proxy-system were a valid thing we should have county electors filtering out the BIG BAD DANGEROUS urban centers and giving that state's flyover counties an "equal footing". And yet to date the number of states that have ever done that is still.......................... Zero.

 

[Asclepias]

In doing so they prove they are too stupid to understand why the Electoral College was established to begin with and why it is so important today - all they understand is 'Hillary lost because of the Electoral College'....

Which brings me to my 2nd point:

HILLARY CLINTON DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE

Without having to address her long history of scandal / sexual misconduct enabling / abandoning Americans to needlessly die / selling Russia 20% of the US' uranium, compromising our national security / etc.... Hillary Clinton should NEVER have been in the election to begin with as she failed to WIN her own party's nomination. The election should have been Sanders versus Trump.



House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power and more in first days back

Nothing to do with Hillary, she's toast and rightly so.

It is long past due time to scrap this vestigial anti-democratic remnant of compromise to the slave states of the Antebellum Planter aristocracy.

So get rid of a republic and enter a mob rule democracy?

How do we vote for governors?

At a state level, not federal level. You should know this.

We dont use a mob rule democracy to get it done?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Suppose the Leftards were able to manipulate the situation and seize power in Washington. President Trump and his family abdicate and are forced out.

What kind of punishment do the libs have in mind for Deplorable Americans?

Forced labor camps. The left always has the same answer in this case. Concentration camps are the go to for every leftist.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The EC is certainly obsolete; but the only people I know who want the President to maintain pardon power for himself, family and associates are alt-right Trump sheep who want white-collar crime legalized.

Also, Hillary did not sell Russia 20% of U.S. uranium. If you somehow still believe that, there is no point in engaging you about anythiong.

The Electoral College assures that all of the states have some say in determining their President. Why give all the power to California and New York?

Why float easily-debunked mythologies as false premises?

It spreads it out, and means that candidates have to appeal to many states.

BULL.
SHIT.

No Virginia, in practice it does the exact opposite. Republican candies don't bother to go to California, Democratic candies don't bother with Texas, and nobody goes to Alaska or Hawaìi because the Duopoly already carved them up by 'gentlemen's agreement'. The fact is most states are known to be going "red" or "blue", a concept which would not even EXIST without the WTA Electoral College system, which means there's as little reason for the opposite-colored candidate to go there as there is for any of their citizens to vote, because neither one is gonna make a god damned bit of difference to the result.

THAT's what a fixed election is.

And if you got rid of it you'd have the candidates spending all their time in California, New York, Texas, and Florida. I don't see how that remedies anything.

 

[Polishprince]

What is hilarious is the Electoral College in a few short years will be an enormous advantage to Democrats with Arizona and Texas shifting Left. So go ahead, knock yourselves out.

If Texas and Arizona turn Marxist, the country is through and won't elect Freedom Lover for a hundred generations, regardless of whether the Electoral College lives or dies.

 

[Asclepias]

The EC is certainly obsolete; but the only people I know who want the President to maintain pardon power for himself, family and associates are alt-right Trump sheep who want white-collar crime legalized.

Also, Hillary did not sell Russia 20% of U.S. uranium. If you somehow still believe that, there is no point in engaging you about anythiong.

The Electoral College assures that all of the states have some say in determining their President. Why give all the power to California and New York?

Why float easily-debunked mythologies as false premises?

It spreads it out, and means that candidates have to appeal to many states.

BULL.
SHIT.

No Virginia, in practice it does the exact opposite. Republican candies don't bother to go to California, Democratic candies don't bother with Texas, and nobody goes to Alaska or Hawaìi because the Duopoly already carved them up by 'gentlemen's agreement'. The fact is most states are known to be going "red" or "blue", a concept which would not even EXIST without the WTA Electoral College system, which means there's as little reason for the opposite-colored candidate to go there as there is for any of their citizens to vote, because neither one is gonna make a god damned bit of difference to the result.

THAT's what a fixed election is.

And if you got rid of it you'd have the candidates spending all their time in California, New York, Texas, and Florida. I don't see how that remedies anything.

it remedies that the general population doesnt decide the POTUS.

 

[kyzr]

The EC is certainly obsolete; but the only people I know who want the President to maintain pardon power for himself, family and associates are alt-right Trump sheep who want white-collar crime legalized.

Also, Hillary did not sell Russia 20% of U.S. uranium. If you somehow still believe that, there is no point in engaging you about anythiong.

The Electoral College assures that all of the states have some say in determining their President. Why give all the power to California and New York?

Why float easily-debunked mythologies as false premises?

It spreads it out, and means that candidates have to appeal to many states.

BULL.
SHIT.

No Virginia, in practice it does the exact opposite. Republican candies don't bother to go to California, Democratic candies don't bother with Texas, and nobody goes to Alaska or Hawaìi because the Duopoly already carved them up by 'gentlemen's agreement'. The fact is most states are known to be going "red" or "blue", a concept which would not even EXIST without the WTA Electoral College system, which means there's as little reason for the opposite-colored candidate to go there as there is for any of their citizens to vote, because neither one is gonna make a god damned bit of difference to the result. THAT's what a fixed election is.

WRONG. Both parties win in multiple states, just look at the maps in these presidential races, any candidate can win in most states, very few are a lock for one party.

in 1968 1968 United States presidential election - Wikipedia
in 2008 2008 United States presidential election - Wikipedia
in 2016 2016 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

 

[Polishprince]

Suppose the Leftards were able to manipulate the situation and seize power in Washington. President Trump and his family abdicate and are forced out.

What kind of punishment do the libs have in mind for Deplorable Americans?

Forced labor camps. The left always has the same answer in this case. Concentration camps are the go to for every leftist.

Of course you're right. Forced Labor is the only way a socialist nation can keep up production so most of the people don't die off.

Its where Chavez and Madura made their mistake down in Venezuela, and why they are starving to a degree Cuba isn't.

In Cuba, they feed their Deplorables octopus 3 times a day, but at least they are eating. Venezuela needs to drive people out to do forced labor in the fields.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm still waiting for these EC wankers to essplain why four of the first five POTUSes (and eight of the first nine administrations) were all slaveholders from the state that had the most Slave Power EC votes. Speaking of population concentrations....

---- and amazingly this point will sail completely over the head of the very next post.

Oh, look, Sluggo put his partisan ignorance on display.

What state was it that the first five presidents came from stupid fuck? It's Virginia, dumbass. Now you uneducated dolt, WHY would Virginia be significant at the time?

Anyone? Sluggo? Bueller?

So shit fer brains, explain why 40 plus states should be denied any say in the governance of the executive branch? Hmmm???