Democracy: Yes or No

[dblack]

So you believe all right-wing propaganda then, super duper? Socialists are always democratic and are not Nazis. What they really meant was they had a war economy with socialist benefits, paid for by debt and Jewish confiscations. Not leftist at all. That is a brand new theory that disgusts all historians, just GOP propaganda. To confuse you ignoramuses.

Whoever taught you history, you have a good case for malpractice.

it wasn't some bought off radio demagogue or whatever wherever you get this crap now.... LOL Hobart College University of Buffalo University of Rochester sorbonne.

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

All democracies end in suicide and America is fast approaching the destruction unless a democracy of high logic voters comes before the destruction

 

[daveman]

Whoever taught you history, you have a good case for malpractice.

it wasn't some bought off radio demagogue or whatever wherever you get this crap now.... LOL Hobart College University of Buffalo University of Rochester sorbonne.

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

But you've claimed before he doesn't know anything about Communism, so there's that.

Communism has always been put in by violent revolution and it sucks. Lenin was nuts. So was Marx. all wrong. Look at page 1 of this thread. socialists parted from communism in 1923 and then finally in 1951. Every country that has A communist party and democracy has a socialist party that is totally different. Republicans are totally brainwashed clueless. The Cold War is over the Communists lost.

You can vote yourself into socialism -- but you have to shoot your way out.

Unless, of course, the socialists in charge have disarmed you. SEE Venezuela.

 

[daveman]

You said it...as if that was a refutation.

I say you're an idiot. But the difference between us is, I have proof.

All the examples they have of Obama doing unconstitutional things are garbage and very highly debatable. The Federalist is just part of the GOP propaganda echo chamber. Easy money for hacksMegan.

Well, it's no CNN, I'll give you that.

It is run by Megan's husband. Quite a hack.

Megan's husband, the raging moonbat leftist? Yeah.

Meghan McCain her husband is an idiot conservative. The only kind.

Oh, I wouldn't know. I don't watch CNN's Marxist, anti-American propaganda. But you do you, Skippy.

 

[daveman]

Whoever taught you history, you have a good case for malpractice.

it wasn't some bought off radio demagogue or whatever wherever you get this crap now.... LOL Hobart College University of Buffalo University of Rochester sorbonne.

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

There is when the people don't want socialism.

 

[francoHFW]

it wasn't some bought off radio demagogue or whatever wherever you get this crap now.... LOL Hobart College University of Buffalo University of Rochester sorbonne.

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

But you've claimed before he doesn't know anything about Communism, so there's that.

Communism has always been put in by violent revolution and it sucks. Lenin was nuts. So was Marx. all wrong. Look at page 1 of this thread. socialists parted from communism in 1923 and then finally in 1951. Every country that has A communist party and democracy has a socialist party that is totally different. Republicans are totally brainwashed clueless. The Cold War is over the Communists lost.

You can vote yourself into socialism -- but you have to shoot your way out.

Unless, of course, the socialists in charge have disarmed you. SEE Venezuela.

Bulshit. See every successful modern country.

 

[francoHFW]

Whoever taught you history, you have a good case for malpractice.

it wasn't some bought off radio demagogue or whatever wherever you get this crap now.... LOL Hobart College University of Buffalo University of Rochester sorbonne.

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons? Democratically is the definition of collaboratively and voluntarily. Idiocy

 

[daveman]

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

But you've claimed before he doesn't know anything about Communism, so there's that.

Communism has always been put in by violent revolution and it sucks. Lenin was nuts. So was Marx. all wrong. Look at page 1 of this thread. socialists parted from communism in 1923 and then finally in 1951. Every country that has A communist party and democracy has a socialist party that is totally different. Republicans are totally brainwashed clueless. The Cold War is over the Communists lost.

You can vote yourself into socialism -- but you have to shoot your way out.

Unless, of course, the socialists in charge have disarmed you. SEE Venezuela.

Bulshit. See every successful modern country.

I have. The successful ones have mixed systems. The ones with pure socialism are utter failures.

Unless, of course, you think people eating their pets is a sign of success.

 

[francoHFW]

All the examples they have of Obama doing unconstitutional things are garbage and very highly debatable. The Federalist is just part of the GOP propaganda echo chamber. Easy money for hacksMegan.

Well, it's no CNN, I'll give you that.

It is run by Megan's husband. Quite a hack.

Megan's husband, the raging moonbat leftist? Yeah.

Meghan McCain her husband is an idiot conservative. The only kind.

Oh, I wouldn't know. I don't watch CNN's Marxist, anti-American propaganda. But you do you, Skippy.

Being anti-gop give away to the rich and scumbag BS propaganda parrot Trump is hardly anti-American. You people think he was a great businessman what a joke. He is a con man. Or I wish he would get smart fast

 

[francoHFW]

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

But you've claimed before he doesn't know anything about Communism, so there's that.

Communism has always been put in by violent revolution and it sucks. Lenin was nuts. So was Marx. all wrong. Look at page 1 of this thread. socialists parted from communism in 1923 and then finally in 1951. Every country that has A communist party and democracy has a socialist party that is totally different. Republicans are totally brainwashed clueless. The Cold War is over the Communists lost.

You can vote yourself into socialism -- but you have to shoot your way out.

Unless, of course, the socialists in charge have disarmed you. SEE Venezuela.

Bulshit. See every successful modern country.

I have. The successful ones have mixed systems. The ones with pure socialism are utter failures.

Unless, of course, you think people eating their pets is a sign of success.

America has made sure they can't even sell their oil anymore and you don't know about that LOL they still hate us so much they continue supporting Maduro. Great job!

 

[dblack]

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons?

Since it was used as a form of government. That's how laws work - you break them, you face the brute force of government (police, soldiers, etc...). Defy them and you'll be killed.

You democracy cheerleaders think that the will of the majority somehow blesses the violence, that it makes it righteous and holy. But it doesn't. It's just as wrong for the many to bully the few as it is for the few to bully the many.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

it wasn't some bought off radio demagogue or whatever wherever you get this crap now.... LOL Hobart College University of Buffalo University of Rochester sorbonne.

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons? Democratically is the definition of collaboratively and voluntarily. Idiocy

Rhodesia ... South Africa got destroyed because of making a more wide democracy

 

[francoHFW]

Shame those once-good schools started pushing Marxist propaganda on people too unsophisticated to question it.

But then, no rational person chooses to embrace your beliefs. It has to be forced on people.

No American I've ever heard of is for Marxist dictatorship owning all property and Industry. You're out of your mind. Socialism is not communism 4 60 years now. You are fear-mongers to the point of brainlessness dangerous idiocy LOL. Bernie and I are talking up fairness instead of inequality and give away to the rich, super duper.

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Lenin

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons? Democratically is the definition of collaboratively and voluntarily. Idiocy

Rhodesia ... South Africa got destroyed because of making a more wide democracy

South Africa is a heck of a lot better place that ever was, unless you think racist suffering is great.... Kind of a unique place. The colonists should probably go home. But give em time...

 

[francoHFW]

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons?

Since it was used as a form of government. That's how laws work - you break them, you face the brute force of government (police, soldiers, etc...). Defy them and you'll be killed.

You democracy cheerleaders think that the will of the majority somehow blesses the violence, that it makes it righteous and holy. But it doesn't. It's just as wrong for the many to bully the few as it is for the few to bully the many.

Luckily we have laws to protect the few and the Constitution thank God. South Africa is doing okay considering.

 

[dblack]

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons?

Since it was used as a form of government. That's how laws work - you break them, you face the brute force of government (police, soldiers, etc...). Defy them and you'll be killed.

You democracy cheerleaders think that the will of the majority somehow blesses the violence, that it makes it righteous and holy. But it doesn't. It's just as wrong for the many to bully the few as it is for the few to bully the many.

Luckily we have laws to protect the few and the Constitution thank God. South Africa is doing okay considering.

And how do you think the Constitution protects the few?

 

[francoHFW]

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons?

Since it was used as a form of government. That's how laws work - you break them, you face the brute force of government (police, soldiers, etc...). Defy them and you'll be killed.

You democracy cheerleaders think that the will of the majority somehow blesses the violence, that it makes it righteous and holy. But it doesn't. It's just as wrong for the many to bully the few as it is for the few to bully the many.

Luckily we have laws to protect the few and the Constitution thank God. South Africa is doing okay considering.

And how do you think the Constitution protects the few?

We have courts and laws. For example they proved Hillary is basically honest, super duper. Our major problem is the GOP BS propaganda machine, a disgrace.

 

[dblack]

According to their web page, the Democratic Socialists of America "believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically". I don't think either should be run democratically. Both society and the economy should be run collaboratively and voluntarily. There's no reason to resort to force.

Since when did democratically mean violence, brainwashed functional morons?

Since it was used as a form of government. That's how laws work - you break them, you face the brute force of government (police, soldiers, etc...). Defy them and you'll be killed.

You democracy cheerleaders think that the will of the majority somehow blesses the violence, that it makes it righteous and holy. But it doesn't. It's just as wrong for the many to bully the few as it is for the few to bully the many.

Luckily we have laws to protect the few and the Constitution thank God. South Africa is doing okay considering.

And how do you think the Constitution protects the few?

We have courts and laws. For example they proved Hillary is basically honest, super duper. Our major problem is the GOP BS propaganda machine, a disgrace.

And how should the Court limit the government? What sorts of things should government be empowered to do? Anything?

 

[JimBowie1958]

then why do you need a driver's license or passport to fly?

Because The State has stolen your right to freely travel and sold it back to you as a privilege.

Since when did nations not control their own borders, dude?

 

[dblack]

then why do you need a driver's license or passport to fly?

Because The State has stolen your right to freely travel and sold it back to you as a privilege.

That's the border wall argument in a nutshell.

 

[Cellblock2429]

then why do you need a driver's license or passport to fly?

Because The State has stolen your right to freely travel and sold it back to you as a privilege.

/----/ You are free to travel. No one took that away, but there are requirements to use certain means of transportation. Perfectly reasonable.