Democratic Party is very smart

His mother is white. And no. Zero progress. BLM rose under Obama, the wealth gap was never closed, inner cities are still disasters, not one student proficient in math in Baltimore’s 13 high schools. Boyz N the Hood came out when I was 11. I am 40, and nothing has changed for the black community in LA. When African Americans do become affluent they move into white and or Jewish neighborhoods.

All of the above cannot be refuted.

Sure it can. Obama was half black... The wealth gap is going in the wrong direction because Republicans have been making war on the white working class. I'm sure there's at least one kid who is proficient in math in Baltmore's high schools. (Why do you deal in absolutes?)

Yes, when people become affluent, they move to better neighborhoods.. Wow. This is amazing.
 
His mother is white. And no. Zero progress. BLM rose under Obama, the wealth gap was never closed, inner cities are still disasters, not one student proficient in math in Baltimore’s 13 high schools. Boyz N the Hood came out when I was 11. I am 40, and nothing has changed for the black community in LA. When African Americans do become affluent they move into white and or Jewish neighborhoods.

All of the above cannot be refuted.

Sure it can. Obama was half black... The wealth gap is going in the wrong direction because Republicans have been making war on the white working class. I'm sure there's at least one kid who is proficient in math in Baltmore's high schools. (Why do you deal in absolutes?)

Yes, when people become affluent, they move to better neighborhoods.. Wow. This is amazing.
You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth. You say the country is systematically racist and then you throw out that hey we had a black President. Republicans have zero impact on inner city politics. In MA everyone is a Democrat from House of Representatives to Senators to the mayor and Dorchester and Roxbury remain difficult areas. Should we blame the Republicans there? I am so glad I caught you being a hypocrite.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
/——-/ “said Democracy is a fraud”
We say that because democracy is mob rule. We’re a Representative Republic.

"A representative Republic" is another word for "democracy". In 1776 the words republic and democracy, meant nearly the same things, as they do today.

Sadly, the anti-democratic checks and balances the Founders put in place to prevent the take-over of the nation by "mob" forces nearly failed because the undemocratic Senate sided and with the populist and refused to do their Constitutional duty and stop, or even limit his unconstitutional excesses.

When the American voters used their power decisively to remove the undemocratically elected President from office, he sent a literal mob to overthrow the government and stop the certification of that election.

.


The difference between a republic and a democracy is that in a republic, the people don't elect who represents them.

Party bosses do in back rooms without the input of those who are governed.

In a democracy, the people elect who represent them.

They aren't the same thing.

We are a combination of both. We have a representative government and it's elected by the people.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
Ya know...
2 Bush 41
8 Bush 43
4 His Cheetoness

= 14 years
16 is almost half of 30.

The mistruth affects your argument.
Clinton - Bush - Obama - Dumpster - 8 years of Biden

We've been under Democrats for a long time brah


Actually it's:

reagan, bush the first, Clinton, the bush boy, Obama, trump, now Biden.

All of the mess we have today started with reagan. Then made worse by each republican president after him. All four caused recession during their presidency. Each one of them causing the worst economic conditions since the last republican Great Depression.

In that time there were 4 republican presidents. Two of them served one term then the people of our nation kicked them out of office.

There have been 3 democratic presidents. Two of them served two terms leaving office with higher approval numbers than the presidents before them. As in Clinton left office with higher approval than the first bush. Obama left office with higher approval than the bush boy.

Biden has been president for just short of 3 months. It's very premature to say he's going to be there for 2 full terms. Time will answer that.

Since 1981, republicans have held the presidency for 24 years. Democrats have held the presidency for 16 years and almost 3 months.
Actually 41 was OK.
He attacked the deficit seriously.
Judiciously avoided invading Iraq.
Which is why republicans tossed him in 92. Too centrist. Too much governance. The crazy was already taking them.


I can't believe you don't remember that the first bush had our economy on the verge of collapse in 1992.

How can you forget the Clinton campaign slogan?

IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID.

James Carville is the person who came up with that slogan.

No the first bush didn't tackle the deficit. Unless you call increasing the deficit and debt tackling it.

reagan handed the the first bush a budget deficit he exploded to 153 billion in 1989.

The budget deficit bush the first handed to Bill Clinton in 1993 was 255 billion. He added over 100 billion to the budget deficit in 4 years. Which compared to what the bush boy and trump did was not as bad but it's not tackling the deficit.

reagan handed the first bush a national debt he exploded to over 2.8 trillion dollars.

The first bush handed Clinton a national debt he exploded to over 4.2 trillion dollars. The first bush nearly doubled the national debt in 4 short years.

Yes he didn't go into Iraq. But his gulf war was mostly based on lies. Then when it was over, he set up an agreement with conditions that nearly guaranteed that we would invade Iraq. If the first bush had been reelected I have very little doubt he would have had us in Iraq. He was after the oil. Just like his son.

The reason why republicans didn't vote for the first bush in 1992 was because he said in 1988 "read my lips, no new taxes." Then after his gulf war, he raised taxes. But turned around in 1992 to talk about lowering taxes. He couldn't lower taxes through the congress so in February of that year, he announced he was giving Americans a tax cut by lowering the amount of money that was deducted from their paycheck but didn't lower anyone's tax percentage obligations. So millions of Americans who didn't increase their deductions on their pay, ended up owing money in taxes because not enough was taken out throughout the year because the first bush wanted to scam Americans in the election.

The fact is that the first bush was just bad too. No not as bad as trump or the bush boy but he was a bad president which is why he lost in 1992.
Take the googles off.
There was a war. There was the aftermath of war, recession.

Bush raised taxes to attack the deficit. He tried which no other Republican since Ike has done.


Yes he raised taxes but you are incorrect about taxes.

nixon raised taxes on the rich. It was nixon who signed the Alternative Minimum Tax law. It also which also closed loopholes on salary and wages income taxes. Also closed loopholes in the capital gains taxes.

All on the rich.

reagan first lowered taxes but it crashed the economy so he raised taxes on the rich and poor. I was one of those poor at the time. I had just gotten out of college in the middle of his worst economy since the last republican Great Depression and there were no jobs so I had to take a job on an assembly line. I had never paid taxes before but reagan raised the poverty line so that those who actually were in poverty paid taxes. Then in I think it was 1986, Reagan raised my taxes again by "simplifying" taxes. Which was to remove just about every deduction I had. The only thing he left for a person who didn't own much and not a business was interest on a home and the standard deduction for a person. Every time reagan "lowered" taxes, my taxes in creased. Most of reagan's tax cuts were for the wealthy, not the poor or middle class.

No the first bush wasn't the first to raise taxes since Eisenhower.

Just because he raised taxes to pay for his war, doesn't mean he tacked the deficit and debt. The fact that it wasn't decreased shows that.

If there had been a decrease in the deficit yes I would have agreed with you but that didn't happen. The first bush increased the deficit and debt.

The only reason why the numbers for his presidency aren't as bad is because he was there for only 4 years. Yet in those four years he added a lot to the deficit and debt.

My education is in accounting/finance so I'm much harder on presidents in regard to economics than other people.

Especially since he was followed by a president who raised taxes, cut spending, balanced the budget, created billions in surplus, repaid the money reagan and the first bush stole from social security and left a plan to have the reagan/bush national debt paid by 2010. That is a president who took on the deficit and debt.

Too bad the bush boy came after and totally messed everything up. He had us back to deficit spending with his first budget, that's before 9-11 and his wars so I don't accept that it was those two situations that caused the totally out of control spending by the bush boy.
 
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Since I was born there has been zero progress but you are much older than me.

the election of a black man in 2008 isn't progress?
His mother is white. And no. Zero progress. BLM rose under Obama, the wealth gap was never closed, inner cities are still disasters, not one student proficient in math in Baltimore’s 13 high schools. Boyz N the Hood came out when I was 11. I am 40, and nothing has changed for the black community in LA. When African Americans do become affluent they move into white and or Jewish neighborhoods.

All of the above cannot be refuted.

When you post "all of the above cannot be refuted", you're an idiot because all of the above can be refuted. What do you know about the black community in LA, when you live in Boston? The two cities are as different as night and day.

When anyone becomes affluent they move out of the crap neighbourhoods and into areas with decent schools, housing and recreational facilities. But much has changed. There is a large and thriving black middle class - the children and grandchildren of affirmative action college admissions in the 60's and 70's and the success stories of Johnson's War on Poverty.

Black Poverty more than cut in half by Johnson's War on Poverty, and the rise in wealth and power by the new rising black middle class is the reason why Reagan couldn't wait to end the social programs and affirmative action programs which enabled it.

You decry the failure to close the wealth gap. That wealth gap was much, much smaller when you were born and is entirely the product of Republican tax policies which tilted the economic plate so that all wealth flows to the top 10%. Republicanism has all but eliminated social mobility for those born poor.

Today, 20% of black people live in poverty. That's a far cry from the more than 40% living in poverty when I was growing up, but evidence of the lack of ongoing racism and lack of opportunities for black citizens. That also means that 80% of black people aren't living in poverty and that's where the problem lies.

Working and middle class black people are sick and tired of being racially profiled, and killed simply because they're black. Black professionals are afraid to leave the house unless wearing office attire.

One man's wife said her "teddy bear" of a husband went to the local 7/11 to get milk one night and a white woman thought he looked "suspicious", called the police and then pulled a gun on the man until the cops arrived. When the police arrived, they immediately pulled their guns and things got very tense. If their neighbour - a white lawyer, had not happened along to the scene, it could easily have become another hashtag moment. The "suspicious looking" black man is a chartered accountant, husband and father, wearing a golf shirt.

Another black professional posted that Amazon had left a package on his front porch for the house two blocks over - by mistake. There is no telephone listing for these people. He would return this package to its rightful owner, but as a black man in a racially mixed neighbourhood, it isn't safe for him to go knock on his neighbour's door, and it certainly isn't safe to said one of his teenage sons to do it either. So the package will not get to its rightful owner.

Black Lives Matter exists because unarmed black men keep getting killed in their encounters with police no matter what they do. And because of cell phone cameras, and public media, the whole world now knows that has really been going on with policing in America.

And THAT has changed everything.
Your entire post is a lie. Are you ever not long winded and whiny?

Once again, you can't refute the post so you attack the poster. You have no ideas and no arguments, your whole approach is to scapegoat and denigrate a minority which is different from your own, and no more to blame for their overall economic situation in nation where there is systemic oppression of their economic growth.

You make your false accusations and your list of "anti-Semites", and then you call blacks socially inferior, and blame them for their situation. Talk about pot, kettle, black.

This current round of Jim Crow laws was entirely predictable after a black President. Blacks are getting entirely too powerful, and entirely too well educated and rich. They're demanding rights under the law, and their votes are determining the outcome of elections, so they must be stripped of their right to vote. It doesn't get more racist than that. And you're here arguing these racist tropes and lies every day.

My Jewish friends don't vote Republican because they see the echoes in the way Republicans treat black and brown people with the way anti-Semites in Europe treated the Jews before WWII, that allowed a man like Hitler to rise. Hitler killed the Jews, but every first world nation on earth aided and abetted those murders but refusing to allow Jews to LEAVE Germany, and refusing them asylum.

And unlike you, they know their history, and who is really on their side and it isn't the party of white supremacy and the KKK.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
/——-/ “said Democracy is a fraud”
We say that because democracy is mob rule. We’re a Representative Republic.

"A representative Republic" is another word for "democracy". In 1776 the words republic and democracy, meant nearly the same things, as they do today.

Sadly, the anti-democratic checks and balances the Founders put in place to prevent the take-over of the nation by "mob" forces nearly failed because the undemocratic Senate sided and with the populist and refused to do their Constitutional duty and stop, or even limit his unconstitutional excesses.

When the American voters used their power decisively to remove the undemocratically elected President from office, he sent a literal mob to overthrow the government and stop the certification of that election.

.


The difference between a republic and a democracy is that in a republic, the people don't elect who represents them.

Party bosses do in back rooms without the input of those who are governed.

In a democracy, the people elect who represent them.

They aren't the same thing.

We are a combination of both. We have a representative government and it's elected by the people.

That's completely misrepresentation false When government representatives are chosen by the party bosses and/or the elite, that's an "oligarchy", not a republic.

A Republic is defined by have elected representatives of the people. The difference between a republic and a democracy, is that republics limit who can vote. From the encyclopedia Britannica:

"Republic, form of government in which a state is ruled by representatives of the citizen body. Modern republics are founded on the idea that sovereignty rests with the people, though who is included and excluded from the category of the people has varied across history. "

In a Republic, voting rights are limited to certain classes of people. In 1776 only free men who were landholders could vote. Citizenship didn't define who could vote. Property ownership did. Over the years, the definition of who could vote in the USA, changed, so that now all of all races citizens over the age of 18, male or female, can vote.

Republicans are now trying to strip the poor and racial minorities of their right to vote, on the grounds that these people don't vote Republican. And Democrats are trying to ensure everyone's constitutional right to vote.
 
Since I was born there has been zero progress but you are much older than me.

the election of a black man in 2008 isn't progress?
His mother is white. And no. Zero progress. BLM rose under Obama, the wealth gap was never closed, inner cities are still disasters, not one student proficient in math in Baltimore’s 13 high schools. Boyz N the Hood came out when I was 11. I am 40, and nothing has changed for the black community in LA. When African Americans do become affluent they move into white and or Jewish neighborhoods.

All of the above cannot be refuted.

When you post "all of the above cannot be refuted", you're an idiot because all of the above can be refuted. What do you know about the black community in LA, when you live in Boston? The two cities are as different as night and day.

When anyone becomes affluent they move out of the crap neighbourhoods and into areas with decent schools, housing and recreational facilities. But much has changed. There is a large and thriving black middle class - the children and grandchildren of affirmative action college admissions in the 60's and 70's and the success stories of Johnson's War on Poverty.

Black Poverty more than cut in half by Johnson's War on Poverty, and the rise in wealth and power by the new rising black middle class is the reason why Reagan couldn't wait to end the social programs and affirmative action programs which enabled it.

You decry the failure to close the wealth gap. That wealth gap was much, much smaller when you were born and is entirely the product of Republican tax policies which tilted the economic plate so that all wealth flows to the top 10%. Republicanism has all but eliminated social mobility for those born poor.

Today, 20% of black people live in poverty. That's a far cry from the more than 40% living in poverty when I was growing up, but evidence of the lack of ongoing racism and lack of opportunities for black citizens. That also means that 80% of black people aren't living in poverty and that's where the problem lies.

Working and middle class black people are sick and tired of being racially profiled, and killed simply because they're black. Black professionals are afraid to leave the house unless wearing office attire.

One man's wife said her "teddy bear" of a husband went to the local 7/11 to get milk one night and a white woman thought he looked "suspicious", called the police and then pulled a gun on the man until the cops arrived. When the police arrived, they immediately pulled their guns and things got very tense. If their neighbour - a white lawyer, had not happened along to the scene, it could easily have become another hashtag moment. The "suspicious looking" black man is a chartered accountant, husband and father, wearing a golf shirt.

Another black professional posted that Amazon had left a package on his front porch for the house two blocks over - by mistake. There is no telephone listing for these people. He would return this package to its rightful owner, but as a black man in a racially mixed neighbourhood, it isn't safe for him to go knock on his neighbour's door, and it certainly isn't safe to said one of his teenage sons to do it either. So the package will not get to its rightful owner.

Black Lives Matter exists because unarmed black men keep getting killed in their encounters with police no matter what they do. And because of cell phone cameras, and public media, the whole world now knows that has really been going on with policing in America.

And THAT has changed everything.
Your entire post is a lie. Are you ever not long winded and whiny?

Once again, you can't refute the post so you attack the poster. You have no ideas and no arguments, your whole approach is to scapegoat and denigrate a minority which is different from your own, and no more to blame for their overall economic situation in nation where there is systemic oppression of their economic growth.

You make your false accusations and your list of "anti-Semites", and then you call blacks socially inferior, and blame them for their situation. Talk about pot, kettle, black.

This current round of Jim Crow laws was entirely predictable after a black President. Blacks are getting entirely too powerful, and entirely too well educated and rich. They're demanding rights under the law, and their votes are determining the outcome of elections, so they must be stripped of their right to vote. It doesn't get more racist than that. And you're here arguing these racist tropes and lies every day.

My Jewish friends don't vote Republican because they see the echoes in the way Republicans treat black and brown people with the way anti-Semites in Europe treated the Jews before WWII, that allowed a man like Hitler to rise. Hitler killed the Jews, but every first world nation on earth aided and abetted those murders but refusing to allow Jews to LEAVE Germany, and refusing them asylum.

And unlike you, they know their history, and who is really on their side and it isn't the party of white supremacy and the KKK.
What do you want to debate? You said Jews invented whining and then said I lied that you said that. You have zero credibility. Democrats hate Jews.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
/——-/ “said Democracy is a fraud”
We say that because democracy is mob rule. We’re a Representative Republic.

"A representative Republic" is another word for "democracy". In 1776 the words republic and democracy, meant nearly the same things, as they do today.

Sadly, the anti-democratic checks and balances the Founders put in place to prevent the take-over of the nation by "mob" forces nearly failed because the undemocratic Senate sided and with the populist and refused to do their Constitutional duty and stop, or even limit his unconstitutional excesses.

When the American voters used their power decisively to remove the undemocratically elected President from office, he sent a literal mob to overthrow the government and stop the certification of that election.

.


The difference between a republic and a democracy is that in a republic, the people don't elect who represents them.

Party bosses do in back rooms without the input of those who are governed.

In a democracy, the people elect who represent them.

They aren't the same thing.

We are a combination of both. We have a representative government and it's elected by the people.

That's completely misrepresentation false When government representatives are chosen by the party bosses and/or the elite, that's an "oligarchy", not a republic.

A Republic is defined by have elected representatives of the people. The difference between a republic and a democracy, is that republics limit who can vote. From the encyclopedia Britannica:

"Republic, form of government in which a state is ruled by representatives of the citizen body. Modern republics are founded on the idea that sovereignty rests with the people, though who is included and excluded from the category of the people has varied across history. "

In a Republic, voting rights are limited to certain classes of people. In 1776 only free men who were landholders could vote. Citizenship didn't define who could vote. Property ownership did. Over the years, the definition of who could vote in the USA, changed, so that now all of all races citizens over the age of 18, male or female, can vote.

Republicans are now trying to strip the poor and racial minorities of their right to vote, on the grounds that these people don't vote Republican. And Democrats are trying to ensure everyone's constitutional right to vote.
Why are you posts always so long winded? Be concise. Be relevant. You are from Canada, your post could not be more false.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
/——-/ “said Democracy is a fraud”
We say that because democracy is mob rule. We’re a Representative Republic.

"A representative Republic" is another word for "democracy". In 1776 the words republic and democracy, meant nearly the same things, as they do today.

Sadly, the anti-democratic checks and balances the Founders put in place to prevent the take-over of the nation by "mob" forces nearly failed because the undemocratic Senate sided and with the populist and refused to do their Constitutional duty and stop, or even limit his unconstitutional excesses.

When the American voters used their power decisively to remove the undemocratically elected President from office, he sent a literal mob to overthrow the government and stop the certification of that election.

.


The difference between a republic and a democracy is that in a republic, the people don't elect who represents them.

Party bosses do in back rooms without the input of those who are governed.

In a democracy, the people elect who represent them.

They aren't the same thing.

We are a combination of both. We have a representative government and it's elected by the people.
In a Democracy we are fed for the most part people that the back room bosses give to us. Only in primary races with more then a few candidates, they will position some against teach other with similar views to get the one they want. And there could be a couple the would be happy with. Repub voters have seen this over and over. We also vote for some who are known to be RINOS. We keep saying it is better then the other side. There are strong political regional families in many states. They stretch the rules to get their own candidates in and if corrupted enough get their family members in. Most House members are an automatic win from many areas. A Republic means that the politicians elected make the tough decisions. Then are voted out because of it. A Democracy means we will vote for people who are going to provide us with the goodies. And that is what we see. Republicans are put through the shredder because they are slower at it then Democrats who are now admitted Socialists.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
/——-/ “said Democracy is a fraud”
We say that because democracy is mob rule. We’re a Representative Republic.

"A representative Republic" is another word for "democracy". In 1776 the words republic and democracy, meant nearly the same things, as they do today.

Sadly, the anti-democratic checks and balances the Founders put in place to prevent the take-over of the nation by "mob" forces nearly failed because the undemocratic Senate sided and with the populist and refused to do their Constitutional duty and stop, or even limit his unconstitutional excesses.

When the American voters used their power decisively to remove the undemocratically elected President from office, he sent a literal mob to overthrow the government and stop the certification of that election.

.


The difference between a republic and a democracy is that in a republic, the people don't elect who represents them.

Party bosses do in back rooms without the input of those who are governed.

In a democracy, the people elect who represent them.

They aren't the same thing.

We are a combination of both. We have a representative government and it's elected by the people.

That's completely misrepresentation false When government representatives are chosen by the party bosses and/or the elite, that's an "oligarchy", not a republic.

A Republic is defined by have elected representatives of the people. The difference between a republic and a democracy, is that republics limit who can vote. From the encyclopedia Britannica:

"Republic, form of government in which a state is ruled by representatives of the citizen body. Modern republics are founded on the idea that sovereignty rests with the people, though who is included and excluded from the category of the people has varied across history. "

In a Republic, voting rights are limited to certain classes of people. In 1776 only free men who were landholders could vote. Citizenship didn't define who could vote. Property ownership did. Over the years, the definition of who could vote in the USA, changed, so that now all of all races citizens over the age of 18, male or female, can vote.

Republicans are now trying to strip the poor and racial minorities of their right to vote, on the grounds that these people don't vote Republican. And Democrats are trying to ensure everyone's constitutional right to vote.



That is the definition I was fed in school. Which apparently is incorrect.

It wasn't until 1913 that the people elected federal senators. Until then party bosses in back rooms did it.

Thank you for correcting me.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
/——-/ “said Democracy is a fraud”
We say that because democracy is mob rule. We’re a Representative Republic.

"A representative Republic" is another word for "democracy". In 1776 the words republic and democracy, meant nearly the same things, as they do today.

Sadly, the anti-democratic checks and balances the Founders put in place to prevent the take-over of the nation by "mob" forces nearly failed because the undemocratic Senate sided and with the populist and refused to do their Constitutional duty and stop, or even limit his unconstitutional excesses.

When the American voters used their power decisively to remove the undemocratically elected President from office, he sent a literal mob to overthrow the government and stop the certification of that election.

.


The difference between a republic and a democracy is that in a republic, the people don't elect who represents them.

Party bosses do in back rooms without the input of those who are governed.

In a democracy, the people elect who represent them.

They aren't the same thing.

We are a combination of both. We have a representative government and it's elected by the people.

That's completely misrepresentation false When government representatives are chosen by the party bosses and/or the elite, that's an "oligarchy", not a republic.

A Republic is defined by have elected representatives of the people. The difference between a republic and a democracy, is that republics limit who can vote. From the encyclopedia Britannica:

"Republic, form of government in which a state is ruled by representatives of the citizen body. Modern republics are founded on the idea that sovereignty rests with the people, though who is included and excluded from the category of the people has varied across history. "

In a Republic, voting rights are limited to certain classes of people. In 1776 only free men who were landholders could vote. Citizenship didn't define who could vote. Property ownership did. Over the years, the definition of who could vote in the USA, changed, so that now all of all races citizens over the age of 18, male or female, can vote.

Republicans are now trying to strip the poor and racial minorities of their right to vote, on the grounds that these people don't vote Republican. And Democrats are trying to ensure everyone's constitutional right to vote.



That is the definition I was fed in school. Which apparently is incorrect.

It wasn't until 1913 that the people elected federal senators. Until then party bosses in back rooms did it.

Thank you for correcting me.
You started school in 1914?
 
His mother is white. And no. Zero progress. BLM rose under Obama, the wealth gap was never closed, inner cities are still disasters, not one student proficient in math in Baltimore’s 13 high schools. Boyz N the Hood came out when I was 11. I am 40, and nothing has changed for the black community in LA. When African Americans do become affluent they move into white and or Jewish neighborhoods.

All of the above cannot be refuted.

Sure it can. Obama was half black... The wealth gap is going in the wrong direction because Republicans have been making war on the white working class. I'm sure there's at least one kid who is proficient in math in Baltmore's high schools. (Why do you deal in absolutes?)

Yes, when people become affluent, they move to better neighborhoods.. Wow. This is amazing.
BTW it wasn’t an exaggeration. Not one kid proficient in math. When it’s reality it’s not dealing in absolutes. So funny. You tried to shove that saying into my face but you just look stupid yet again. Are you ever going to win a debate against me? Ever?!

 
The Jim Crow party knows how to manipulate the residents on their plantation. Claiming a person is a racist doesn’t mean a person is a racist, their actions and words do. A racist is not always white, black, brown, yellow, red, or tan, it assumes many shapes and forms.
 
By pandering to the African American community by painting the GOP as racist the Democrats garner approximately 90% of the black vote. There are ~42 mil African Americans in the US. If say 30mil vote and 90% or 27 mil vote Democrat then the party has a huge advantage. Biden garnered ~7mil more votes than Trump but if Biden didn’t have such an overwhelming support from the African Americans community then the GOP candidate clearly wins. If the support goes from 90% to 75% then the GOP candidate wins.

Question for the GOP is how to garner those votes when the News Entertainment biased media perpetuates the racist narrative. Even Biden stated “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black”. As the Democrats continue the mantra that the GOP is racist and give the African American voters scraps they continue to have their blind loyalty. Of course this works because if African Americans become successful and see how the Democrats rip off the middle class they can turn and vote GOP as only 10% currently do. But hopefully many open their eyes. But so far the Leftist strategy has worked very well. Kudos.


Thank you

So wait, wait, wait, let me get this straight.

The Democratic party has
-held the Presidency for almost the last 30 years, except Bush and Dumbfuck McGee for 4 years
- Just won the election

Whereas the Republican party has
- said Democracy is a fraud and "dead zombies voted"
- their politicians flying down to Florida to kiss the ring of a demented fatass blob

And you're going to come here and make a topic sarcastically saying the Democratic party are the "smart ones". No, dude, you're the smart ones.
/——-/ “said Democracy is a fraud”
We say that because democracy is mob rule. We’re a Representative Republic.

"A representative Republic" is another word for "democracy". In 1776 the words republic and democracy, meant nearly the same things, as they do today.

Sadly, the anti-democratic checks and balances the Founders put in place to prevent the take-over of the nation by "mob" forces nearly failed because the undemocratic Senate sided and with the populist and refused to do their Constitutional duty and stop, or even limit his unconstitutional excesses.

When the American voters used their power decisively to remove the undemocratically elected President from office, he sent a literal mob to overthrow the government and stop the certification of that election.

.
When you see right wing Republicans saying "We're a Republic not a Democracy" what they are really doing is excusing Minority Rule (white Republican minority)

The Founding Fathers were always in favor of majority rule and warned AGAINST that kind of minority rule
 
I find your statement racist. All jokes aside. You're saying white people are smarter and understand voting law and how to garner an ID better than black people. That is at best disgusting.
You fucking asshole. i was agreeing with YOU...and noting that the current crop of Republicans (Georgia and Texas for example) do as well...which is why they are trying to LIMIT the black vote
 
I find your statement racist. All jokes aside. You're saying white people are smarter and understand voting law and how to garner an ID better than black people. That is at best disgusting.
You fucking asshole. i was agreeing with YOU...and noting that the current crop of Republicans (Georgia and Texas for example) do as well...which is why they are trying to LIMIT the black vote
They aren’t trying to limit anything. You’re disgusting.
 
I find your statement racist. All jokes aside. You're saying white people are smarter and understand voting law and how to garner an ID better than black people. That is at best disgusting.
You fucking asshole. i was agreeing with YOU...and noting that the current crop of Republicans (Georgia and Texas for example) do as well...which is why they are trying to LIMIT the black vote
They aren’t trying to limit anything. You’re disgusting.
ShortBus, Georgia's laws are absolutely designed to limit registered voters' ability to vote.
 
Since I was born there has been zero progress but you are much older than me.

the election of a black man in 2008 isn't progress?
His mother is white. And no. Zero progress. BLM rose under Obama, the wealth gap was never closed, inner cities are still disasters, not one student proficient in math in Baltimore’s 13 high schools. Boyz N the Hood came out when I was 11. I am 40, and nothing has changed for the black community in LA. When African Americans do become affluent they move into white and or Jewish neighborhoods.

All of the above cannot be refuted.

When you post "all of the above cannot be refuted", you're an idiot because all of the above can be refuted. What do you know about the black community in LA, when you live in Boston? The two cities are as different as night and day.

When anyone becomes affluent they move out of the crap neighbourhoods and into areas with decent schools, housing and recreational facilities. But much has changed. There is a large and thriving black middle class - the children and grandchildren of affirmative action college admissions in the 60's and 70's and the success stories of Johnson's War on Poverty.

Black Poverty more than cut in half by Johnson's War on Poverty, and the rise in wealth and power by the new rising black middle class is the reason why Reagan couldn't wait to end the social programs and affirmative action programs which enabled it.

You decry the failure to close the wealth gap. That wealth gap was much, much smaller when you were born and is entirely the product of Republican tax policies which tilted the economic plate so that all wealth flows to the top 10%. Republicanism has all but eliminated social mobility for those born poor.

Today, 20% of black people live in poverty. That's a far cry from the more than 40% living in poverty when I was growing up, but evidence of the lack of ongoing racism and lack of opportunities for black citizens. That also means that 80% of black people aren't living in poverty and that's where the problem lies.

Working and middle class black people are sick and tired of being racially profiled, and killed simply because they're black. Black professionals are afraid to leave the house unless wearing office attire.

One man's wife said her "teddy bear" of a husband went to the local 7/11 to get milk one night and a white woman thought he looked "suspicious", called the police and then pulled a gun on the man until the cops arrived. When the police arrived, they immediately pulled their guns and things got very tense. If their neighbour - a white lawyer, had not happened along to the scene, it could easily have become another hashtag moment. The "suspicious looking" black man is a chartered accountant, husband and father, wearing a golf shirt.

Another black professional posted that Amazon had left a package on his front porch for the house two blocks over - by mistake. There is no telephone listing for these people. He would return this package to its rightful owner, but as a black man in a racially mixed neighbourhood, it isn't safe for him to go knock on his neighbour's door, and it certainly isn't safe to said one of his teenage sons to do it either. So the package will not get to its rightful owner.

Black Lives Matter exists because unarmed black men keep getting killed in their encounters with police no matter what they do. And because of cell phone cameras, and public media, the whole world now knows that has really been going on with policing in America.

And THAT has changed everything.
Also provide some links. 40% lived in poverty in 1980? LOL

I'm 71. I grew up in the 1950's and 1960's. By 1980, I had finished school, been married and divorced, had two school aged children, and was picking up the pieces of my life after my second house was destroyed in a F4 tornado in 1979.
 

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