Democrats and the Abortion Issue

[Zincwarrior]

why are you changing the subject,,

I am not. You're just wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

zygot is a stage of development not a separate type of animal,,

and we arent talking about them are we??

Well, you are if you are saying life begins at conception.

only if you think a heart attack is considered murder,,

death by natural causes,,

Heart attacks are investigated. They usually have an autopsy.

 

[progressive hunter]

Zygotes aren't children
Embryos are not children
Fetuses are not children.

zygot is a stage of development,,

embryos are the same

and as science states backed up by the dictionary a fetus is the offspring of a mammal/human being still in the womb,, and as we all know offspring is just another word for child,,

dont take my word for it, just look it up yourself,,

 

[progressive hunter]

I am not. You're just wrong.

if I was you would explain how and why I am wrong,, but as usual you dont

 

[JoeB131]

zygot is a stage of development,,

embryos are the same

and as science states backed up by the dictionary a fetus is the offspring of a mammal/human being still in the womb,, and as we all know offspring is just another word for child,,

dont take my word for it, just look it up yourself,,

Good thing we don't live by dictionary definitions.

We live in a real world where a woman has a right to choose.

 

[progressive hunter]

Well, you are if you are saying life begins at conception.



Heart attacks are investigated. They usually have an autopsy.

yes a zygot is a stage of development of a human being,,


I dint understand your heart attack thing,,

they investigate all unattended deaths,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Good thing we don't live by dictionary definitions.

We live in a real world where a woman has a right to choose.

actually we do live by dictionary definitions,,

you just want to ignore them because it shows you to be the monster you really are,,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

If you are Catholic, no one is innocent. Original sin baby.


But its a life. Death by natural causes is after certification of such by medical professionals.

OK,, not seeing a point here,,

 

[Zincwarrior]

if I was you would explain how and why I am wrong,, but as usual you dont

You side life is not subject to a vote, but it clearly is. Juries vote.

Now how do you square the circle of the voting Americans who agree that life may "begin" at conception and may even be personally against abortion, but still don't want the government controlling women's bodies?

 

[progressive hunter]

You side life is not subject to a vote, but it clearly is. Juries vote.

Now how do you square the circle of the voting Americans who agree that life may "begin" at conception and may even be personally against abortion, but still don't want the government controlling women's bodies?

how does denying abortion control a womens body??
shes already pregnant,,


it stops her from controlling/killing another persons body,,

 

[Zincwarrior]

OK,, not seeing a point here,,

Under this structure all miscarriages must now be investigated as with any death as to the cause of death.

Can a woman be guilty of manslaughter? What if she smokes or takes drugs during the pregnancy? What if she doesn't go to the obstetrician during the pregnancy?

If she is a car wreck and the loses the baby, can the other party now be charged with murder?

 

[JoeB131]

yes a zygot is a stage of development of a human being,,


I dint understand your heart attack thing,,

they investigate all unattended deaths,,

So, once you have declared Globby to be a Real Boy, then his death by miscarriage would HAVE to be investigated.

 

[Robert W]

Not really.

Hey, I get you guys feel strongly about Globby, but it's just not your say.



It's really not, but I'll keep asking the question... If we made your belief law, how would you enforce it?

The Philippines have the kinds of crazy laws you want. Yet Filipina women have 500K to 800K abortions a year. (More per capita than the US).

Even you got the crazy laws you wanted, police won't bother to investigate, prosecutors won't bother to indict, and juries won't convict.

If I ever found myself on an abortion case, I wouldn't care if you had video of the abortion provider throwing Globby across the room and yelling "THREE POINTS!" when it hits the medical waste container. I'll vote to acquit. So will about half the country.

some countries already approve killing adult humans who committed no crimes. Some have argued to kill children up to the age of 6 by the parents consent. You are insensitive to human life. So it is fine with you to slaugter it.

So you are against the death penalty?

Is the One executed innocent. I am against executing the innocent. And this explains my failure to support killing the child in her body.

 

[progressive hunter]

Under this structure all miscarriages must now be investigated as with any death as to the cause of death.

Can a woman be guilty of manslaughter? What if she smokes or takes drugs during the pregnancy? What if she doesn't go to the obstetrician during the pregnancy?

If she is a car wreck and the loses the baby, can the other party now be charged with murder?

your semantics are killing me,,

if you admit to the proven scientific fact that you know abortion is the intentional killing of a human being we can play your stupid word games,,

in many states its already the case that if you cause the death of a pregnant women and her child dies too you are charged with two deaths,, in fact the mother can live and if the child dies you are still charged with its death,,

 

[progressive hunter]

So, once you have declared Globby to be a Real Boy, then his death by miscarriage would HAVE to be investigated.

what did the doctor say??

did you know cops ask doctors if theres an underlying cause for the death an investigation is not done??
thats what happened when my dad died,,

 

[Zincwarrior]

how does denying abortion control a womens body??
shes already pregnant,,

Yes, that means she has to stay pregnant and go through childbirth. If you disagree thats controlling a woman, ask one.

it stops her from controlling/killing another persons body,,

Hers.

 

[progressive hunter]

Yes, that means she has to stay pregnant and go through childbirth. If you disagree thats controlling a woman, ask one.


Hers.

so she just lives her life like she would have,,

not seeing the problem let alone how its controlling a womens body

 

[Robert W]

Good thing we don't live by dictionary definitions.

We live in a real world where a woman has a right to choose.

Have you ever read Black's law dictionary?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Is the One executed innocent. I am against executing the innocent. And this explains my failure to support killing the child in her body.

Thats consistent. But its still taking a life via vote.

your semantics are killing me,,

Then don't post on a discussion board.

if you admit to the proven scientific fact that you know abortion is the intentional killing of a human being we can play your stupid word games,,

Others disagree, but I agree with the above statement to the extent that, an abortion is removal of a human being from their life support.

in many states its already the case that if you cause the death of a pregnant women and her child dies too you are charged with two deaths,, in fact the mother can live and if the child dies you are still charged with its death,,

This is fair.

 

[Zincwarrior]

so she just lives her life like she would have,,

Its a life changing situation, and permanently impacts the woman, forever.

not seeing the problem let alone how its controlling a womens body

Of course you don't. you're not subject to the control.