Democrats caused recession in 2007

[IcebergSlim]

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To which "price" are you referring? If you rely on McDonald's for that bit of information, the price of a Big Mac has risen roughly in line with inflation at 1.6%......

Did you figure out how to use a TVM calculator?

Again, what does "TVM" have to do with it? Big Mac components are bought and sold in relatively narrow time. What does the Time Value of Money have to do with a build and sell transaction? Does this even make sense to you? TVM is used when you are for example making an investment now that will pay off years down the line. It has nothing to do with buying beef and lettuce and tomatoes and selling them now

You're not in the habit of calculating compound growth rates, are you?

Did you get through your MBA relying on chisanbop?

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

Actually, Big Macs in 2015 were 5.11 dollars...have your mommy help you read the graph....

Your graph, or McDonald's menu.....

Tough call......

 

[owebo]

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Again, what does "TVM" have to do with it? Big Mac components are bought and sold in relatively narrow time. What does the Time Value of Money have to do with a build and sell transaction? Does this even make sense to you? TVM is used when you are for example making an investment now that will pay off years down the line. It has nothing to do with buying beef and lettuce and tomatoes and selling them now

You're not in the habit of calculating compound growth rates, are you?

Did you get through your MBA relying on chisanbop?

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

Actually, Big Macs in 2015 were 5.11 dollars...have your mommy help you read the graph....

Your graph, or McDonald's menu.....

Tough call......

The price of Big Macs...it was 5.11 dollars, in 2015....,

Which part are you having trouble with child?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Really?

What if the price of beef spikes due to an outbreak of Hoof&Mouth?

What if labor markets tighten and burger flippers and fryer tenders become relatively scarce?

Wasn't there an example recently of a precipitous rise in the price of tomatoes?

This MBA of yours, did it involve any distribution requirements?

That could explain the big mac if the price of the big mac went up but the CPI didn't.

You know, that chart seems to have a tongue in cheek factor too

So there ARE reasons why the price of a Big Mac might go up having NOTHING to do with government... The same applies to any "good"

Congratulations, you have a firm grasp of the obvious and you have validated a point not in contention

Take that up with the flaming cornhole who posted THIS

There is no reason the price of a Big Mac should rise at all other than government stealing from the people. Inflation is pure government theft.


Wait......that was YOU........

This is awkward....

Actually that is a cut out of context. I stated that assumes that a Big Mac is a Big Mac. You brought in other factors and I said sure, those could change the price.

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy.

You like mixing up discussions. Either that or you just don't understand them. You tell me

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy

Seeing your readiness to double up on Stupid, I invite you to go All In by offering an explanation as to how " government policy" did so...

 

[kaz]

Again, what does "TVM" have to do with it? Big Mac components are bought and sold in relatively narrow time. What does the Time Value of Money have to do with a build and sell transaction? Does this even make sense to you? TVM is used when you are for example making an investment now that will pay off years down the line. It has nothing to do with buying beef and lettuce and tomatoes and selling them now

You're not in the habit of calculating compound growth rates, are you?

Did you get through your MBA relying on chisanbop?

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

I'm an expert in management, I'm a career manager and management consultant. I also bought five businesses and spun them back off after fixing their management and processes with my own money. I sold the last one June 1. I've been on vacation the last couple months.

And you don't know what you are talking about, that's not what the time value of money means.

The time value of money is how you measure an investment you are making say today that isn't going to pay off for years from now. You get paid back in lower value dollars, that's what a TVM calculator calculates. A TVM calculator has nothing to do with buying ingredients then selling them as you make and sell burgers.

BTW, when you talk about TVM, you're actually after an NPV or IRR calculation, that's a step in the process.

I'm curious what you think you're getting out of throwing terms you clearly don't understand out to people who do and making yourself a joke. What is the end game for that?

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction

 

[kaz]

Only direct labor. There is a lot more labor at McDonald's than direct labor

There's SG&A......but, in the real world, that is not categorized as "labor"....

What is considered direct labor unlike underemployed is not universally clear. It really depends what you are trying to measure. In this case, for example:

Burger flippers and cashiers? Clearly yes, COGS

McDonald's IT function? SG&A

What about drivers who deliver supplies? What about restaurant managers?: It completely depends on who is measuring what. There are endless ways to measure profitability and what you consider direct labor can change every time

Please stop......you have no idea what you are going on about...

Yes I do

Then you might consider demonstrating it.....this Dimwit act of yours is growing tiresome...

No it's not

 

[IcebergSlim]

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You're not in the habit of calculating compound growth rates, are you?

Did you get through your MBA relying on chisanbop?

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

Actually, Big Macs in 2015 were 5.11 dollars...have your mommy help you read the graph....

Your graph, or McDonald's menu.....

Tough call......

The price of Big Macs...it was 5.11 dollars, in 2015....,

Which part are you having trouble with child?

I can't reconcile your assertion with what McDonald's says about the current price of the item...to me, this is a serious matter.......

 

[kaz]

Underemployment is a simple concept that is basic to economics and easily Googled. There is no reason I need to explain it to you. That said, I'll give you a short explanation. From there, Google will educate you.

It's when workers who are earning less than they reasonably should because of reasons such as:

1) They want full time or more hours than they can get. For example, workers who are limited to under 30 hours by employers so they don't have to pay for Obamacare

2) They have education/skills/training they are not utilizing because of limited job opportunities. For example, a lawyer who is working at a bank as a cashier because they can't find a job as a lawyer.

I don't understand the aversion you people have to looking things up yourself

For the love of Baal, please stop!

Do you know where to locate the data for "Employed Part Time, for Economic Reasons"?

If so, please post the numbers for March 2010 and June, 2016...

Just the numbers.....we'll apply the Ordinal Property thingy...

I'm not arguing the definition of economic terms with you. Have your "yes it is/no it isn't" argument with Google

You could have just stipulated to having no idea...

I'm using the categories as defined by BLS.......seriously, you're a 47 ply fraud....

Actually I already explained what underemployed means. I just said from there I'm not engaging in your yes it is/no it isn't argument style for the definition of basic economic terms.

No long term memory though, huh? Too many drugs, Slim?

I don't give a flying fuck about how YOU define things.....I've seen enough to measure the value of it...

This was your comment..

1) They want full time or more hours than they can get. For example, workers who are limited to under 30 hours by employers so they don't have to pay for Obamacare

BLS has a category which measures this......if you want to discuss the state of labor markets, you'd be well served by going to their site and learning about the methods and definitions they employ......bluffing your way through it might impress a leaking douchebag like O, but when you run that game on me, it only brings the pain.

Yes you do

 

[kaz]

That could explain the big mac if the price of the big mac went up but the CPI didn't.

You know, that chart seems to have a tongue in cheek factor too

So there ARE reasons why the price of a Big Mac might go up having NOTHING to do with government... The same applies to any "good"

Congratulations, you have a firm grasp of the obvious and you have validated a point not in contention

Take that up with the flaming cornhole who posted THIS

There is no reason the price of a Big Mac should rise at all other than government stealing from the people. Inflation is pure government theft.


Wait......that was YOU........

This is awkward....

Actually that is a cut out of context. I stated that assumes that a Big Mac is a Big Mac. You brought in other factors and I said sure, those could change the price.

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy.

You like mixing up discussions. Either that or you just don't understand them. You tell me

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy

Seeing your readiness to double up on Stupid, I invite you to go All In by offering an explanation as to how " government policy" did so...

If we had the gold standard, CPI prices would not go up. Government devalues the currency by printing money. It's a regressive tax on the poor, you should oppose that. But the reality is you don't give a shit about the poor, you just love government

 

[IcebergSlim]

You're not in the habit of calculating compound growth rates, are you?

Did you get through your MBA relying on chisanbop?

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

I'm an expert in management, I'm a career manager and management consultant. I also bought five businesses and spun them back off after fixing their management and processes with my own money. I sold the last one June 1. I've been on vacation the last couple months.

And you don't know what you are talking about, that's not what the time value of money means.

The time value of money is how you measure an investment you are making say today that isn't going to pay off for years from now. You get paid back in lower value dollars, that's what a TVM calculator calculates. A TVM calculator has nothing to do with buying ingredients then selling them as you make and sell burgers.

BTW, when you talk about TVM, you're actually after an NPV or IRR calculation, that's a step in the process.

I'm curious what you think you're getting out of throwing terms you clearly don't understand out to people who do and making yourself a joke. What is the end game for that?

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction[/COLOR]

Before you commit to the idea of waking up tomorrow every bit as stupid as you are today, why don't you post the formula for calculating a CPI deflator....

 

[IcebergSlim]

So there ARE reasons why the price of a Big Mac might go up having NOTHING to do with government... The same applies to any "good"

Congratulations, you have a firm grasp of the obvious and you have validated a point not in contention

Take that up with the flaming cornhole who posted THIS

There is no reason the price of a Big Mac should rise at all other than government stealing from the people. Inflation is pure government theft.


Wait......that was YOU........

This is awkward....

Actually that is a cut out of context. I stated that assumes that a Big Mac is a Big Mac. You brought in other factors and I said sure, those could change the price.

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy.

You like mixing up discussions. Either that or you just don't understand them. You tell me

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy

Seeing your readiness to double up on Stupid, I invite you to go All In by offering an explanation as to how " government policy" did so...

If we had the gold standard, CPI prices would not go up. Government devalues the currency by printing money. It's a regressive tax on the poor, you should oppose that. But the reality is you don't give a shit about the poor, you just love government

Who graduates from an accredited MBA program believing in the Flat Tax and Gold Standard fairies?

Do yourself a favor......never mention these fetishes to anyone with whom you may be negotiating..... They'll strip you bare and have you hauled away in a net.

 

[kaz]

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

I'm an expert in management, I'm a career manager and management consultant. I also bought five businesses and spun them back off after fixing their management and processes with my own money. I sold the last one June 1. I've been on vacation the last couple months.

And you don't know what you are talking about, that's not what the time value of money means.

The time value of money is how you measure an investment you are making say today that isn't going to pay off for years from now. You get paid back in lower value dollars, that's what a TVM calculator calculates. A TVM calculator has nothing to do with buying ingredients then selling them as you make and sell burgers.

BTW, when you talk about TVM, you're actually after an NPV or IRR calculation, that's a step in the process.

I'm curious what you think you're getting out of throwing terms you clearly don't understand out to people who do and making yourself a joke. What is the end game for that?

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction[/COLOR]

Before you commit to the idea of waking up tomorrow every bit as stupid as you are today, why don't you post the formula for calculating a CPI deflator....

If you knew what the terms you keep throwing out mean, you'd know I know what I'm talking about. That I know what I'm talking about is how I know you don't. Though I've also repeatedly demonstrated that in the discussion, like pointing out you keep using terms for long term investments when the discussion is buying supplies now and selling them now.

As for your CPI deflator question, that's begging the question

 

[owebo]

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Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

Actually, Big Macs in 2015 were 5.11 dollars...have your mommy help you read the graph....

Your graph, or McDonald's menu.....

Tough call......

The price of Big Macs...it was 5.11 dollars, in 2015....,

Which part are you having trouble with child?

I can't reconcile your assertion with what McDonald's says about the current price of the item...to me, this is a serious matter.......

OK....you really must be as fucking stupid as you are making yourself out to be....
Find the blue line on the above graph, follow it alllll the way to the right, you will notice going up as the cost increases....the dollar value at that end of the blue line is the cost of Big Macs in 2015....

What is that number??

 

[kaz]

Congratulations, you have a firm grasp of the obvious and you have validated a point not in contention

Take that up with the flaming cornhole who posted THIS

There is no reason the price of a Big Mac should rise at all other than government stealing from the people. Inflation is pure government theft.


Wait......that was YOU........

This is awkward....

Actually that is a cut out of context. I stated that assumes that a Big Mac is a Big Mac. You brought in other factors and I said sure, those could change the price.

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy.

You like mixing up discussions. Either that or you just don't understand them. You tell me

But as for the chart, the CPI went up, that was because of government policy

Seeing your readiness to double up on Stupid, I invite you to go All In by offering an explanation as to how " government policy" did so...

If we had the gold standard, CPI prices would not go up. Government devalues the currency by printing money. It's a regressive tax on the poor, you should oppose that. But the reality is you don't give a shit about the poor, you just love government

Who graduates from an accredited MBA program believing in the Flat Tax and Gold Standard fairies?

Do yourself a favor......never mention these fetishes to anyone with whom you may be negotiating..... They'll strip you bare and have you hauled away in a net.

People who paid attention

 

[IcebergSlim]

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

I'm an expert in management, I'm a career manager and management consultant. I also bought five businesses and spun them back off after fixing their management and processes with my own money. I sold the last one June 1. I've been on vacation the last couple months.

And you don't know what you are talking about, that's not what the time value of money means.

The time value of money is how you measure an investment you are making say today that isn't going to pay off for years from now. You get paid back in lower value dollars, that's what a TVM calculator calculates. A TVM calculator has nothing to do with buying ingredients then selling them as you make and sell burgers.

BTW, when you talk about TVM, you're actually after an NPV or IRR calculation, that's a step in the process.

I'm curious what you think you're getting out of throwing terms you clearly don't understand out to people who do and making yourself a joke. What is the end game for that?

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction[/COLOR]

Before you commit to the idea of waking up tomorrow every bit as stupid as you are today, why don't you post the formula for calculating a CPI deflator....

If you knew what the terms you keep throwing out mean, you'd know I know what I'm talking about. That I know what I'm talking about is how I know you don't. Though I've also repeatedly demonstrated that in the discussion, like pointing out you keep using terms for long term investments when the discussion is buying supplies now and selling them now.

As for your CPI deflator question, that's begging the question

Please stop bluffing and post the formula.......

 

[IcebergSlim]

View attachment 84181

View attachment 84178

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

Actually, Big Macs in 2015 were 5.11 dollars...have your mommy help you read the graph....

Your graph, or McDonald's menu.....

Tough call......

The price of Big Macs...it was 5.11 dollars, in 2015....,

Which part are you having trouble with child?

I can't reconcile your assertion with what McDonald's says about the current price of the item...to me, this is a serious matter.......

OK....you really must be as fucking stupid as you are making yourself out to be....
Find the blue line on the above graph, follow it alllll the way to the right, you will notice going up as the cost increases....the dollar value at that end of the blue line is the cost of Big Macs in 2015....

What is that number??

If in conflict with that provided by McDonald's - meaningless....

 

[owebo]

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View attachment 84178 Actually, Big Macs in 2015 were 5.11 dollars...have your mommy help you read the graph....

Your graph, or McDonald's menu.....

Tough call......

The price of Big Macs...it was 5.11 dollars, in 2015....,

Which part are you having trouble with child?

I can't reconcile your assertion with what McDonald's says about the current price of the item...to me, this is a serious matter.......

OK....you really must be as fucking stupid as you are making yourself out to be....
Find the blue line on the above graph, follow it alllll the way to the right, you will notice going up as the cost increases....the dollar value at that end of the blue line is the cost of Big Macs in 2015....

What is that number??

If in conflict with that provided by McDonald's - meaningless....

Does someone else make Big Macs?

What's the number?????? You can do it...try...

 

[kaz]

I'm an expert in management, I'm a career manager and management consultant. I also bought five businesses and spun them back off after fixing their management and processes with my own money. I sold the last one June 1. I've been on vacation the last couple months.

And you don't know what you are talking about, that's not what the time value of money means.

The time value of money is how you measure an investment you are making say today that isn't going to pay off for years from now. You get paid back in lower value dollars, that's what a TVM calculator calculates. A TVM calculator has nothing to do with buying ingredients then selling them as you make and sell burgers.

BTW, when you talk about TVM, you're actually after an NPV or IRR calculation, that's a step in the process.

I'm curious what you think you're getting out of throwing terms you clearly don't understand out to people who do and making yourself a joke. What is the end game for that?

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction[/COLOR]

Before you commit to the idea of waking up tomorrow every bit as stupid as you are today, why don't you post the formula for calculating a CPI deflator....

If you knew what the terms you keep throwing out mean, you'd know I know what I'm talking about. That I know what I'm talking about is how I know you don't. Though I've also repeatedly demonstrated that in the discussion, like pointing out you keep using terms for long term investments when the discussion is buying supplies now and selling them now.

As for your CPI deflator question, that's begging the question

Please stop bluffing and post the formula.......

I already did

 

[IcebergSlim]

You're not in the habit of calculating compound growth rates, are you?

Did you get through your MBA relying on chisanbop?

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

I'm an expert in management, I'm a career manager and management consultant. I also bought five businesses and spun them back off after fixing their management and processes with my own money. I sold the last one June 1. I've been on vacation the last couple months.

And you don't know what you are talking about, that's not what the time value of money means.

The time value of money is how you measure an investment you are making say today that isn't going to pay off for years from now. You get paid back in lower value dollars, that's what a TVM calculator calculates. A TVM calculator has nothing to do with buying ingredients then selling them as you make and sell burgers.

BTW, when you talk about TVM, you're actually after an NPV or IRR calculation, that's a step in the process.

I'm curious what you think you're getting out of throwing terms you clearly don't understand out to people who do and making yourself a joke. What is the end game for that?

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction

Uh.....does inflation NOT "compound over time" in your universe?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction[/COLOR]

Before you commit to the idea of waking up tomorrow every bit as stupid as you are today, why don't you post the formula for calculating a CPI deflator....

If you knew what the terms you keep throwing out mean, you'd know I know what I'm talking about. That I know what I'm talking about is how I know you don't. Though I've also repeatedly demonstrated that in the discussion, like pointing out you keep using terms for long term investments when the discussion is buying supplies now and selling them now.

As for your CPI deflator question, that's begging the question

Please stop bluffing and post the formula.......

I already did

Link me to the post where you did so..

 

[kaz]

Begging the question.

Explain what buying ingredients, putting them together and selling them has to do with "compound growth rates?" Compounding what? Growth over what period?

You keep talking again about measuring long term investments. OK, but I'll play your game. When you said "TVM calculator," in Big Macs:

- What is the initial investment you are referring to?

- What discount rate are you going to use, and why?

- What is the investment term?

BTW, I don't use a "TVM calculator," I just program it into spreadsheets. The math is simple. What you don't know is what you are talking about. You're not even using the right terms for the discussion

I have no idea what you do for a living, but I'm quite sure what you don't....

Now pay attention and you won't wake up tomorrow nearly as fucking stupid as you are today....

Example....

The price of a Big Mac in 2009 is $3.57

The price of a Big Mac in 2016 is $3.99

Assuming that the increase is due entirely to inflation, derive the CPI deflator for the period...

TVM calculator

Set PV to 3.57
Set FV to 3.99
Set N to 7

Solve for I......

This is literally the first part of any finance curriculum.... At least at accredited institutions....

You are so out of your depth it's comical.

I'm an expert in management, I'm a career manager and management consultant. I also bought five businesses and spun them back off after fixing their management and processes with my own money. I sold the last one June 1. I've been on vacation the last couple months.

And you don't know what you are talking about, that's not what the time value of money means.

The time value of money is how you measure an investment you are making say today that isn't going to pay off for years from now. You get paid back in lower value dollars, that's what a TVM calculator calculates. A TVM calculator has nothing to do with buying ingredients then selling them as you make and sell burgers.

BTW, when you talk about TVM, you're actually after an NPV or IRR calculation, that's a step in the process.

I'm curious what you think you're getting out of throwing terms you clearly don't understand out to people who do and making yourself a joke. What is the end game for that?

Uh.....why are you persisting in your self debasement?


Think of inflation as a CAGR......which, of course, it is...it is NOT an NPV calculation (which is expressed as an amount) nor is it an IRR problem....

What you are yammering about is "real return" which requires netting your nominal return for inflation.....

Financial calculators are very useful things if you have some idea what you are doing..

I can appreciate why you are a management consultant....a friend of mine who performed the same function would explain that the essential quality required was knowing how to make the right face.

That's stupid. Inflation would be a factor in choosing a discount rate, but again, we're discussing buying ingredients and selling them immediately. You're using terms for long term investments. Google it, retard.

"The compound annual growth rate (CAGR) is a useful measure of growth over multiple time periods. It can be thought of as the growth rate that gets you from the initial investment value to the ending investment value if you assume that the investment has been compounding over the time period"

What is "compounding over an investment time period to buy lettuce, tomatoes and beef and sell them as Big Macs?" You don't know what you're talking about, you don't want to learn anything and I'm going to go back to your debate style of contradiction

Uh.....does inflation NOT "compound over time" in your universe?

It's irrelevant to the discussion. You keep presenting terms to analyze long term investments in a discussion of simply buying ingredients and selling a product.

Saying that inflation compounds is true but irrelevant to that