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“Gun ownership is particularly high compared to other common items. For example, in 813 itemized male inventories from the 1774 Jones national database, guns are listed in 54% of estates, compared to only 30% of estates listing any cash,…”
Moron......I gave you the actual new study he did where he changed the number from 43 to 2.7........you can lie, but I gave you the actual study........you idiot.
Moron......I gave you the actual new study he did where he changed the number from 43 to 2.7........you can lie, but I gave you the actual study........you idiot.
You vote for the political party of the people you call slave rapists...you idiot....
Guns in colonial times were not rare, you doofus....you tried to use the Michael Bellesiles book as your source...until I posted the fact that he had his award pulled and was fired for lying in his book about guns being rare.....
This is why we don't take assholes like you seriously....the truth, facts and reality don't support anything you believe or say, and then, when we show that the facts, truth and reality don't support anything you believe or say, you continue to lie.......
You’re desperately trying to cover for your fraudulent, invented claims. The data was presented to you, the data confounded your bogus, “… because I say so”, claims so you’re hoping to do damage control for your wounded ego.“Gun ownership is particularly high compared to other common items. For example, in 813 itemized male inventories from the 1774 Jones national database, guns are listed in 54% of estates, compared to only 30% of estates listing any cash,…”
Except most people didn't leave "estates"... that was the thing. If you had an estate, you were among the property owning elite.
Now, this is an important point, because in the days of the Founding Slave Rapists, they saw "the people" as white, land owning males, which was a small fraction of the population.
A gun in those days cost as much as a skilled artisan's monthly wages, for a device that didn't have that much utility. they weren't really good for hunting.
It wasn't until later in the 18th century that guns were mass produced and became more common. In fact, the NRA was originally founded because a Union General was horrified about how UNSKILLED with guns most Northern men were.
Leftists guy, I found it comical that you abandoned your earlier bending and scraping before the Altar of Michael Bellesiles and decided to plow new furrows in the field of the left.Moron......I gave you the actual new study he did where he changed the number from 43 to 2.7........you can lie, but I gave you the actual study........you idiot.
You vote for the political party of the people you call slave rapists...you idiot....
Um, sorry, Dick Tiny, there were no "Democrats" in 1787. There were Federalists and Democratic-Republicans. The Democratic Party really didn't become "a thing" until Andrew Jackson. The Federalists, Democratic Republicans and Whigs also supported slavery.
Guns in colonial times were not rare, you doofus....you tried to use the Michael Bellesiles book as your source...until I posted the fact that he had his award pulled and was fired for lying in his book about guns being rare.....
Most Americans Did Not Own Guns at the Start of the American Revolution
By Harry Schenawolf, author of the Shades of Liberty Series about African American soldiers in the American Revolution. Remember that scene in The Patriot where Mel Gibson scooped up a bunch of gun…www.revolutionarywarjournal.com
Colonials were farmers and had no need to nor did they hunt. Only a very small percentage of the population actually acquired their food through wild game. This is as incredible as it sounds, and unbelievable after generations of text and later media portrayals of colonial Americans as wilderness warriors. But the truth is, our forefathers obtained their meat the same way their relatives did in Europe, from domestic livestock. They were farmers. They spent long hours on their farms, tilling the soil and raising crops and all the animals necessary to feed their families. The chores were numerous and lasted all day and all year long. They had no time to wonder through wooded lands, carrying an expensive musket that cost an entire year’s earnings which was also notoriously inaccurate, hoping to find large game that was far more scarce than today. Oh, and forget about grove bored rifles. They were even more expensive and rare, made by a small number of gunsmiths in America who still had to import the firing mechanism from Europe. Besides, the forests were heavily wooded. Getting off a good shot that wouldn’t be deflected by all the vegetation was nearly impossible. So why bother even owning a gun when all you had to do is raise some beef cattle, a few cows, some hogs, and chickens and walk out to the barn and slaughter all the meat needed. Even frontier communities and settlers brought their livestock with them. And as for hunting – they too found it time consuming and less productive, trying to bag large game in the tight forests. Most brought in wild meat for their family’s consumption by trapping small game which proved much more efficient to supplement their slaughtered livestock.
This is why we don't take assholes like you seriously....the truth, facts and reality don't support anything you believe or say, and then, when we show that the facts, truth and reality don't support anything you believe or say, you continue to lie.......
Guy, the problem is that you cling to your mythologies about guns being common and useful, when they really weren't.
“Gun ownership is particularly high compared to other common items. For example, in 813 itemized male inventories from the 1774 Jones national database, guns are listed in 54% of estates, compared to only 30% of estates listing any cash,…”
Except most people didn't leave "estates"... that was the thing. If you had an estate, you were among the property owning elite.
Now, this is an important point, because in the days of the Founding Slave Rapists, they saw "the people" as white, land owning males, which was a small fraction of the population.
A gun in those days cost as much as a skilled artisan's monthly wages, for a device that didn't have that much utility. they weren't really good for hunting.
It wasn't until later in the 18th century that guns were mass produced and became more common. In fact, the NRA was originally founded because a Union General was horrified about how UNSKILLED with guns most Northern men were.
Moron......I gave you the actual new study he did where he changed the number from 43 to 2.7........you can lie, but I gave you the actual study........you idiot.
You vote for the political party of the people you call slave rapists...you idiot....
Um, sorry, Dick Tiny, there were no "Democrats" in 1787. There were Federalists and Democratic-Republicans. The Democratic Party really didn't become "a thing" until Andrew Jackson. The Federalists, Democratic Republicans and Whigs also supported slavery.
Guns in colonial times were not rare, you doofus....you tried to use the Michael Bellesiles book as your source...until I posted the fact that he had his award pulled and was fired for lying in his book about guns being rare.....
Most Americans Did Not Own Guns at the Start of the American Revolution
By Harry Schenawolf, author of the Shades of Liberty Series about African American soldiers in the American Revolution. Remember that scene in The Patriot where Mel Gibson scooped up a bunch of gun…www.revolutionarywarjournal.com
Colonials were farmers and had no need to nor did they hunt. Only a very small percentage of the population actually acquired their food through wild game. This is as incredible as it sounds, and unbelievable after generations of text and later media portrayals of colonial Americans as wilderness warriors. But the truth is, our forefathers obtained their meat the same way their relatives did in Europe, from domestic livestock. They were farmers. They spent long hours on their farms, tilling the soil and raising crops and all the animals necessary to feed their families. The chores were numerous and lasted all day and all year long. They had no time to wonder through wooded lands, carrying an expensive musket that cost an entire year’s earnings which was also notoriously inaccurate, hoping to find large game that was far more scarce than today. Oh, and forget about grove bored rifles. They were even more expensive and rare, made by a small number of gunsmiths in America who still had to import the firing mechanism from Europe. Besides, the forests were heavily wooded. Getting off a good shot that wouldn’t be deflected by all the vegetation was nearly impossible. So why bother even owning a gun when all you had to do is raise some beef cattle, a few cows, some hogs, and chickens and walk out to the barn and slaughter all the meat needed. Even frontier communities and settlers brought their livestock with them. And as for hunting – they too found it time consuming and less productive, trying to bag large game in the tight forests. Most brought in wild meat for their family’s consumption by trapping small game which proved much more efficient to supplement their slaughtered livestock.
This is why we don't take assholes like you seriously....the truth, facts and reality don't support anything you believe or say, and then, when we show that the facts, truth and reality don't support anything you believe or say, you continue to lie.......
Guy, the problem is that you cling to your mythologies about guns being common and useful, when they really weren't.
Moron......I gave you the actual new study he did where he changed the number from 43 to 2.7........you can lie, but I gave you the actual study........you idiot.
You vote for the political party of the people you call slave rapists...you idiot....
Um, sorry, Dick Tiny, there were no "Democrats" in 1787. There were Federalists and Democratic-Republicans. The Democratic Party really didn't become "a thing" until Andrew Jackson. The Federalists, Democratic Republicans and Whigs also supported slavery.
Guns in colonial times were not rare, you doofus....you tried to use the Michael Bellesiles book as your source...until I posted the fact that he had his award pulled and was fired for lying in his book about guns being rare.....
Most Americans Did Not Own Guns at the Start of the American Revolution
By Harry Schenawolf, author of the Shades of Liberty Series about African American soldiers in the American Revolution. Remember that scene in The Patriot where Mel Gibson scooped up a bunch of gun…www.revolutionarywarjournal.com
Colonials were farmers and had no need to nor did they hunt. Only a very small percentage of the population actually acquired their food through wild game. This is as incredible as it sounds, and unbelievable after generations of text and later media portrayals of colonial Americans as wilderness warriors. But the truth is, our forefathers obtained their meat the same way their relatives did in Europe, from domestic livestock. They were farmers. They spent long hours on their farms, tilling the soil and raising crops and all the animals necessary to feed their families. The chores were numerous and lasted all day and all year long. They had no time to wonder through wooded lands, carrying an expensive musket that cost an entire year’s earnings which was also notoriously inaccurate, hoping to find large game that was far more scarce than today. Oh, and forget about grove bored rifles. They were even more expensive and rare, made by a small number of gunsmiths in America who still had to import the firing mechanism from Europe. Besides, the forests were heavily wooded. Getting off a good shot that wouldn’t be deflected by all the vegetation was nearly impossible. So why bother even owning a gun when all you had to do is raise some beef cattle, a few cows, some hogs, and chickens and walk out to the barn and slaughter all the meat needed. Even frontier communities and settlers brought their livestock with them. And as for hunting – they too found it time consuming and less productive, trying to bag large game in the tight forests. Most brought in wild meat for their family’s consumption by trapping small game which proved much more efficient to supplement their slaughtered livestock.
This is why we don't take assholes like you seriously....the truth, facts and reality don't support anything you believe or say, and then, when we show that the facts, truth and reality don't support anything you believe or say, you continue to lie.......
Guy, the problem is that you cling to your mythologies about guns being common and useful, when they really weren't.
Moron......I gave you the actual new study he did where he changed the number from 43 to 2.7........you can lie, but I gave you the actual study........you idiot.
Yeah, except the study wasn't done by Kellerman, all they did was say, if you take out the suicides, the number goes down to 2.7 homicides to 1 criminal homicide. That wasn't the point, really. The fact is, a gun in the house made a suicide possible. Sure that person COULD have found other methods, but they are all less effective and more trouble, so a household without guns would have a lesser change of suicide.
I've known of three people who committed suicide. Two used guns, one walked in front of a train.
Shit bird.....the democrat party was founded by actual slave owners, in particular, Andrew Jackson and another guy.....you support the actual political party of slave rapists to this day....you moron.
Funny how many people who know you commit suicide.....
You’re desperately trying to cover for your fraudulent, invented claims. The data was presented to you, the data confounded your bogus, “… because I say so”, claims so you’re hoping to do damage control for your wounded ego.
Leftists guy, I found it comical that you abandoned your earlier bending and scraping before the Altar of Michael Bellesiles and decided to plow new furrows in the field of the left.
They didn't leave estates....the gun was simply passed to the next of kin, you idiot...here....your dad's dead, here's his rifle.....you moron.
Shit bird.....the democrat party was founded by actual slave owners, in particular, Andrew Jackson and another guy.....you support the actual political party of slave rapists to this day....you moron.
"Indian Raids". Uh, guy, the Native Americans weren't the perpetrators of violence, they were the VICTIMS. We genocided the fuck out of those poor bastards, but usually, it was done at the point of GOVERNMENT guns, not private guns. In fact, it was illegal to sell weapons to Native Americans.The attempt to change reality to enforce gun control knows no limits.........guns were an essential part of colonial life....considering the chances of indian raids, you doofus..........
Kellerman got caught, and changed his number...but still didn't change the underlying flawed data he used to get to that number..........
The Japanese, commit suicide just fine without guns....as do many european countries that have higher suicide rates than the U.S.......
Funny how many people who know you commit suicide.....
I'd love to be able to say that they all opposed slavery, but that's not true. Slavery was controversial, at that time. Though the Constitution doers not directly address slavery, it contains a few provisions that were compromises between those who supported slavery, and those who opposed it.
It stands out, in a more general sense, that the experiences that @Incel Joe claims to have had, regarding other people, are not those that most of us have, in our dealings with normal people. No surprise, given that he's rather obviously a criminal and a mental case, that he hangs out with those similar to himself, and therefore sees the sort of issues that he sees; and then assumes that normal, decent, mainstream Americans are no different that himself and the scum with whom he associates.
As we see with regularity, the angry leftist insists that his "...because I say so" commandments are to be taken seriously.You’re desperately trying to cover for your fraudulent, invented claims. The data was presented to you, the data confounded your bogus, “… because I say so”, claims so you’re hoping to do damage control for your wounded ego.
No, dummy, it's just a matter of history and technology. Guns were expensive in 1776 and just not terribly useful.
Muskets were only effective militarily when fired in volley. Then they had to resort to fighting with bayonets. The colonists had few guns, they had to import them from France, which bankrupted itself supporting our war effort.
Leftists guy, I found it comical that you abandoned your earlier bending and scraping before the Altar of Michael Bellesiles and decided to plow new furrows in the field of the left.
Not at all. Just pointing out that the myth of the minuteman is exactly that.
They didn't leave estates....the gun was simply passed to the next of kin, you idiot...here....your dad's dead, here's his rifle.....you moron.
More like "your dad is dead, he didn't have a rifle because it would have cost more than a year's salary and he was dirt poor, like you are."
Shit bird.....the democrat party was founded by actual slave owners, in particular, Andrew Jackson and another guy.....you support the actual political party of slave rapists to this day....you moron.
So where the Federalists, the Whigs, and the Democratic-Republicans... This country was built on slavery. I know, this hurts your feelings, and don't you dare ever teach Critical Race Theory, because, um, reasons.
Getting back to guns, the purpose of the guns was to maintain white supremacy. Rich WHITE people were supposed to have guns, not the unwashed rabble.
"Indian Raids". Uh, guy, the Native Americans weren't the perpetrators of violence, they were the VICTIMS. We genocided the fuck out of those poor bastards, but usually, it was done at the point of GOVERNMENT guns, not private guns. In fact, it was illegal to sell weapons to Native Americans.The attempt to change reality to enforce gun control knows no limits.........guns were an essential part of colonial life....considering the chances of indian raids, you doofus..........
Kellerman got caught, and changed his number...but still didn't change the underlying flawed data he used to get to that number..........
Kellerman clarified, but the numbers still don't tell the fantasies you want about playing Batman.
The Japanese, commit suicide just fine without guns....as do many european countries that have higher suicide rates than the U.S.......
The Japanese live in a culture where suicide is acceptable. We don't.
Funny how many people who know you commit suicide.....
I said "people I know of". One was a neighbor I barely talked to. The other was a child of a friend I never met personally. The third person was a clinically depressed person who I met once or twice. (She was an in-law of a good friend.)
But leave it to you and Mormon Bob to make light of other people's tragedies... Hey, speaking of Mormon Creeps.
I'd love to be able to say that they all opposed slavery, but that's not true. Slavery was controversial, at that time. Though the Constitution doers not directly address slavery, it contains a few provisions that were compromises between those who supported slavery, and those who opposed it.
Guy, the Constitution specifically says slaves count as 3/5th of a white person. It also prohibited the Federal Government from preventing the importation of new slaves at a time when the British were stomping out the slave trade. (Section 1, Article 9).
Interpretation: The Slave Trade Clause | Constitution Center
Interpretations of The Slave Trade Clause by constitutional scholarsconstitutioncenter.org
The more fundamental problem is that the Founding Fathers talked all this flowerly language about "All Men being created equal", but still put in a bunch of laws allowing the continuation of slavery.
We can also talk about how Brigham Young tried to bring Utah into the Union as a slave state.
It stands out, in a more general sense, that the experiences that @Incel Joe claims to have had, regarding other people, are not those that most of us have, in our dealings with normal people. No surprise, given that he's rather obviously a criminal and a mental case, that he hangs out with those similar to himself, and therefore sees the sort of issues that he sees; and then assumes that normal, decent, mainstream Americans are no different that himself and the scum with whom he associates.
Wow, you see, this is why I have kind of contempt for you, the lack of compassion.
My neighbor who killed himself was suffering from cancer, and couldn't afford medical treatment. He was in extreme pain every day. Yes, he was poor, but that didn't make him a bad person. Just kind of tragic.
This is why real Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christian, because you fucks are pretty much the opposite about what Jesus talked about.
As we see with regularity, the angry leftist insists that his "...because I say so" commandments are to be taken seriously.
Guns were common among the pre-revolutionary settlers as the data shows. When you have a rabid leftist narrative to press, facts don't matter.
Actually, the data shows clearly that guns were commonly owned among the pre-revolutionary settlers. Ignoring the data won't make it go away.As we see with regularity, the angry leftist insists that his "...because I say so" commandments are to be taken seriously.
Guns were common among the pre-revolutionary settlers as the data shows. When you have a rabid leftist narrative to press, facts don't matter.
They data doesn't show that at all, in fact, it shows quite the opposite.
Here's the thing. Guns were really expensive in colonial America. They were in fact a luxury item. A simple musket cost as much as a skilled artisan's monthly wages.
Now, when was the last time you spent a months wages on a single item? The only time we do that today is when we buy something like a home or a car.
So we have no established that if you were a simple dirt farmer or a skilled artisan, you really couldn't afford a gun. The next question becomes, did you need one.
Well, again, they weren't useful for hunting. They just weren't that accurate. They didn't use them for protection from Native Americans. When they wanted to steal native land, they sent in the military.
You’re desperately trying to cover for your fraudulent, invented claims. The data was presented to you, the data confounded your bogus, “… because I say so”, claims so you’re hoping to do damage control for your wounded ego.
No, dummy, it's just a matter of history and technology. Guns were expensive in 1776 and just not terribly useful.
Muskets were only effective militarily when fired in volley. Then they had to resort to fighting with bayonets. The colonists had few guns, they had to import them from France, which bankrupted itself supporting our war effort.
Leftists guy, I found it comical that you abandoned your earlier bending and scraping before the Altar of Michael Bellesiles and decided to plow new furrows in the field of the left.
Not at all. Just pointing out that the myth of the minuteman is exactly that.
They didn't leave estates....the gun was simply passed to the next of kin, you idiot...here....your dad's dead, here's his rifle.....you moron.
More like "your dad is dead, he didn't have a rifle because it would have cost more than a year's salary and he was dirt poor, like you are."
Shit bird.....the democrat party was founded by actual slave owners, in particular, Andrew Jackson and another guy.....you support the actual political party of slave rapists to this day....you moron.
So where the Federalists, the Whigs, and the Democratic-Republicans... This country was built on slavery. I know, this hurts your feelings, and don't you dare ever teach Critical Race Theory, because, um, reasons.
Getting back to guns, the purpose of the guns was to maintain white supremacy. Rich WHITE people were supposed to have guns, not the unwashed rabble.
"Indian Raids". Uh, guy, the Native Americans weren't the perpetrators of violence, they were the VICTIMS. We genocided the fuck out of those poor bastards, but usually, it was done at the point of GOVERNMENT guns, not private guns. In fact, it was illegal to sell weapons to Native Americans.The attempt to change reality to enforce gun control knows no limits.........guns were an essential part of colonial life....considering the chances of indian raids, you doofus..........
Kellerman got caught, and changed his number...but still didn't change the underlying flawed data he used to get to that number..........
Kellerman clarified, but the numbers still don't tell the fantasies you want about playing Batman.
The Japanese, commit suicide just fine without guns....as do many european countries that have higher suicide rates than the U.S.......
The Japanese live in a culture where suicide is acceptable. We don't.
Funny how many people who know you commit suicide.....
I said "people I know of". One was a neighbor I barely talked to. The other was a child of a friend I never met personally. The third person was a clinically depressed person who I met once or twice. (She was an in-law of a good friend.)
But leave it to you and Mormon Bob to make light of other people's tragedies... Hey, speaking of Mormon Creeps.
I'd love to be able to say that they all opposed slavery, but that's not true. Slavery was controversial, at that time. Though the Constitution doers not directly address slavery, it contains a few provisions that were compromises between those who supported slavery, and those who opposed it.
Guy, the Constitution specifically says slaves count as 3/5th of a white person. It also prohibited the Federal Government from preventing the importation of new slaves at a time when the British were stomping out the slave trade. (Section 1, Article 9).
Interpretation: The Slave Trade Clause | Constitution Center
Interpretations of The Slave Trade Clause by constitutional scholarsconstitutioncenter.org
The more fundamental problem is that the Founding Fathers talked all this flowerly language about "All Men being created equal", but still put in a bunch of laws allowing the continuation of slavery.
We can also talk about how Brigham Young tried to bring Utah into the Union as a slave state.
It stands out, in a more general sense, that the experiences that @Incel Joe claims to have had, regarding other people, are not those that most of us have, in our dealings with normal people. No surprise, given that he's rather obviously a criminal and a mental case, that he hangs out with those similar to himself, and therefore sees the sort of issues that he sees; and then assumes that normal, decent, mainstream Americans are no different that himself and the scum with whom he associates.
Wow, you see, this is why I have kind of contempt for you, the lack of compassion.
My neighbor who killed himself was suffering from cancer, and couldn't afford medical treatment. He was in extreme pain every day. Yes, he was poor, but that didn't make him a bad person. Just kind of tragic.
This is why real Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christian, because you fucks are pretty much the opposite about what Jesus talked about.
You’re desperately trying to cover for your fraudulent, invented claims. The data was presented to you, the data confounded your bogus, “… because I say so”, claims so you’re hoping to do damage control for your wounded ego.
No, dummy, it's just a matter of history and technology. Guns were expensive in 1776 and just not terribly useful.
Muskets were only effective militarily when fired in volley. Then they had to resort to fighting with bayonets. The colonists had few guns, they had to import them from France, which bankrupted itself supporting our war effort.
Leftists guy, I found it comical that you abandoned your earlier bending and scraping before the Altar of Michael Bellesiles and decided to plow new furrows in the field of the left.
Not at all. Just pointing out that the myth of the minuteman is exactly that.
They didn't leave estates....the gun was simply passed to the next of kin, you idiot...here....your dad's dead, here's his rifle.....you moron.
More like "your dad is dead, he didn't have a rifle because it would have cost more than a year's salary and he was dirt poor, like you are."
Shit bird.....the democrat party was founded by actual slave owners, in particular, Andrew Jackson and another guy.....you support the actual political party of slave rapists to this day....you moron.
So where the Federalists, the Whigs, and the Democratic-Republicans... This country was built on slavery. I know, this hurts your feelings, and don't you dare ever teach Critical Race Theory, because, um, reasons.
Getting back to guns, the purpose of the guns was to maintain white supremacy. Rich WHITE people were supposed to have guns, not the unwashed rabble.
"Indian Raids". Uh, guy, the Native Americans weren't the perpetrators of violence, they were the VICTIMS. We genocided the fuck out of those poor bastards, but usually, it was done at the point of GOVERNMENT guns, not private guns. In fact, it was illegal to sell weapons to Native Americans.The attempt to change reality to enforce gun control knows no limits.........guns were an essential part of colonial life....considering the chances of indian raids, you doofus..........
Kellerman got caught, and changed his number...but still didn't change the underlying flawed data he used to get to that number..........
Kellerman clarified, but the numbers still don't tell the fantasies you want about playing Batman.
The Japanese, commit suicide just fine without guns....as do many european countries that have higher suicide rates than the U.S.......
The Japanese live in a culture where suicide is acceptable. We don't.
Funny how many people who know you commit suicide.....
I said "people I know of". One was a neighbor I barely talked to. The other was a child of a friend I never met personally. The third person was a clinically depressed person who I met once or twice. (She was an in-law of a good friend.)
But leave it to you and Mormon Bob to make light of other people's tragedies... Hey, speaking of Mormon Creeps.
I'd love to be able to say that they all opposed slavery, but that's not true. Slavery was controversial, at that time. Though the Constitution doers not directly address slavery, it contains a few provisions that were compromises between those who supported slavery, and those who opposed it.
Guy, the Constitution specifically says slaves count as 3/5th of a white person. It also prohibited the Federal Government from preventing the importation of new slaves at a time when the British were stomping out the slave trade. (Section 1, Article 9).
Interpretation: The Slave Trade Clause | Constitution Center
Interpretations of The Slave Trade Clause by constitutional scholarsconstitutioncenter.org
The more fundamental problem is that the Founding Fathers talked all this flowerly language about "All Men being created equal", but still put in a bunch of laws allowing the continuation of slavery.
We can also talk about how Brigham Young tried to bring Utah into the Union as a slave state.
It stands out, in a more general sense, that the experiences that @Incel Joe claims to have had, regarding other people, are not those that most of us have, in our dealings with normal people. No surprise, given that he's rather obviously a criminal and a mental case, that he hangs out with those similar to himself, and therefore sees the sort of issues that he sees; and then assumes that normal, decent, mainstream Americans are no different that himself and the scum with whom he associates.
Wow, you see, this is why I have kind of contempt for you, the lack of compassion.
My neighbor who killed himself was suffering from cancer, and couldn't afford medical treatment. He was in extreme pain every day. Yes, he was poor, but that didn't make him a bad person. Just kind of tragic.
This is why real Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christian, because you fucks are pretty much the opposite about what Jesus talked about.
The Japanese live in a culture where suicide is acceptable. We don't.You’re desperately trying to cover for your fraudulent, invented claims. The data was presented to you, the data confounded your bogus, “… because I say so”, claims so you’re hoping to do damage control for your wounded ego.
No, dummy, it's just a matter of history and technology. Guns were expensive in 1776 and just not terribly useful.
Muskets were only effective militarily when fired in volley. Then they had to resort to fighting with bayonets. The colonists had few guns, they had to import them from France, which bankrupted itself supporting our war effort.
Leftists guy, I found it comical that you abandoned your earlier bending and scraping before the Altar of Michael Bellesiles and decided to plow new furrows in the field of the left.
Not at all. Just pointing out that the myth of the minuteman is exactly that.
They didn't leave estates....the gun was simply passed to the next of kin, you idiot...here....your dad's dead, here's his rifle.....you moron.
More like "your dad is dead, he didn't have a rifle because it would have cost more than a year's salary and he was dirt poor, like you are."
Shit bird.....the democrat party was founded by actual slave owners, in particular, Andrew Jackson and another guy.....you support the actual political party of slave rapists to this day....you moron.
So where the Federalists, the Whigs, and the Democratic-Republicans... This country was built on slavery. I know, this hurts your feelings, and don't you dare ever teach Critical Race Theory, because, um, reasons.
Getting back to guns, the purpose of the guns was to maintain white supremacy. Rich WHITE people were supposed to have guns, not the unwashed rabble.
"Indian Raids". Uh, guy, the Native Americans weren't the perpetrators of violence, they were the VICTIMS. We genocided the fuck out of those poor bastards, but usually, it was done at the point of GOVERNMENT guns, not private guns. In fact, it was illegal to sell weapons to Native Americans.The attempt to change reality to enforce gun control knows no limits.........guns were an essential part of colonial life....considering the chances of indian raids, you doofus..........
Kellerman got caught, and changed his number...but still didn't change the underlying flawed data he used to get to that number..........
Kellerman clarified, but the numbers still don't tell the fantasies you want about playing Batman.
The Japanese, commit suicide just fine without guns....as do many european countries that have higher suicide rates than the U.S.......
The Japanese live in a culture where suicide is acceptable. We don't.
Funny how many people who know you commit suicide.....
I said "people I know of". One was a neighbor I barely talked to. The other was a child of a friend I never met personally. The third person was a clinically depressed person who I met once or twice. (She was an in-law of a good friend.)
But leave it to you and Mormon Bob to make light of other people's tragedies... Hey, speaking of Mormon Creeps.
I'd love to be able to say that they all opposed slavery, but that's not true. Slavery was controversial, at that time. Though the Constitution doers not directly address slavery, it contains a few provisions that were compromises between those who supported slavery, and those who opposed it.
Guy, the Constitution specifically says slaves count as 3/5th of a white person. It also prohibited the Federal Government from preventing the importation of new slaves at a time when the British were stomping out the slave trade. (Section 1, Article 9).
Interpretation: The Slave Trade Clause | Constitution Center
Interpretations of The Slave Trade Clause by constitutional scholarsconstitutioncenter.org
The more fundamental problem is that the Founding Fathers talked all this flowerly language about "All Men being created equal", but still put in a bunch of laws allowing the continuation of slavery.
We can also talk about how Brigham Young tried to bring Utah into the Union as a slave state.
It stands out, in a more general sense, that the experiences that @Incel Joe claims to have had, regarding other people, are not those that most of us have, in our dealings with normal people. No surprise, given that he's rather obviously a criminal and a mental case, that he hangs out with those similar to himself, and therefore sees the sort of issues that he sees; and then assumes that normal, decent, mainstream Americans are no different that himself and the scum with whom he associates.
Wow, you see, this is why I have kind of contempt for you, the lack of compassion.
My neighbor who killed himself was suffering from cancer, and couldn't afford medical treatment. He was in extreme pain every day. Yes, he was poor, but that didn't make him a bad person. Just kind of tragic.
This is why real Christians don't consider Mormons to be Christian, because you fucks are pretty much the opposite about what Jesus talked about.
As we see with regularity, the angry leftist insists that his "...because I say so" commandments are to be taken seriously.
Guns were common among the pre-revolutionary settlers as the data shows. When you have a rabid leftist narrative to press, facts don't matter.
They data doesn't show that at all, in fact, it shows quite the opposite.
Here's the thing. Guns were really expensive in colonial America. They were in fact a luxury item. A simple musket cost as much as a skilled artisan's monthly wages.
Now, when was the last time you spent a months wages on a single item? The only time we do that today is when we buy something like a home or a car.
So we have no established that if you were a simple dirt farmer or a skilled artisan, you really couldn't afford a gun. The next question becomes, did you need one.
Well, again, they weren't useful for hunting. They just weren't that accurate. They didn't use them for protection from Native Americans. When they wanted to steal native land, they sent in the military.