Democrats Never Met A Communist....

[sealybobo]

They still hate Reagan for calling the USSR an Evil Empire, promising to defeat it and collapsing their empire

Sure, the Dems back then really wanted communism to work, I think they were really dissapointed

Just because we disagree with lord Reagan doesn't mean we were rooting for Russia. But that's how republicans are with Obama. They'd love for him and the dems to fail back when we were in charge. In fact they obstructed and slowed our recovery all for politics. Treasonist

 

[sealybobo]

Do you know when the black freedom riders in the civil rights movement tried to ride on a grayhound bus the kkk burned the bus. Besides the N word they called them commies. Are you really pulling the red scare card today?

It's weird how some on the right still call MLK a commie, while others claim he was really a conservative!!! Which is it?

They call anyone who disagrees with them Commy or socialist. All my con friends do it. They're brainwashed with two or three easy talking points that put you on the defensive and they control the conversation

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They still hate Reagan for calling the USSR an Evil Empire, promising to defeat it and collapsing their empire

Sure, the Dems back then really wanted communism to work, I think they were really dissapointed

Just because we disagree with lord Reagan doesn't mean we were rooting for Russia. But that's how republicans are with Obama. They'd love for him and the dems to fail back when we were in charge. In fact they obstructed and slowed our recovery all for politics. Treasonist

But you admit you love Communism and the USSR, right?

 

[PoliticalChic]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

"No one wants to be communist stupid."
. "I like cooking my family and my pets."
Use commas, don't be a psycho.



So.....how to explain the confluence of the aims of the Democrat Party and the Communist Party?

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.


4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."



9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."



10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?
Wadda coincidence, huh?


I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

 

[PoliticalChic]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

That's a lie.
It's spread by secularists, and believed by idiots.


Let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):


14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

 

[PoliticalChic]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

LOL

That is your response to what Stalin and Mao did as they slaughtered and starved their own people.

Christians did it................LOL

How many Iraqis did christian bush kill? Christians have lots of blood on their hands.

And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism.

Also consider lots of leaders might say they believe but don't really. They only use religion to con the stupid masses. You.

"And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism."
I have to stop saying "how stupid can you be...you take it as a challenge."

Atheism is essential to the nature of communism.

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too."
The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


2.There is no God:
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

 

[danielpalos]

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

LOL

That is your response to what Stalin and Mao did as they slaughtered and starved their own people.

Christians did it................LOL

How many Iraqis did christian bush kill? Christians have lots of blood on their hands.

And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism.

Also consider lots of leaders might say they believe but don't really. They only use religion to con the stupid masses. You.

"And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism."
I have to stop saying "how stupid can you be...you take it as a challenge."

Atheism is essential to the nature of communism.

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too."
The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


2.There is no God:
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

The underlined part is a fallacy of false Cause or a false dichotomy, since, our Founding Fathers ordained and established our secular and temporal morals as citizen of our republic. What isn't covered by our Ten Amendments. In any case, as part of our supreme law of the land, our Ten Amendments are more supreme than Any commandments of even Religion, simply Because, our Founding Fathers spake it so, in Article the Sixth.

 

[sealybobo]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

"No one wants to be communist stupid."
. "I like cooking my family and my pets."
Use commas, don't be a psycho.



So.....how to explain the confluence of the aims of the Democrat Party and the Communist Party?

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.


4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."



9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."



10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?
Wadda coincidence, huh?


I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

You're a nut and I would have to spend all day addressing every one of your wrong talking points. Not gonna do it.

What would you have instead of the UN? Why do we have a Federal Government in the USA? Why don't we just have state governments and do away with the Federal Government? Same reason we have a UN. Without the UN, how will the countries of the world get together? Is it perfect? No, but neither is the USA.

 

[sealybobo]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

That's a lie.
It's spread by secularists, and believed by idiots.


Let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):


14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

Drop in the bucket compared to Christians. Remember you have to take credit for the Muslims. They are theists killing in the name of too.

 

[sealybobo]

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

LOL

That is your response to what Stalin and Mao did as they slaughtered and starved their own people.

Christians did it................LOL

How many Iraqis did christian bush kill? Christians have lots of blood on their hands.

And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism.

Also consider lots of leaders might say they believe but don't really. They only use religion to con the stupid masses. You.

"And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism."
I have to stop saying "how stupid can you be...you take it as a challenge."

Atheism is essential to the nature of communism.

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too."
The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


2.There is no God:
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

This guy in Iran questioned something in the koran and they killed him.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

LOL

That is your response to what Stalin and Mao did as they slaughtered and starved their own people.

Christians did it................LOL

How many Iraqis did christian bush kill? Christians have lots of blood on their hands.

And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism.

Also consider lots of leaders might say they believe but don't really. They only use religion to con the stupid masses. You.

"And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism."
I have to stop saying "how stupid can you be...you take it as a challenge."

Atheism is essential to the nature of communism.

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too."
The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


2.There is no God:
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

The underlined part is a fallacy of false Cause or a false dichotomy, since, our Founding Fathers ordained and established our secular and temporal morals as citizen of our republic. What isn't covered by our Ten Amendments. In any case, as part of our supreme law of the land, our Ten Amendments are more supreme than Any commandments of even Religion, simply Because, our Founding Fathers spake it so, in Article the Sixth.

Why do you insist on appearing the dope?

The post to which you supposedly are responding does not refer to the Founders, does it.


What and who is specifically mentioned, you dolt?

 

[PoliticalChic]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

"No one wants to be communist stupid."
. "I like cooking my family and my pets."
Use commas, don't be a psycho.



So.....how to explain the confluence of the aims of the Democrat Party and the Communist Party?

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.


4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."



9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."



10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?
Wadda coincidence, huh?


I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

You're a nut and I would have to spend all day addressing every one of your wrong talking points. Not gonna do it.

What would you have instead of the UN? Why do we have a Federal Government in the USA? Why don't we just have state governments and do away with the Federal Government? Same reason we have a UN. Without the UN, how will the countries of the world get together? Is it perfect? No, but neither is the USA.

1. "You're a nut and I would have to spend all day addressing every one of your wrong talking points. Not gonna do it."
Which leads to the simple, yet overwhelming, conclusion that I am correct.


2. "What would you have instead of the UN?"
National sovereignty.
The United Nations was the brainchild of Joseph Stalin; the first Sec'y General was a Soviet Spy; the charter gave Staling three votes to the US's single vote.

3 "Why do we have a Federal Government in the USA? Why don't we just have state governments and do away with the Federal Government? "
You're an idiot: "The term "federalism" is also used to describe a system of government in whichsovereignty is constitutionally divided between a central governing authority and constituent political units (such as states or provinces)."
Federalism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

That's a lie.
It's spread by secularists, and believed by idiots.


Let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):


14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

Drop in the bucket compared to Christians. Remember you have to take credit for the Muslims. They are theists killing in the name of too.

Are you a liar or a moron?

"Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million.This number would include ancient wars, theCrusades, theInquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials."
Ibid.

 

[sealybobo]

....that they didn't adore.



"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the American philosopher George Santayana.

No where is that more clearly illustrated than in the beliefs and actions of American Liberals/Progressives/Democrats.

As this thread will so demonstrate.




1. Communism, a political philosophy born of slaughter, bloodshed, genocide and oppression. Beyond evil, it's failures in economics and governance are well documented. So....who would endeavor to repeat it?
Answer: Liberals/Progressives/Democrats

2. A brief history of it's home-base, mother Russia, includes 9 million killed in the civil war, 1917-1922; Stalin's regime, 1924-1953, over 20 million slaughtered; (Twentieth Century Atlas - Death Tolls

Add in the communist spin-offs in China, Cambodia, Cuba, Viet Nam, etc., and the number goes well beyond 100 million mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, lives counted as less important than the victory of communism.
And this is the hallmark of every totalist view, communism, Nazism, socialism, Liberalism, Progressivism.....the life of the individual may never be considered, only the collective, the state, the "general will" is paramount.




3. Under the auspices of Franklin Roosevelt, the United States drew closer, and embraced, the Communist regime of Joseph Stalin. FDR Democrats covered for, ignored, and made excuses for massacres, genocide, government instituted famines and lies of every variety. The same view of communism has persisted 'til this very day among Democrat elites and leaders.

a. When one of the many communist agents in his administration was identified, Alger Hiss, President Roosevelt promoted him.

b. January 25th, 1950 Alger Hiss sentenced for perjury for denying he was a Soviet spy
Dean Acheson, Truman’s Sec’y of State, said: “I do not intend to turn my back on Alger
Hiss.”




4. One would be hard pressed to find any request by Joseph Stalin that did not find a willing response from FDR, from Lend-Lease to the direction of Allied military operations, and refusal to accept the surrender of Germany.

Just maybe, the Kravchenko case might be one time FDR hesitated to fulfill Stalin's commands.....

Roosevelt regularly lied to the American public about Russia having the same values as the United States, and censored any news to the contrary. Victor Kravchenko told the truth about Stalin's Russia.



a. Victor Kravchenko was one of the first and most influential Soviet defectors to the United States, who had written "I Chose Freedom," a searing account of life under Stalin, denouncing the Stalin regime for failure to grant political and civil liberties to the Russian people.
"The Anti-Communist Manifestos: Four Books That Shaped the Cold War," John Fleming, p. 182-183

b. Kravchenko wanted to shatter those illusions. His defection was front-page news and prompted debate at the highest levels of government, up to and including President Franklin D. Roosevelt. Stalin demanded that he be turned over as a traitor--an automatic death sentence.
FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover urged FDR to let him stay.
On April 13, 1945, the day after Roosevelt died, Kravchenko received notice that his application for asylum had been granted.
Searching for Tato - LA Times



Perhaps Roosevelt was ambivalent about sending Kravchenko back to the tender mercies of Uncle Joe, as Kravchenko was head-line news throughout the nation....and only after Roosevelt's death did Kravchenko receive notice of asylum.


Had Roosevelt lived.....who knows....

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

"No one wants to be communist stupid."
. "I like cooking my family and my pets."
Use commas, don't be a psycho.



So.....how to explain the confluence of the aims of the Democrat Party and the Communist Party?

1. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.


2. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.


3. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.


4. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.


5. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.


6. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


7. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.


8. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."



9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."



10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.


11. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

12. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.


13. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce


Now....wouldn't an honest appraisal agree that all or almost all are clearly the aims and direction of Democrats/Liberals/Progressive leaders?
Wadda coincidence, huh?


I got 'em from a website of declared communist goals...

The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals

You're a nut and I would have to spend all day addressing every one of your wrong talking points. Not gonna do it.

What would you have instead of the UN? Why do we have a Federal Government in the USA? Why don't we just have state governments and do away with the Federal Government? Same reason we have a UN. Without the UN, how will the countries of the world get together? Is it perfect? No, but neither is the USA.

1. "You're a nut and I would have to spend all day addressing every one of your wrong talking points. Not gonna do it."
Which leads to the simple, yet overwhelming, conclusion that I am correct.


2. "What would you have instead of the UN?"
National sovereignty.
The United Nations was the brainchild of Joseph Stalin; the first Sec'y General was a Soviet Spy; the charter gave Staling three votes to the US's single vote.

3 "Why do we have a Federal Government in the USA? Why don't we just have state governments and do away with the Federal Government? "
You're an idiot: "The term "federalism" is also used to describe a system of government in whichsovereignty is constitutionally divided between a central governing authority and constituent political units (such as states or provinces)."
Federalism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Well then you dope you should realize that in the UN, the "states" that are members also have sovereignty. And before Bush we didn't invade other sovereign states.

• Federated state, a political entity forming part of a federal sovereign state such as the United States, Australia, India and Brazil
  • Australian state
  • Brazilian state
  • German state
  • Indian state
  • Malaysian state
  • Mexican state
  • Nigerian state
  • Sudanese state
  • South Sudanese state
  • U.S. state
  • Venezuelan state

 

[sealybobo]

No one wants to be communist stupid. Tell me though how well your unregulated free market capitalism has done in the last 100 years. Barely surviving. At least twice we had to bail our your economic gods who were too big to fail.

Since when did the Markets become True Capitalism...........................

The manipulation of Markets is not the creation of REAL PRODUCTS AND GOODS, it is the manipulation via FIAT currency which makes the day. When the Markets actually produce REAL PRODUCTS LET ME KNOW...............

Do they build lumber................a car..................gasoline...............NO THEY DON'T............CAPITALISM WORKS, and COMMUNISM IS BS....................I've already posted the data on the Communist and Socialist like Stalin........their contribution to the world is the SLAUGHTER OF ABOUT 100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

That's a lie.
It's spread by secularists, and believed by idiots.


Let’s take a look at secularism’s rich history of mass murder, and we need not go back a thousand years to make the point. Here are the 800 pound gorilla death totals from some notable secular leaders from the recent past (from the book Death by Government by R.J. Rummel):


14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

14 Liberal Demagoguery Hate and Violence 8211 A Compendium

Drop in the bucket compared to Christians. Remember you have to take credit for the Muslims. They are theists killing in the name of too.

Are you a liar or a moron?

"Some people blame organized religion for most of history's killings. It is also sometimes claimed that more people have been killed in the name of Christ than for any other reason.

The total number of deaths estimated to lie at the feet of humanity's poor practice of Christianity is approximately 17 million.This number would include ancient wars, theCrusades, theInquisitions, various European wars during the Middle Ages, and witchcraft trials."
Ibid.

And some fools blame atheists for Mao and Stalin and Pol Pot.

None of them did what they did in the name of atheism. But you theists kill in the name of god all the time. You Christians did it a lot more in the past, but you still do it to this day. Religion played a role in invading Iraq. And religion played a role in who we dropped the bomb on in ww2. Do we drop it on the white Catholics in Germany or the slant eye devils in Japan. Which would you pick?

“With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” – Steven Weinberg

 

[sealybobo]

Theists have killed more in fact many deaths you claim atheists did were actually done by christians. The Nazis were catholic Germans. And how many blacks and Indians did religious america kill?

LOL

That is your response to what Stalin and Mao did as they slaughtered and starved their own people.

Christians did it................LOL

How many Iraqis did christian bush kill? Christians have lots of blood on their hands.

And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism.

Also consider lots of leaders might say they believe but don't really. They only use religion to con the stupid masses. You.

"And Stalin didn't kill in the name of atheism."
I have to stop saying "how stupid can you be...you take it as a challenge."

Atheism is essential to the nature of communism.

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too."
The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.


2.There is no God:
This concept is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor.
The Schwarz Report Essays

The underlined part is a fallacy of false Cause or a false dichotomy, since, our Founding Fathers ordained and established our secular and temporal morals as citizen of our republic. What isn't covered by our Ten Amendments. In any case, as part of our supreme law of the land, our Ten Amendments are more supreme than Any commandments of even Religion, simply Because, our Founding Fathers spake it so, in Article the Sixth.

Why do you insist on appearing the dope?

The post to which you supposedly are responding does not refer to the Founders, does it.


What and who is specifically mentioned, you dolt?

One more thing. Number 38 explains why you are wrong. For me to explain it in my own words would take too much time. You aren't worth it. Look into all the highlighted points too. If you want to know the real truth, you need to look deep. You are as deluded as any Muslim, Mormon or Jehova. Yet like you they think they are right. Why don't you ever argue with them? Us atheists just say you are all wrong, across the board. PERIOD.

Atheism inspired Nazism/Communism/Social Darwinism.
An ad hominem deflection which demonstrates a failure to understand that atheism is simply a lack of belief in god(s), with no inherit moral, political or philosophical baggage, and thus no line can be drawn from it to the aforementioned ideologies. In the same vein, democracy could be called atheistic. See also: Association fallacy, appeal to emotion and irrelevant thesis.

Hitler was religious and publicly decried atheism. See also: Nazism and Religion,Reductio ad Hitlerum. So even if privately he was an atheist it shouldn't matter. He used religion as a tool to get the Germans to go along. They were gods chosen people. Who were his soldiers? They were Catholic Germans. You know the saying there are no atheists in fox holes? You better believe those Germans thought they were on the side of right and gods chosen people, just like white slave owners in America in the 1600's believed and white racists in the 1960's were Christians.

Stalinism and Communism exercised gosateizm (state atheism) based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism. Atheism was a means to an end, not a cause. See also: Soviet Union and Religion.

Why there is no god

 

[sealybobo]

They still hate Reagan for calling the USSR an Evil Empire, promising to defeat it and collapsing their empire

Sure, the Dems back then really wanted communism to work, I think they were really dissapointed

Just because we disagree with lord Reagan doesn't mean we were rooting for Russia. But that's how republicans are with Obama. They'd love for him and the dems to fail back when we were in charge. In fact they obstructed and slowed our recovery all for politics. Treasonist

But you admit you love Communism and the USSR, right?

No. And I wish you would stop calling Democrats communists because it isn't working and makes me not take you righties seriously. Its like I instantly know you are a brainwashed right wing fool the minute you say that one word.

Real Communism is the kind that was practiced in the former Soviet Union. It can be found in Cuba and North Korea where the state controls all power and property,and the people have none.

First of all we don't want to control all power and property and secondly, it is the GOP with their lobbyists and Citizens United who have taken the power of the people away. What ever happened to one man one vote and campaign finance reform? Oh I forgot, you fascists want no regulations so you can have all the power. You want to shrink the size of government to a level so that it is powerless to stop the corporate polluters and slave laborers. You want social darwinism, winner take all. Basically Libertarians. Show me a time in history when that worked. The best time we had was from 1950 to 1999 when unions were strong, labor laws were put in place, pensions, affordable healthcare, free public schools and college was inexpensive. All done by a government. Meanwhile the corporations and the rich did just fine. But they are greedy. They want it all. They always have. So starting with Reagan they started doing away with the New Deal and Unions. Sent jobs overseas.

Your way of Capitalism doesn't work. Our way does. Call it socialism if you want, corporations need to be regulated and if they can't do something, like deliver mail anywhere in the USA no matter how remote for the price of a stamp, that's why we have a socialist Post office. But the GOP want to do away with that. So it'll cost $50 if you want to mail something to your hick relatives in the sticks.

 

[sealybobo]

Republicans think Democrats want the government to have too much power. Democrats think Republicans want the government to not have enough power so it is powerless against the rich. Basically they want a puppet government that serves the rich and corporations, not the poor.

This is nothing new in human history. The Greeks and their democracy was the same way. It wasn't for the poor and they owned slaves. Only the rich are smart enough to decide things. Not the masses. Republicans to this day believe this. You'll notice it when they delight in the fact that only 30% of the voting population shows up to vote. They don't think those other 70% should vote because they aren't smart enough. Well neither are middle class people who vote GOP. That doesn't stop them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Does anyone believe that Communist regimes start out promising slavery, poverty, control and mass murder?

They start out just where our progressives are today: the rich are holding you down so kill the rich if you want to get ahead

 

[Yarddog]

They still hate Reagan for calling the USSR an Evil Empire, promising to defeat it and collapsing their empire

Sure, the Dems back then really wanted communism to work, I think they were really dissapointed

Just because we disagree with lord Reagan doesn't mean we were rooting for Russia. But that's how republicans are with Obama. They'd love for him and the dems to fail back when we were in charge. In fact they obstructed and slowed our recovery all for politics. Treasonist

Republicans think Democrats want the government to have too much power. Democrats think Republicans want the government to not have enough power so it is powerless against the rich. Basically they want a puppet government that serves the rich and corporations, not the poor.

This is nothing new in human history. The Greeks and their democracy was the same way. It wasn't for the poor and they owned slaves. Only the rich are smart enough to decide things. Not the masses. Republicans to this day believe this. You'll notice it when they delight in the fact that only 30% of the voting population shows up to vote. They don't think those other 70% should vote because they aren't smart enough. Well neither are middle class people who vote GOP. That doesn't stop them.

The tendency of all governments is to move towards total control. Thats the trend. As they establish and grow burocracies like the EPA that create laws though regulations, you can watch your freedoms very slowly dissapear. Were not there yet, but the government expansion makes life hard for the little guy who has to follow all their rules. The Government determines who is considered rich and who is not, and whos money is to be to distributed to whom, I dont think the average democrat is a communist by far, but I believe the elites in washington love the idea of the socialist/communist model. They want to move us in that direction , but they cant do it all at once. Republicans I feel dont give a damn really either, there really is no party that represents the people anymore, to them were all citizens of the world, you can see that in our immigration policies, so who does washington represent anyway these days? besides themselves. Never trust any of them,
only try to vote for the lesser of the evils