Democrats threaten Catholic Church for denying Biden Communion

[MisterBeale]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

If the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Planned Parenthood pays no taxes.... But they sure suck up federal funding.....lol

Dumbass leftists

 

[MisterBeale]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

The argument here is tax exempt status while funneling money to political campaigns and causes. Tax exempt status comes from the IRS rules. Revoking those rules would not be a Constitutional violation. No one is preventing them from assembly or their right to speak their political viewpoints. No undue burden. They would be taxed like every other overt political entity.

Sorry, your argument here holds no water.

. . . oh clearly. And that is why government hasn't tried to tax them yet.



Sorry dude, the IRS has no jurisdiction over religious entities.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.

 

[Magnus]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?

 

[MisterBeale]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.

I don't have to. . .

. . . the government has no jurisdiction over religious organizations, you are just wrong.

This is America, not England, not Canada, not China or Russia. . .

Your arguments might be all well and good, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The government has no authority over religion, END OF STORY.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?

Same for Planned Parenthood?

Go scratch your ass

 

[MisterBeale]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?

Bullshit.

It is the job of religious entities to point out the corruption and sin in our system. . .

That is why we have the first Amendment.

You let the government attack religion for telling the people that truth? It becomes a war between Church and State.

 

[Magnus]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.

I don't have to. . .

. . . the government has no jurisdiction over religious organizations, you are just wrong.

This is America, not England, not Canada, not China or Russia. . .

Your arguments might be all well and good, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The government has no authority over religion, END OF STORY.

Yup and religious organizations have no jurisdiction over members of the government. This isn't the Middle East.

 

[MisterBeale]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.

I don't have to. . .

. . . the government has no jurisdiction over religious organizations, you are just wrong.

This is America, not England, not Canada, not China or Russia. . .

Your arguments might be all well and good, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The government has no authority over religion, END OF STORY.

Yup and religious organizations have no jurisdiction over members of the government. This isn't the Middle East.

I ABSOLUTELY agree.

Anyone that doesn't like what any particular religion preaches? They can go find themselves a new religion, can't they?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.

I don't have to. . .

. . . the government has no jurisdiction over religious organizations, you are just wrong.

This is America, not England, not Canada, not China or Russia. . .

Your arguments might be all well and good, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The government has no authority over religion, END OF STORY.

I think you'll find in the case of taxation, you are incorrect.
The government has no right to interfere in assembly, speech, or practice.
But money?? Especially when it comes to funding political causes, I think you'll find you are mistaken.

 

[Magnus]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.

Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.

Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?

Bullshit.

It is the job of religious entities to point out the corruption and sin in our system. . .

That is why we have the first Amendment.

You let the government attack religion for telling the people that truth? It becomes a war between Church and State.

Funny. You've hit upon one of my biggest gripes with the belief system known as Conservatism. That belief system does not stem and flow from a belief in The Constitution or the rule of law,
but from a fundamental belief in God. Attack religion for telling people the truth????? Whose truth? The founding fathers specifically wanted Church and State separated. Conservatives have
been trying to blur that separation for decades. I don't need a bible thumper to point out corruption in our system. And sin?...well, that's a matter of who you'd rather laugh or cry with.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.

Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.

Get lost. Family members, close relatives, neighbors are all more likely to abuse children. Go ask the FBI if you don't believe me.
The Catholic Church was a haven for decades for priests and clergy that sexually molested children. All swept and whisked under
the rug...and in some cases, enabled.

Were you born under a rock?

 

[MisterBeale]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.

I don't have to. . .

. . . the government has no jurisdiction over religious organizations, you are just wrong.

This is America, not England, not Canada, not China or Russia. . .

Your arguments might be all well and good, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The government has no authority over religion, END OF STORY.

I think you'll find in the case of taxation, you are incorrect.
The government has no right to interfere in assembly, speech, or practice.
But money?? Especially when it comes to funding political causes, I think you'll find you are mistaken.

Do you suppose they taxed this guy?





. . . I doubt it, do you?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.

Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.

Get lost. Family members, close relatives, neighbors are all more likely to abuse children. Go ask the FBI if you don't believe me.
The Catholic Church was a haven for decades for priests and clergy that sexually molested children. All swept and whisked under
the rug...and in some cases, enabled.

Were you born under a rock?

Research and then comment, freak.

The debate is clergy vs public education

Get back to me when you have and can be honest, Jack Off

 

[MisterBeale]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?

Bullshit.

It is the job of religious entities to point out the corruption and sin in our system. . .

That is why we have the first Amendment.

You let the government attack religion for telling the people that truth? It becomes a war between Church and State.

Funny. You've hit upon one of my biggest gripes with the belief system known as Conservatism. That belief system does not stem and flow from a belief in The Constitution or the rule of law,
but from a fundamental belief in God. Attack religion for telling people the truth????? Whose truth? The founding fathers specifically wanted Church and State separated. Conservatives have
been trying to blur that separation for decades. I don't need a bible thumper to point out corruption in our system. And sin?...well, that's a matter of who you'd rather laugh or cry with.

You can't separate the two if the State is taxing the Church.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK.

Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!

Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

https://jcmatthews.org/uploads/5/3/7/7/5377341/in_caesars_grip.pdf

"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.

I don't have to. . .

. . . the government has no jurisdiction over religious organizations, you are just wrong.

This is America, not England, not Canada, not China or Russia. . .

Your arguments might be all well and good, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The government has no authority over religion, END OF STORY.

I think you'll find in the case of taxation, you are incorrect.
The government has no right to interfere in assembly, speech, or practice.
But money?? Especially when it comes to funding political causes, I think you'll find you are mistaken.

Do you suppose they taxed this guy?





. . . I doubt it, do you?

Sorry. If you're trying to corner me here on having a different point of view on this guy's church because of political ideology, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Religious organizations, unless you can prove you are a straight up charity (like Catholic Charities), lose that tax exempt status. Period. Left or right ideologically.

 

[theHawk]

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

House Democrat Suggests Stripping Catholic Church Of Tax-Exempt Status If Biden Denied Communion | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.

The Catholic Church was largely persecuted in Nazi Germany.

Perhaps they didn’t do enough at the beginning. So they should make the same mistake with the Biden Regime? When people and institutions stand up to authoritarian governments, shouldn’t it be applauded?