Democrats threaten Catholic Church for denying Biden Communion

Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.
Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.
Do you have any proof that the Left covers up public educators molesting of kids or are you just talking out of the you-know-what?
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?
Bullshit.

It is the job of religious entities to point out the corruption and sin in our system. . .

That is why we have the first Amendment.

You let the government attack religion for telling the people that truth? It becomes a war between Church and State.

Funny. You've hit upon one of my biggest gripes with the belief system known as Conservatism. That belief system does not stem and flow from a belief in The Constitution or the rule of law,
but from a fundamental belief in God. Attack religion for telling people the truth????? Whose truth? The founding fathers specifically wanted Church and State separated. Conservatives have
been trying to blur that separation for decades. I don't need a bible thumper to point out corruption in our system. And sin?...well, that's a matter of who you'd rather laugh or cry with. :)
You can't separate the two if the State is taxing the Church.

In what fantasy world of yours? A levied tax?..creates the wall. After the tax is levied, the church can decide if they want to contribute to a political organization.
My guess is that most probably wouldn't. That tax exempt status?...is a nice way to contribute and influence politics and keep that separation as blurred as possible.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.
Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.
Do you have any proof that the Left covers up public educators molesting of kids or are you just talking out of the you-know-what?

I never said anyone covered it up. I stated a fact. I'll remind you the Church abuse was perpetuated by homosexuals hiding within the Church.

Explan this....

 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

A church that protected its pedophiles for decades is cool.
Well lots of Democrats are in the Church, promoting and practicing their satanic and unholy beliefs. Isn’t calling them out a good thing? As long as they keep “forgiving” these blatant sinners, will it change? Now they are willing to call them out, and you’re upset about it.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

A church that protected its pedophiles for decades is cool.
Well lots of Democrats are in the Church, promoting and practicing their satanic and unholy beliefs. Isn’t calling them out a good thing? As long as they keep “forgiving” these blatant sinners, will it change? Now they are willing to call them out, and you’re upset about it.

The queer forgets it was queers doing the molestation
 
They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK. :)
Legally separating them from Bishop's oversight might be a positive. They could still have charitable status.

I'd prefer it if religious organizations did not offer "official" pronouncements on political issues. If an individual bishop wants to run his (and read his) diocese the way he sees fit, so be it.
abortion is more then a political issue...it’s a moral issue and the church and any church can have a view on it

threatening a church over its dogma is frankly very leftwing through...the national socialist did it, stalin did it etc

xiden as a Catholic should know the church’s views and he is free to have them, but at the same time he knows the potential consequences
 
They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK. :)
Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!
Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

It the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

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"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison

I am not wrong. Please point out to me what harm comes to the church by taxing them as an organization? Will they be forced to close their doors? No. Will they be prevented from expressing their viewpoints? No. Will they be able to give to whatever political cause they wish? Yes. Everything you've quoted here is an emotional, religious reaction to a simple matter of tax exempt status. No one is silencing them or forcing them to close their doors.
I don't have to. . .

. . . the government has no jurisdiction over religious organizations, you are just wrong.

This is America, not England, not Canada, not China or Russia. . .

Your arguments might be all well and good, IT DOES NOT MATTER.

The government has no authority over religion, END OF STORY.

I think you'll find in the case of taxation, you are incorrect.
The government has no right to interfere in assembly, speech, or practice.
But money?? Especially when it comes to funding political causes, I think you'll find you are mistaken. :)
Do you suppose they taxed this guy?

:dunno:



. . . I doubt it, do you?


Sorry. If you're trying to corner me here on having a different point of view on this guy's church because of political ideology, you're barking up the wrong tree.
Religious organizations, unless you can prove you are a straight up charity (like Catholic Charities), lose that tax exempt status. Period. Left or right ideologically.

Nope.

Simply asking the question.

Do you honestly think this guy was taxed.

If you know WHY Johnson made that law in the first place, you damn well know the answer.

This is a weaponized law.

. . . and they rarely use it, if ever anymore, because they know? To do so against any church is unconstitutional.

AND I KNOW THE TRUTH. If a religion IS hassled by the government, they simply refuse to incorporate, IOW, they refuse to be a part of the system, and then they have the protection of the First Amendment.

END OF STORY.
 
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Planned Parenthood pays no taxes.... But they sure suck up federal funding.....lol

Dumbass leftists
Planned Parenthood is the official Church for Democrats.

Their main pillar of belief and most sacred practice is performed at Planned Parenthood: the sacrifice of unborn babies.
 
Nothing more than leftist Dem grandstanding. They can't nor would ever come close to denying tax exempt status to the Catholic Church for literally following doctrine.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

A church that protected its pedophiles for decades is cool.
Well lots of Democrats are in the Church, promoting and practicing their satanic and unholy beliefs. Isn’t calling them out a good thing? As long as they keep “forgiving” these blatant sinners, will it change? Now they are willing to call them out, and you’re upset about it.

The queer forgets it was queers doing the molestation
It’s what the left does. Infiltrate institutions, carry out their corrupt and immoral acts, then blame the entire institution. They do this in all aspects of life.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?
Bullshit.

It is the job of religious entities to point out the corruption and sin in our system. . .

That is why we have the first Amendment.

You let the government attack religion for telling the people that truth? It becomes a war between Church and State.

Funny. You've hit upon one of my biggest gripes with the belief system known as Conservatism. That belief system does not stem and flow from a belief in The Constitution or the rule of law,
but from a fundamental belief in God. Attack religion for telling people the truth????? Whose truth? The founding fathers specifically wanted Church and State separated. Conservatives have
been trying to blur that separation for decades. I don't need a bible thumper to point out corruption in our system. And sin?...well, that's a matter of who you'd rather laugh or cry with. :)
You can't separate the two if the State is taxing the Church.

In what fantasy world of yours? A levied tax?..creates the wall. After the tax is levied, the church can decide if they want to contribute to a political organization.
My guess is that most probably wouldn't. That tax exempt status?...is a nice way to contribute and influence politics and keep that separation as blurred as possible.
I have been to Open Secrets many many times.

Never have I seen any Churches, Synagogues, Temples, or religious denominations listed as donors.

Get out of here with your bullshit now.

If the State is taking resources from religious organizations, there is no wall, the State is interfering with the operations of religious organizations by draining their operating revenue and putting it toward goals to which the religious organization might not approve, i.e. killing innocent folks overseas for some corporate agenda.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

Do you blame them.

I was never asked my name when I received the host. For all they care I could of been a serial killer that tortured many children before I killed them.

Your salvation is up to you, not the church. The person giving you communion doesn't know your secrets, but God does.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.
Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.
Do you have any proof that the Left covers up public educators molesting of kids or are you just talking out of the you-know-what?

I never said anyone covered it up. I stated a fact. I'll remind you the Church abuse was perpetuated by homosexuals hiding within the Church.

Explan this....


Your point? (other than straight up gaslighting).
Your link says nothing about your homophobic tendencies of Church officials.

This link concerns sexual harassment. Boys and girls. Here's the highlights
  • 38% of the students were harassed by teachers or school employees
  • 36% of school employees or teachers were harassed by student
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

A church that protected its pedophiles for decades is cool.
Well lots of Democrats are in the Church, promoting and practicing their satanic and unholy beliefs. Isn’t calling them out a good thing? As long as they keep “forgiving” these blatant sinners, will it change? Now they are willing to call them out, and you’re upset about it.

The queer forgets it was queers doing the molestation
It’s what the left does. Infiltrate institutions, carry out their corrupt and immoral acts, then blame the entire institution. They do this in all aspects of life.

I was livid when it came out about the Church covering it up. Absolutely livid. That said? Don't be casting stones while your own is doing it.

Leave children alone, they have enough going on without adults preying on them
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

A church that protected its pedophiles for decades is cool.
Well lots of Democrats are in the Church, promoting and practicing their satanic and unholy beliefs. Isn’t calling them out a good thing? As long as they keep “forgiving” these blatant sinners, will it change? Now they are willing to call them out, and you’re upset about it.

The queer forgets it was queers doing the molestation
It’s what the left does. Infiltrate institutions, carry out their corrupt and immoral acts, then blame the entire institution. They do this in all aspects of life.

I was livid when it came out about the Church covering it up. Absolutely livid. That said? Don't be casting stones while your own is doing it.

Leave children alone, they have enough going on without adults preying on them
Yup, all those pedos should had been hanged publicly.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

If any religious entity wants to meddle in politics and/or target politicians who are enacting secular laws, then it is time they lose their religious designation and have to pay taxes just like the rest of us.

What part of that is difficult to understand?
Bullshit.

It is the job of religious entities to point out the corruption and sin in our system. . .

That is why we have the first Amendment.

You let the government attack religion for telling the people that truth? It becomes a war between Church and State.

Funny. You've hit upon one of my biggest gripes with the belief system known as Conservatism. That belief system does not stem and flow from a belief in The Constitution or the rule of law,
but from a fundamental belief in God. Attack religion for telling people the truth????? Whose truth? The founding fathers specifically wanted Church and State separated. Conservatives have
been trying to blur that separation for decades. I don't need a bible thumper to point out corruption in our system. And sin?...well, that's a matter of who you'd rather laugh or cry with. :)
You can't separate the two if the State is taxing the Church.

In what fantasy world of yours? A levied tax?..creates the wall. After the tax is levied, the church can decide if they want to contribute to a political organization.
My guess is that most probably wouldn't. That tax exempt status?...is a nice way to contribute and influence politics and keep that separation as blurred as possible.
I have been to Open Secrets many many times.

Never have I seen any Churches, Synagogues, Temples, or religious denominations listed as donors.

Get out of here with your bullshit now.

If the State is taking resources from religious organizations, there is no wall, the State is interfering with the operations of religious organizations by draining their operating revenue and putting it toward goals to which the religious organization might not approve, i.e. killing innocent folks overseas for some corporate agenda.

I thought you were a little more worldly wise. There are many ways a religious organization can get around being "listed" as a donor.
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.
Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.
Do you have any proof that the Left covers up public educators molesting of kids or are you just talking out of the you-know-what?

I never said anyone covered it up. I stated a fact. I'll remind you the Church abuse was perpetuated by homosexuals hiding within the Church.

Explan this....

What is it you want me to explain? My initial point was that the Catholic church has a history of covering up children molestations of the clergy and yet, they have the gall to sit to deny holy communion for elected officials who are doing their sworn duty. You jumped in with the claim that the left is silent on child molestations from public educators.

When I challenge you to prove it, you put a link from wiki that proves no such thing. So, what is it you want me to explain?
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

A church that protected its pedophiles for decades is cool.
Well lots of Democrats are in the Church, promoting and practicing their satanic and unholy beliefs. Isn’t calling them out a good thing? As long as they keep “forgiving” these blatant sinners, will it change? Now they are willing to call them out, and you’re upset about it.

The queer forgets it was queers doing the molestation
It’s what the left does. Infiltrate institutions, carry out their corrupt and immoral acts, then blame the entire institution. They do this in all aspects of life.

I was livid when it came out about the Church covering it up. Absolutely livid. That said? Don't be casting stones while your own is doing it.

Leave children alone, they have enough going on without adults preying on them
Yup, all those pedos should had been hanged publicly.

The reoffend rate is astronomical. It's a sick disease with no cure....I agree
 
Democrats to declare war on the Catholic Church for following their own doctrine and holding politicians accountable for their public policies.

That’s sure to go over well with Hispanic voters.

Did the Catholic church deny communion to the Nazis for their National Socialist genocide? I don't think so. That is why they did not come out publicly against the Holocaust. They knew that their church would be burned to the ground and all of them shot.

But facing all of the Left wing governments in the world, I think they have similar concerns with the far Left over coming out against yet another Left wing Holocaust of abortion.

My guess is that they will cave like they did in the 1940s.
Forget about the Catholic church and the Nazis...how about the Catholic church and its own priests who were guilty of child molestations?

In practically every country that has the Catholic church, there were priests who were known to the hierarchy of being guilty of molesting children. And what was their punishment? Most of them were quietly transferred to another parish to continue their molestations. Hardly any were punished.

And this is the entity that is now sitting on judgment over Catholic Democrats? Talk about hypocrisy. And the church wonders why people are leaving in droves.

Public educators are far more likely to molest children.

But silence from the all to holy left.
Do you have any proof that the Left covers up public educators molesting of kids or are you just talking out of the you-know-what?

I never said anyone covered it up. I stated a fact. I'll remind you the Church abuse was perpetuated by homosexuals hiding within the Church.

Explan this....

What is it you want me to explain? My initial point was that the Catholic church has a history of covering up children molestations of the clergy and yet, they have the gall to sit to deny holy communion for elected officials who are doing their sworn duty. You jumped in with the claim that the left is silent on child molestations from public educators.

When I challenge you to prove it, you put a link from wiki that proves no such thing. So, what is it you want me to explain?

Listen up you leftist fuckwit I've posted I was livid at the cover-up, still am but don't you for one moment think it's a Catholic Church issue...it's an issue across-the-board.

Own your own fucking side then you'll have standing
 
They should be stripped of that anyway. The church as an entity.
I believe orgs like Catholic Charities and the Sisters of Mercy will be OK. :)
Can't tax religion, it's unconstitutional. It violates the First Amendment, sorry.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

Hypothetically? It would pose an undue burden on new religions, favoring established well off denominations of Protestantism, Judaism, and Catholicism .. . . which would, by default, amount to the state sanctioning those as establishment religions.

Taxing religion interferes with the "free exercise thereof." Sorry godless atheist. . . YOU ARE SHIT OUT OF LUCK.

Wow, you have that backwards!

The tax laws exempt religions from paying taxes. Therefore, the tax law is a law which 'Respects establishments of Religions'. The exemption should be removed from the tax laws, then religious organizations would have to pay taxes like everyone else.

Making religious organizations pay taxes would in no way prohibit the free exercise of that religion.

Sorry, voodoo man, your argument is BULLSHIT!!!
Sorry bud, you are wrong on that.

If a religious entity does not incorporate to take advantage of liability protections? They need not worry about that law.

It is only to be applied to 501c organizations. If an organization does not want to be a 501c but still is a recognized religion? They are immune to the IRS.

If the government ever tried to tax the churches, they would either de-incorporate, take it to the Supreme Court, or Americans would simply not pay. That is all there is to it. If you fail to understand this, you are unAmerican.

"It's impossible to have religious freedom in any nation where churches are licensed to the government. In this book Mr. Kershaw exposes the root cause problems of rampant and unhindered immorality, government tyranny and corruption, and the inability of the State-licenses church to offer any real hope for combating these devastating societal problems."--Cover.

31CKWG5Sp+L._BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


"There is not a shadow of right in the general government to inter-meddle with religion. This subject is, for the honor of America, perfectly free and unshackled. The government has no jurisdiction over it."

~James Madison
Section 501(c)(3) of the tax code defines the qualifications for a religious organization for tax exempt status. Those constraints define what is and is not a religious organization. It is a violation of religious freedom that infringes on all religions that do not qualify.

Section 501(c)(3) violates the first amendment. It is a law which respects an establishment of religion.

The first amendment has been blatantly ignored because of the political clout of religious zealots.

Religious organizations ARE BUSINESSES! They should be taxed as such.

They are in the business of taking advantage of dumbass primeval fears of morons.
 

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