Dems of the board, was impeachment a good idea?

If the documents or first hand witnesses would provide exculpatory evidence of their client, the would MOST CERTAINLY turn them over. There would be no reason for them to not want to clear their client asap, before being charged.

Not given the circumstances. Keep in mind, the House was led by Adam Schiff. This would be like your ex-wife's best friend being the judge in your case. You do not want to give them anything whatsoever to go on. Don't turn over documents and you shouldn't be charged with anything given the lack of evidence. Obviously, your ex-wife's best friend, the judge, wouldn't care and may charge you anyway. BTW, the single most important document of all, the transcript from the call, was turned over at the very start. The Democrats realized they didn't have anything and even dropped the Quid Pro Quo narrative and went with obstruction of congress instead, meaning, we have nothing but we can try to get a process crime out of this thing.
 
And yes, if you were innocent and the documents would show you are innocent, you Damn right your lawyer would advise you to turn it ALL over, lickedy split!!!

Wrong. If you can't be convicted without documents, no sane lawyer would ask you to turn them over. No matter how innocent a person is, most lawyers will tell you that their clients talk too much or reveal too much. If you are innocent, why give the other side anything? You guys don't seem to understand that the burden of proof is on the prosecution, NOT the defendant. They must prove your guilt. You do not have to prove your innocence.
If the documents or first hand witnesses would provide exculpatory evidence of their client, they would MOST CERTAINLY turn them over. There would be no reason for them to not want to clear their client asap, before being charged.
That is total bullshit. One should never waive privilege just because the other side says it shouldn't matter or that the privileged information would be exculpatory if one was not guilty.

you rarely see even innocent accused take the stand and waive their fifth amendment right.

Why?

Because it doesn't matter what they say or how innocent the accused may be, the prosecution will cross examine them and make them look really bad.

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From the Russia gate to the Kavanaugh false accusations and then to the shampeachment. What is next?

To those who are not yet participating in an American party, do you believe the impeachment was a good idea? President Trump won again, didn't he?

What is the thought process behind the choices the party is making? Hate is going to defeat president Trump, no good candidates required?
Trump didn't win. He got impeached. Democrats have excellent candidates and when its time, you will understand how weak the republican candidate really is.

Excellent candidates? Oboe is backing blumberg. Ha. Good luck, sore losers. [emoji1787]


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Obama has backed no one. trump is about to lose. He's a very weak candidate with a failed presidency.

He’s on douchberg’s commercial IMWrong. You are weak. [emoji1787]


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Obama has issued no formal endorsement.
 
It's my hobby too.... :(

(In addition to crocheting)

Crocheting? Is it possible to make an order?

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From the Russia gate to the Kavanaugh false accusations and then to the shampeachment. What is next?

To those who are not yet participating in an American party, do you believe the impeachment was a good idea? President Trump won again, didn't he?

What is the thought process behind the choices the party is making? Hate is going to defeat president Trump, no good candidates required?
Trump didn't win. He got impeached. Democrats have excellent candidates and when its time, you will understand how weak the republican candidate really is.

Excellent candidates? Oboe is backing blumberg. Ha. Good luck, sore losers. [emoji1787]


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Obama has backed no one. trump is about to lose. He's a very weak candidate with a failed presidency.

Malcolm X would have described you as a "Chump" (a Black person that votes Democrat), now on that he was smelling reality. .. just a hint there IM2 oblivious.
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Malcolm X said that in 1962. Your disingenuous use of this comment is noted given that he would not say the same thing today.
 
From the Russia gate to the Kavanaugh false accusations and then to the shampeachment. What is next?

To those who are not yet participating in an American party, do you believe the impeachment was a good idea? President Trump won again, didn't he?

What is the thought process behind the choices the party is making? Hate is going to defeat president Trump, no good candidates required?
Trump didn't win. He got impeached. Democrats have excellent candidates and when its time, you will understand how weak the republican candidate really is.

Excellent candidates? Oboe is backing blumberg. Ha. Good luck, sore losers. [emoji1787]


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Obama has backed no one. trump is about to lose. He's a very weak candidate with a failed presidency.

Malcolm X would have described you as a "Chump" (a Black person that votes Democrat), now on that he was smelling reality. .. just a hint there IM2 oblivious.
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Go easy on him. He’s a shut in, with nothing to do. This is his hobby.


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Seems that you are here just as much as me.
 
There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

Correction: Trump has committed no crime. The democrat tactic of trying to get someone removed for not committing a crime is a other brilliant one.
Correction. Trump is guilty as hell. That's why he blocked witnesses and documents.

Trump does not play nice with people who do not play nice.

Great quality...
Yeah, In a mob boss, Mafioso, la Cosa Nostra.... kind of way..... :rolleyes:

:D just the perfect, admirable trait to teach your kids....
Better than raising a stable of weak beta males.

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Says who? God? Christ? He says to LOVE your enemies.... should I follow him, or you and Trump? :dunno:

Men who are not decrepit, weak, boisterous assholes, are stronger than crybabies like Trump.
 
And yes, if you were innocent and the documents would show you are innocent, you Damn right your lawyer would advise you to turn it ALL over, lickedy split!!!

Wrong. If you can't be convicted without documents, no sane lawyer would ask you to turn them over. No matter how innocent a person is, most lawyers will tell you that their clients talk too much or reveal too much. If you are innocent, why give the other side anything? You guys don't seem to understand that the burden of proof is on the prosecution, NOT the defendant. They must prove your guilt. You do not have to prove your innocence.
If the documents or first hand witnesses would provide exculpatory evidence of their client, they would MOST CERTAINLY turn them over. There would be no reason for them to not want to clear their client asap, before being charged.
It's my hobby too.... :(

(In addition to crocheting)

Crocheting? Is it possible to make an order?

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It would have been wonderful to have a nice Christmas present from Care... Hat for a suit?

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Even Mitt can't have a problem with it...
 
Correction: Trump has committed no crime. The democrat tactic of trying to get someone removed for not committing a crime is a other brilliant one.
Correction. Trump is guilty as hell. That's why he blocked witnesses and documents.

Trump does not play nice with people who do not play nice.

Great quality...
Yeah, In a mob boss, Mafioso, la Cosa Nostra.... kind of way..... :rolleyes:

:D just the perfect, admirable trait to teach your kids....
Better than raising a stable of weak beta males.

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Says who? God? Christ? He says to LOVE your enemies.... should I follow him, or you and Trump? :dunno:

Men who are not decrepit, weak, boisterous assholes, are stronger than crybabies like Trump.

God teaches us to love our enemies?

God certainly DOES NOT teach us to love Satan Care... that may be where you are going wrong. We should love those who love our nation... TRUMP.
 
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There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

Correction: Trump has committed no crime. The democrat tactic of trying to get someone removed for not committing a crime is a other brilliant one.
But it's the DOJ that nvestigates crimes.... statutory crimes.... And they chose not to.

And the Congress only investigates high crimes and misdemeanors on the President.


They are not one and the same thing.... at least 99% of the constitutional scholars believe they are not synonymous.

High crimes & Ms can be a statutory crime as well, but also crimes against the Constitution and Oath of office, or no crime at all....

Like if the President moved to Paris after being elected and never showed up for work ...... or drank 24/7, or wore silk pajamas 24/7..... as EXTREME examples..... No crimes at all are committed by doing those things.... but all are impeachable offenses.
Hillary drinks 24/7 and you wanted her to be president.
 
Embarrassment, embarrassment...
It's almost as though you have read how the rest of the world is viewing the impeachment events in the senate. Even your very staunchest allies, the Australians, are embarrassed by the happenings.

Even your very staunchest allies, the Australians, are embarrassed by the happenings.

Yes, everyone sees the foolish Dems.
 
From the Russia gate to the Kavanaugh false accusations and then to the shampeachment. What is next?

To those who are not yet participating in an American party, do you believe the impeachment was a good idea? President Trump won again, didn't he?

What is the thought process behind the choices the party is making? Hate is going to defeat president Trump, no good candidates required?
No choice. They had to do their constitutional duty.

Too bad none of the republicans did theirs.
 
There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

Correction: Trump has committed no crime. The democrat tactic of trying to get someone removed for not committing a crime is a other brilliant one.
The above post is a lie.
 
There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

Correction: Trump has committed no crime. The democrat tactic of trying to get someone removed for not committing a crime is a other brilliant one.
The above post is a lie.

It is correct Creepitus.

Are you planning to impeach Trump... again?
 
There was not much of a choice.... they were left with no choice when the DOJ refused to investigate the complaints of staffers who reported the CHEATING, and lawlessness.....

Trump was always going to get off, for his high crimes.... but History, facts, what was done by him, needed to be recorded..... And it was.....

Correction: Trump has committed no crime. The democrat tactic of trying to get someone removed for not committing a crime is a other brilliant one.
The above post is a lie.

It is correct Creepitus.

Are you planning to impeach Trump... again?

Once again, Rump shows that he wants America to be divided and continue to burn. I watched his little Whitehouse Get together Speech and it was all about how he was mistreated, how nasty the Democrats are, and how he is going to get even. Not one mention of "Let's help heal America". It's not over, far from it. The Dems may have to reopen the impeachment because Rump's band of criminals would rather burn America to the ground rather than work to help heal America. When Clinton gave his speech after acquittal, he talked about putting all behind us and working to heal America. Rump just wants to light more buildings on fire.
 
Once again, Rump shows that he wants America to be divided and continue to burn.

Liar, its the left who seek to divide us. ^^^ the liberal projection is off the charts.

The Impeachment is over and done with. Rump has announced the investigations have just begun. He's going after anyone and everyone that he sees as part of the Impeachment. There is going to be no "Healing of America". It's going to be "Let's burn it to the Ground". It's all about Rump. You have already screwed up by believing that Rump IS America and without Rump there can be no America. America isn't just one person.



Not one mention of working to heal America. He hinted to this and then goes back to attacking. He has announced the grueling investigations (most are unfounded to begin with) using the Executive cheat on yet another election year. What this does is refires the Impeachment Program because he's out of control. When he should be working to put America (All of America) back together, he's out for revenge. If he is reelected, he's going right back in for impeachment because he's left many people no other choice.

We need to a President that will work to help America Heal not one that is willing to burn it to the ground out of of revenge. But I think that choice is now the "The Party of the Rumps". You can work to heal America or you can continue to burn it to the ground. Well, America is on fire and it's up to the President to work to heal those wounds. Rump is just lighting more fires and misusing his office to continue to go after more revenge. I think he's going to be impeached again if he's reelected because the revenge he is doing will Definitely have a negative affect on the 2020 election for President.

Much like his false Biden charges and impeachable actions have all but removed Biden from contention. No matter how illegal those actions are, Rump believes he got away with it and it's effective. Now comes his long string of "Here, Hold my Beer" moments that many of us knew were to come at a time when Rump should be working to "Heal" America. Instead, Rump continues with his revenged, both real and imagined. I'll say it again, if he's reelected, he's going to be impeached again and he's going to make history as the ONLY President to be Impeached twice.
 
our fight against the Cult of Trump is just getting started, my friends!

Call it self defense. When Rump should be talking about Healing America he's preaching "Revenge". Rump thinks he got away with the Biden thing. He's right, he did. But Rump, being Rump, .......................

So only Dems can seek revenge and attack Trump? :eusa_hand: The old Dem double standard ladies and gentlemen.
 

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