Denier Stalinism: Mandatory psych evals for scientists who say "global warming"

[jc456]

Does ANYONE here have a word of defense for the actions of Florida governor Rick Scott as detailed in the OP?

Yes.

It's a Cult that need to be handled as such

So you believe that censorship is the appropriate way to conduct scientific investigation and that it is proper for government to ban the dissemination of widely held scientific opinion regarding matters of enormous public interest.

Are you suggesting that the world's scientists constitute a cult?

It's exactly what is going on today in the media and left politicians. Hmmmmm, amazing how you don't like that. Yer don't call those idiots out!

 

[Roadrunner]

It doesn't go far enough, we need to deprogram the entire batshit crazy, anti-science AGWCult

Science is not done by "Consensus" that's Cult-speak

That the Universe revolves around the Earth was once "settled science".

 

[Roadrunner]

I was watching the Weather Channel this morning and they were showing an animated clip of the sun not following the Equator because the Earth has tilted on it's axis, bringing the North Pole closer to the sun. The meteorologists weren't even talking about global warming or climate change but about the polar ice melting because the sun was nearer because of the tilt.
Now I am waiting for some washed up politician to become Al Gore-rich by convincing the Leftbrains that the earth is going to tilt until it's upside down.

ahh.... hoss the earth tilts on it's axis 4 time a year we call that the seasons.

Axis Tilt is Critical for Life

The tilt of the Earth's spin axis with respect to the plane of its orbit about the sun (the ecliptic plane) is important for a habitable Earth. The Earth's spin axis is tilted 23.5° with respect to the ecliptic, giving moderate seasons and preventing temperature extremes anywhere on the planet.

This illustration, patterned after Ward and Brownlee, summarizes the effects of different tilt angles with respect to the ecliptic plane. The lines parallel to the equator are the polar circles where the sun never sets in midsummer and never rises in midwinter.

The tilt angles range from zero for Mercury to 90 degrees for Uranus. Both extremes produce drastic temperature differences across the planet. Mercury, close to the Sun and tidally locked to having the same face toward the Sun all the time, ranges from extreme heat at the equator to ice at the poles. But for angles above 54 degrees, the poles get more energy than the equator. "Although our viewpoint is certainly biased, our planet's tilt axis seems to be 'just right'". (Ward and Brownlee)
Not only is the Earth's angle of tilt close to the optimum value, it also seems to have been essentially constant. That is crucial for the development of advanced life. Since there are torques which could have caused the axis direction to change, it appears to have been the stabilizing effect of the Moon that has kept the spin axis in a stable direction to provide a stable climate for life.

Axis Tilt is Critical for Life

I was aware of that but the Weather Channel guys were talking about a permanent shift of 3 0r 4 degrees on top of the normal tilt. Could be caused by the many earthquakes in the past few years. I don't know if Gore's scientists take that into consideration.

they'd then blame humans anyway for being too heavy.

Speaking of heavy humans, it is a wonder the Edmund Pettus Bridge could support the crowd gathered for the 50th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday.

What a fat-ass nation we have become in 50 years.

 

[Freewill]

I was watching the Weather Channel this morning and they were showing an animated clip of the sun not following the Equator because the Earth has tilted on it's axis, bringing the North Pole closer to the sun. The meteorologists weren't even talking about global warming or climate change but about the polar ice melting because the sun was nearer because of the tilt.
Now I am waiting for some washed up politician to become Al Gore-rich by convincing the Leftbrains that the earth is going to tilt until it's upside down.

ahh.... hoss the earth tilts on it's axis 4 time a year we call that the seasons.

Axis Tilt is Critical for Life

The tilt of the Earth's spin axis with respect to the plane of its orbit about the sun (the ecliptic plane) is important for a habitable Earth. The Earth's spin axis is tilted 23.5° with respect to the ecliptic, giving moderate seasons and preventing temperature extremes anywhere on the planet.

This illustration, patterned after Ward and Brownlee, summarizes the effects of different tilt angles with respect to the ecliptic plane. The lines parallel to the equator are the polar circles where the sun never sets in midsummer and never rises in midwinter.

The tilt angles range from zero for Mercury to 90 degrees for Uranus. Both extremes produce drastic temperature differences across the planet. Mercury, close to the Sun and tidally locked to having the same face toward the Sun all the time, ranges from extreme heat at the equator to ice at the poles. But for angles above 54 degrees, the poles get more energy than the equator. "Although our viewpoint is certainly biased, our planet's tilt axis seems to be 'just right'". (Ward and Brownlee)
Not only is the Earth's angle of tilt close to the optimum value, it also seems to have been essentially constant. That is crucial for the development of advanced life. Since there are torques which could have caused the axis direction to change, it appears to have been the stabilizing effect of the Moon that has kept the spin axis in a stable direction to provide a stable climate for life.

Axis Tilt is Critical for Life

I was aware of that but the Weather Channel guys were talking about a permanent shift of 3 0r 4 degrees on top of the normal tilt. Could be caused by the many earthquakes in the past few years. I don't know if Gore's scientists take that into consideration.

they'd then blame humans anyway for being too heavy.

Speaking of heavy humans, it is a wonder the Edmund Pettus Bridge could support the crowd gathered for the 50th Anniversary of Bloody Sunday.

What a fat-ass nation we have become in 50 years.

Interesting that you say that. Seems that when they had the first celebration for the Golden Gate bridge the amount of pedestrians they allowed on the bridge far exceeded the weight of the traffic usually on the bridge. The strain on the bridge was such they feared a collapse. The bridge deck actually went straight instead of bowed.

 

[mamooth]

Can we get back to my thread topic? That would be the Stalinist tactics that the deniers are so proudly using, and the way that not a single denier here is bothered by such tactics.

Now, Frank here has openly and enthusiastically supported the Stalinist tactics. He's a proud goosestepper, and wants the whole planet to know it.

Anyone else feel the same as Frank, or would you other deniers rather just quietly support the Stalinism? We already know no denier will criticize it. Deniers either support their cult's thuggery, or they're too scared of the punishment they'd receive from their own cult if they dared criticized their cult's Stalinism.

 

[Freewill]

Can we get back to my thread topic? That would be the Stalinist tactics that the deniers are so proudly using, and the way that not a single denier here is bothered by such tactics.

Now, Frank here has openly and enthusiastically supported the Stalinist tactics. He's a proud goosestepper, and wants the whole planet to know it.

Anyone else feel the same as Frank, or would you other deniers rather just quietly support the Stalinism? We already know no denier will criticize it. Deniers either support their cult's thuggery, or they're too scared of the punishment they'd receive from their own cult if they dared criticized their cult's Stalinism.

Why would anyone wish to discuss this with you? So you can call them a denier? Use words like cult? WTF start discussion like a thinking adult and I think your results may be better.

 

[jc456]

Can we get back to my thread topic? That would be the Stalinist tactics that the deniers are so proudly using, and the way that not a single denier here is bothered by such tactics.

Now, Frank here has openly and enthusiastically supported the Stalinist tactics. He's a proud goosestepper, and wants the whole planet to know it.

Anyone else feel the same as Frank, or would you other deniers rather just quietly support the Stalinism? We already know no denier will criticize it. Deniers either support their cult's thuggery, or they're too scared of the punishment they'd receive from their own cult if they dared criticized their cult's Stalinism.

Explain to me Stalinistic tactics

 

[mamooth]

1. It was a stalinist tactic to declare certain speech to be forbidden

2. It was a stalinist tactic to declare that political enemies were mentally ill and thus had to be institutionalized.

 

[mamooth]

Why would anyone wish to discuss this with you? So you can call them a denier? Use words like cult? WTF start discussion like a thinking adult and I think your results may be better.

I thought they might want to discuss because they would oppose Stalinist tactics.

My bad.

 

[jc456]

1. It was a stalinist tactic to declare certain speech to be forbidden

2. It was a stalinist tactic to declare that political enemies were mentally ill and thus had to be institutionalized.

Well exactly what do you consider that in this forum? Oh yeah using the word 'denier'. Right? Meaning what you do consistently here. Can you say hypocrite?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Does ANYONE here have a word of defense for the actions of Florida governor Rick Scott as detailed in the OP?

Yes.

It's a Cult that need to be handled as such

So you believe that censorship is the appropriate way to conduct scientific investigation and that it is proper for government to ban the dissemination of widely held scientific opinion regarding matters of enormous public interest.

Are you suggesting that the world's scientists constitute a cult?

Isn't this the pot calling the kettle black.... This behavior is only acceptable if YOUR DOING IT...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Why would anyone wish to discuss this with you? So you can call them a denier? Use words like cult? WTF start discussion like a thinking adult and I think your results may be better.

I thought they might want to discuss because they would oppose Stalinist tactics.

My bad.

What a load of horse manure...

Were not the ones demanding trillions of unearned monies for non-problems while we fear-monger and lie about fake problems designed to get people to give up their freedoms willingly. At some point the people wake up and just as they did to Stalin they take up arms to rid themselves of the left wing statist/socialist/Stalinist/Marxist crap..

Again your op deflects your own behavior and implies that someone else is doing what it is ALARMISTS ARE DOING..

The People are waking up... The policies are designed to kill millions.. Are you expecting a different outcome than history has shown over and over again?

 

[jc456]

Why would anyone wish to discuss this with you? So you can call them a denier? Use words like cult? WTF start discussion like a thinking adult and I think your results may be better.

I thought they might want to discuss because they would oppose Stalinist tactics.

My bad.

What a load of horse manure...

Were not the ones demanding trillions of unearned monies for non-problems while we fear-monger and lie about fake problems designed to get people to give up their freedoms willingly. At some point the people wake up and just as they did to Stalin they take up arms to rid themselves of the left wing satirist/socialist/Stalinist/Marxist crap..

Again your op deflects your own behavior and implies that someone else is doing what it is ALARMISTS ARE DOING..

The People are waking up... The policies are designed to kill millions.. Are you expecting a different outcome than history has shown over and over again?

Right? Call your own self out and then deny it . That's why there is no respect for it!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Can we get back to my thread topic? That would be the Stalinist tactics that the deniers are so proudly using, and the way that not a single denier here is bothered by such tactics.

Now, Frank here has openly and enthusiastically supported the Stalinist tactics. He's a proud goosestepper, and wants the whole planet to know it.

Anyone else feel the same as Frank, or would you other deniers rather just quietly support the Stalinism? We already know no denier will criticize it. Deniers either support their cult's thuggery, or they're too scared of the punishment they'd receive from their own cult if they dared criticized their cult's Stalinism.

You started a flame thread.. You never wanted debate, you wanted an echo chamber of left wing radical bull shit. You cant debate a moron and an idiot.

 

[Dot Com]

Why would anyone wish to discuss this with you? So you can call them a denier? Use words like cult? WTF start discussion like a thinking adult and I think your results may be better.

I thought they might want to discuss because they would oppose Stalinist tactics.

My bad.

Sadly, looks like you were right about denier group-think.

 

[Billy_Bob]

This is what happens when the denier Stalinist thugs get political power.

In Florida Officials Ban Term Climate Change Florida Center for Investigative Reporting
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DEP officials have been ordered not to use the term “climate change” or “global warming” in any official communications, emails, or reports, according to former DEP employees, consultants, volunteers and records obtained by the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting.
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And should an EnemyOfTheParty dare contradict DearLeader, they will be suspended and ordered to get a medical evaluation

Rick Scott climate change gag order claims first victim enviro group says - SaintPetersBlog
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DEP superiors directed Bibler to remove any “hot button issues,” such as explicit references to climate change. The letter of reprimand, dated March 9, accused Bibler of misrepresenting the “official meeting agenda (so it) included climate change.”

Bibler was instructed to take two days off, which was charged against his personal leave time. He later received a “Medical Release Form” requiring his doctor to provide the agency an evaluation of unspecified “medical condition and behavior” before being allowed to return to work.
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Deniers, you don't have to chime in. We already know you all support this. Scratch a denier, find a Stalinist. You're all basically working out of Stalin's playbook.

SO liberals dont want real SCIENCE used in our government. They simply want dogma and cult as long as its theirs..

 

[Freewill]

Hey mamooth, this was in your very OP: Deniers, you don't have to chime in. We already know you all support this. Scratch a denier, find a Stalinist. You're all basically working out of Stalin's playbook.

Sounds like, using YOUR words, you didn't want people chiming in. Then calling people Stalinists, yeah you wanted debate alright....yep....OK..... Don't worry whatever you post dot com with bleat in agreement.

 

[daws101]

Republican Campaign Ads Fear-Mongering Over ISIS Threat

The threat of terrorism is once again being featured on the campaign trail.

Republicans in particular are putting America's military conflict in the Middle East front and center in television ads less than two months before the midterm elections, calling into question their opponents' willingness to confront Islamic State extremists that beheaded two U.S. journalists earlier this summer.

One of the latest examples comes from Iowa's competitive 3rd Congressional District, where a new spot produced by the National Republican Congressional Committee on behalf of David Young (R) attacks former state Sen. Staci Appel (D) for opposing efforts that would strip American extremists of their passports.

"David Young would be tough on terrorists," the ad says. "Staci Appel is dangerously wrong for Iowa."


Revoking passports of U.S. citizens who sign on as fighters with the Islamic State is an idea that has some support in Congress, but there is concern among the intelligence community that the tactic would impede how the U.S. gathers information on possible threats abroad.

Another ad produced by the NRCC earlier this month portrays incumbent Rep. Rick Nolan (D-Minn.) as soft on terror. "Rick Nolan voted to cut funds for the fight against al Qaeda," says the ad's narrator.

Islamic State militants even made cameos in several Senate races. An ad cut for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) earlier this month suggests that Democrat Alison Lundergan Grimes is unprepared to handle "serious times," such as the extremists that appear at the outset of the ad. Over in the Georgia Senate race, Republican David Perdue is taking flack for a dubious ad that linked Democrat Michelle Nunn to "terrorists." Another Perdue ad suggests support for immigration reform is somehow related to the Islamic State. And a spot from Republican New Mexico Senate candidate Allen Weh drew criticism last month for including an image from the gruesome execution of American journalist James Foley. Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) sent out a fundraising email this week titled "Fighting ISIS" that declared, "In a dangerous world, we need Thad Cochran in the Senate now more than ever."

Democrats on Thursday accused Republicans of stooping to "Karl Rove's scare tactics" in an effort to expand their majority in the House.

"With their own anti-middle class agenda leading to record low approval ratings, House Republicans are resorting to Karl Rove's scare tactics. It's a shame that at a time when our nation is facing real threats abroad and economic challenges at home, the NRCC would stoop to these lows just to try to win seats," said Josh Schwerin, a spokesman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

That's not to say that Democrats haven't preyed on fears over turbulent world events. Arkansas Sen. Mark Pryor's (D) re-election campaign hit his Republican opponent for voting to cut emergency programs by running an ad centered on the growing Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

Republican Campaign Ads Fear-Mongering Over ISIS Threat

LOL, I see you have no understanding of a real threat eh? Keep claiming that fake climate crap though!! Hypocrit.

I call you on your bullshit and I'm a hypocrite?.......that's a contradiction...

 

[HenryBHough]

Where is Janet Reno when Algore's cult needs cleansing?

 

[mamooth]

Thread summary:

Not a single denier was willing to criticize their side's Stalinist tactics.

As expected. Also as expected, they came up with some fine "but ... you were mean, so that means it's okay if we use Stalinist tactics!" excuses.

Like I said, it's not that they're active Stalinists (except for Frank). It's that they're frightened herdbeasts. They just don't dare criticize their own cult, ever, no matter how badly their cult acts.