The transcript show that Xiden wanted regime change in Iraq.Sadly, when Xiden was in the Executive, as VP, and had a free and stable...Saddam free Iraq, with numerous nations in a coalition supporting him, he turned his back on the nation building aspect in an election year for political gain
Since Iraq was in all appearance as free and stable and perhaps more so as it was in December 2008 when DUBYA handed off the US&UK ill-prepared and ill-conceived Iraqi Nation Building REGIME CHANGE Project that you support to this day, Oh Catholic man, hear ye this:
In 2003 Biden warned Bush’s officials in the JANUARY 30 Senate HEARING not to do REGIME CHANGE in haste and unprepared for nation building and not without the world and the United Nations with you and committed 100 percent.
So when you say that Biden turned his back on Bush’s nation building project in 2009 You must be nuts
You keep saying the “US&UK ill-prepared and ill-conceived Iraqi Nation Building REGIME CHANGE Project” turned out to be a huge success that was handed off to Obama and Biden in 2009. So a big part of that nation building success was for Biden and Obama being able to withdraw all US troops from Iraq by 2011.
So they did the correct follow through on nation building and the United nations were behind them.
You have cherry picked things that Biden said in that January 30 hearing to identify him as a warmonger for supporting what Bush decided to do. To do as Biden warned in haste, not prepared and without worldwide support.
So tell me what did Biden turn his back on by throwing combat troops remain free and stable Iraq and respect for the sovereignty that was agonizingly achieved in 2008? Agonizingly because Bush did not listen to Joe Biden in 2003 as he would have been wise to do. Let the injectors have more time to be certain the evidence for a case of justifying preemptive regime change is rock solid sand the case for war has worldwide support.
Biden was ignored and Bush lied to invade
HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS UNITED STATES SENATE JANUARY 30, 2003 NFBWSEN108JAN30IRAQ1
struth Yesterday at 1:13 PM
And this exchange with Xiden...where Xiden is making the case to overthrow Saddam:
The administration officials, including the President on Tuesday night, have repeatedly asserted that the Iraqi
Government maintains ties with members
of the al-Qaeda network.
Are you able to tell us what evidence you have to support that claim? And as a follow-on to that, why is it that we spend, it seems, so much time on making the assertions that are the least--or the most difficult to prove, including the aluminum tubes, when we have such overwhelming evidence of the failure of Iraq to comply with the existence--or with 1441? It seems to undercut our case. We lead with the two things that may be true, but are the most difficult to prove, and we seem not do
what you guys did here today, very compellingly talk about VX, anthrax, things we know.So it is a two-part question. One, what evidence, if youare able to share with us, is there about direct connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda? And two, what is the rationale for how we have been leading thus far, and will it change with the evidence we are presenting?
Mr. Armitage: Thank you, sir. On the question of al-Qaeda, in this forum, I will say that it is clear that al-Qaeda is
harbored to some extent in Iraq, that there is a presence in Iraq. There are other indications of some--a recent assassination of our diplomat in Amman, Mr. Foley, that was apparently orchestrated by an al-Qaeda member who is resident in Baghdad.
Having said that, I am not making the case here that this is a 9/11 connection, but I will make the case that the President has made consistently, sir, and that is that it is the thirst for the weapons of mass destruction and our belief that if Saddam Hussein can pass them to people who will do us ill without being caught, he will do it. That gives us so much concern. And this will be part of the information that Secretary Powell is going to impart in some more detail. They are busy back home right now trying to declassify as much as possible to give him a pretty full case.
On the question of why we spend so much time on things that are difficult to prove, I do not know. Perhaps, particularly on the aluminum tubes, we miscalculated. Clearly, there is a difference of opinion in the intelligence community, which we
came up and briefed forthrightly and, indeed, deliberately.
Senator Biden. I agree, you did.
Mr. Armitage. Well, the reason we did it deliberately was to show you we are not playing hide-the-bacon here. I believe that, as I indicated to Senator Hagel the other day in a conversation, that the view is shifting on this more to the side that this has a relationship to nuclear activities, rather than rocket motors. But perhaps we miscalculated. And I take your comments as a sign to, as we used to say in the Navy, ``KISS''--``Keep it simple, sailor''--go with your--go with your----
Senator Biden. Strongest case.
Mr. Armitage. Yes, your strong points.
You are a liar because you wholeheartedly support to this very day, Bush’s unnecessary decision on March 17 2003 to unilaterally remove 200 UNSC weapons inspections to launch a ground invasion to depose Saddam HUSSEIN in the false grounds that chec was actively at the time .. as quoted “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” DUBYA the DECIDER March 17 2003.
I don't really know if Iraq was more or less free and stable in 08, then 2011. Doesn't really matter. All I know is in 2011 Obama said it was.