Disrespect for the office of the Presidency

[hortysir]

Anyone remember the routine insults the Left heaped on Bush? The Office of the President is fair game for ridicule now and forever more. That is now part of the job description.

My cousin, way more liberal than I am, met Bush and shook his hand. I have no problem with people calling out Presidents on their policies. But when you emphasize middle names (Hussein), and claim that the President ordered the killing of Americans (Benghazi); then that's completely disrespectful.

Calling himself Barry is totally cool though


And I'm gonna need a link for the bolded portion

 

[Pogo]

no you didn't, you just picked on one PERSON..

I didn't mention ANY person.

by the action of those who sit in it of course

No, that's how those who sit in it earn. How does the office "earn"?

you need to ask the whiners and Obama cult members of these types of threads how the " office" earns disrespect..

I think that's what I just did.

without a president there is no office of the presidency

the office is only as good as the person sitting in it

Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

 

[Stephanie]

no you didn't, you just picked on one PERSON..

I didn't mention ANY person.

No, that's how those who sit in it earn. How does the office "earn"?



I think that's what I just did.

without a president there is no office of the presidency

the office is only as good as the person sitting in it

Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

omg, the games...
play with him if you like Jon...I wouldn't..

 

[Pogo]

no you didn't, you just picked on one PERSON..

I didn't mention ANY person.

without a president there is no office of the presidency

the office is only as good as the person sitting in it

Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

omg, the games...
play with him if you like Jon...I wouldn't..

Sometimes I ask a question that can't be answered. The point is that that unanswerability reveals that you're standing on fallacious ground.

Think about it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

no you didn't, you just picked on one PERSON..

I didn't mention ANY person.

without a president there is no office of the presidency

the office is only as good as the person sitting in it

Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

omg, the games...
play with him if you like Jon...I wouldn't..

he is ok

 

[Stephanie]

I didn't mention ANY person.



Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

omg, the games...
play with him if you like Jon...I wouldn't..

he is ok

ok, I'm off for the night
good nite all...

 

[jon_berzerk]

omg, the games...
play with him if you like Jon...I wouldn't..

he is ok

ok, I'm off for the night
good nite all...

you have a good night

 

[Darkwind]

Building off of another thread...

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.
4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.

7. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer puts her finger in the President’s face (January 2012). The photo speaks for itself. Of course there are strong political disagreements between President Obama and Gov. Brewer. But is it just possible there was a better time and place for this conversation? Brewer said she felt “a little threatened” by President Obama. Please.

8. GOP House, prompted by Tea Party — refuses to raise debt ceiling (Aug 2011). Sounds like this was just hardball politics right? Let’s review the facts: The debt ceiling had been raised 69 times since 1962 without incident. Seven times during Bush II and 18 times during Reagan. Suddenly, with President Obama, a shiny new precedent is set with regard to raising the debt ceiling. Another never before seen incident is born.

9. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Publicly Announces His Top Political Priority (Dec 2010). McConnell wants the President out of office? No news there, but, wait, there’s more to it. “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term,” Sen. McConnell told the Heritage Foundation. Of course the Senate Republican Leader doesn’t want the President to be re-elected. But what’s with the public announcement? In July 2010 McConnell acknowledged his single most important political goal: President Obama being a one-term President. Again: In public and on national television.

10. Speaker Boehner refuses speech date request (September 2011). No it is not the end of the world. Of course, the White House intentionally wanted to step on a GOP debate that same night. But, this is yet another first in American history. Once again, no one can find another instance where a President of the United States requested a date to address Congress and was refused.

All indignant insults against the most prestigious office in the world. I guess some people weren't raised right.

Archie Hackney, WW2 veteran, refused to stay seated upon meeting the President. Thank you for your service Mr. Hackney.

Meet Archie Hackney | The Fifth Column

I respect the will of the people. That is NOT found in the office of the President.

The disrespect for the office of the President began long ago, when it was decided that a Unitarian President was not acceptable with a Republican in the office seat, but became very respectable when a Democrat became President.

I submit to you that your premise is flawed. The office of President serves to enforce the laws passed by Congress and to act as the head of our country TO THE REST OF THE WORLD. The entire office is based upon who sits in the chair.

I may be that the office was created prior to an origianal occupant, but the role and responsibilities have not changed. Washington made the office good, Lincoln tarnished it, Kennedy made it cheap and Obama has turned it into a joke.

I'll respect the office when a man befitting the position is elected.

That will require a man who puts the country (not the people) ahead of his own personal ambitions.

Can you name a Prez that has done that?

 

[whitehall]

Building off of another thread...

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.
4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.

7. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer puts her finger in the President’s face (January 2012). The photo speaks for itself. Of course there are strong political disagreements between President Obama and Gov. Brewer. But is it just possible there was a better time and place for this conversation? Brewer said she felt “a little threatened” by President Obama. Please.

8. GOP House, prompted by Tea Party — refuses to raise debt ceiling (Aug 2011). Sounds like this was just hardball politics right? Let’s review the facts: The debt ceiling had been raised 69 times since 1962 without incident. Seven times during Bush II and 18 times during Reagan. Suddenly, with President Obama, a shiny new precedent is set with regard to raising the debt ceiling. Another never before seen incident is born.

9. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Publicly Announces His Top Political Priority (Dec 2010). McConnell wants the President out of office? No news there, but, wait, there’s more to it. “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term,” Sen. McConnell told the Heritage Foundation. Of course the Senate Republican Leader doesn’t want the President to be re-elected. But what’s with the public announcement? In July 2010 McConnell acknowledged his single most important political goal: President Obama being a one-term President. Again: In public and on national television.

10. Speaker Boehner refuses speech date request (September 2011). No it is not the end of the world. Of course, the White House intentionally wanted to step on a GOP debate that same night. But, this is yet another first in American history. Once again, no one can find another instance where a President of the United States requested a date to address Congress and was refused.

All indignant insults against the most prestigious office in the world. I guess some people weren't raised right.

Archie Hackney, WW2 veteran, refused to stay seated upon meeting the President. Thank you for your service Mr. Hackney.

Meet Archie Hackney | The Fifth Column

A Constitutional requirement for the job of POTUS is absolute proof that the candidate was born in the USA. Most Americans couldn't get a high security clearance with the reproduced junk that Barry Hussein furnished. When is the left ever going to stop whining about the gentle treatment the socialist president is getting from the right wing? Remember what the left did to the former president?

 

[jon_berzerk]

no you didn't, you just picked on one PERSON..

I didn't mention ANY person.

No, that's how those who sit in it earn. How does the office "earn"?



I think that's what I just did.

without a president there is no office of the presidency

the office is only as good as the person sitting in it

Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

yes you can play footzy all you want but that it what it is

and yes every four years there is poll taken to see who is responsible carrying out the

laws of the land

 

[Pogo]

Building off of another thread...

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.
4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.

7. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer puts her finger in the President’s face (January 2012). The photo speaks for itself. Of course there are strong political disagreements between President Obama and Gov. Brewer. But is it just possible there was a better time and place for this conversation? Brewer said she felt “a little threatened” by President Obama. Please.

8. GOP House, prompted by Tea Party — refuses to raise debt ceiling (Aug 2011). Sounds like this was just hardball politics right? Let’s review the facts: The debt ceiling had been raised 69 times since 1962 without incident. Seven times during Bush II and 18 times during Reagan. Suddenly, with President Obama, a shiny new precedent is set with regard to raising the debt ceiling. Another never before seen incident is born.

9. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Publicly Announces His Top Political Priority (Dec 2010). McConnell wants the President out of office? No news there, but, wait, there’s more to it. “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term,” Sen. McConnell told the Heritage Foundation. Of course the Senate Republican Leader doesn’t want the President to be re-elected. But what’s with the public announcement? In July 2010 McConnell acknowledged his single most important political goal: President Obama being a one-term President. Again: In public and on national television.

10. Speaker Boehner refuses speech date request (September 2011). No it is not the end of the world. Of course, the White House intentionally wanted to step on a GOP debate that same night. But, this is yet another first in American history. Once again, no one can find another instance where a President of the United States requested a date to address Congress and was refused.

All indignant insults against the most prestigious office in the world. I guess some people weren't raised right.

Archie Hackney, WW2 veteran, refused to stay seated upon meeting the President. Thank you for your service Mr. Hackney.

Meet Archie Hackney | The Fifth Column

I respect the will of the people. That is NOT found in the office of the President.

The disrespect for the office of the President began long ago, when it was decided that a Unitarian President was not acceptable with a Republican in the office seat, but became very respectable when a Democrat became President.

Whaaaa?

Taft?

 

[Pogo]

A Constitutional requirement for the job of POTUS is absolute proof that the candidate was born in the USA. Most Americans couldn't get a high security clearance with the reproduced junk that Barry Hussein furnished. When is the left ever going to stop whining about the gentle treatment the socialist president is getting from the right wing? Remember what the left did to the former president?

No. What was it?
Demanded his birth certificate?
Cried "you lie" during an address to Congress?

Who's complaining about "gentle treatment"?

By the way learn your Constitution. It says nothing about what constitutes "proof".
What time today did you first arrive in this country?

 

[Pogo]

no you didn't, you just picked on one PERSON..

I didn't mention ANY person.

without a president there is no office of the presidency

the office is only as good as the person sitting in it

Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

yes you can play footzy all you want but that it what it is

and yes every four years there is poll taken to see who is responsible carrying out the

laws of the land

You know that makes no sense -- right?

No, we don't elect a level of respect every four years; we elect a President. You're actually suggesting the meaning of that Office varies wildly depending on what you think of who's in it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

I didn't mention ANY person.



Of course there is. The office was created before anyone sat in it. At that moment it earned respect.

You're suggesting that the office's respect comes and goes depending on who's in it?
Based on what? The polls at the time?

yes you can play footzy all you want but that it what it is

and yes every four years there is poll taken to see who is responsible carrying out the

laws of the land

You know that makes no sense -- right?

No, we don't elect a level of respect every four years; we elect a President. You're actually suggesting the meaning of that Office varies wildly depending on what you think of who's in it.

once again respect is earned it is not automatic by the person

sitting in the office

the Constitution is clear it refers to the office as "his" office

 

[Wildman]

Has nothing to do with the office...everything to do with the moron occupying it.

Completely missing the point

yes you are, and why ? the son-of-a-bitch is a total failure as an American Constitutional president.., the muslime mulatto MF'er is a presidunce

 

[Pogo]

yes you can play footzy all you want but that it what it is

and yes every four years there is poll taken to see who is responsible carrying out the

laws of the land

You know that makes no sense -- right?

No, we don't elect a level of respect every four years; we elect a President. You're actually suggesting the meaning of that Office varies wildly depending on what you think of who's in it.

once again respect is earned it is not automatic by the person

sitting in the office

the Constitution is clear it refers to the office as "his" office

OK well apparently you're moving your own goalposts so I will assume you're abandoning the original point that "respect for the office is earned".

Would have saved time to just say that.

Cheers.

 

[jon_berzerk]

You know that makes no sense -- right?

No, we don't elect a level of respect every four years; we elect a President. You're actually suggesting the meaning of that Office varies wildly depending on what you think of who's in it.

once again respect is earned it is not automatic by the person

sitting in the office

the Constitution is clear it refers to the office as "his" office

OK well apparently you're moving your own goalposts so I will assume you're abandoning the original point that "respect for the office is earned".

Would have saved time to just say that.

Cheers.

it is earned

 

[Darkwind]

Building off of another thread...

All indignant insults against the most prestigious office in the world. I guess some people weren't raised right.

Archie Hackney, WW2 veteran, refused to stay seated upon meeting the President. Thank you for your service Mr. Hackney.

Meet Archie Hackney | The Fifth Column

I respect the will of the people. That is NOT found in the office of the President.

The disrespect for the office of the President began long ago, when it was decided that a Unitarian President was not acceptable with a Republican in the office seat, but became very respectable when a Democrat became President.

Whaaaa?

Taft?

clueless are you?

It is called the 'White House".

not

The peoples house.

Care to take a wild guess at which part of government is called 'The Peoples House"?

 

[Pogo]

I respect the will of the people. That is NOT found in the office of the President.

The disrespect for the office of the President began long ago, when it was decided that a Unitarian President was not acceptable with a Republican in the office seat, but became very respectable when a Democrat became President.

Whaaaa?

Taft?

clueless are you?

It is called the 'White House".

not

The peoples house.

Care to take a wild guess at which part of government is called 'The Peoples House"?

I am.
Where the fuck do you see "Unitarians"?

 

[Pogo]

once again respect is earned it is not automatic by the person

sitting in the office

the Constitution is clear it refers to the office as "his" office

OK well apparently you're moving your own goalposts so I will assume you're abandoning the original point that "respect for the office is earned".

Would have saved time to just say that.

Cheers.

it is earned

Then you're talking in circles. If you can't explain your point ........ you don't have one.