Do gays choose to be gay? How can we refuse equal rights?

[bigrebnc1775]

I propose that gay people utilize their right to bear arms to defend their rights from people who wish to deprive them of those rights.

They have every right to exercise their liberty...but out of sight and CEASE forcing the rest of us to accept it.

Clear?

What’s ‘clear’ is your ignorance, stupidity, and hate.

The right of homosexuals to ‘exercise their liberty’ means that they don’t have to exist in hiding, as advocated by many on the intolerant right, they may express themselves as homosexuals in the open, free from fear of reprisal.

And expressing oneself openly as gay in no way compels anyone to ‘accept’ homosexuality.

You’re at liberty to maintain your ignorance and hate concerning homosexuals, but you are not at liberty to attempt to codify that ignorance and hate.

pedophiles have rights to don't they? family members have rights to marry each other they don't? or are you selective of who you think has rights?

 

[healthmyths]

Anyone see Stephen Colbert last night? They went to Vicco, Kentucky. Smallest town in KY. They have a gay mayor, and just passed a "fairness ordinance" regarding gays. The townsfolk were what you'd expect. Rural, country, deep drawl accents. But surprisingly- or not- they were mostly all in favor of it, and supportive of their mayor. One guy....who was a bit slow speaking and country, nothing wrong with that- put it so clearly and simple: "If God made 'em that way, how can the Bible say its wrong? Why'd he make 'em that way?" It was the best argument I've heard.

So, let me ask, did God make them that way? If so, how can He, or we, judge them?

Now, lets say you are gonna argue God did NOT make them that way. That they CHOSE. That would mean the rest of use CHOSE to be attracted to women, right? Wouldn't that suggest that gays and straights- like all you right wingers who oppose gay rights- have a 50/50 attraction to men/women, and you too just chose the opposite sex?

And as for God...does he make us or not? If our rights cannot be granted by the government, but instead, are "God given"....................like the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms..........and God makes us, then why is it that God made some humans to be born in a country where His rights are granted, but condemns other humans he makes to be born in places like N Korea that deny the rights that are God given by Him?

Unless you want to argue God created the world, but, then stepped away and let nature and humanity run it's course, and therefore, doesn't interfere with genetic deformities, mental illness, birth defects, OR things like a human being born with a sexual attraction to the same sex.

I guess you have NEVER asked the question, how do species reproduce?

I also guess you've NEVER realize that human females generally have less then only about 400 eggs that will ever mature.
Women and their eggs: How many and for how long? | Go Ask Alice!

Men on the other hand have in the average ejaculation contains close to 100 million sperm; according to the World Health Organization.
Sperm: How Long Sperm Live, Sperm Count, and More

So if almost ALL humans reproduce by have male/female sexual relations.

So let me ask you.
If God told us to be fruitful and multiply how can that be possible if there is no reproductive sexual relations, i.e. same sex having sex?

There is NO question that there are some .. VERY VERY few that are born with the "I gotta be me" gene.
And of course you obviously don't know about a concept known as "Darwin's survival of the fittest"!

So simply put for a simple mind... IF God made queers God have a second way of reproducing... so far doesn't seem to exist for one
simple reason.. only females of humans have the equipment to nurture a fetus.

SO if there is NO way two same sex gays can reproduce, then the ONLY other way gays exist is by ACCEPTANCE of Gay behavior!
Acceptance of gays' existence means behavior modification.

 

[Seawytch]

I don't believe in your "god", I do believe in what I observe around me. As far as animals are concerned, specifically mammals, "gay" is not a natural state. Homo sapiens, however, have the ability to equate sexual contact with emotional attachment (among other things), not just reproduction. In that context, what constitutes "human behavior" vs. Nature? So "god made me that way" is not an argument in my lexicon, just as "god hates a sinner" is not.

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

 

[Seawytch]

Anyone see Stephen Colbert last night? They went to Vicco, Kentucky. Smallest town in KY. They have a gay mayor, and just passed a "fairness ordinance" regarding gays. The townsfolk were what you'd expect. Rural, country, deep drawl accents. But surprisingly- or not- they were mostly all in favor of it, and supportive of their mayor. One guy....who was a bit slow speaking and country, nothing wrong with that- put it so clearly and simple: "If God made 'em that way, how can the Bible say its wrong? Why'd he make 'em that way?" It was the best argument I've heard.

So, let me ask, did God make them that way? If so, how can He, or we, judge them?

Now, lets say you are gonna argue God did NOT make them that way. That they CHOSE. That would mean the rest of use CHOSE to be attracted to women, right? Wouldn't that suggest that gays and straights- like all you right wingers who oppose gay rights- have a 50/50 attraction to men/women, and you too just chose the opposite sex?

And as for God...does he make us or not? If our rights cannot be granted by the government, but instead, are "God given"....................like the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms..........and God makes us, then why is it that God made some humans to be born in a country where His rights are granted, but condemns other humans he makes to be born in places like N Korea that deny the rights that are God given by Him?

Unless you want to argue God created the world, but, then stepped away and let nature and humanity run it's course, and therefore, doesn't interfere with genetic deformities, mental illness, birth defects, OR things like a human being born with a sexual attraction to the same sex.

So what is the legal impact of this so-called "fairness ordinance?" What rights does it give gays that they don't already have?

It says you cannot be fired or evicted just for being gay. Fail to pay rent or show up for work, sure. But not just for being gay. Pretty weak law really, since Federal Law probably already covers that. BUT, we all know how hard it is to get the Feds to enforce laws these days, so guess Vicco, KY wanted their own law.

Actually, no, Federal law does not "cover that". There are no Federal Protections for gays and lesbians against employment discrimination. You can be fired for being gay in over half the states.

 

[The Rabbi]

G-d nver made anyone so perverted. It is merely the workings of depraved man to act like that. The Bible specifically condemns homosexual sex. If someone has a different Bible that says it's OK then post it. But don't project your own values on Gd.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I don't believe in your "god", I do believe in what I observe around me. As far as animals are concerned, specifically mammals, "gay" is not a natural state. Homo sapiens, however, have the ability to equate sexual contact with emotional attachment (among other things), not just reproduction. In that context, what constitutes "human behavior" vs. Nature? So "god made me that way" is not an argument in my lexicon, just as "god hates a sinner" is not.

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

Jezzus fucking Christ. animals do not have sex for pleasure, they have sex to survive, it's an instinctive drive. Humping to show dominance over a lower ranking male is not having sex.

 

[healthmyths]

Anyone see Stephen Colbert last night? They went to Vicco, Kentucky. Smallest town in KY. They have a gay mayor, and just passed a "fairness ordinance" regarding gays. The townsfolk were what you'd expect. Rural, country, deep drawl accents. But surprisingly- or not- they were mostly all in favor of it, and supportive of their mayor. One guy....who was a bit slow speaking and country, nothing wrong with that- put it so clearly and simple: "If God made 'em that way, how can the Bible say its wrong? Why'd he make 'em that way?" It was the best argument I've heard.

So, let me ask, did God make them that way? If so, how can He, or we, judge them?

Now, lets say you are gonna argue God did NOT make them that way. That they CHOSE. That would mean the rest of use CHOSE to be attracted to women, right? Wouldn't that suggest that gays and straights- like all you right wingers who oppose gay rights- have a 50/50 attraction to men/women, and you too just chose the opposite sex?

And as for God...does he make us or not? If our rights cannot be granted by the government, but instead, are "God given"....................like the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms..........and God makes us, then why is it that God made some humans to be born in a country where His rights are granted, but condemns other humans he makes to be born in places like N Korea that deny the rights that are God given by Him?

Unless you want to argue God created the world, but, then stepped away and let nature and humanity run it's course, and therefore, doesn't interfere with genetic deformities, mental illness, birth defects, OR things like a human being born with a sexual attraction to the same sex.

tell me something... dose it matter if they choose to be gay or if they were made that way? What does god have to do with any of it?


i really don't give a shit...



what gays do choose..... is how they present themselves. The over the top flamboyant bullshit...is ALL by choice.

Are all gays flamboyant?

Are no straights flamboyant?

ARE ALL people IDIOTS? Of course not.

But where do you think the concept of "stereotyping" comes from?
Do you think someone somewhere said" Ok.. today I'll create this stereotype about gays and say 'all gays are flamboyant'.. yea
that will be the stereotype!"
Do you think that's how stereotypes like "all gays are flamboyant" are created???

More importantly your inclination to say "ALL" again is a stereotypical statement of idiots!
NOTHING is "ALL" anymore then there is an "AVERAGE" person!

So I'm creating the stereotype right now as you have done...
ALL people that use "ALL" in a sentence are ALWAYS idiots"!!!

So based on your statement "Are All Gays Flamboyant" where you used "ALL" you are therefore the stereotypical "IDIOT"!

Stop making the EXCEPTION the RULE! Another example of the stereotypical "IDIOT"!!!

 

[Seawytch]

G-d nver made anyone so perverted. It is merely the workings of depraved man to act like that. The Bible specifically condemns homosexual sex. If someone has a different Bible that says it's OK then post it. But don't project your own values on Gd.

The bible condemns promiscuity, not consenting adult gay relationships.

The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision."

The Landlord and the Gays

 

[Silhouette]

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

um...lol... how did the female albatrosses hatch fertile eggs if they were mated together? True, animals can be gay. In fact, in the beef cattle industry, handlers for decades now have trained countless bulls to be gay in artificial orientation. First few ejaculates with estrus hormones used near steers [castrated males] they use as dummy mounts to collect semen and they have perfectly conditioned/habituated/grafted bull that from then on becomes aroused at the site of other male cattle; steers particularly.

Do gays choose to be gay? How can we refuse equal rights?

No, but habituation is not the same as being born that way. The epidemic found in gays of having been molested as boys is like a red checked flag. That and what ag and zoo specialists have known for centuries about grafting/imprinting/training artificial orientations in mammals across all species.

ATLANTA [2005 Clinical Psychiatry News] -- Substance abuse is pervasive among gay men and is so intricately intertwined with epidemics of depression, partner abuse, and childhood sexual abuse that adequately addressing one issue requires attention to the others as well, said Ronald Stall, Ph.D., chief of prevention research for the division of HIV/AIDS prevention at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta...

..In the current survey, substance use, childhood sex abuse, partner violence, and major depression emerged as interrelated issues that also are closely linked. Major depression and partner violence predicted multiple drug use and childhood sex abuse, and multiple drug use, childhood sex abuse, and partner violence were predictors of major depression

 

[Seawytch]

I don't believe in your "god", I do believe in what I observe around me. As far as animals are concerned, specifically mammals, "gay" is not a natural state. Homo sapiens, however, have the ability to equate sexual contact with emotional attachment (among other things), not just reproduction. In that context, what constitutes "human behavior" vs. Nature? So "god made me that way" is not an argument in my lexicon, just as "god hates a sinner" is not.

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

Jezzus fucking Christ. animals do not have sex for pleasure, they have sex to survive, it's an instinctive drive. Humping to show dominance over a lower ranking male is not having sex.

Actually, some do have sex for pleasure and humans do for sure. Humans have one thing that sets us apart from our animal counterparts and that is our ability to love.

Ya'll can't have it both ways. You can't play the "it ain't nachral" card and the "we ain't animals" card at the same time.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

Jezzus fucking Christ. animals do not have sex for pleasure, they have sex to survive, it's an instinctive drive. Humping to show dominance over a lower ranking male is not having sex.

Actually, some do have sex for pleasure and humans do for sure. Humans have one thing that sets us apart from our animal counterparts and that is our ability to love.

Ya'll can't have it both ways. You can't play the "it ain't nachral" card and the "we ain't animals" card at the same time.

How in the hell do you know they have sex for pleasure? Do you take a servery? Do you ask them what position they like best? That's so fucking insane To have feelings of pleasure you would also need emotional attachments.

 

[Sunni Man]

I once owned a dog that would hump peoples legs anytime he got the chance.

He must of had a gay gene and couldn't help it.

Got so bad that I finally had to put him down.

This incident proved to me that being a homo isn't a 'choice'. ..

 

[Seawytch]

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

um...lol... how did the female albatrosses hatch fertile eggs if they were mated together? True, animals can be gay. In fact, in the beef cattle industry, handlers for decades now have trained countless bulls to be gay in artificial orientation. First few ejaculates with estrus hormones used near steers [castrated males] they use as dummy mounts to collect semen and they have perfectly conditioned/habituated/grafted bull that from then on becomes aroused at the site of other male cattle; steers particularly.

Do gays choose to be gay? How can we refuse equal rights?

No, but habituation is not the same as being born that way. The epidemic found in gays of having been molested as boys is like a red checked flag. That and what ag and zoo specialists have known for centuries about grafting/imprinting/training artificial orientations in mammals across all species.

ATLANTA [2005 Clinical Psychiatry News] -- Substance abuse is pervasive among gay men and is so intricately intertwined with epidemics of depression, partner abuse, and childhood sexual abuse that adequately addressing one issue requires attention to the others as well, said Ronald Stall, Ph.D., chief of prevention research for the division of HIV/AIDS prevention at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta...

..In the current survey, substance use, childhood sex abuse, partner violence, and major depression emerged as interrelated issues that also are closely linked. Major depression and partner violence predicted multiple drug use and childhood sex abuse, and multiple drug use, childhood sex abuse, and partner violence were predictors of major depression

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Speaking of animals...bovine feces.

 

[billyerock1991]

Anyone see Stephen Colbert last night? They went to Vicco, Kentucky. Smallest town in KY. They have a gay mayor, and just passed a "fairness ordinance" regarding gays. The townsfolk were what you'd expect. Rural, country, deep drawl accents. But surprisingly- or not- they were mostly all in favor of it, and supportive of their mayor. One guy....who was a bit slow speaking and country, nothing wrong with that- put it so clearly and simple: "If God made 'em that way, how can the Bible say its wrong? Why'd he make 'em that way?" It was the best argument I've heard.

So, let me ask, did God make them that way? If so, how can He, or we, judge them?

Now, lets say you are gonna argue God did NOT make them that way. That they CHOSE. That would mean the rest of use CHOSE to be attracted to women, right? Wouldn't that suggest that gays and straights- like all you right wingers who oppose gay rights- have a 50/50 attraction to men/women, and you too just chose the opposite sex?

And as for God...does he make us or not? If our rights cannot be granted by the government, but instead, are "God given"....................like the 2nd Amendment right to bear arms..........and God makes us, then why is it that God made some humans to be born in a country where His rights are granted, but condemns other humans he makes to be born in places like N Korea that deny the rights that are God given by Him?

Unless you want to argue God created the world, but, then stepped away and let nature and humanity run it's course, and therefore, doesn't interfere with genetic deformities, mental illness, birth defects, OR things like a human being born with a sexual attraction to the same sex.

no

 

[Seawytch]

Jezzus fucking Christ. animals do not have sex for pleasure, they have sex to survive, it's an instinctive drive. Humping to show dominance over a lower ranking male is not having sex.

Actually, some do have sex for pleasure and humans do for sure. Humans have one thing that sets us apart from our animal counterparts and that is our ability to love.

Ya'll can't have it both ways. You can't play the "it ain't nachral" card and the "we ain't animals" card at the same time.

How in the hell do you know they have sex for pleasure? Do you take a servery? Do you ask them what position they like best? That's so fucking insane To have feelings of pleasure you would also need emotional attachments.

Is science a completely foreign concept to you?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Actually, some do have sex for pleasure and humans do for sure. Humans have one thing that sets us apart from our animal counterparts and that is our ability to love.

Ya'll can't have it both ways. You can't play the "it ain't nachral" card and the "we ain't animals" card at the same time.

How in the hell do you know they have sex for pleasure? Do you take a servery? Do you ask them what position they like best? That's so fucking insane To have feelings of pleasure you would also need emotional attachments.

Is science a completely foreign concept to you?

Was my question to hard to answer? god damn it if it was not answer the mother fucking questions.

 

[bodecea]

Actually, some do have sex for pleasure and humans do for sure. Humans have one thing that sets us apart from our animal counterparts and that is our ability to love.

Ya'll can't have it both ways. You can't play the "it ain't nachral" card and the "we ain't animals" card at the same time.

How in the hell do you know they have sex for pleasure? Do you take a servery? Do you ask them what position they like best? That's so fucking insane To have feelings of pleasure you would also need emotional attachments.

Is science a completely foreign concept to you?

Look at his nic....of course it is.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How in the hell do you know they have sex for pleasure? Do you take a servery? Do you ask them what position they like best? That's so fucking insane To have feelings of pleasure you would also need emotional attachments.

Is science a completely foreign concept to you?

Look at his nic....of course it is.

Of course it is not. So since butchy you stepped up answer the questions I asked.

How in the hell do you know they have sex for pleasure? Do you take a servery? Do you ask them what position they like best?

This whole idea is insane that animals have sex for pleasure. In the wild offspring born out of season would mean death. Animals do not have protected sex and would produce offspring. Do you comprehend this?

 

[Duped]

I propose that gay people utilize their right to bear arms to defend their rights from people who wish to deprive them of those rights.

They have every right to exercise their liberty...but out of sight and CEASE forcing the rest of us to accept it.

Clear?

What’s ‘clear’ is your ignorance, stupidity, and hate.

The right of homosexuals to ‘exercise their liberty’ means that they don’t have to exist in hiding, as advocated by many on the intolerant right, they may express themselves as homosexuals in the open, free from fear of reprisal.

And expressing oneself openly as gay in no way compels anyone to ‘accept’ homosexuality.

You’re at liberty to maintain your ignorance and hate concerning homosexuals, but you are not at liberty to attempt to codify that ignorance and hate.

Tell that to islam

 

[Quantum Windbag]

So what is the legal impact of this so-called "fairness ordinance?" What rights does it give gays that they don't already have?

It says you cannot be fired or evicted just for being gay. Fail to pay rent or show up for work, sure. But not just for being gay. Pretty weak law really, since Federal Law probably already covers that. BUT, we all know how hard it is to get the Feds to enforce laws these days, so guess Vicco, KY wanted their own law.

Actually, no, Federal law does not "cover that". There are no Federal Protections for gays and lesbians against employment discrimination. You can be fired for being gay in over half the states.

Does federal law protect people against discrimination of they get tattoos?