Do gays choose to be gay? How can we refuse equal rights?

[The Rabbi]

In the same breath the book of Isaiah condemns pole smokers, it also condems eaters of lobsters and pigs. It refers to them all as "abominations".

It isn't Isiah, genius. It's Deuteronomy.
SO what's your point?

I believe you're both wrong and it's Leviticus.

It's both.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion. People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

 

[Seawytch]

It isn't Isiah, genius. It's Deuteronomy.
SO what's your point?

I believe you're both wrong and it's Leviticus.

It's both.

It's OT stuff. Jesus said what?

 

[The Rabbi]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion. People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

They certainly aren't exerting a lot of control over it.

 

[Seawytch]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion. People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

So you could choose to not only suck another guy's dick, but also kiss him passionately, and swear to honor and cherish him for life? Good to know. Are you single?

 

[g5000]

G-d nver made anyone so perverted. It is merely the workings of depraved man to act like that. The Bible specifically condemns homosexual sex. If someone has a different Bible that says it's OK then post it. But don't project your own values on Gd.

In the same breath the book of Isaiah condemns pole smokers, it also condems eaters of lobsters and pigs. It refers to them all as "abominations".

It isn't Isiah, genius. It's Deuteronomy.
SO what's your point?

Actually it is neither. It is Leviticus.

The point is if you eat pork you are just as much an abomination as those who stuff it up their ass.

 

[g5000]

In the same breath the book of Isaiah condemns pole smokers, it also condems eaters of lobsters and pigs. It refers to them all as "abominations".

It isn't Isiah, genius. It's Deuteronomy.
SO what's your point?

I believe you're both wrong and it's Leviticus.

Yes. That is correct. Thank you.

 

[g5000]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion.

You are just chock full of strawman fallacies, aren't you?

People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

Dude. You are like an almost perfect case study of illogic. Your posts should be in a textbook.

 

[Seawytch]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion. People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

They certainly aren't exerting a lot of control over it.

Why should we have to control our actions when our actions (based on innate attractions) are with other consenting adults?

 

[Redfish]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion. People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

They certainly aren't exerting a lot of control over it.

Why should we have to control our actions when our actions (based on innate attractions) are with other consenting adults?

what two consenting adults do in privacy is no one's business but theirs. The problem is that you gays are trying to get the govt to FORCE the rest of us to legally and morally condone your life style.

I know that is beyond your ability to comprehend, but thats the issue. Do whatever you want to and with your partner, just don't try to get the govt to make me accept it as normal human behavior.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion. People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

So you could choose to not only suck another guy's dick, but also kiss him passionately, and swear to honor and cherish him for life? Good to know. Are you single?

People could choose to do most anything... it doesn't man they actually do.

Geesh.

 

[Pogo]

Oh, Dear God... another 'Gay' thread...

There oughtta be a rule...

Gays represent 3.8% of the population... ( LGBT demographics of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

Therefore... Gays get 3.8% of the threads and bandwidth dedicated to their issues...

That sounds entirely fair to me...

Then you'll need to edit 96.2% of that post out.

Here, I got it. Your revised post:

-- what are you winkin' at?

 

[Pogo]

"...So now fudge packing is a protected 'Right' like the 2nd Amendment?? .."

"Yea, verily... fudge not, lest ye be fudged."

I know, right? "Fudge packing"? "Carpet munching"? Who the fuck comes up with these terms?

Excellent pun though, sailor.

 

[g5000]

They certainly aren't exerting a lot of control over it.

Why should we have to control our actions when our actions (based on innate attractions) are with other consenting adults?

what two consenting adults do in privacy is no one's business but theirs. The problem is that you gays are trying to get the govt to FORCE the rest of us to legally and morally condone your life style.

I know that is beyond your ability to comprehend, but thats the issue. Do whatever you want to and with your partner, just don't try to get the govt to make me accept it as normal human behavior.

No one asserts being gay as normal behavior. But people like you constantly try to make "abnormal" and "wrong" synonymous, which they aren't. Homosexuality just needs equal protection of our laws. That's it. It currently does not have that protection.

And the reason that protection does not exist is because behind every mask people like you wear is a Westboro Baptist with a GOD HATES FAGS sign.

 

[gallantwarrior]

I don't believe in your "god", I do believe in what I observe around me. As far as animals are concerned, specifically mammals, "gay" is not a natural state. Homo sapiens, however, have the ability to equate sexual contact with emotional attachment (among other things), not just reproduction. In that context, what constitutes "human behavior" vs. Nature? So "god made me that way" is not an argument in my lexicon, just as "god hates a sinner" is not.

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

How, exactly, did the female-female pairs get eggs to incubate?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Is science a completely foreign concept to you?

Was my question to hard to answer? god damn it if it was not answer the mother fucking questions.

Look it up. I wouldn't want to rob you of your ignorance.

I don't have to look it up I know the answer seems you don't

 

[Seawytch]

Was my question to hard to answer? god damn it if it was not answer the mother fucking questions.

Look it up. I wouldn't want to rob you of your ignorance.

I don't have to look it up I know the answer seems you don't

If you don't know how, just say so

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1090811

 

[gallantwarrior]

Can Animals Be Gay?

Yes.

In the course of her doctoral work, Young and a colleague discovered, almost incidentally, that a third of the pairs at Kaena Point actually consisted of two female birds, not one male and one female. Laysan albatrosses are one of countless species in which the two sexes look basically identical. It turned out that many of the female-female pairs, at Kaena Point and at a colony that Young’s colleague studied on Kauai, had been together for 4, 8 or even 19 years — as far back as the biologists’ data went, in some cases. The female-female pairs had been incubating eggs together, rearing chicks and just generally passing under everybody’s nose for what you might call “straight” couples.

um...lol... how did the female albatrosses hatch fertile eggs if they were mated together? True, animals can be gay. In fact, in the beef cattle industry, handlers for decades now have trained countless bulls to be gay in artificial orientation. First few ejaculates with estrus hormones used near steers [castrated males] they use as dummy mounts to collect semen and they have perfectly conditioned/habituated/grafted bull that from then on becomes aroused at the site of other male cattle; steers particularly.

Do gays choose to be gay? How can we refuse equal rights?

No, but habituation is not the same as being born that way. The epidemic found in gays of having been molested as boys is like a red checked flag. That and what ag and zoo specialists have known for centuries about grafting/imprinting/training artificial orientations in mammals across all species.

ATLANTA [2005 Clinical Psychiatry News] -- Substance abuse is pervasive among gay men and is so intricately intertwined with epidemics of depression, partner abuse, and childhood sexual abuse that adequately addressing one issue requires attention to the others as well, said Ronald Stall, Ph.D., chief of prevention research for the division of HIV/AIDS prevention at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta...

..In the current survey, substance use, childhood sex abuse, partner violence, and major depression emerged as interrelated issues that also are closely linked. Major depression and partner violence predicted multiple drug use and childhood sex abuse, and multiple drug use, childhood sex abuse, and partner violence were predictors of major depression

None of those things constitutes natural behavior. Every instance is induced my human manipulation. The same stands for just about every instance of "homosexual" animal behavior.

 

[Seawytch]

They certainly aren't exerting a lot of control over it.

Why should we have to control our actions when our actions (based on innate attractions) are with other consenting adults?

what two consenting adults do in privacy is no one's business but theirs. The problem is that you gays are trying to get the govt to FORCE the rest of us to legally and morally condone your life style.

I know that is beyond your ability to comprehend, but thats the issue. Do whatever you want to and with your partner, just don't try to get the govt to make me accept it as normal human behavior.

Giving us equal protection under the law isn't forcing anything on you.

 

[Seawytch]

The way gay people act, they see being gay as an act of rebellion. People choose to be rebellious all the time, so in my reasoning, yes, they choose to be gay.

So you could choose to not only suck another guy's dick, but also kiss him passionately, and swear to honor and cherish him for life? Good to know. Are you single?

People could choose to do most anything... it doesn't man they actually do.

Geesh.

Missing the point I see. Could you choose to want to?