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If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
Former Democrat who did a 180 and became a Republican, now former Republican who knows both parties are full of shit.
I wouldn't disagree with you but the only way to push the pendulum the other way is to vote Democratic on November 6.
The 'Pubes have become the party of bloated, old, fat, bigoted, misogynistic white men.
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If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
Former Democrat who did a 180 and became a Republican, now former Republican who knows both parties are full of shit.
I wouldn't disagree with you but the only way to push the pendulum the other way is to vote Democratic on November 6.
The 'Pubes have become the party of bloated, old, fat, bigoted, misogynistic white men.
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“The 'Pubes have become the party of bloated, old, fat, bigoted, misogynistic white men.”
Yeah, don’t you dare support those terrible white people that built this nation into the place you want to be...that wouldn’t make any sense.
Support that party of wetbacks, pole puffers, men in dresses, bottom feeders, beggars and wackos.
If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
This is the type of post that would come from a far rightwing partisan hack not tied to anything resembling the facts.You forgot to include the most important democrat social demographic "Im an illegal alien but I plan to circumvent the process and vote for the party that advocates open borders".
Basically.Not partisan at all.
Republicans believe it's OK to separate children from their parents at the border and put them in cages.
Christians would not abide by that for single fucking moment.
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I was still in high school when Clinton went on TV to deny that he ever. had. sexual relations. with. that. woman. Monica Lewinksi. I was thinking at the time "why is this even a deal!?!?"As a former Republican, I rallied around the Republican President after 9-11
I was willing to support anything he needed.....Patriot Act, Homeland Security, restrictions of rights
When Bush wanted to invade Afghanistan, I backed him
He chased Al Qaeda across Afganistan......then quit
Bush started talking about the threat of Saddam, WMDs, Iraq being part of 9-11 and I started saying.......WTF???
Then he invaded Iraq, we found out he lied about WMDs
Then he engaged in torture, opened GITMO, denied basic human rights
Republicans applauded him
I remembered why I was no longer Republican
Actually, he didn't. To many of us, it rather was obvious he (and the Republicans) were lying from the start.Yep.
When Bush stood up and admitted Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 I was done with the Republicans and their everlasting need for wars.
Their sheer willingness to send young people overseas to be killed and mangled for their bottom line profit.
Dick Cheney should be hung from the neck until dead.
Bush did a great job of selling the Iraq war, no doubt.
But many saw very quickly that it was just his vanity. "They tried to kill my daddy!"
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Actually, he didn't. To many of us, it rather was obvious he (and the Republicans) were lying from the start.Yep.
When Bush stood up and admitted Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 I was done with the Republicans and their everlasting need for wars.
Their sheer willingness to send young people overseas to be killed and mangled for their bottom line profit.
Dick Cheney should be hung from the neck until dead.
Bush did a great job of selling the Iraq war, no doubt.
But many saw very quickly that it was just his vanity. "They tried to kill my daddy!"
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It's just that too many Americans were too willing to believe him.
I agree w/much of the rest of what you stated though.
If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
I've been a registered Independent ever since I originally registered to vote in 1978.
Maybe I'm old school but I was raised to believe that both parties have good and bad ideas. However that when both get together to solve problems the best ideas usually rise to the top and the solutions are found.
Things worked like that for a very long time.
Things don't work that way anymore.
Today's republican party has sent me and many more Independents running in utter horror from the Republican Party.
Always have been a Conservative Republican and would still be voting that way since the left are stark raving lunatics. Bush really disenchanted me but the other option was even worse.
Thank God Trump came along,he's the closest thing to a third party in my lifetime.
Goddamn, third party??? LOLOLOLOLOL!
There are plenty of him running around in places like Oklahoma, Georgia and Kentucky, honey.
Except they aren't wearing Gucci suits and they don't dye their hair platinum blonde and buy hair spray by the case.
But they DO agree with Donald that women are worthless vessels to be exploited.
("third party"...bahahahahahahaha)
So state the cases where Trump claimed women were useless.
You cant stand the fact that Trump has done amazing things with our economy and jobless rates.
You'd rather see America fail than to see Trump succeed.
Guess you missed that Hollywood Access tape.
If I thought you were nothing more than a (tiny) dick in a Speedo, and called you a pig or a dog, what would your impression be?
What if I said you were "bleeding from your eyes and your...whatever" as he said of Megyn Kelly?
Sorry if you're so fucking stupid you need more information than that.
Trump did not start out with a full blown recession when he took office. He started out at the top of an 8-year recovery with the Dow at 20,000. Not 7900 as Obama did.
And pay attention to something besides Fox and his rallies.
He's fucking things up grandly.
The U.S.-China Trade Battle Spawns a New Era of Tariff Dodges
U.S.-China Tensions Break Out in Beijing
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And he's a total fucking fraud, too. He was handed everything, not a self-made man.
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
I've been a registered Independent ever since I originally registered to vote in 1978.
Maybe I'm old school but I was raised to believe that both parties have good and bad ideas. However that when both get together to solve problems the best ideas usually rise to the top and the solutions are found.
Things worked like that for a very long time.
Things don't work that way anymore.
Today's republican party has sent me and many more Independents running in utter horror from the Republican Party.
Republicans have driven the moderates out of their party
They no longer tolerate their RINOs
Did you seriously just try and pass off Bernie as NOT trying to expand government.Sounds like BERNIE!The long and short of it:
Both parties are for expanding government, just in different ways. There is WAY too much power/influence in Washington, and I will likely vote for ANYONE who is committed to changing that. Actual policies are less of a concern, though they do still matter, especially those that deal directly with constitutional issues, national security, and protecting INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. The fastest way to lose my vote is to say something that threatens any of those things.
- I liked Bill Clinton, the first time around, and would have identified as a Democrat if pushed.
- The "blue dress" scandal happened. I saw how the Dems acted, and, as a practicing Christian, wanted no part of it. "Switched" to being more Republican, and started listening to Rush.
- Came of age and voted mostly "party line".
- Swallowed hard and voted for Bush, twice.
- Swallowed REALLY hard and voted against Obama, the first time.
- Paid attention to the way Republicans and Democrats acted during first 4 years of Obama.
- Got educated on the Framers, COTUS, and how the Federal Government really works (lobbyists, money, special interest group, etc.), and realised that most in Washington are more concerned with maintaining power than solving problems.
- Haven't voted for either party since. I don't see how that will change anytime soon.
If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
Outstanding post.If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
Former Republican? I was regularly a delegate to the state conventions in Texas, was president of the College Republicans on my campus and was employed by the Reagan-Bush '84 and Bill Clements re-election campaigns. In that period I was a regular listener to Limbaugh, Liddy, and Hannity. Though I didn't care for them personally, I grudgingly accepted GHWB and Dole as nominees because they "earned" it through long service. I backed Buchanan in 92 and my governor for president in 2000. As curriculum vitae is that sufficient?
Once upon a time, not so long ago, I would have been considered a center right Repub. As RR once said, “I didn’t leave the Democrat Party, they left me.” My points of view haven’t changed. Unlike those who claim the conservative label in this day and time, I have read Russell Kirk, John Locke, and Hobbes. To my reading list I have added Nock, Spooner, Bastiat, Herbert Spencer and Rothbard. This is why I hold both major political parties, and their rabid mindless acolytes, in such great disdain. Each is full of that ‘my country right or wrong’ thinking, just as long as it’s their party in charge at the moment. When it is the other bunch in charge they are ready to scream that the whole shootin’ match is going to the hot place in a hand basket. They are two sides of the same coin. Theirs is organised theft. It is theft by force of arms. They exist only to remove money, which they have not earned and have no right to, from productive people and make it available to the leaches. There is no difference in the social programs of the left’s nanny state or the military industrial complex and corporate welfare on the right.
I have never been an active anti-abortion advocate, but am inclined in that direction. My belief is that this is something that belongs under the preview of the states and as such support the overturning of RvW. Now this has been a fundraising cash cow of the GOP since the late 1970’s. Cynically they have avoided actually doing anything about this every time they have had the power to do so. Simply stripping the jurisdiction of the federal courts, which the congress has the power to do, in this matter is doable and does not require a majority on the SC.
While he was still Governor of Texas, I was as excited as any Bushie that he might seek the White House. He had been a fine Governor, his leadership was strong and his ability to reach across the aisle and work with the opposition party for the betterment of Texas showed great promise for the future.
Once elected what had President Bush done? He had allowed discretionary spending rise at a rate that would have given Bill Clinton pause. He made war on terrorists in the name of supporting freedom, and left inconvenient democracy movements to wither while at home he signed legislation that went further to restrict liberties than any preceding president. After decades of advocating the devolving of power to the state and local governments, Ted Kennedy got to write the Education Bill and set national standards in education. The national chairman of the GO.P. went to New Hampshire in 2004 and told conservatives that they can lump it if they didn't like it, because wasn’t like they had anywhere else to go. Then they pushed Part D through the congress and made it law.
Wars without end were launched with the most spurious and transparent of false justifications. When the towers were destroyed, Saudi officials and their families were quickly spirited out of the country. Surprise! Most of the actors in the attack were Saudi citizens. Anybody within the fold that questioned the motivations for the attack was ostracized and kicked to the side of the road. The most vicious attacks were set aside for Congressman Ron Paul, an unassuming and soft spoken fellow who could have easily been patted on the head, smiled at, and patronized like an elderly uncle. He wasn’t going to win, he was no threat to the status quo but he was treated like a klansman at a NAACP meeting.
They only opposed Obama around the fringes, with cynical votes to end national healthcare that they knew would accomplish nothing. Once they had the means to do something, they refused to do so. Obama did two things worthy of a pat on the back, his reaching out to Cuba and the Iran nuclear deal. These were the first things to be reversed as soon as possible.
I find a perverse pleasure in the administration of Donald Trump. I agree with almost nothing, but he does throw the pestilent and parasitical types into a real tizzy and I am greatly amused by the show. Y’all ran that old unelectable douche bag on purpose and that’s why you ended up with the annoying orange. That shit is on you.
Trump is vile, his enemies and detractors more so.
There is nothing of the small government, live and let live, western GOP, libertarian Reaganite views left in the party. So I quit. I won’t vote for their neocon warmongering, government has the answers, boom and bust cycle fascist corporatism. The last national election in which I cast a vote was in 2004 and it was for a third party candidate.
For all their faults, as detestable as I find the GOP, I hold the dimocraps in even lower esteem.
Sadly, you are right. Even sadder is that we will likely get one. Why do I say "even sadder"? Read George Washington's Farewell Address (it was actually a letter) to understand why. Near the middle he discusses the folly of political parties in a free Republic.Outstanding post.If so, what's your story?
Is it anything like this guy who was forced to leave the party he's been a part of since 1979 due to the fact that it's gone completely off the deep end?
What's your story?
Former Republican? I was regularly a delegate to the state conventions in Texas, was president of the College Republicans on my campus and was employed by the Reagan-Bush '84 and Bill Clements re-election campaigns. In that period I was a regular listener to Limbaugh, Liddy, and Hannity. Though I didn't care for them personally, I grudgingly accepted GHWB and Dole as nominees because they "earned" it through long service. I backed Buchanan in 92 and my governor for president in 2000. As curriculum vitae is that sufficient?
Once upon a time, not so long ago, I would have been considered a center right Repub. As RR once said, “I didn’t leave the Democrat Party, they left me.” My points of view haven’t changed. Unlike those who claim the conservative label in this day and time, I have read Russell Kirk, John Locke, and Hobbes. To my reading list I have added Nock, Spooner, Bastiat, Herbert Spencer and Rothbard. This is why I hold both major political parties, and their rabid mindless acolytes, in such great disdain. Each is full of that ‘my country right or wrong’ thinking, just as long as it’s their party in charge at the moment. When it is the other bunch in charge they are ready to scream that the whole shootin’ match is going to the hot place in a hand basket. They are two sides of the same coin. Theirs is organised theft. It is theft by force of arms. They exist only to remove money, which they have not earned and have no right to, from productive people and make it available to the leaches. There is no difference in the social programs of the left’s nanny state or the military industrial complex and corporate welfare on the right.
I have never been an active anti-abortion advocate, but am inclined in that direction. My belief is that this is something that belongs under the preview of the states and as such support the overturning of RvW. Now this has been a fundraising cash cow of the GOP since the late 1970’s. Cynically they have avoided actually doing anything about this every time they have had the power to do so. Simply stripping the jurisdiction of the federal courts, which the congress has the power to do, in this matter is doable and does not require a majority on the SC.
While he was still Governor of Texas, I was as excited as any Bushie that he might seek the White House. He had been a fine Governor, his leadership was strong and his ability to reach across the aisle and work with the opposition party for the betterment of Texas showed great promise for the future.
Once elected what had President Bush done? He had allowed discretionary spending rise at a rate that would have given Bill Clinton pause. He made war on terrorists in the name of supporting freedom, and left inconvenient democracy movements to wither while at home he signed legislation that went further to restrict liberties than any preceding president. After decades of advocating the devolving of power to the state and local governments, Ted Kennedy got to write the Education Bill and set national standards in education. The national chairman of the GO.P. went to New Hampshire in 2004 and told conservatives that they can lump it if they didn't like it, because wasn’t like they had anywhere else to go. Then they pushed Part D through the congress and made it law.
Wars without end were launched with the most spurious and transparent of false justifications. When the towers were destroyed, Saudi officials and their families were quickly spirited out of the country. Surprise! Most of the actors in the attack were Saudi citizens. Anybody within the fold that questioned the motivations for the attack was ostracized and kicked to the side of the road. The most vicious attacks were set aside for Congressman Ron Paul, an unassuming and soft spoken fellow who could have easily been patted on the head, smiled at, and patronized like an elderly uncle. He wasn’t going to win, he was no threat to the status quo but he was treated like a klansman at a NAACP meeting.
They only opposed Obama around the fringes, with cynical votes to end national healthcare that they knew would accomplish nothing. Once they had the means to do something, they refused to do so. Obama did two things worthy of a pat on the back, his reaching out to Cuba and the Iran nuclear deal. These were the first things to be reversed as soon as possible.
I find a perverse pleasure in the administration of Donald Trump. I agree with almost nothing, but he does throw the pestilent and parasitical types into a real tizzy and I am greatly amused by the show. Y’all ran that old unelectable douche bag on purpose and that’s why you ended up with the annoying orange. That shit is on you.
Trump is vile, his enemies and detractors more so.
There is nothing of the small government, live and let live, western GOP, libertarian Reaganite views left in the party. So I quit. I won’t vote for their neocon warmongering, government has the answers, boom and bust cycle fascist corporatism. The last national election in which I cast a vote was in 2004 and it was for a third party candidate.
For all their faults, as detestable as I find the GOP, I hold the dimocraps in even lower esteem.
Reagan's "I didn't leave them, they left me" statement has come to my mind hundreds of times in recent years, except this time in the context of the Republican party.
I didn't leave it, it left me.
Like you, I hold the Democrats in low esteem, and always have. So I find myself a man without a party.
I do believe our country is ripe for a new major party.
Um, what has Bernie said/done that would cause you to believe he is for removing power/influence from Washington. I do not follow him very closely, doesn't he say he is a "Democratic Socialist"? How can a person be for socialism (AKA state control of the economy) and be for removing power/influence from the state? Those two things seem to be quite opposite each other.Sounds like BERNIE!The long and short of it:
Both parties are for expanding government, just in different ways. There is WAY too much power/influence in Washington, and I will likely vote for ANYONE who is committed to changing that. Actual policies are less of a concern, though they do still matter, especially those that deal directly with constitutional issues, national security, and protecting INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. The fastest way to lose my vote is to say something that threatens any of those things.
- I liked Bill Clinton, the first time around, and would have identified as a Democrat if pushed.
- The "blue dress" scandal happened. I saw how the Dems acted, and, as a practicing Christian, wanted no part of it. "Switched" to being more Republican, and started listening to Rush.
- Came of age and voted mostly "party line".
- Swallowed hard and voted for Bush, twice.
- Swallowed REALLY hard and voted against Obama, the first time.
- Paid attention to the way Republicans and Democrats acted during first 4 years of Obama.
- Got educated on the Framers, COTUS, and how the Federal Government really works (lobbyists, money, special interest group, etc.), and realised that most in Washington are more concerned with maintaining power than solving problems.
- Haven't voted for either party since. I don't see how that will change anytime soon.
