Do You Believe Based on Evidence, Russia Changed Outcome of 2016 Election

[kaz]

If Russians helped Trump to be elected where is the frickn' EVIDENCE????????

It's been almost 2 years and only blah-blah instead of single fact!

What kind of evidence would prove it, to you?

What is it that you want to see?

Actual evidence instead of just butt hurt accusations and lies by leftists

 

[Uncensored2008]

It's called the Deep State, they went through a lot of trouble to get the cold war going again in order to justify the yuuuge war budget and the Orwellian spy state and they're really pi$$ed off that their beloved psycho princess didn't get selected while it was her turn after all....

The idea behind the Mueller circus isn't to find any evidence, the idea is to keep the fearmongering going and make sure the very stable orange genius in chief doesn't get friendly with the evil Russians

Once you realize that, it al makes "sense"

Very much, but I don't think Russia has anything to do with anything, other than it is a massive source of corruption.

What the Deep State protects is corruption. People come out of Washington DC millionaires and billionaires. DC is a better incubator of massive wealth than Silicone Valley. The thing is though, the wealth coming from Washington is all due to corruption.

Trump is an outsider, and one who already has wealth. He is the biggest threat to our crooked to the core government that has EVER come around. We know Obama was in bed with Russia, we also know the net worth of Obama rose by 500,000% while he was in office. People go to DC to rape America and loot the wealth of the nation. This is why BOTH sides are dedicated to attacking Trump.

Keeping Trump off balance is an attempt to preserve the culture of corruption that defines our government.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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lol...& lincoln & karl marx were pen pals.

Of course they were Comrade, gave Abe time to practice his German. He was fluent, right?

http://icl-fi.org/english/wv/938/marx.html

A history of political pen pals

Journal of American History - Abraham Lincoln at 200 - Interchange: The Global Lincoln

Marx's letter to Abraham Lincoln


lol... told ya.

Ah, we have a liar and a moron.

You must be a Communist.

Marx wrote to Lincoln indeed.

Lincoln had no idea who this Prussian clown was. I doubt Lincoln read what Marx wrote. His secretary sent a standard reply "thank you for your letter."

You Marxists are such fucking retards.

au CONtraire, mutt. but since you are supporting a traitor, anything you say is pure nonsensical pablum.

Karl Marx is the most important man in history to you and your fellow Stalinists. You love and CHERISH Marx as the root of your deeply held faith. But that's just you, and a nearly retarded Marxist.

At the time of the civil war, he was no one. Lincoln never replied to Marx, despite your lie. Your own link points this out.

 

[Uncensored2008]

lol... first of all- it wasn't hillary's dossier until after it was a (R) dossier. oppositional research is not illegal, unless there were laws broken to obtain the info.

nice try, doesn't fly.

Oh look, a fucking liar - how unique for a Communist.


EDIT - that is NOT Buckeyes quote - it is Comrade Playtime.

i don't lie. look it up yourself, you lazy ass mutt.

Lying fuck.

The Washington Examiner had nothing to do with the Steele Dossier and the collusion between the Clinton campaign and the Kremlin.

You're just a shameless, filthy liar.

lol... seems you are pulling shit outa thin air..... 'washington examiner'? never said they were. guess that makes YOU the filthy liar.

Okay lying fuck, who is it you claim from "Republicans" that funded the Steel Dossier?

DERP.

You're too stupid to pull this kind of shit off.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I believe Russia did what's it's been doing for the last 10 years. It's just for some reason, on November 9th 2016 Liberal America went ape shit looking for a scapegoat and Russia won.

Really? they stole the DNC's and the DCCCs private emails and weaponized them against a candidate, through wikileaks the past 10 years?

And 10 years prior to the election, FACEBOOK had a million users and now it has 2.2 BILLION users for them to push their propaganda campaign.....on social media.

I think they may have been trying to mess with our elections through propaganda as you have stated, over the previous 10 years, but they did not have the means to be successful until FACEBOOK and social media and smart phones etc, became a daily part of life....they succeeded this time, and that is the difference.

We don't know that Comrade.

You Communists never allowed any law enforcement agency to look at the servers that were allegedly hacked.

Oh, and you claim that 50,000 in Facebook ads over came the 1.6 BILLION the clinton crime syndicate spent?

FAKE NEWS. the FBI didn't actually have to remove any servers to get a looksey at all the juicy little tidbits inside. in fact, removing it might have actually damaged it, thus making any intel gathering damn near impossible. then you would have been barking about that being a cover-up, right little muttski?

yaaaaaa................. that's the ticket.

DERP

Lying fuck.

The Communist Party employed CROWD STRIKE, a "security company" (which was embroiled in corruption and malpractice 3 years later) to examine the server. No law enforcement ever had access to the DNC servers.

FBI says DNC rebuffed request to examine computer servers - CNNPolitics

 

[rightwinger]

It's a badge of honor now to play stupid and close your eyes, ears and mind, eh?

The CRIMINALLY stolen emails, and weaponizing them and the promotion of the Russian propaganda to split Hillary voters and Bernie voters by the Russian Trolls, and Russian bots, and the conservative journalist who was coordinating with Assange... who was told by wikileaks of what was going to be released on the stolen emails so he could write a skewed article to spread around the internet with the bots at the same time of the release, and with President Trump PROMOTING the stolen emails on wikileaks 160 times in just the one month prior to the election....

COULD HAVE most certainly affected the vote....their goal was to keep people from voting for Hillary through division of the Bernie camp and the Hillary camp. I did not say it did, but it COULD HAVE......

The indictment released on Friday, spells it out....

Also

WHY DOES IT MATTER if it worked or not?

A crime is a crime is a crime.....

If you try to rob a store, but don't succeed to rob the goods from that store, does that make you any less of a criminal?

If you try to rape someone, but don't succeed, does that make it all A_OK?

If you try to murder someone by shooting them, and your bullet missed, does that mean you did not commit a crime just because you missed?

It's called

Attempted Robbery ......and IS A CRIME.

Attempted Rape ...........and IS A CRIME

Attempted Murder ........and IS A CRIME

So how many of your Progressive friends voted for President Trump ...
Because the Russians convinced them to ...

Collusion isn't a crime ...

.​

Collusion in criminal activity has always been a crime

 

[rightwinger]

hillary lost the electoral college. by some 75K votes.

and?

75K is a low amt to lose by & easily manipulated to get 'er done.

Hillary spent over $1.2 billion, double what Trump spent.
Did all her spending really get undone by Russian memes on Facebook?
Or was she just the most unpleasant (most qualified my ass), most tone-deaf candidate to ever run?

trumpco didn't have to spend much at all for the most expensive media venue - TV - because he was ratings gold.

Yes, the media made Trump President. The constant fake news lies about Trump only help him

The Deplorables ate it up

 

[Uncensored2008]

Oh look, a fucking liar - how unique for a Communist.


EDIT - that is NOT Buckeyes quote - it is Comrade Playtime.

i don't lie. look it up yourself, you lazy ass mutt.

Lying fuck.

The Washington Examiner had nothing to do with the Steele Dossier and the collusion between the Clinton campaign and the Kremlin.

You're just a shameless, filthy liar.

Who said "Washington examiner", you rabid little.dog?

The lying fuck playtime , you absurd troll.

She claimed "Republicans comissioned Fusion GPS," though that lie was dispelled log ago, you mentally retarded troll.

yep. i did. i never mentioned the WE, though. you silly mutt.... you don't even know who the fuck initially hired fusion GPS. it started with the (R)s & when nothing valuable enough to use came out of it... they dropped the company & that's when hillary picked it up & steele subsequently found criminal acts being carried out & it was then he went to the FBI..

which i believe is WHAT I SAID.

Fusion GPS and the Washington Free Beacon
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A note to our readers
BY: Matthew Continetti and Michael Goldfarb
October 27, 2017 7:02 pm

Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project.

Matthew Continetti
Editor in Chief

Michael Goldfarb
Chairman

Fusion GPS and the Washington Free Beacon - Washington Free Beacon

{ The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.}

Fusion GPS and the Washington Free Beacon - Washington Free Beacon

See, you're not WRONG, you're a shameless fucking liar.

You KNOW that what you are post is a lie, yet do it in hopes of deceiving others.

You're a lying sack of shit, which is typical for you Communists.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It's a badge of honor now to play stupid and close your eyes, ears and mind, eh?

The CRIMINALLY stolen emails, and weaponizing them and the promotion of the Russian propaganda to split Hillary voters and Bernie voters by the Russian Trolls, and Russian bots, and the conservative journalist who was coordinating with Assange... who was told by wikileaks of what was going to be released on the stolen emails so he could write a skewed article to spread around the internet with the bots at the same time of the release, and with President Trump PROMOTING the stolen emails on wikileaks 160 times in just the one month prior to the election....

COULD HAVE most certainly affected the vote....their goal was to keep people from voting for Hillary through division of the Bernie camp and the Hillary camp. I did not say it did, but it COULD HAVE......

The indictment released on Friday, spells it out....

Also

WHY DOES IT MATTER if it worked or not?

A crime is a crime is a crime.....

If you try to rob a store, but don't succeed to rob the goods from that store, does that make you any less of a criminal?

If you try to rape someone, but don't succeed, does that make it all A_OK?

If you try to murder someone by shooting them, and your bullet missed, does that mean you did not commit a crime just because you missed?

It's called

Attempted Robbery ......and IS A CRIME.

Attempted Rape ...........and IS A CRIME

Attempted Murder ........and IS A CRIME

So how many of your Progressive friends voted for President Trump ...
Because the Russians convinced them to ...

Collusion isn't a crime ...

.​

Collusion in criminal activity has always been a crime

Really shitflinger?

Care to point to the federal statute that defines "collusion?"

 

[Jantje_Smit]

What the Deep State protects is corruption. People come out of Washington DC millionaires and billionaires. DC is a better incubator of massive wealth than Silicone Valley. The thing is though, the wealth coming from Washington is all due to corruption...

Nah, what the deep state is protecting is the deep state itself. Of course there's an overlap with the corrupt swamp but wealth and corruption is just a tool, it's not the goal and that goal is simply power and control...

They don't care if Trump is corrupt, grabs pussies, pays of porn stars, wants to build a delusional wall, is conducting razzias on immigrants etc...... what they do care about though is him questioning the credibility of their beloved spy agencies and thinking he can make his own foreign policy (like being friendly with Putin)... hence all the hysterical MSM headlines crying about treason when he goes against the wishes of the deep state...

 

[Uncensored2008]

What the Deep State protects is corruption. People come out of Washington DC millionaires and billionaires. DC is a better incubator of massive wealth than Silicone Valley. The thing is though, the wealth coming from Washington is all due to corruption...

Nah, what the deep state is protecting is the deep state itself. Of course there's an overlap with the corrupt swamp but wealth and corruption is just a tool, it's not the goal and that goal is simply power and control...

They don't care if Trump is corrupt, grabs pussies, pays of porn stars, wants to build a delusional wall, is conducting razzias on immigrants etc...... what they do care about though is him questioning the credibility of their beloved spy agencies and thinking he can make his own foreign policy (like being friendly with Putin)... hence all the hysterical MSM headlines crying about treason when he goes against the wishes of the deep state...

I don't agree.

They don't about the credibility of the spy agencies. Remember the "Bush lied, people died" mantra of the Communists? That was based on claims that the CIA fabricated evidence of Yellowcake sales to Saddam. No one defended the spy agencies - certainly not the Soros left.

Remember Obama snuggling up to the Ayatollahs in Iran and giving them hundreds of billions? Don Lemon never pulled his finger out of his ass and shrieked "treason." Nor did any of the other little Goebbels of Communist press.

The Deep State is attacking Trump like they have NEVER attacked anyone before, because he poses a real threat to our corrupt kleptocracy.

 

[Care4all]

It's a badge of honor now to play stupid and close your eyes, ears and mind, eh?

The CRIMINALLY stolen emails, and weaponizing them and the promotion of the Russian propaganda to split Hillary voters and Bernie voters by the Russian Trolls, and Russian bots, and the conservative journalist who was coordinating with Assange... who was told by wikileaks of what was going to be released on the stolen emails so he could write a skewed article to spread around the internet with the bots at the same time of the release, and with President Trump PROMOTING the stolen emails on wikileaks 160 times in just the one month prior to the election....

COULD HAVE most certainly affected the vote....their goal was to keep people from voting for Hillary through division of the Bernie camp and the Hillary camp. I did not say it did, but it COULD HAVE......

The indictment released on Friday, spells it out....

Also

WHY DOES IT MATTER if it worked or not?

A crime is a crime is a crime.....

If you try to rob a store, but don't succeed to rob the goods from that store, does that make you any less of a criminal?

If you try to rape someone, but don't succeed, does that make it all A_OK?

If you try to murder someone by shooting them, and your bullet missed, does that mean you did not commit a crime just because you missed?

It's called

Attempted Robbery ......and IS A CRIME.

Attempted Rape ...........and IS A CRIME

Attempted Murder ........and IS A CRIME

So how many of your Progressive friends voted for President Trump ...
Because the Russians convinced them to ...

Collusion isn't a crime ...

.​

conspiring with the criminals is a crime....

And obviously you have reading comprehension problems early in the morning? The campaign was to suppress the vote for Hillary....

I specifically stated this:



COULD HAVE most certainly affected the vote....their goal was to keep people from voting for Hillary through division of the Bernie camp and the Hillary camp.

 

[BlackSand]

Collusion in criminal activity has always been a crime

Collusion can make someone complicate in a crime ...
It is not a crime in and of itself ... And no one can be charged with collusion alone.
You have to have a crime to charge someone with and then implicate others with collusion.

People can collude anytime they want ... That is not a crime ...

.​

 

[Care4all]

It's a badge of honor now to play stupid and close your eyes, ears and mind, eh?

The CRIMINALLY stolen emails, and weaponizing them and the promotion of the Russian propaganda to split Hillary voters and Bernie voters by the Russian Trolls, and Russian bots, and the conservative journalist who was coordinating with Assange... who was told by wikileaks of what was going to be released on the stolen emails so he could write a skewed article to spread around the internet with the bots at the same time of the release, and with President Trump PROMOTING the stolen emails on wikileaks 160 times in just the one month prior to the election....

COULD HAVE most certainly affected the vote....their goal was to keep people from voting for Hillary through division of the Bernie camp and the Hillary camp. I did not say it did, but it COULD HAVE......

The indictment released on Friday, spells it out....

Also

WHY DOES IT MATTER if it worked or not?

A crime is a crime is a crime.....

If you try to rob a store, but don't succeed to rob the goods from that store, does that make you any less of a criminal?

If you try to rape someone, but don't succeed, does that make it all A_OK?

If you try to murder someone by shooting them, and your bullet missed, does that mean you did not commit a crime just because you missed?

It's called

Attempted Robbery ......and IS A CRIME.

Attempted Rape ...........and IS A CRIME

Attempted Murder ........and IS A CRIME

So how many of your Progressive friends voted for President Trump ...
Because the Russians convinced them to ...

Collusion isn't a crime ...

.​

Collusion in criminal activity has always been a crime

Really shitflinger?

Care to point to the federal statute that defines "collusion?"

what do you see as criminal in that tape?? Had Medvedev committed a crime that Obama participated in...?

You guys could not contort yourselves any further than you have.... Gumby would be proud!!!

 

[BlackSand]

conspiring with the criminals is a crime....

And obviously you have reading comprehension problems early in the morning? The campaign was to suppress the vote for Hillary....

I specifically stated this:



COULD HAVE most certainly affected the vote....their goal was to keep people from voting for Hillary through division of the Bernie camp and the Hillary camp.

Conspiracy is not collusion ...

So your Progressive friends that wanted to vote for Senator Sanders, voted for President Trump because the Russians convinced them to ... Or they just didn't vote because the Russians convinced them to stay home ...

.​

 

[Uncensored2008]

It's a badge of honor now to play stupid and close your eyes, ears and mind, eh?

The CRIMINALLY stolen emails, and weaponizing them and the promotion of the Russian propaganda to split Hillary voters and Bernie voters by the Russian Trolls, and Russian bots, and the conservative journalist who was coordinating with Assange... who was told by wikileaks of what was going to be released on the stolen emails so he could write a skewed article to spread around the internet with the bots at the same time of the release, and with President Trump PROMOTING the stolen emails on wikileaks 160 times in just the one month prior to the election....

COULD HAVE most certainly affected the vote....their goal was to keep people from voting for Hillary through division of the Bernie camp and the Hillary camp. I did not say it did, but it COULD HAVE......

The indictment released on Friday, spells it out....

Also

WHY DOES IT MATTER if it worked or not?

A crime is a crime is a crime.....

If you try to rob a store, but don't succeed to rob the goods from that store, does that make you any less of a criminal?

If you try to rape someone, but don't succeed, does that make it all A_OK?

If you try to murder someone by shooting them, and your bullet missed, does that mean you did not commit a crime just because you missed?

It's called

Attempted Robbery ......and IS A CRIME.

Attempted Rape ...........and IS A CRIME

Attempted Murder ........and IS A CRIME

So how many of your Progressive friends voted for President Trump ...
Because the Russians convinced them to ...

Collusion isn't a crime ...

.​

Collusion in criminal activity has always been a crime

Really shitflinger?

Care to point to the federal statute that defines "collusion?"

what do you see as criminal in that tape?? Had Medvedev committed a crime that Obama participated in...?

You guys could not contort yourselves any further than you have.... Gumby would be proud!!!

Criminal Comrade?

Nothing. I see Obama colluding with Russia.

IF Collusion were a crime, then Obama is guilty..

You Stalinists push this fucking lie that Trump "colluded" with Russia - with even the Inquisition has stated he did not - BUT even if you petty little traitors were telling the truth, what law would that violate?

The same one ISIS Barry violated in the video?

 

[BlackSand]

Criminal Comrade?

Nothing. I see Obama colluding with Russia.

IF Collusion were a crime, then Obama is guilty..

You Stalinists push this fucking lie that Trump "colluded" with Russia - with even the Inquisition has stated he did not - BUT even if you petty little traitors were telling the truth, what law would that violate?

The same one ISIS Barry violated in the video?

What President Obama got caught doing in the video was stupid ... But not a crime.

.​

 

[rightwinger]

Collusion in criminal activity has always been a crime

Collusion can make someone complicate in a crime ...
It is not a crime in and of itself ... And no one can be charged with collusion alone.
You have to have a crime to charge someone with and then implicate others with collusion.

People can collude anytime they want ... That is not a crime ...

.​

Same thing isn’t it?

You may not have committed the crime, but if you pay for it to happen you have colluded in it

Did Trump offer anything in return?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The topic title is an open admission of Russian information warfare on our country. And now the Trumpies are looking for a way out without condemning Russia.

Sad little traitors.

Hillary lost, deal with it.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

I don't agree.

Sad!

They don't about the credibility of the spy agencies. Remember the "Bush lied, people died" mantra of the Communists? That was based on claims that the CIA fabricated evidence of Yellowcake sales to Saddam. No one defended the spy agencies - certainly not the Soros left.

You missed all the explanations afterwards, it wasn't a lie, it was simply a case of bad intelligence? Everyone believed Saddam really had evil WMD... the Tenet creep even got a medal I believe... I don't remember any outrage in the MSM calling for the heads of CIA spies.... and since the general public has the memory span of a fruitfly it was back to business as usual in no time...

Remember Obama snuggling up to the Ayatollahs in Iran and giving them hundreds of billions? Don Lemon never pulled his finger out of his ass and shrieked "treason." Nor did any of the other little Goebbels of Communist press.

But Obama was a loyal puppet of the deep state so there wasn't any reason for outrage

The Deep State is attacking Trump like they have NEVER attacked anyone before, because he poses a real threat to our corrupt kleptocracy.

No, as I said, he poses a threat to the deep state, if he did what they wanted they wouldn't attack him

Let me give you an example, remember when he launched beautiful missiles at Syria in support of the heroic white helmets (al Quada propaganda outfit)? The entire MSM was suddenly praising him and saying it was the first time he acted pretzeldential....