ninja007
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or OSAS (once saved always saved)? Why yes or why no? Or are you not sure? Interesting post hopefully coming.....
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The way of salvation is eternal. The door is eternally open. Forgiveness is eternally available.or OSAS (once saved always saved)? Why yes or why no? Or are you not sure? Interesting post hopefully coming.....
A very good evening to you, Ninja.hi Meri interesting thoughts.
A very good evening to you, Ninja.hi Meri interesting thoughts.
It is my thought that OSAS is shorthand and a not a very good way of explaining, "When a person commits to Christ, only that person has the power to break the commitment. Christ will not break the commitment. Without the consent of the individual, Satan has no power."
Further, those who are committed to Christ receive grace, strength, and guidance from the Holy Spirit, which helps them on their way.
Those who commit to Christ need to be forewarned: What is the cost? Are they willing to pay it? Do they have the wherewithal to complete what is their intention to build or conquer? We need to keep in mind the warning in Revelation: The lukewarm, Christ spits from his mouth--and--the way is narrow.
A very good evening to you, Ninja.hi Meri interesting thoughts.
It is my thought that OSAS is shorthand and a not a very good way of explaining, "When a person commits to Christ, only that person has the power to break the commitment. Christ will not break the commitment. Without the consent of the individual, Satan has no power."
Further, those who are committed to Christ receive grace, strength, and guidance from the Holy Spirit, which helps them on their way.
Those who commit to Christ need to be forewarned: What is the cost? Are they willing to pay it? Do they have the wherewithal to complete what is their intention to build or conquer? We need to keep in mind the warning in Revelation: The lukewarm, Christ spits from his mouth--and--the way is narrow.
hi Meri, pls call me Kevin. I understand what you are saying. You are looking at the long term "big" picture. I'm confident to say (not asking you to agree), that our POSITION in Christ changes the moment we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior. (pass from death to life) The OUTWORKING of that fact or event is a lifelong process. Is this a fair statement in your mind?
or OSAS (once saved always saved)? Why yes or why no? Or are you not sure? Interesting post hopefully coming.....
That depends on if you are saved by grace alone by faith alone.
Or did you decide to choose Jesus by your own work of faith.
Yes, it is possible to be very close with God, and then lose hope and give up on God, and get angry with God.
Well, thank you for explaining that. Next time I talk to God, I will thank him that I had you to explain things to me.Yes, it is possible to be very close with God, and then lose hope and give up on God, and get angry with God.
Category 2 (carnal faith, never saved).
Anyway, my own experience with God is that you can be really close to him, then get angry with him and walk away.
MaxGrit tells me I was never (really) saved, so I guess everything I went through meant nothing.
Seems like he's trying really hard to save a doctrine that runs counter to many people's experiences during their faith journey.