Do you realize that Trump will be the ONLY world leader who denies Climate Change?

[kaz]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Clean, renewable energy technology is nowhere near producing significant energy. We should keep developing it, but widespread deploying it is a massive waste of money. Your argument it's been set back is ridiculous. When we reach sufficient technical advancement to make it significant, we can deploy it. All we're doing is cutting back on all the wasteful deployment we're doing.

Here are two things that show the left again is hypocritical on this

1) Opposition to Nuclear power

2) Opposition to shutting down old coal plants and replacing them with clean burning coal and natural gas plants because they're still fossil fuel driven even though they are so much more clean burning.

It's the extremist whack jobs that you people are.

Those would have a massive impact on carbon emissions while all the renewable energy combined is a drop in the bucket. Like everything else, energy is a political issue to you people only

The government should scrap all the green energy boondoggles and spend all the money perfecting nuclear fusion. We are getting very close to have a working reactor. With a little money they could perfect the technology in 10 years.

Absolutely. I used to be in senior management at GE Nuclear Power. Then I moved up into GE Power. The energy policies of the left can best be described as stupid, it's clearly political agenda driven, not environmental driven. The CEO of Nuclear at the time commented to me the objective of the left is to stop progress, that's why they oppose nuclear power. I can't disagree with that.

I totally consider myself an environmentalist. Liberals think we don't live on the planet too just because we don't drive our views to elect Democrats. I don't call myself an environmentalist for obvious reasons ...

If they had nuclear fusion working today, the waco environmentalist would oppose it. Their big secret is that they don't really want humanity to have clean abundant energy. That would mean we could continue our materialist lifestyle, which is what they actually oppose. They want humans to suffer and go back to living like Medieval serfs.

Watched an interesting Ted Talk a while back. California has decommissioned so many nuclear plants, while not creating nearly enough green energy to make up for them, they've actually added the equivalent of 500,000 cars to their carbon footprint.

California's regulations are so extreme and expensive they build the power plants in Oregon and Nevada across their border. So what does that mean?

So ...their environment is no safer since the plants are still built just across the border. They have no control over them. It also leads to brown outs because on hot days those power plants prioritize energy to the State they are in instead of California. And they lose jobs and taxes because the plants aren't in California. So what is it they actually win in environment? Nothing. It's again the political extremism over any actual environmental benefit.

 

[kaz]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Clean, renewable energy technology is nowhere near producing significant energy. We should keep developing it, but widespread deploying it is a massive waste of money. Your argument it's been set back is ridiculous. When we reach sufficient technical advancement to make it significant, we can deploy it. All we're doing is cutting back on all the wasteful deployment we're doing.

Here are two things that show the left again is hypocritical on this

1) Opposition to Nuclear power

2) Opposition to shutting down old coal plants and replacing them with clean burning coal and natural gas plants because they're still fossil fuel driven even though they are so much more clean burning.

It's the extremist whack jobs that you people are.

Those would have a massive impact on carbon emissions while all the renewable energy combined is a drop in the bucket. Like everything else, energy is a political issue to you people only

The government should scrap all the green energy boondoggles and spend all the money perfecting nuclear fusion. We are getting very close to have a working reactor. With a little money they could perfect the technology in 10 years.

Absolutely. I used to be in senior management at GE Nuclear Power. Then I moved up into GE Power. The energy policies of the left can best be described as stupid, it's clearly political agenda driven, not environmental driven. The CEO of Nuclear at the time commented to me the objective of the left is to stop progress, that's why they oppose nuclear power. I can't disagree with that.

I totally consider myself an environmentalist. Liberals think we don't live on the planet too just because we don't drive our views to elect Democrats. I don't call myself an environmentalist for obvious reasons ...

If they had nuclear fusion working today, the waco environmentalist would oppose it. Their big secret is that they don't really want humanity to have clean abundant energy. That would mean we could continue our materialist lifestyle, which is what they actually oppose. They want humans to suffer and go back to living like Medieval serfs.

We've got some of them living up here in the woods, kinda like medieval serfs. They are not representative of the majority, anymore than the present rioters represent all libs. There is NOTHING wrong with moving the technology forward for clean abundant energy, except that it takes pennies from the pockets of those who are currently making a bundle off leaving things the way they are. Safe nuclear technology is fine by me. We have never had a nuclear disaster here. But we need to find a way to get rid of all the radioactive byproducts. Just burying it isn't a plan.

You have no desire to learn anything, do you? Everything I'm telling you is easily verifiable and it's going off your brain like water off a duck's back. You have no intellectual curiosity or honesty

 

[bripat9643]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Big business won't be the ones paying for it. We will. There is something wrong with spending $trillions to make the air and water 0.0001% cleaner.

I am glad that the schemes of the eco warriors have been set back. They are really just a bunch of communists trying to destroy capitalism.

We're doing okay here, but the Paris accords are more about getting the other industrialized countries on board. It's all one atmosphere. I hope Trump doesn't feel he has to do anything about that. This shouldn't have anything to do with political views--it's about money vs. breathable air and drinkable water. Maybe the regulations have gone too far--that would not surprise me, in some cases--but disrespecting the whole fundamental idea is irresponsible.

The air is cleaner now than it was in the 60s and 70s. Car emissions are down 98%. The thing with the left is that when you have a good political issue, you never want to stop fighting the war. The media just doesn't report the facts. The ozone hole has been closing for years and it's just not reported because it's good news and it counters the left agenda to use the environment to win elections

That nutbag Obama wants to make the principle refrigerant we use for air conditioning illegal. Can you imagine what this country would be like without air conditioning? The states of Florida, Texas, Arizona and Mississippi would become uninhabitable.

 

[OldLady]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

That has nothing to do with global warming though.

Really? Global warming has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels? I thought that was considered to be one of the reasons it is accelerating at such an historic pace.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Too late for what?

Here in Ohio the EPA forced us to have emission testing on cars every two years. After about ten years, they measured the pollution levels again, and it was no better than ten years earlier. So what did they do? They extended the program.

This has nothing to do with global warming or pollution, this has to do with more government control over our lives. That's why we are paying for a program that doesn't work and never has. So what they did is stop charging people for the tests and instead, raised cigarette taxes to pay for the multi-million dollar program. What difference does it makes who pays for it? It's still money out of our economy to make a bunch of kooks happy.

 

[kaz]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Clean, renewable energy technology is nowhere near producing significant energy. We should keep developing it, but widespread deploying it is a massive waste of money. Your argument it's been set back is ridiculous. When we reach sufficient technical advancement to make it significant, we can deploy it. All we're doing is cutting back on all the wasteful deployment we're doing.

Here are two things that show the left again is hypocritical on this

1) Opposition to Nuclear power

2) Opposition to shutting down old coal plants and replacing them with clean burning coal and natural gas plants because they're still fossil fuel driven even though they are so much more clean burning.

It's the extremist whack jobs that you people are.

Those would have a massive impact on carbon emissions while all the renewable energy combined is a drop in the bucket. Like everything else, energy is a political issue to you people only

The government should scrap all the green energy boondoggles and spend all the money perfecting nuclear fusion. We are getting very close to have a working reactor. With a little money they could perfect the technology in 10 years.

Absolutely. I used to be in senior management at GE Nuclear Power. Then I moved up into GE Power. The energy policies of the left can best be described as stupid, it's clearly political agenda driven, not environmental driven. The CEO of Nuclear at the time commented to me the objective of the left is to stop progress, that's why they oppose nuclear power. I can't disagree with that.

I totally consider myself an environmentalist. Liberals think we don't live on the planet too just because we don't drive our views to elect Democrats. I don't call myself an environmentalist for obvious reasons ...

If they had nuclear fusion working today, the waco environmentalist would oppose it. Their big secret is that they don't really want humanity to have clean abundant energy. That would mean we could continue our materialist lifestyle, which is what they actually oppose. They want humans to suffer and go back to living like Medieval serfs.

Absolutely they would. They have a long history of that. It's not even speculation.

Nuclear Power now is a huge threat to socialism. Carbon is a huge government hammer to control industry, nuclear power weakens that power. Our environment keeps getting cleaner anyway, it's a big threat to the Democrat party

 

[bripat9643]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Clean, renewable energy technology is nowhere near producing significant energy. We should keep developing it, but widespread deploying it is a massive waste of money. Your argument it's been set back is ridiculous. When we reach sufficient technical advancement to make it significant, we can deploy it. All we're doing is cutting back on all the wasteful deployment we're doing.

Here are two things that show the left again is hypocritical on this

1) Opposition to Nuclear power

2) Opposition to shutting down old coal plants and replacing them with clean burning coal and natural gas plants because they're still fossil fuel driven even though they are so much more clean burning.

It's the extremist whack jobs that you people are.

Those would have a massive impact on carbon emissions while all the renewable energy combined is a drop in the bucket. Like everything else, energy is a political issue to you people only

"Clean coal" technology is a myth. The term refers to coal that produces little CO2. The process of removing the CO2 from the emissions is so energy intensive that the result is that it produces almost no net energy, and it never will.

 

[OldLady]

Clean, renewable energy technology is nowhere near producing significant energy. We should keep developing it, but widespread deploying it is a massive waste of money. Your argument it's been set back is ridiculous. When we reach sufficient technical advancement to make it significant, we can deploy it. All we're doing is cutting back on all the wasteful deployment we're doing.

Here are two things that show the left again is hypocritical on this

1) Opposition to Nuclear power

2) Opposition to shutting down old coal plants and replacing them with clean burning coal and natural gas plants because they're still fossil fuel driven even though they are so much more clean burning.

It's the extremist whack jobs that you people are.

Those would have a massive impact on carbon emissions while all the renewable energy combined is a drop in the bucket. Like everything else, energy is a political issue to you people only

The government should scrap all the green energy boondoggles and spend all the money perfecting nuclear fusion. We are getting very close to have a working reactor. With a little money they could perfect the technology in 10 years.

Absolutely. I used to be in senior management at GE Nuclear Power. Then I moved up into GE Power. The energy policies of the left can best be described as stupid, it's clearly political agenda driven, not environmental driven. The CEO of Nuclear at the time commented to me the objective of the left is to stop progress, that's why they oppose nuclear power. I can't disagree with that.

I totally consider myself an environmentalist. Liberals think we don't live on the planet too just because we don't drive our views to elect Democrats. I don't call myself an environmentalist for obvious reasons ...

If they had nuclear fusion working today, the waco environmentalist would oppose it. Their big secret is that they don't really want humanity to have clean abundant energy. That would mean we could continue our materialist lifestyle, which is what they actually oppose. They want humans to suffer and go back to living like Medieval serfs.

We've got some of them living up here in the woods, kinda like medieval serfs. They are not representative of the majority, anymore than the present rioters represent all libs. There is NOTHING wrong with moving the technology forward for clean abundant energy, except that it takes pennies from the pockets of those who are currently making a bundle off leaving things the way they are. Safe nuclear technology is fine by me. We have never had a nuclear disaster here. But we need to find a way to get rid of all the radioactive byproducts. Just burying it isn't a plan.

You have no desire to learn anything, do you? Everything I'm telling you is easily verifiable and it's going off your brain like water off a duck's back. You have no intellectual curiosity or honesty

What have I not listened to? Coming up with highly partisan slam posts about environmentalists generally isn't overly intellectually honest either. Quit insulting and actually point me to something that isn't a Republican broken record and I will listen.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That nutbag Obama wants to make the principle refrigerant we use for air conditioning illegal. Can you imagine what this country would be like without air conditioning? The states of Florida, Texas, Arizona and Mississippi would become uninhabitable.

And that's what these people are all about. Think DumBama would do one day without AC in the summer time?

 

[Pop23]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

That has nothing to do with global warming though.

Really? Global warming has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels? I thought that was considered to be one of the reasons it is accelerating at such an historic pace.

Yet you have no proof, only theory.

 

[2aguy]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

That has nothing to do with global warming though.

Really? Global warming has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels? I thought that was considered to be one of the reasons it is accelerating at such an historic pace.

It hasn't increased...we are, in fact, in an 18 year stop to any warming......the models are wrong and yet the eco freaks kling to theicomputer models and hate red of western civilization...

 

[kaz]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

That has nothing to do with global warming though.

Really? Global warming has nothing to do with burning fossil fuels? I thought that was considered to be one of the reasons it is accelerating at such an historic pace.

You're obviously not keeping up on the issue. I'll bring you up to date. That claim is like a decade old. The data turned out to be so wrong the left had to rename global warming "climate change." Now they blame everything from forest fires to snowstorms on it.

Funny, growing up in Michigan we had snowstorms and tornadoes my whole life. I'm not sure how the climate is changing when we get them now ...

 

[bripat9643]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Clean, renewable energy technology is nowhere near producing significant energy. We should keep developing it, but widespread deploying it is a massive waste of money. Your argument it's been set back is ridiculous. When we reach sufficient technical advancement to make it significant, we can deploy it. All we're doing is cutting back on all the wasteful deployment we're doing.

Here are two things that show the left again is hypocritical on this

1) Opposition to Nuclear power

2) Opposition to shutting down old coal plants and replacing them with clean burning coal and natural gas plants because they're still fossil fuel driven even though they are so much more clean burning.

It's the extremist whack jobs that you people are.

Those would have a massive impact on carbon emissions while all the renewable energy combined is a drop in the bucket. Like everything else, energy is a political issue to you people only

The government should scrap all the green energy boondoggles and spend all the money perfecting nuclear fusion. We are getting very close to have a working reactor. With a little money they could perfect the technology in 10 years.

Absolutely. I used to be in senior management at GE Nuclear Power. Then I moved up into GE Power. The energy policies of the left can best be described as stupid, it's clearly political agenda driven, not environmental driven. The CEO of Nuclear at the time commented to me the objective of the left is to stop progress, that's why they oppose nuclear power. I can't disagree with that.

I totally consider myself an environmentalist. Liberals think we don't live on the planet too just because we don't drive our views to elect Democrats. I don't call myself an environmentalist for obvious reasons ...

If they had nuclear fusion working today, the waco environmentalist would oppose it. Their big secret is that they don't really want humanity to have clean abundant energy. That would mean we could continue our materialist lifestyle, which is what they actually oppose. They want humans to suffer and go back to living like Medieval serfs.

We've got some of them living up here in the woods, kinda like medieval serfs. They are not representative of the majority, anymore than the present rioters represent all libs. There is NOTHING wrong with moving the technology forward for clean abundant energy, except that it takes pennies from the pockets of those who are currently making a bundle off leaving things the way they are. Safe nuclear technology is fine by me. We have never had a nuclear disaster here. But we need to find a way to get rid of all the radioactive byproducts. Just burying it isn't a plan.

I'm talking about nuclear fusion. There are no byproducts. It's safer than a coal or natural gas plant. It's impossible for it to melt down or produce any fissionable material.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

..and, yet, Trump saw thousands and thousands of people celebrating in the streets when the Trade Centers fell.... Not everyone can say that. In fact, not anyone can say that.

Yeah but there is no proof that he didn't see it either. There is proof that you can't have conversations with dead people. You can have them with yourself thinking you're talking to people in the next world, but you can't actually do it.

 

[kaz]

There's nothing wrong with clean air and clean water. If you think big business will voluntarily go along with something that costs them money, you're nuts. I'm afraid the impetus for clean, renewable energy has once again been set back 50 years. By the time those folks that can't think with anything but their wallets get done, it will be too late.

Clean, renewable energy technology is nowhere near producing significant energy. We should keep developing it, but widespread deploying it is a massive waste of money. Your argument it's been set back is ridiculous. When we reach sufficient technical advancement to make it significant, we can deploy it. All we're doing is cutting back on all the wasteful deployment we're doing.

Here are two things that show the left again is hypocritical on this

1) Opposition to Nuclear power

2) Opposition to shutting down old coal plants and replacing them with clean burning coal and natural gas plants because they're still fossil fuel driven even though they are so much more clean burning.

It's the extremist whack jobs that you people are.

Those would have a massive impact on carbon emissions while all the renewable energy combined is a drop in the bucket. Like everything else, energy is a political issue to you people only

"Clean coal" technology is a myth. The term refers to coal that produces little CO2. The process of removing the CO2 from the emissions is so energy intensive that the result is that it produces almost no net energy, and it never will.

We aren't talking about the same thing. I'm not talking about using regular coal and removing the CO2 from the emissions, clean coal uses a type of coal that is cleaner burning. It's actually browner because it contains less carbon to begin with. It is more difficult to mine the coal and it's not as plentiful as traditional coal.

I'm not advocating that we go to only that. But it's reasonably part of the picture. The problem GE has with selling the turbines for clean coal in the US is that even though they meet emissions standards, government often blocks them because "coal." They don't want leftists hammering them for building a coal plant because again to the left, energy is a political issue, not an environmental one.

 

[NLT]

Even Putin believes in climate change.

Even North Korea signed the Paris accords.

Trump, the ONLY world leader who believes climate change is a hoax. And we know America has more science deniers than any other country when it comes to climate change.

I find that hilarious.

you believe in man made climate change?

 

[kaz]

The government should scrap all the green energy boondoggles and spend all the money perfecting nuclear fusion. We are getting very close to have a working reactor. With a little money they could perfect the technology in 10 years.

Absolutely. I used to be in senior management at GE Nuclear Power. Then I moved up into GE Power. The energy policies of the left can best be described as stupid, it's clearly political agenda driven, not environmental driven. The CEO of Nuclear at the time commented to me the objective of the left is to stop progress, that's why they oppose nuclear power. I can't disagree with that.

I totally consider myself an environmentalist. Liberals think we don't live on the planet too just because we don't drive our views to elect Democrats. I don't call myself an environmentalist for obvious reasons ...

If they had nuclear fusion working today, the waco environmentalist would oppose it. Their big secret is that they don't really want humanity to have clean abundant energy. That would mean we could continue our materialist lifestyle, which is what they actually oppose. They want humans to suffer and go back to living like Medieval serfs.

We've got some of them living up here in the woods, kinda like medieval serfs. They are not representative of the majority, anymore than the present rioters represent all libs. There is NOTHING wrong with moving the technology forward for clean abundant energy, except that it takes pennies from the pockets of those who are currently making a bundle off leaving things the way they are. Safe nuclear technology is fine by me. We have never had a nuclear disaster here. But we need to find a way to get rid of all the radioactive byproducts. Just burying it isn't a plan.

You have no desire to learn anything, do you? Everything I'm telling you is easily verifiable and it's going off your brain like water off a duck's back. You have no intellectual curiosity or honesty

What have I not listened to? Coming up with highly partisan slam posts about environmentalists generally isn't overly intellectually honest either. Quit insulting and actually point me to something that isn't a Republican broken record and I will listen.

I've given you a lot of information on energy. You're a leftist political hack who's making excuses to not learn, I have no interest in patting your head and spoon feeding it to you so you can pretend to listen to it

 

[Rustic]

Even Putin believes in climate change.

Even North Korea signed the Paris accords.

Trump, the ONLY world leader who believes climate change is a hoax. And we know America has more science deniers than any other country when it comes to climate change.

I find that hilarious.

Man-made climate change is absolutely a myth… Fact

 

[kaz]

That nutbag Obama wants to make the principle refrigerant we use for air conditioning illegal. Can you imagine what this country would be like without air conditioning? The states of Florida, Texas, Arizona and Mississippi would become uninhabitable.

And that's what these people are all about. Think DumBama would do one day without AC in the summer time?

No, everyone is equal, just some are more equal than others. Obama is more equal than others ...

I lived in the DC area many years and still have family there, so I'm there regularly. The limousine liberals are such hypocrites. There are so many things Democrats campaign against that don't apply to DC. For one thing, they have the most bypass traffic for a toll than any city I've ever seen. For a few shekels, you can drive past the common man who's less equal than you. Then of course they give themselves better pensions than social security, better healthcare than Obamacare.

At least the rich are spending their own money to get more. DC politicians are spending ours

 

[Vandalshandle]

Trump and the GOP doesn't believe in something the rest of the world does. Their answer is "so what?"

Will the world trust a serial contract breacher? Guess we'll find out.

The rest of the world? You mean every single person outside of the US?


I'll tell ya, the MSM has you people wrapped around their little finger, don't they? They have you convinced the "rest of the world" is behind global warming, most of the country was going to vote Hillary in on a landslide, and that the Republican party is a group of old white men slowly dying away.

Then when you find out it;s all BS, you sit there with a boo-boo face and can't figure out where you went wrong.

True, "the rest of the world" is an exaggeration. Only 175 nations agree that climate change is man made. I'm not sure that Monico signed the agreement.

175 nations sign historic Paris climate deal on Earth Day