Do you realize why these events are happening?

[RWS]

I agree, Isaac.

 

[RWS]

But it's deeper than that. It's the ones that are telling them to do these things.

 

[RWS]

And it ain't no god....

 

[Tehon]

They are angry powerless young men. As with young humans everywhere putting a gun in your hand makes you feel powerful. Using it more powerful. Forcing others to do what you want them to do more powerful. Raping females at your whim more powerful. Having the power of life and death over everyone else, the ultimate power for a human.

They are a larger angrier version of criminal gangs you see in every society. And they USE religion to justify what they do and recruit more angry powerless young men with the promise of holding sway over all the rest of humanity.

And we have to kill them.

Hardly different from the criminal gangs who use patriotism to recruit young men in to their efforts to control the earth's resources.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

They are angry powerless young men. As with young humans everywhere putting a gun in your hand makes you feel powerful. Using it more powerful. Forcing others to do what you want them to do more powerful. Raping females at your whim more powerful. Having the power of life and death over everyone else, the ultimate power for a human.

They are a larger angrier version of criminal gangs you see in every society. And they USE religion to justify what they do and recruit more angry powerless young men with the promise of holding sway over all the rest of humanity.

And we have to kill them.

Hardly different from the criminal gangs who use patriotism to recruit young men in to their efforts to control the earth's resources.

Then stop using those resources.

 

[asaratis]

Could it possibly be something very simple?

jus askin

I think the genesis of it is quite simple to understand. Demented males of a Stone Age mentality are following the maniacal teachings of a demented pedophile who lived around 600 AD and considered himself a spokesman for God, instilled fear in those around him and came up with the Koran (The Muslim equivalent of the Bible [the word of God]) which commands Muslims to kill all that do not follow the rules.

Mohammed Facts, information, pictures | Encyclopedia.com articles about Mohammed

I think the solution is also quite simple: Kill all radical Muslims and their children.

Over the centuries, there has developed a divide between radical and moderate Muslims, just as there is a divide between radical Christians and modern Christians. The 'fire and brimstone' preachers today will push The Old Testament teachings, such as 'an eye for an eye'...while the modern Christians will promote The New Testament teachings of Jesus, such as 'turn the other cheek'. The radical Muslims promote the commands in the Koran that call for the death of 'infidels' while the moderate Muslims are tolerant of other religions and realize that killing for the sake of religion is sub-human.

The prime difficulty in this simple solution is to identify the radicals. It has been estimated that about 10% of the Muslim population is composed of radicals. I suspect that it may be a bit higher than that, but still less than 20%. Identifying them is a formidable task. A start in this direction would be to take a hard look at those who preach radicalism...the Muslim Imams. Civilized countries should pass laws making such inciting a capital crime. If you preach that your followers should kill those that do not share your beliefs...you will receive the penalty of death. Start at the top...kill the radical Imams. If others take their places, kill them also. Eventually, the followers will get the message.

Attention should be focused on radical Muslim males. I seriously doubt that Muslim females share the views of their oppressive 'owners'. The females have been treated horribly inhumanely for centuries.

 

[Tehon]

They are angry powerless young men. As with young humans everywhere putting a gun in your hand makes you feel powerful. Using it more powerful. Forcing others to do what you want them to do more powerful. Raping females at your whim more powerful. Having the power of life and death over everyone else, the ultimate power for a human.

They are a larger angrier version of criminal gangs you see in every society. And they USE religion to justify what they do and recruit more angry powerless young men with the promise of holding sway over all the rest of humanity.

And we have to kill them.

Hardly different from the criminal gangs who use patriotism to recruit young men in to their efforts to control the earth's resources.

Then stop using those resources.

Why?

 

[gipper]

Could it possibly be something very simple?

jus askin

Yes. Radical Islam.

 

[Iceweasel]

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Every country on Earth has had its' fair share of problems. Blaming modern day problems on events long ago makes no sense. It also ignores the real problem, the militant Muslims are widespread and incredibly intolerant. They kill each other and did so before any European country stepped in.

There's nothing stopping them from living peacefully in the Middle East if they want it that way. But what they want is to conquer Western civilization, that's why they're on the move. Fools like you live in a sea of moral relativity and will get your throat cut while you are making excuses for them.

Why does it make no sense to understand why problems are problems?

People aren't born into a vacuum. History plays a massive part in who people are.

The US celebrates 4th July. Why? It's about identity. Every nation, every group of people, has their history which will shape how people see things.
You want to hide from all of that because..... because it's not convenient for your view?

I'm sorry, you don't get rid of reality, you can choose to ignore it, you can make reasons why we should ignore it, but it's still there.

Yes, militant Muslims are intolerant. So too are many Americans. So what? That doesn't explain why Islamic Muslims are more likely to commit terrorism. It also ignores the fact that MOST Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, where MORE people died.

You're talking about how bad these Muslims are for going to western countries and killing a few people. But you're not talking how bad western countries are for going to Muslim countries and invading, destabilising etc.

What we did in Iraq is FAR WORSE than 9/11, 7/7 in London, Madrid Bombings and the two Paris attacks, I mean they're all insignificant in comparison with Iraq's invasion and massive post war incompetence balls up.

There's nothing stopping them living peacefully. There's nothing stopping the US from pulling troops out of foreign countries that don't want them there and not invading other countries either. BUT THEY DON'T STOP.

The US is were it is for peace. That's what you don't get, you see the US as an enemy, like ISIS. What happened to my ancestors doesn't make me who or what I am, unlike terrorists or liberals, I am not a victim.

 

[asaratis]

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Every country on Earth has had its' fair share of problems. Blaming modern day problems on events long ago makes no sense. It also ignores the real problem, the militant Muslims are widespread and incredibly intolerant. They kill each other and did so before any European country stepped in.

There's nothing stopping them from living peacefully in the Middle East if they want it that way. But what they want is to conquer Western civilization, that's why they're on the move. Fools like you live in a sea of moral relativity and will get your throat cut while you are making excuses for them.

Why does it make no sense to understand why problems are problems?

People aren't born into a vacuum. History plays a massive part in who people are.

The US celebrates 4th July. Why? It's about identity. Every nation, every group of people, has their history which will shape how people see things.
You want to hide from all of that because..... because it's not convenient for your view?

I'm sorry, you don't get rid of reality, you can choose to ignore it, you can make reasons why we should ignore it, but it's still there.

Yes, militant Muslims are intolerant. So too are many Americans. So what? That doesn't explain why Islamic Muslims are more likely to commit terrorism. It also ignores the fact that MOST Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, where MORE people died.

You're talking about how bad these Muslims are for going to western countries and killing a few people. But you're not talking how bad western countries are for going to Muslim countries and invading, destabilising etc.

What we did in Iraq is FAR WORSE than 9/11, 7/7 in London, Madrid Bombings and the two Paris attacks, I mean they're all insignificant in comparison with Iraq's invasion and massive post war incompetence balls up.

There's nothing stopping them living peacefully. There's nothing stopping the US from pulling troops out of foreign countries that don't want them there and not invading other countries either. BUT THEY DON'T STOP.

The US is were it is for peace. That's what you don't get, you see the US as an enemy, like ISIS. What happened to my ancestors doesn't make me who or what I am, unlike terrorists or liberals, I am not a victim.

You are correct in that genetics does not determine one's philosophy. Putting aside the things that are determined by your DNA, you are a product of your environment and experiences that occurred after you were born. Even your religion is taught to you...not inherited.

 

[Iceweasel]

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Every country on Earth has had its' fair share of problems. Blaming modern day problems on events long ago makes no sense. It also ignores the real problem, the militant Muslims are widespread and incredibly intolerant. They kill each other and did so before any European country stepped in.

There's nothing stopping them from living peacefully in the Middle East if they want it that way. But what they want is to conquer Western civilization, that's why they're on the move. Fools like you live in a sea of moral relativity and will get your throat cut while you are making excuses for them.

Why does it make no sense to understand why problems are problems?

People aren't born into a vacuum. History plays a massive part in who people are.

The US celebrates 4th July. Why? It's about identity. Every nation, every group of people, has their history which will shape how people see things.
You want to hide from all of that because..... because it's not convenient for your view?

I'm sorry, you don't get rid of reality, you can choose to ignore it, you can make reasons why we should ignore it, but it's still there.

Yes, militant Muslims are intolerant. So too are many Americans. So what? That doesn't explain why Islamic Muslims are more likely to commit terrorism. It also ignores the fact that MOST Americans supported the invasion of Iraq, where MORE people died.

You're talking about how bad these Muslims are for going to western countries and killing a few people. But you're not talking how bad western countries are for going to Muslim countries and invading, destabilising etc.

What we did in Iraq is FAR WORSE than 9/11, 7/7 in London, Madrid Bombings and the two Paris attacks, I mean they're all insignificant in comparison with Iraq's invasion and massive post war incompetence balls up.

There's nothing stopping them living peacefully. There's nothing stopping the US from pulling troops out of foreign countries that don't want them there and not invading other countries either. BUT THEY DON'T STOP.

The US is were it is for peace. That's what you don't get, you see the US as an enemy, like ISIS. What happened to my ancestors doesn't make me who or what I am, unlike terrorists or liberals, I am not a victim.

You are correct in that genetics does not determine one's philosophy. Putting aside the things that are determined by your DNA, you are a product of your environment and experiences that occurred after you were born. Even your religion is taught to you...not inherited.

Yes, we don't live hundreds or even decades ago, we live now. DNA doesn't determine how you approach life and sure, we are all influenced by the world around us, it's what we do about it. My point is that we are not predetermined by the past, or the present for that matter.

 

[Meathead]

But back to France. Why France? It's not hard to see why. The French had their empire and they ruled it in a manner which was not always that great, but they made Algeria and places a part of France, before they got their independence. So many moved to France. But never really managed to integrate into society that well, a fault of French domestic policy for sure.

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Apparently, French opposition to the Iraq War didn't help them any more than Obama's apology tour helped America.

If the opposition to the American war and occupation of Iraq was the foundation for ISIS, it makes no sense the France would be targeted by that group in light of their vigorous objections to the invasion.

 

[dannyboys]

Just sayin....

Let's see who thinks they know!

This goes back a long way.

The British went into Afghanistan. The modern Jihad was born. It's simple really, the Afghans were never going to defeat the British with conventional troops, they didn't have the equipment. They found that giving people a fervor to fight helped their cause a lot more than military equipment. The British were kicked out, not once, but twice. This was the largest empire in the world, the most powerful army, and it lost to a bunch of Afghans who figured out how to defeat them.

Move forward in time and the Ottoman Empire was reduced to nothing, the French and British, the two big world players, took over. They carved up the Ottoman Empire.

Beyond this there were the Muslim countries that were interfered with by the British and French.

The British were in many Muslim countries, (to use the modern names) Egypt, Sudan, Kuwait, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria to name a few of those. Clearly the Muslims weren't too impressed at being taken over.

Iraq, for example, given a Saudi king by the British. Well Iraqi Nationalism took off after this. The consequences of this nationalism were the emergence of the Ba'ath Party and this was the launch pad for a certain Saddam Hussain.

Israel is another factor. The Muslims in the Middle East have never really gotten over this. It's sad as the Jews had and have so much to offer the region in terms of development, but it went the other way.

Then the US got in the game. Not only with supporting Israel, but also playing the oil game. Making sure it controlled oil. However the Cold War was more important.

Then came the end of the Cold War. US foreign policy was no long aligned with being against the "big evil", the USSR. It had gone, global dominance was there already. So foreign policy was about oil. Kuwait was invaded. The US and others had a lot of interest in getting the Iraqis out of Kuwait.

Interference by the US had gone in other Muslim countries for a while.

Then came Bush. Oh, and Hugo Chavez. Chavez wanted OPEC to be strong, why shouldn't it be?
Well the US helped a coup d'etat against him in 2002. It failed.
Then came the Iraq War.
Bush also wanted to take out Iran, but in fucking up Iraq so badly, this was never going to happen in his presidency.


But back to France. Why France? It's not hard to see why. The French had their empire and they ruled it in a manner which was not always that great, but they made Algeria and places a part of France, before they got their independence. So many moved to France. But never really managed to integrate into society that well, a fault of French domestic policy for sure.

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Thank You for your insights.
I would add, having lived in France, the 'Pure Laine' french used Algeria as their private slave garden.
They imported Algerians by the tens of thousands to do the hard work the fucking french didn't want to.
They made it so the Algerians barely survived. They were put in ghettos.
They were brutalized in every way imaginable.
The 'Coq au vins' have come home to roost.

 

[frigidweirdo]

But back to France. Why France? It's not hard to see why. The French had their empire and they ruled it in a manner which was not always that great, but they made Algeria and places a part of France, before they got their independence. So many moved to France. But never really managed to integrate into society that well, a fault of French domestic policy for sure.

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Apparently, French opposition to the Iraq War didn't help them any more than Obama's apology tour helped America.

If the opposition to the American war and occupation of Iraq was the foundation for ISIS, it makes no sense the France would be targeted by that group in light of their vigorous objections to the invasion.

No, it didn't. The French will lurch like many European countries depending on their government in power.

The problems in France are much deeper than this. In Britain it's mostly about 2003. But France, it's about ghettos of poor Algerians.

All of the attackers have come from France. There's a reason why.

Unfortunately, Obama trying to reign in US rhetoric was never going to work, Bush had sent the US and the west over the edge already.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Just sayin....

Let's see who thinks they know!

This goes back a long way.

The British went into Afghanistan. The modern Jihad was born. It's simple really, the Afghans were never going to defeat the British with conventional troops, they didn't have the equipment. They found that giving people a fervor to fight helped their cause a lot more than military equipment. The British were kicked out, not once, but twice. This was the largest empire in the world, the most powerful army, and it lost to a bunch of Afghans who figured out how to defeat them.

Move forward in time and the Ottoman Empire was reduced to nothing, the French and British, the two big world players, took over. They carved up the Ottoman Empire.

Beyond this there were the Muslim countries that were interfered with by the British and French.

The British were in many Muslim countries, (to use the modern names) Egypt, Sudan, Kuwait, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Nigeria to name a few of those. Clearly the Muslims weren't too impressed at being taken over.

Iraq, for example, given a Saudi king by the British. Well Iraqi Nationalism took off after this. The consequences of this nationalism were the emergence of the Ba'ath Party and this was the launch pad for a certain Saddam Hussain.

Israel is another factor. The Muslims in the Middle East have never really gotten over this. It's sad as the Jews had and have so much to offer the region in terms of development, but it went the other way.

Then the US got in the game. Not only with supporting Israel, but also playing the oil game. Making sure it controlled oil. However the Cold War was more important.

Then came the end of the Cold War. US foreign policy was no long aligned with being against the "big evil", the USSR. It had gone, global dominance was there already. So foreign policy was about oil. Kuwait was invaded. The US and others had a lot of interest in getting the Iraqis out of Kuwait.

Interference by the US had gone in other Muslim countries for a while.

Then came Bush. Oh, and Hugo Chavez. Chavez wanted OPEC to be strong, why shouldn't it be?
Well the US helped a coup d'etat against him in 2002. It failed.
Then came the Iraq War.
Bush also wanted to take out Iran, but in fucking up Iraq so badly, this was never going to happen in his presidency.


But back to France. Why France? It's not hard to see why. The French had their empire and they ruled it in a manner which was not always that great, but they made Algeria and places a part of France, before they got their independence. So many moved to France. But never really managed to integrate into society that well, a fault of French domestic policy for sure.

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Thank You for your insights.
I would add, having lived in France, the 'Pure Laine' french used Algeria as their private slave garden.
They imported Algerians by the tens of thousands to do the hard work the fucking french didn't want to.
They made it so the Algerians barely survived. They were put in ghettos.
They were brutalized in every way imaginable.
The 'Coq au vins' have come home to roost.

The problem is, many of the people with strong opinions, usually in the "bomb the fuck out of them", haven't been to Europe, let alone France. They have never studied about France, they have never taken the time to understand what's going on in France. Yet they have opinions based on what?

One guy summed it all up for me. I asked him to tell me about cows in Africa when we were discussing African problems. His reply was, I don't care about cows in Africa, I only care about what I want to care about. Views are made up from what is convenient, not what is the reality in most cases.

 

[Meathead]

But back to France. Why France? It's not hard to see why. The French had their empire and they ruled it in a manner which was not always that great, but they made Algeria and places a part of France, before they got their independence. So many moved to France. But never really managed to integrate into society that well, a fault of French domestic policy for sure.

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Apparently, French opposition to the Iraq War didn't help them any more than Obama's apology tour helped America.

If the opposition to the American war and occupation of Iraq was the foundation for ISIS, it makes no sense the France would be targeted by that group in light of their vigorous objections to the invasion.

No, it didn't. The French will lurch like many European countries depending on their government in power.

The problems in France are much deeper than this. In Britain it's mostly about 2003. But France, it's about ghettos of poor Algerians.

All of the attackers have come from France. There's a reason why.

Unfortunately, Obama trying to reign in US rhetoric was never going to work, Bush had sent the US and the west over the edge already.

No, one of the attackers at least came through Greece in last month. Algeria also has little to do with ISIS.

 

[Katzndogz]

But back to France. Why France? It's not hard to see why. The French had their empire and they ruled it in a manner which was not always that great, but they made Algeria and places a part of France, before they got their independence. So many moved to France. But never really managed to integrate into society that well, a fault of French domestic policy for sure.

So, you combine the world problems the west have caused Muslim countries, with domestic issues and bam, you have attacks in Paris occurring again and again.

Apparently, French opposition to the Iraq War didn't help them any more than Obama's apology tour helped America.

If the opposition to the American war and occupation of Iraq was the foundation for ISIS, it makes no sense the France would be targeted by that group in light of their vigorous objections to the invasion.

No, it didn't. The French will lurch like many European countries depending on their government in power.

The problems in France are much deeper than this. In Britain it's mostly about 2003. But France, it's about ghettos of poor Algerians.

All of the attackers have come from France. There's a reason why.

Unfortunately, Obama trying to reign in US rhetoric was never going to work, Bush had sent the US and the west over the edge already.

All of the attackers came from France? No. Some were peaceful refugees from Syria.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

They are angry powerless young men. As with young humans everywhere putting a gun in your hand makes you feel powerful. Using it more powerful. Forcing others to do what you want them to do more powerful. Raping females at your whim more powerful. Having the power of life and death over everyone else, the ultimate power for a human.

They are a larger angrier version of criminal gangs you see in every society. And they USE religion to justify what they do and recruit more angry powerless young men with the promise of holding sway over all the rest of humanity.

And we have to kill them.

Hardly different from the criminal gangs who use patriotism to recruit young men in to their efforts to control the earth's resources.

Then stop using those resources.

Why?

Because you're bitching about how they're acquired.

 

[SAYIT]

Just sayin....
Let's see who thinks they know!

In France it may well be as simple as the fact that Western Europe's largest Muslim population lives there.

 

[Neser Boha]

We weren't defended by God today, i mean "Humanity" was not defended by God today.

So many innocent people lost their lives. Again.

Left unprotected... as always.

All this suffering, over someone who doesn't give a poop. Apparently, God told them to kill those people, and God allowed them to die.

FUCK GOD!

And just carpet bomb the entire Middle East, wipe them all out of existence, turn our reliance on fossil fuels into alternative fuels like H so we don't care about their oil, and then split the oil profits among the 5 families.

The people in the ME have a very heavy belief in God and the afterlife. Maybe the afterlife is where they belong! Because they definitely DO NOT BELONG HERE ON EARTH!

Wow, it sure didn't take too long for you to go full retard ...