Lakhota
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Posting links to inaccurate stories is not a method of arguing a point, you really should learn that since you are one of the biggest whiners about people not arguing points.
Prove it wrong - with credible sources.
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Posting links to inaccurate stories is not a method of arguing a point, you really should learn that since you are one of the biggest whiners about people not arguing points.
What the fuck is the gun show loophole? Every licensed dealer is required to run a background check every time they sell a gun. That applies even at gun shows, which means the only loophole that exists is in your imagination.
You are correct. The same law applies to gun shows as applies everywhere else: dealers must run background checks and private sellers do not. Those people who can legally sell their gun to another party without doing a background check go to gun shows because they know potential buyers will be there. If private sales were no longer allowed at gun shows, sellers would simply advertise in the newspaper. Either way, a background check is not required.
At any rate, there is no such thing as the so-called "gun show loophole." If the issue is about background checks, perhaps those who favor stronger gun control should call it "private gun sellers loophole." I could live with that. At least it would make sense.
Like stated in the first post, the "gun show loophole" refferes to the private sale of guns.
Gun shows were started as, and at their core are for the sale of firearms by private sellers, but many "legitimate" sellers AKA firearm stores set up booths at these shows as well.
It's a very simple question that this thread is asking is that should there be background checks for all people that want to own a firearm, or should we leave the laws how they are so crooks, felons, and those out to commit crimes are able to obtain firearms with no questions asked under this loophole.
A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.
For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.
That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.
For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?
Once again, posting links is not making an argument, nor does it add content to the thread.
Posting links to inaccurate stories is not a method of arguing a point, you really should learn that since you are one of the biggest whiners about people not arguing points.
Prove it wrong - with credible sources.
Sooo, righties are now spinning that the "gun show loophole" doesn't really exist...?
Google "gun show loophole"...
A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.
For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.
That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.
For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?
There must be hundreds, since he insists that gun shows are mostly private citizens selling guns.
If you buy a gun from ANYONE, you should be required to undergo a background check.
I mean.................you have to liscence your car to run it on the roads, right?
More: Gun Show Loophole - Coalition to Stop Gun ViolenceUnfortunately, current federal law requires criminal background checks only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for just 60% of all gun sales in the United States. A loophole in the law allows individuals not engaged in the business of selling firearms to sell guns without a licenseand without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.
Though commonly referred to as the Gun Show Loophole, the private sales described above include guns sold at gun shows, through classified newspaper ads, the Internet, and between individuals virtually anywhere.
Unfortunately, only six states (CA, CO, IL, NY, OR, RI) require universal background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows. Three more states (CT, MD, PA) require background checks on all handgun sales made at gun shows. Seven other states (HI, IA, MA, MI, NJ, NC, NE) require purchasers to obtain a permit and undergo a background check before buying a handgun. Florida allows its counties to regulate gun shows by requiring background checks on all firearms purchases at these events. 33 states have taken no action whatsoever to close the Gun Show Loophole.
More: Gun Show Loophole - Coalition to Stop Gun ViolenceUnfortunately, current federal law requires criminal background checks only for guns sold through licensed firearm dealers, which account for just 60% of all gun sales in the United States. A loophole in the law allows individuals not engaged in the business of selling firearms to sell guns without a licenseand without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.
Though commonly referred to as the Gun Show Loophole, the private sales described above include guns sold at gun shows, through classified newspaper ads, the Internet, and between individuals virtually anywhere.
Unfortunately, only six states (CA, CO, IL, NY, OR, RI) require universal background checks on all firearm sales at gun shows. Three more states (CT, MD, PA) require background checks on all handgun sales made at gun shows. Seven other states (HI, IA, MA, MI, NJ, NC, NE) require purchasers to obtain a permit and undergo a background check before buying a handgun. Florida allows its counties to regulate gun shows by requiring background checks on all firearms purchases at these events. 33 states have taken no action whatsoever to close the Gun Show Loophole.
The Brady Campaign to Ban Every Fucking Gun on the Planet is hardly an objective source.
A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.
For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.
That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.
For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?
Another right winger already pulled this BS on the first page. This topic is asking the question if you support the "gun show loophole" which allows the private sale of firearms to people without a background check.
It's a simple yes or no,...
A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.
For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.
That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.
That 60% lie has been debunked so many times, yet you keep telling it. Grow up man.
Debunked by whom? Please show us some "credible" sources proving it has been factually debunked.
A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.
For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.
That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.
For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?
Another right winger already pulled this BS on the first page. This topic is asking the question if you support the "gun show loophole" which allows the private sale of firearms to people without a background check.
It's a simple yes or no,...
Posting links to inaccurate stories is not a method of arguing a point, you really should learn that since you are one of the biggest whiners about people not arguing points.
Prove it wrong - with credible sources.
A spin off of the other thread where I have asked numerous times and not a single right winger has answered, is if you support the gun show loophole.
For those that may not know, under current federal law if you wish to purchases a firearm, you have to be run in a background check to make sure you are not a felon, been convicted of a violent crime, been in a mental institution, etc,..before they give the go ahead to sell that person a weapon. However under the "gun show loophole", there are not background checks at all.
That's right, absoutly nothing. A violent thug fresh out of the penitentiary, a terrorist, or a nutcases ready to commit the next sandy hook could go down to their local gun show, or find a classified ad selling a firearm and they could purchase deadly weapons, with no questions asked.
Once again, posting links is not making an argument, nor does it add content to the thread.
The title speaks for itself. It's there for those who wish to read it...
For the slow and stupid..... All licensed dealers MUST conduct the background check even at a Gun Show. The only exception is a private citizen selling his own firearms. A booth costs 150 or more, exactly how many private citizens have the weapons to make selling them at that booth profitable?
There must be hundreds, since he insists that gun shows are mostly private citizens selling guns.
Impressive trollingbut let's get back on topic.
It's about the most simple question to be asked. Do you support the "gun show loophole" that allows people to acquire a firearm with no background check? Yes or no.
The Brady Campaign to Ban Every Fucking Gun on the Planet is hardly an objective source.
Prove the facts are wrong - with credible sources.