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As I said, you aren't going to win by just being "none of the above" and you aren't going to win if you don't even try winning. And you aren't going to win if you don't put forth great candidates.The candidates put forth by the other parties are better quality than what the duopoly offers. But the nation has become so divided that the thought for people like you to not vote for their chosen party is beyond thinking about. You will vote for whomever the GOP puts on their ballots.
They understand the reality of the situation in our country. Party loyalty is now the most important thing there is.
As I said, you aren't going to win by just being "none of the above" and you aren't going to win if you don't even try winning. And you aren't going to win if you don't put forth great candidates.
Yep...
Live in Ireland, we talk about politics all the time... Everything from local, national (Ireland), EU, Britain, US and other countries.... It is in the culture to talk about politics regularly and have a good discussion/arguement, but not to get angry.
IMHO, It makes thinks far more healthy, to be able to discuss like adults about subjects. And don't worry, you be factchecked on the spot (phone out and google)...
Not talking about thinks regularly leads people to go down their rabbit hole too much. You can see it on this forum, X can't be wrong because I believe in X. Lost the ability to discuss reasonably.
To not be able to discuss reasonably would mean you are not taken seriously and your opinion would be politely ignored.
There is no chance of winning when people are putting party before country.
That is what is happening today.
Maybe one day it will change, but not till our generation dies off
Not really.Do people talk about politics outside of a forum like this one?
Like in real life when you are with your friends or family.
We had dinner last night with 3 other couples at one of their houses and never once in 3 or so hours did anything to do with politics come up.
I golf with a very good friend whom I know supports Trump but we have never once talked about politics.
I cannot remember the last time I did outside of this forum.
You type so nice when you want to. Perhaps it is just another ruse. The progressive Party is the dominant one. The movement of the nation is clear. The elites use men and women who may feel they were not given much in rights in the past. The thing is Progs are acting as the people they denigrate or blame for the past. Forgetting that they are Americans, and it is not one way. The behaviors are incredibly wild with Progs although all people are represented. There is no way a civilization can act as we do without money chutes funding it. And that does not last. Teh world government people have billions of others who need our rich resources. And we have many people here at home who need it also. The printing press has limits. And we suffered with inflation for party legislation the first two years of Joe. The printing press causes problems not just at home but also overseas. Trump is bending over backwards and opening up his run for office to all or mostly all. This is how screwed up the Communists are on the other side.There is no chance of winning when people are putting party before country.
That is what is happening today.
Maybe one day it will change, but not till our generation dies off
I never bring it up but others try.Do people talk about politics outside of a forum like this one?
Like in real life when you are with your friends or family.
We had dinner last night with 3 other couples at one of their houses and never once in 3 or so hours did anything to do with politics come up.
I golf with a very good friend whom I know supports Trump but we have never once talked about politics.
I cannot remember the last time I did outside of this forum.
I see that your stubbornness is not allowing you to move on until I answer the simple question.Again, a simple question that you cannot answer without outing yourself perhaps.
I get it…you fanny-packing, Docker / loafer wearing beta homos have to believe everyone must be a pussy like you.No one believes YOU would ever look even an old woman in the eye in real life.
Cowards are indoctrinating globalist bitches willing to follow the programming set-forth by the state.You have admitted to being a coward many, many times.
Dude, you’re a fucking teacher. You have no business using the word tough.The tough guy thing really doesn't work for you.
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Dude, you’re a fucking teacher. You have no business using the word tough.
And you aren't going to win by blaming the voters. If you want to win the onus is on YOU. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life blaming voters for voting for the duopoly and losing year after year or do you want to look in the mirror and do something about it and actually win? The only thing you accomplish is being a spoiler and getting a democrat elected instead of a republican or a republican instead of a democrat. I don't like either of the two main parties either so give me someone or some party to actually vote for instead of just telling me I should vote for "none of the above".There is no chance of winning when people are putting party before country.
That is what is happening today.
Maybe one day it will change, but not till our generation dies off
Two things discourage political discussion or argument in our culture. The first is that few people can have a disagreement and not take it personally. I personally never understood that I had a problem in this area until I went to law school, and was forced to argue my position with facts and logic, while my counterpart was doing the same. Name-calling was simply verboten, so you had to get with the program or spend your time a very unhappy human. So I got over it and now I can argue without taking it personally. Most people cannot.
Second is the Trump factor, which I blame 100% on the political Left. Political arguments today usually take the following form: MAGA's (like me) talk facts and policies and want to argue why those policies are wise and beneficial. Lefties want to talk about what a bad person Trump is, and say or imply that anyone who would vote for him is either stupid or evil...or both.
You cannot have a "debate" in that way. You either talk people or you talk policy; you can't have one side talking policy and the other side talking people.
Come on Zinc….do better.
I love to talk policy, but not on this board. when opponents presume stupidity or bad faith, no discussion can be had.Come on Zinc….do better.
You are fully demonstrating exactly what lefties do when confronted with face to face political dissent.
Republican is articulate in stating his positions and rabid leftist is just smart enough to know he/she can’t do the same so they either don’t engage or inject goofy comedy to avoid dissent.
Harpy Eagle I wonder why you’ve so responsive to posts in this thread yet you decided to pretend you didn’t see DGS49 ’s post?
We talk a good bit of politics at my offices but since I wouldn’t dare hire a leftist there’s really no opposing point of views.Well this thread is certainly interesting.
Outside of bars and with family do posters talk politics in real life?
We talk a good bit of politics at my offices but since I wouldn’t dare hire a leftist there’s really no opposing point of views.
@Harpy Eagle I wonder why you’ve so responsive to posts in this thread yet you decided to pretend you didn’t see @DGS49 ’s post?
Representation Is a Re-Presentation of Perpetual Elitist TyrannyRoe is gone. The abortion issue is in the hands of the voters in each state which is the best possible outcome.
Cherchez la FemmeThe wife and I talk about it, as she makes me look like MAGA member, but I was I guess more thinking of while out with friends or such.
If you’re not talking policy on this board what are you talking about?I love to talk policy, but not on this board. when opponents presume stupidity or bad faith, no discussion can be had.
