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Holder gave one box of documents that had not one of his emails regarding fast and the furious to him or from him. One of the gun dealers involved in the program gave 4 boxes of documents.Of course Holder is not responsible for murdering a US Border Agent and it is ridiculous to frame the debate in those terms.
I agree, it was the post I was responding to that framed it like that.
And BigReb was responding to my response to that post.
The issue boils down to two things and two things only: 1) the necessity for Congress to have ability to monitor, review, and regulate the actions of all areas of our government, and 2) that the family of Brian Terry, the dead border agent, be able to know what happened to their loved one.
The family of Brian Terry knows exactly what happened to their loved one. He was shot by some Mexicans. Mexicans that were unaffiliated with the ATF or the US government.
We simply cannot have government agencies operating outside the reach and oversight of those we elect to govern. When that happens we are no longer a Republic but become a banana republic. Of course some government function must of necessity be done secretly and the oversight should be classified and behind closed doors. But when the Attorney General refuses to allow any oversight of any kind, Congress should and must act if we do not want rogue agencies operating outside of Congressional oversight.
The Attorney General has provided 9000 pages of documents to Congress to provide for their oversight mission. He has been cooperating with them the entire time up until this point, and they have found NOTHING to indicate any criminal activity or wrongdoing whatsoever.
Since they didn't find anything, they are now trying to crucify him for a report that he made a mistake on, and then later corrected.
And I don't blame him, or the administration, at all, for blocking their ridiculous grandstanding every inch of the way.
As I said, Congress is behaving like children, and I'm happy to see that someone is telling them to go fuck themselves.
Holder gave one box of documents that had not one of his emails regarding fast and the furious to him or from him. One of the gun dealers involved in the program gave 4 boxes of documents.
Issa Throws Down and Owns Holder Over Fast and Furious Emails Dec 8th 2011 - YouTube
Holder gave one box of documents that had not one of his emails regarding fast and the furious to him or from him. One of the gun dealers involved in the program gave 4 boxes of documents.
Issa Throws Down and Owns Holder Over Fast and Furious Emails Dec 8th 2011 - YouTube
Yes, there is no indication of criminality or wrongdoing in all those documents, and Holder didn't give out his personal e-mails to a political witch-hunt.
Holder is a high-up member of the Obama administration, and Obama gave him EP.
And?
You're coming to a conclusion before all the documents have been looked at.
Of course Holder is not responsible for murdering a US Border Agent and it is ridiculous to frame the debate in those terms.
I agree, it was the post I was responding to that framed it like that.
And BigReb was responding to my response to that post.
The issue boils down to two things and two things only: 1) the necessity for Congress to have ability to monitor, review, and regulate the actions of all areas of our government, and 2) that the family of Brian Terry, the dead border agent, be able to know what happened to their loved one.
The family of Brian Terry knows exactly what happened to their loved one. He was shot by some Mexicans. Mexicans that were unaffiliated with the ATF or the US government.
We simply cannot have government agencies operating outside the reach and oversight of those we elect to govern. When that happens we are no longer a Republic but become a banana republic. Of course some government function must of necessity be done secretly and the oversight should be classified and behind closed doors. But when the Attorney General refuses to allow any oversight of any kind, Congress should and must act if we do not want rogue agencies operating outside of Congressional oversight.
The Attorney General has provided 9000 pages of documents to Congress to provide for their oversight mission. He has been cooperating with them the entire time up until this point, and they have found NOTHING to indicate any criminal activity or wrongdoing whatsoever.
Since they didn't find anything, they are now trying to crucify him for a report that he made a mistake on, and then later corrected.
And I don't blame him, or the administration, at all, for blocking their ridiculous grandstanding every inch of the way.
As I said, Congress is behaving like children, and I'm happy to see that someone is telling them to go fuck themselves.
. . . .What we need is an honest thorough investigation so we know the facts and we need to see that these kind of things dont happen again, Dingell told the liberal outlet � a comment Democrats like House oversight committee ranking member Rep. Elijah Cummings have touted in their opposition to Fast and Furious accountability.
Congressional committees and the inspector general are currently conducting investigations into this matter, Dingell told The Daily Caller on one occasion. I have every reason to believe the IG and my Congressional colleagues are being thorough in their investigations, and I am confident they will do a good job. I am greatly looking forward to reviewing these reports, and if further evidence of wrongdoing by any parties is found then those parties certainly should be held accountable.
On another occasion, he said he thought Operation Fast and Furious was grossly irresponsible, and that [o]ver the years, I have been a harsh critic of ATF. It is clear in my mind that gun-walking tactics are illogical and should never have been used.
I was outraged the day I learned about this behavior, and I am still outraged to this day, Dingell said in December 2011. Furthermore, the fact that a constituent of mine, Agent Brian Terry, was killed in the line of duty because of this gross negligence on behalf of ATF makes this situation even more serious. Someone lost his life defending our nation because of the irresponsible decisions of a few.
And, when the Brian A. Terry Memorial Act passed Congress with unanimous bipartisan support, Dingells spokeswoman said he was sorrowful at the death of Brian Terry, a committed and brave public servant, and that Mr. Terrys life and service deserves to be honored in the proper way, and Congressman Dingell is glad to see the passage of the Brian A. Terry Memorial Act.
The Terry family disagrees with Dingells recent decision to side with the Democratic Party over pushing for answers on Fast and Furious. They say theyve been waiting for over 18 months for answers about Operation Fast and Furious and how it was related to Brians death.
If Rep. Dingell truly wants to support the Terry family and honor Brian Terry, a son of Michigan, he and other Congressmen will call for the Attorney General to immediately provide the documents requested by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, the Terry family said in a statement provided to The Daily Caller.
Dingell hasnt demanded Holder give up those documents. He also refuses to back the five House Democrats who openly support contempt proceedings against Holder because hes refused to provide Congress with documents � a sign hes siding with the Democratic Party over a bipartisan rebuke of Holders stonewalling. . . .
Brian Terry
The Brian Terry family does not agree with your opinion of this nor did the several Democrats who did vote with the Republicans:
What Holder should really do, is hand them all the documentation they desire, but first should redact everything contained therein, except the letters:
G-O-F-U-C-K-Y-O-U-R-S-E-L-F
In that video holder says he didn't know about fast and the furious in march 2011
In email exchanges with subordinates in February and March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder and the department's second-highest official expressed growing concern that something might have gone wrong in a federal gun-smuggling probe called Operation Fast and Furious.
Read more:
In that video holder says he didn't know about fast and the furious in march 2011
In email exchanges with subordinates in February and March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder and the department's second-highest official expressed growing concern that something might have gone wrong in a federal gun-smuggling probe called Operation Fast and Furious.
Read more: Holder emails: We 'need answers' on Fast and Furious | Fox News
They denied it in a February 4th 2011 letter to Congress. And in that letter .... Now , this iteration of Fast and Furious began in October of 2009.
The Brian Terry family does not agree with your opinion of this nor did the several Democrats who did vote with the Republicans:
The Brian Terry family has been emotionally manipulated by right-wing operatives, who should be ashamed of themselves for what they're doing.
In that video holder says he didn't know about fast and the furious in march 2011
In email exchanges with subordinates in February and March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder and the department's second-highest official expressed growing concern that something might have gone wrong in a federal gun-smuggling probe called Operation Fast and Furious.
Read more: Holder emails: We 'need answers' on Fast and Furious | Fox News
Try it began in October of 2009...
Fast and Furious Cover-up: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege to Protect Himself
They denied it in a February 4th 2011 letter to Congress. And in that letter .... Now , this iteration of Fast and Furious began in October of 2009.
I thought he wasn't supposed to have knowledge of this operation?In that video holder says he didn't know about fast and the furious in march 2011
In email exchanges with subordinates in February and March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder and the department's second-highest official expressed growing concern that something might have gone wrong in a federal gun-smuggling probe called Operation Fast and Furious.
Read more:
So?
Holder is guilty of what? Not telling a politically polarized Congress of his sensitive knowledge of an ongoing operation.
And that's it.
Wow. What a horrible criminal he is.
In that video holder says he didn't know about fast and the furious in march 2011
In email exchanges with subordinates in February and March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder and the department's second-highest official expressed growing concern that something might have gone wrong in a federal gun-smuggling probe called Operation Fast and Furious.
Read more: Holder emails: We 'need answers' on Fast and Furious | Fox News
Try it began in October of 2009...
Fast and Furious Cover-up: Obama Asserts Executive Privilege to Protect Himself
They denied it in a February 4th 2011 letter to Congress. And in that letter .... Now , this iteration of Fast and Furious began in October of 2009.
Yes we know that for justice sake don't know how high it goes. But we know that already.
In that video holder says he didn't know about fast and the furious in march 2011
In email exchanges with subordinates in February and March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder and the department's second-highest official expressed growing concern that something might have gone wrong in a federal gun-smuggling probe called Operation Fast and Furious.
Read more:
So?
Holder is guilty of what? Not telling a politically polarized Congress of his sensitive knowledge of an ongoing operation.
And that's it.
Wow. What a horrible criminal he is.
Really? wanting to know how your child was killed is manipulating? Wouldn't you want those responsible held accountable? Hell yes you would.
