Dobbs was the worst thing that could happen to Republicans.

An important point to the legalities of why this is done in this way is that if the child's head is allowed to exit while the child is still alive, then it is legally considered a live birth, and the child cannot then legally be killed. (Though the more extreme fringes of the baby-murdering crowd want to legalize killing a baby even after he has been born alive and healthy.) It is a legal technicality that allows the baby to be murdered, at this stage, just before removing his freshly-murdered body from the mother.
It looks like a fine line between a legal abortionist and a serial killer...

Kermit Barron Gosnell (born February 9, 1941) is an American former physician[3] and serial killer. He provided abortions at his clinic in West Philadelphia. Gosnell was convicted of the murders of three infants who were born alive after using drugs to induce birth, the manslaughter of one woman during an abortion procedure, and of several other medically related crimes
 
It looks like a fine line between a legal abortionist and a serial killer...

Kermit Barron Gosnell (born February 9, 1941) is an American former physician[3] and serial killer. He provided abortions at his clinic in West Philadelphia. Gosnell was convicted of the murders of three infants who were born alive after using drugs to induce birth, the manslaughter of one woman during an abortion procedure, and of several other medically related crimes
Yeah now if that was only an isolated incident that happens all the time and there has been eyewitness accounts of it
 
Democrat/deep state mentality

Most often the President issues orders with a word. Launch the attack. Rescue the hostages. Intercept the shipment of weapons. Those are direct orders heard and obeyed. Legal orders.

According to you, anyone who follows those orders can’t offer a defense if accused of a crime. I was ordered to is now hearsay evidence.
 
Before Dobbs, the Republicans could placate the Religious Right and Social Conservatives by speaking out against Abortion. This was essentially harmless. With Roe as the law of the land, there was no hope of actually doing anything. And best of all, the Republicans couldn’t be blamed for doing nothing. The Supreme Court had ruled and the poor politicians were powerless to do anything about it.

So some fool in the audience screams that “Abortion is Murder” and the politician could agree and lament about how awful it was and it’s a shame the Supremes gave us this awful ruling.

Then Dobbs came and the Republicans got what they said they wanted. Only, it’s not going the way they wanted.


Abortions have remained the same, and indications are that there has been an increase since Dobbs.

So the stated goal to stop abortions, has failed. They are about the same and even possibly increasing. So the “have to save lives” mentality is taking it right on the nose.

For decades polling indicated that most people supported a woman’s right to choose. The Anti Abortion people swore that these were push polls. They were fiction. These polls were lies. A vast majority wanted to save the unborn babies.

Even when Abortion was an issue in an election, the Republican would win. But nobody stopped to consider it might be because the voters didn’t think the politician could do anything about the issue.

Now of course we are in a post Dobbs world. The problem is that the Republicans don’t know what to do. It turns out the polls were right. The majority of voters actually are pro choice. In the meantime the Republicans have become defined by fierce opposition to Abortion.

It is worse for Trump. He proudly announced he had done this. He had packed the court with anti abortion Judges who overturned Roe.

The Republicans are now demanding that the important issues, the ones that matter are the economy, and immigration, and the deficit. The voters appear to think Abortion is pretty important.
Abortion is at 6%
 
I’ve got to stick up for my daughter’s and my granddaughter’s right to privacy when she grows. When the trailer Park MAGA and Republican Party leave her alone I’ll extend my tolerance their way.

What do you think of forcing them to share locker rooms, dressing rooms, communal showers, restrooms, and such with mentally- and morally-fucked up male perverts that claim to be “trans women”?

Which party is it that wants to allow that shit, and which party is it that wants to protect them from it?
 
No, I mean how this bloated fuck bought hundreds of illegal painkillers, doctor shopped at multiple physicians to keep up with pills, and then sent his maid out to buy more. And he got a nice rehab while the poor kid who has been waiting for months for a methadone program gets jail time if he's caught holding.

No, Brown people aren't voting for Trump, that's why you keep losing elections.

You post crap from Wingnut sources I don't even bother clicking on.

You mean a drawing of an imaginary procedure? OOOOH, you have a drawing.

What the drawings don't show is that the fetus, in these cases, is so horrifically deformed that it won't survive an hour outside the womb.
1. You keep typing lies with no proof about Rush. We all know Hunter was/is a druggie.
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2. Hispanics red vote is rising. Trump in 2016 and 2020, especially in Miami.
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3. I post credible sources. You just can't handle the truth.

4. The barbaric procedure is real, its documented. Dr. Kermit Gosnell used it all the time. Its a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION.
Kermit Barron Gosnell (born February 9, 1941) is an American former physician[3] and serial killer. He provided abortions at his clinic in West Philadelphia. Gosnell was convicted of the murders of three infants who were born alive after using drugs to induce birth, the manslaughter of one woman during an abortion procedure, and of several other medically related crimes

In 2011, Gosnell was reported to be well known in Philadelphia for providing abortions to poor minority and immigrant women.[26] It was also claimed that he charged $1,600–$3,000 for each late-term abortion, and made $10,000-$15,000 per day from the clinic.[27][28] Gosnell was also associated with clinics in Delaware and Louisiana. Atlantic Women's Services in Wilmington, Delaware, was Gosnell's place of work one day a week. The owner of Atlantic Women's Services, Leroy Brinkley, also owned Delta Clinic of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and facilitated the hiring of staff from there for Gosnell's operation in Philadelphia.[29]

5. You don't know the condition of the fetus during a late term abortion, all late term abortions are legal in (7) blue states, including "partial birth abortions".
 
It looks like a fine line between a legal abortionist and a serial killer...

Kermit Barron Gosnell (born February 9, 1941) is an American former physician[3] and serial killer. He provided abortions at his clinic in West Philadelphia. Gosnell was convicted of the murders of three infants who were born alive after using drugs to induce birth, the manslaughter of one woman during an abortion procedure, and of several other medically related crimes

No line at all between them.

An abortionist •IS• a serial killer.
 
Not murder, charging them with an illegal abortion.

You think a fetus isn't a person, others think differently.
The only opinion that counts is the woman it's inside.

If you guys really think abortion is murder, you need to charge some poor woman with murder for aborting her rapist's fetus.
 
1. You keep typing lies with no proof about Rush. We all know Hunter was/is a druggie.
So was Limbaugh. He got on the radio and admitted it.

2. Hispanics red vote is rising. Trump in 2016 and 2020, especially in Miami.
Actually, the Republican Hispanic vote is still well below what it was in 2004, when Dubya had the good sense to not call them "Rapists" and "Murderers". Clearly you don't know how to read a chart.


4. The barbaric procedure is real, its documented. Dr. Kermit Gosnell used it all the time. Its a PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION.
Kermit Gosnell was just a shitty doctor. It's what happens when you don't have health care as a right and women have to go to quacks.
 
What do you think of forcing them to share locker rooms, dressing rooms, communal showers, restrooms, and such with mentally- and morally-fucked up male perverts that claim to be “trans women”?

Um, big deal. Separate bathrooms is a pretty recent development in architecture. Before that, you had communal privies and people just did their business.
 
The only opinion that counts is the woman it's inside.

If you guys really think abortion is murder, you need to charge some poor woman with murder for aborting her rapist's fetus.

Nope. That's the joy and curse of a free society with constitutional laws.

actually charge the doctors, go to the source.
 
Nope. That's the joy and curse of a free society with constitutional laws.

actually charge the doctors, go to the source.
You can't call yourself a free society and then force a child to have their rapist's baby.

The doctors aren't the source, the women are.

Now, I'd love to see us live in a society where women always use contraception and only get into relationships with men who are good father material.

We don't live in that society. So women will need abortions.
 
You can't call yourself a free society and then force a child to have their rapist's baby.

The doctors aren't the source, the women are.

Now, I'd love to see us live in a society where women always use contraception and only get into relationships with men who are good father material.

We don't live in that society. So women will need abortions.

I'm all for a rape exception, my view on a 10-12 week limit on birth control abortions covers that.

You need to breathe, you don't need abortions, you WANT abortions.
 
If it happens spontaneously it's less of an issue then people pushing for it. That reduces trust in the system.

Just like many on the right don't trust the current election process.
There’s always going to be morons. :dunno:
It’s best practice to not indulge their moronic perceptions.
 
The only opinion that counts is the woman it's inside.

If you guys really think abortion is murder, you need to charge some poor woman with murder for aborting her rapist's fetus.
They can’t phony up to the bargaining table with Demicratsc proposing a fifteen week national ban because that allows 800 to 900,000 Baby Fetuses being “murdered” a year.

And they cannot play God to save the life of the mother ever when Baby Fetus is about to make it’s presence in the world known If it’s murder at conception; it is certainly a higher degree of murder during the ninth month at a 8lb stage with sufficient neurological development to live on it’s own.


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