Doctors are coming out in droves saying hydroxychloroquine works

Status
Not open for further replies.
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.

What I do know, is that we aren’t really using it and our mortality rate is improving.
Dr's are using off lable and getting great results.. Only left wing echo chambers are screaming at the sky and ignoring the facts.
You have stories like this, which are difficult to ignore.

They’re quite easy to ignore actually. Random doctors from their own little clinics make claims all the time that are not backed up the way they should be.

That’s not how evidence based medicine works.
Did you read his background? Very impressive. I do not believe he is lying.
This Dr Steven Smith is just some random community doctor. Same with this Dr Robin Armstrong and that random NY GP Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. What’s so impressive?
He went to Yale....pretty impressive.
In medicine, graduating medical school is barely the beginning of a career. If that’s all, then it’s not very impressive.
How many %wise in the US would have that sort of acumen and especially from Yale? Less than 1%...to me its very impressive. And he is not fat.

If you're still fat in today's day and age then you deserve everything you get. You're better off smoking.
 
Everyone knew that the opposition to Hydroxychloroquine was motivated by Hatred of Trump and had nothing to do with science. Although the Fact that no one was going to make money from selling a cheap pill didn't help either.

Tremendous World Leaders like the Salvadorian President Bukele agreed with Trump.
It's not just hatred of Trump.

The Left is also motivated by the Hatred of their fellow man.

The Left Hates this Great Nation and will ALWAYS opt for a sick America in decline.

Interesting. The way I see it, much of the entitled, selfish, asshole behavior that makes headlines seems to be coming from Cult45.
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.
My thought is if there are no to minimal side effects then take it. But I am not a doctor. I have had COVID. Didn't need drugs to get rid of it.

The real issue is that our country is fat and unhealthy and neither party is discussing it. Fattest country in the world. It is a shame. And what do we do? We close all the gyms but leave liquor stores open and now deliver food in multiple ways. So we get fatter and more unhealthy, which is what virus prey on.

Pretty stupid.

The reason the USA is fat and unhealthy is that people don't have cheap access to health care for all. Access to emergency rooms or free clinics is not the same thing as having a good GP, and a team of specialists, as needed who track your health, your care, and to get on your ass to make heathier choices.
thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard,,,
The unhealthiest people are the impoverished who have the least access. There’s a serious correlation between unhealthy activity and lack of medical access.
Bullshit. Young black kids are the best athletes. Many if not most come from poor areas. You can eat healthy and cheaply. Beans are cheap for instance and very healthy. Lettuce and other vegetables are fairly cheap. I don't buy this because the wealthy and middle class are also fat.
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
better than 100%? wow, there you go folks. this fk has a pill that does better than 100%. science.
Some people will believe anything.
the irony of that statement is so sweet.
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.
My thought is if there are no to minimal side effects then take it. But I am not a doctor. I have had COVID. Didn't need drugs to get rid of it.

The real issue is that our country is fat and unhealthy and neither party is discussing it. Fattest country in the world. It is a shame. And what do we do? We close all the gyms but leave liquor stores open and now deliver food in multiple ways. So we get fatter and more unhealthy, which is what virus prey on.

Pretty stupid.

The reason the USA is fat and unhealthy is that people don't have cheap access to health care for all. Access to emergency rooms or free clinics is not the same thing as having a good GP, and a team of specialists, as needed who track your health, your care, and to get on your ass to make heathier choices.
thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard,,,
The unhealthiest people are the impoverished who have the least access. There’s a serious correlation between unhealthy activity and lack of medical access.
once again you lie while ignoring overwhelming evidence of the topic at hand,,,

what do you think about what dr Risch published in the article I provided for you twice???
 
Everyone knew that the opposition to Hydroxychloroquine was motivated by Hatred of Trump and had nothing to do with science. Although the Fact that no one was going to make money from selling a cheap pill didn't help either.

Tremendous World Leaders like the Salvadorian President Bukele agreed with Trump.
It's not just hatred of Trump.

The Left is also motivated by the Hatred of their fellow man.

The Left Hates this Great Nation and will ALWAYS opt for a sick America in decline.

Interesting. The way I see it, much of the entitled, selfish, asshole behavior that makes headlines seems to be coming from Cult45.


I laugh
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.

What I do know, is that we aren’t really using it and our mortality rate is improving.
Dr's are using off lable and getting great results.. Only left wing echo chambers are screaming at the sky and ignoring the facts.
You have stories like this, which are difficult to ignore.

They’re quite easy to ignore actually. Random doctors from their own little clinics make claims all the time that are not backed up the way they should be.

That’s not how evidence based medicine works.
Did you read his background? Very impressive. I do not believe he is lying.
This Dr Steven Smith is just some random community doctor. Same with this Dr Robin Armstrong and that random NY GP Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. What’s so impressive?
He went to Yale....pretty impressive.
In medicine, graduating medical school is barely the beginning of a career. If that’s all, then it’s not very impressive.
How many %wise in the US would have that sort of acumen and especially from Yale? Less than 1%...to me its very impressive. And he is not fat.

If you're still fat in today's day and age then you deserve everything you get. You're better off smoking.
It takes a lot more than that to make a name in the medical community.
 
View attachment 368204
Democrats get
Triggered




Everyone knew that the opposition to Hydroxychloroquine was motivated by Hatred of Trump and had nothing to do with science. Although the Fact that no one was going to make money from selling a cheap pill didn't help either.

Tremendous World Leaders like the Salvadorian President Bukele agreed with Trump.
There were also afraid that the pill would Rob them of the crisis they needed. In other words that it might have been effective.

Jo
 
No idea who she is or what she’s doing. I only know what the data shows, which in medicine is the only thing that should count.
And, just what exactly do YOU think the data shows?


The data shows that people being cured and given hope really hurts Sleepy Joe's chances. The D's are doing their best to create an atmosphere of despair, which they feel will help the VP's chances against Trump.
Bingo....
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
better than 100%? wow, there you go folks. this fk has a pill that does better than 100%. science.
Some people will believe anything.
the irony of that statement is so sweet.
You believe fringe conspiracy theories, so you’re judgement is horseshit.
 
From your link:

Conclusions and relevance
In this multi-hospital assessment, when controlling for COVID-19 risk factors, treatment with hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality. Prospective trials are needed to examine this impact.


You really aren't very good at this are you?
They didn't count patients that were being treated with HCQ if they died within 48 hours.
Again ignoring the drugs limitations to bash Trump. We know if the body is alreadt attacking itself the drug is limited on what it can do. Good thing your not a doctor, you have idiot tatooed on your forehead..
Good thing you're not an English teacher. That aside, their figures don't pan out. aside from excluding deaths withing 48 hours, those receiving neither medicine were older than the other groups. The older the patient, the less likely they are to survive.
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
View attachment 368215are you calling her a liar?

No idea who she is or what she’s doing. I only know what the data shows, which in medicine is the only thing that should count.
She's a quack whose webpage was taken down ... today...

Its not just her there were dozens of other doctors front line doctors that spoke to trumps miracle drug.
name them?


A Houston doctor who praises hydroxychloroquine and says that face masks aren’t necessary to stop transmission of the highly contagious coronavirus has become a star on the right-wing internet, garnering tens of millions of views on Facebook on Monday alone. Donald Trump Jr. declared the video of Stella Immanuel a “must watch,” while Donald Trump himself retweeted the video.

Before Trump and his supporters embrace Immanuel’s medical expertise, though, they should consider other medical claims Immanuel has made—including those about alien DNA and the physical effects of having sex with witches and demons in your dreams.

Immanuel, a pediatrician and a religious minister, has a history of making bizarre claims about medical topics and other issues. She has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.
Curious, do you wear glasses? do you know, can you wear glasses and a mask? The answer is no. Want to know why not? ask and I will let you know.

Oh, and if the mouth is the dangerous point of the spread, why do they swab with a nine inch swab up into one's sinus? Why not swab the inside of the mouth?
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.

What I do know, is that we aren’t really using it and our mortality rate is improving.
Dr's are using off lable and getting great results.. Only left wing echo chambers are screaming at the sky and ignoring the facts.
You have stories like this, which are difficult to ignore.

They’re quite easy to ignore actually. Random doctors from their own little clinics make claims all the time that are not backed up the way they should be.

That’s not how evidence based medicine works.
Did you read his background? Very impressive. I do not believe he is lying.
This Dr Steven Smith is just some random community doctor. Same with this Dr Robin Armstrong and that random NY GP Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. What’s so impressive?
He went to Yale....pretty impressive.
In medicine, graduating medical school is barely the beginning of a career. If that’s all, then it’s not very impressive.
How many %wise in the US would have that sort of acumen and especially from Yale? Less than 1%...to me its very impressive. And he is not fat.

If you're still fat in today's day and age then you deserve everything you get. You're better off smoking.
It takes a lot more than that to make a name in the medical community.
To some. Given his educational background and experience I'd trust him. Do you have a medical degree?
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.
My thought is if there are no to minimal side effects then take it. But I am not a doctor. I have had COVID. Didn't need drugs to get rid of it.

The real issue is that our country is fat and unhealthy and neither party is discussing it. Fattest country in the world. It is a shame. And what do we do? We close all the gyms but leave liquor stores open and now deliver food in multiple ways. So we get fatter and more unhealthy, which is what virus prey on.

Pretty stupid.

The reason the USA is fat and unhealthy is that people don't have cheap access to health care for all. Access to emergency rooms or free clinics is not the same thing as having a good GP, and a team of specialists, as needed who track your health, your care, and to get on your ass to make heathier choices.
thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard,,,
The unhealthiest people are the impoverished who have the least access. There’s a serious correlation between unhealthy activity and lack of medical access.
Bullshit. Young black kids are the best athletes. Many if not most come from poor areas. You can eat healthy and cheaply. Beans are cheap for instance and very healthy. Lettuce and other vegetables are fairly cheap. I don't buy this because the wealthy and middle class are also fat.
That’s your evidence? Young black athletes? You’re not being logical here.

You really aren’t thinking about populations, but picking out subsets to justify your perspective.
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.

What I do know, is that we aren’t really using it and our mortality rate is improving.
Dr's are using off lable and getting great results.. Only left wing echo chambers are screaming at the sky and ignoring the facts.
You have stories like this, which are difficult to ignore.

They’re quite easy to ignore actually. Random doctors from their own little clinics make claims all the time that are not backed up the way they should be.

That’s not how evidence based medicine works.
Did you read his background? Very impressive. I do not believe he is lying.
This Dr Steven Smith is just some random community doctor. Same with this Dr Robin Armstrong and that random NY GP Dr. Vladimir Zelenko. What’s so impressive?
He went to Yale....pretty impressive.
In medicine, graduating medical school is barely the beginning of a career. If that’s all, then it’s not very impressive.
How many %wise in the US would have that sort of acumen and especially from Yale? Less than 1%...to me its very impressive. And he is not fat.

If you're still fat in today's day and age then you deserve everything you get. You're better off smoking.
It takes a lot more than that to make a name in the medical community.
To some. Given his educational background and experience I'd trust him. Do you have a medical degree?
Sounding impressive to you isn’t exactly the point.
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.
My thought is if there are no to minimal side effects then take it. But I am not a doctor. I have had COVID. Didn't need drugs to get rid of it.

The real issue is that our country is fat and unhealthy and neither party is discussing it. Fattest country in the world. It is a shame. And what do we do? We close all the gyms but leave liquor stores open and now deliver food in multiple ways. So we get fatter and more unhealthy, which is what virus prey on.

Pretty stupid.

The reason the USA is fat and unhealthy is that people don't have cheap access to health care for all. Access to emergency rooms or free clinics is not the same thing as having a good GP, and a team of specialists, as needed who track your health, your care, and to get on your ass to make heathier choices.
thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard,,,
The unhealthiest people are the impoverished who have the least access. There’s a serious correlation between unhealthy activity and lack of medical access.
Bullshit. Young black kids are the best athletes. Many if not most come from poor areas. You can eat healthy and cheaply. Beans are cheap for instance and very healthy. Lettuce and other vegetables are fairly cheap. I don't buy this because the wealthy and middle class are also fat.
That’s your evidence? Young black athletes? You’re not being logical here.

You really aren’t thinking about populations, but picking out subsets to justify your perspective.
If all the poor are kidnapped by aliens we would still be fat. How is that?
 
Not sure what they are giving now, but that was part of the standard cocktail our local hospital was using to treat patients during the first months.
I haven’t seen it used in months. We’ve moved on to things with far better data.
You saw it used firsthand?
In the early days, but I can’t remember the last time I saw it used.
Did it work?
Hard to know.
Therein lies the problem.
Exactly. It requires rigorous analysis.
My thought is if there are no to minimal side effects then take it. But I am not a doctor. I have had COVID. Didn't need drugs to get rid of it.

The real issue is that our country is fat and unhealthy and neither party is discussing it. Fattest country in the world. It is a shame. And what do we do? We close all the gyms but leave liquor stores open and now deliver food in multiple ways. So we get fatter and more unhealthy, which is what virus prey on.

Pretty stupid.

The reason the USA is fat and unhealthy is that people don't have cheap access to health care for all. Access to emergency rooms or free clinics is not the same thing as having a good GP, and a team of specialists, as needed who track your health, your care, and to get on your ass to make heathier choices.
thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard,,,
The unhealthiest people are the impoverished who have the least access. There’s a serious correlation between unhealthy activity and lack of medical access.
Bullshit. Young black kids are the best athletes. Many if not most come from poor areas. You can eat healthy and cheaply. Beans are cheap for instance and very healthy. Lettuce and other vegetables are fairly cheap. I don't buy this because the wealthy and middle class are also fat.
That’s your evidence? Young black athletes? You’re not being logical here.

You really aren’t thinking about populations, but picking out subsets to justify your perspective.
If all the poor are kidnapped by aliens we would still be fat. How is that?
america doesnt have any poor people in it,,,
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Forum List

Back
Top