Does a Nation Have the Right to Demand Affection and Assimilation from its Immigrants?

[Silver Blooded]

People don't immigrate to the USA to become American, anymore -- They do it to get free shit and access to luxuries. My great grandfather on my dad's side came here from Greece. My father tells me he was obsessed about becoming American. Becoming American was his reason for moving here.

Now they come here to be oppressed.... Oppressed by free shit handed out by the government.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Up my ass, Ricky.

That is not a complete sentence, teacher.

 

[percysunshine]

USMB needs an entire forum devoted to stupid questions.

This thread would make more sense that way.

 

[Unkotare]

The article below is about a subgroup of Muslims in Australia who do not want their children to be forced to say the Australian Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Australian national anthem.


Muslims whine that singing the national anthem is “forced assimilation” and it offends them

it depends on your definitions of "affection" and "assimilation"

requiring them to say the pledge of allegiance is fine.

demanding that they change their religion is not.

We are the only country on the planet that has a pledge of allegiance.

Wrong

 

[BuckToothMoron]

The article below is about a subgroup of Muslims in Australia who do not want their children to be forced to say the Australian Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Australian national anthem.


Muslims whine that singing the national anthem is “forced assimilation” and it offends them

it depends on your definitions of "affection" and "assimilation"

requiring them to say the pledge of allegiance is fine.

demanding that they change their religion is not.

We are the only country on the planet that has a pledge of allegiance.

That’s not what google says-

According to question and answer site, Quora, (a site where questions are asked, answered, edited, and organized by its community of users) only a handful of countries mimic the United States' pledge of allegiance tradition:

• Mexico[1]
• Philippines[2]
• India[3]
• China[4]
• Singapore[5]
• Turkey

 

[Lastamender]

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

Quote From Theodore Roosevelt on Immigration and Assimilation? - Truth or Fiction?

 

[night_son]

The article below is about a subgroup of Muslims in Australia who do not want their children to be forced to say the Australian Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Australian national anthem.


Muslims whine that singing the national anthem is “forced assimilation” and it offends them

Cultural assimilation to the generationally established prevailing culture(s) of a nation is key to the social and societal stability of whatever nation. A fast example: in America we do not force women to cover themselves in anything but fashionable (or not) clothing, while traveling or working or whatever in public. Thus, when an immigrant arrives from a nation where such is the norm, he or she must adapt to our socially accepted cultural norms, unless adhering to the old ways is strictly voluntary. Also, in America we do not encourage or permit the raping of women in public, stoning them to death for any offense or allowing adult men to marry prepubescent girls. Sometimes; frankly, more often than not, forced cultural assimilation is absolutely necessary for everyone's benefit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

We are the only country on the planet that has a pledge of allegiance.

This is simply not true.

South Korea has a pledge of allegiance.
Pledge of Allegiance (South Korea) - Wikipedia

The Phillipines has a pledge to their nations flag as we do.
Pledge of Allegiance to the Philippine Flag - Wikipedia

The Bahamas have a pledge of allegiance
Pledge of Allegiance (Bahamas) - Wikipedia

The Aussies have a 'citizenship of affirmation'
Australian citizenship affirmation - Wikipedia
...and an oath to the monarch of the some country or another.
Oath of Allegiance (Australia) - Wikipedia

India has a national pledge
National Pledge (India) - Wikipedia

The Fijis have an oath in their Constitution
1997 Constitution of Fiji: Chapter 17 - Wikipedia

Ca-Nada has an oath of allegiance to the monarch of the UK
Oath of Allegiance (Canada) - Wikipedia

Even New Zealand has an oath of allegiance
Oath of Allegiance (New Zealand) - Wikipedia


Sweden
Oath of Allegiance (Sweden) - Wikipedia

Singapore
Does a Nation Have the Right to Demand Affection and Assimilation from its Immigrants?

South Africa
South African schools pledge - Wikipedia

etc, etc, etc

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[JimBowie1958]

why even mention racism?? !!??

Because some people only have a hammer.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The article below is about a subgroup of Muslims in Australia who do not want their children to be forced to say the Australian Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Australian national anthem.


Muslims whine that singing the national anthem is “forced assimilation” and it offends them

it depends on your definitions of "affection" and "assimilation"

requiring them to say the pledge of allegiance is fine.

demanding that they change their religion is not.

We are the only country on the planet that has a pledge of allegiance.

That’s not what google says-

According to question and answer site, Quora, (a site where questions are asked, answered, edited, and organized by its community of users) only a handful of countries mimic the United States' pledge of allegiance tradition:

• Mexico[1]
• Philippines[2]
• India[3]
• China[4]
• Singapore[5]
• Turkey

I listed a few more in post #28

 

[JimBowie1958]

Sometimes, we're a buncha boneheads.

Only some times?

You can do better than that, surely.

 

[OldLady]

The article below is about a subgroup of Muslims in Australia who do not want their children to be forced to say the Australian Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Australian national anthem.


Muslims whine that singing the national anthem is “forced assimilation” and it offends them

it depends on your definitions of "affection" and "assimilation"

requiring them to say the pledge of allegiance is fine.

demanding that they change their religion is not.

We are the only country on the planet that has a pledge of allegiance.

That’s not what google says-

According to question and answer site, Quora, (a site where questions are asked, answered, edited, and organized by its community of users) only a handful of countries mimic the United States' pledge of allegiance tradition:

• Mexico[1]
• Philippines[2]
• India[3]
• China[4]
• Singapore[5]
• Turkey

Thanks! That's what I get for believing another poster here. I heard it during the furor over kneeling for the anthem.

 

[OldLady]

The article below is about a subgroup of Muslims in Australia who do not want their children to be forced to say the Australian Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Australian national anthem.


Muslims whine that singing the national anthem is “forced assimilation” and it offends them

it depends on your definitions of "affection" and "assimilation"

requiring them to say the pledge of allegiance is fine.

demanding that they change their religion is not.

We are the only country on the planet that has a pledge of allegiance.

That’s not what google says-

According to question and answer site, Quora, (a site where questions are asked, answered, edited, and organized by its community of users) only a handful of countries mimic the United States' pledge of allegiance tradition:

• Mexico[1]
• Philippines[2]
• India[3]
• China[4]
• Singapore[5]
• Turkey

I listed a few more in post #28

India, Australia, China, Singapore and the Philippines seem to have their kids recite it at school and everyone chant it at patriotic events.
The rest of the countries on Jim and Bucktooth's lists just have oaths of office, basically, for politicians and the military, etc.

Good to know; thanks again.

 

[Olde Europe]

Does a Nation Have the Right to Demand Affection and Assimilation from its Immigrants?

Yes, of course, and in the same way, and to the same extent, a nation has the right to demand affection from "government invariably is the problem" dimwits and assimilation from "molon labe" mouth breathers.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The article below is about a subgroup of Muslims in Australia who do not want their children to be forced to say the Australian Pledge of Allegiance or sing the Australian national anthem.


Muslims whine that singing the national anthem is “forced assimilation” and it offends them

China is right.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Does a Nation Have the Right to Demand Affection and Assimilation from its Immigrants?

Yes, of course, and in the same way, and to the same extent, a nation has the right to demand affection from "government invariably is the problem" dimwits and assimilation from "molon labe" mouth breathers.

Yes. Liberals should assimilate