Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

[NotfooledbyW]

PoliticalChic, post: 19687688

Actually, he said that to a young woman who stated.....clearly....that her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens" who might be "fearful of voting."

That's a lie.

The young woman CLEARLY stated "if I vote" and Obama's response was " when you vote you are a citizen yourself"

Obama did not say "you are an undocumented citizen yourself"

Major fail for your lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic, post: 19687688

Actually, he said that to a young woman who stated.....clearly....that her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens" who might be "fearful of voting."

That's a lie.

The young woman CLEARLY stated "if I vote" which is singular and you do know the difference between the pronouns "I" and "they".

You say she was speaking 'clearly' for undocumented citizens although she is s legal citizen which is more lies.

If she were 'clear' she would have said, "if they vote".

She didn't, you are a liar.

"if I vote" as an "undocumented citizen"


Actually, he said that to a young woman who stated.....clearly....that her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens" who might be "fearful of voting."


Of course, citizens would hardly be 'fearful of voting."





Transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidentialin terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

The exact words in the exact order.




See how that works?





And.....of course, millions followed the snake's instructions, and voted.

 

[OldLady]

Inasmuch as all the people noted below have asserted that there is no material incidence of voter fraud, I think that if unauthorized individuals vote, it's not worth ushering to the front of the line, as it were, the fact that on rarefied occasions an unauthorized person here and there does cast a vote that shouldn't count.

Hey einstein. You haven't addressed what this thread is about. By supporting daca and dapa democrats proved they do not care about our immigration laws. So why should they enforce laws against illegals voting when letting them vote will help the democrats immensely.?? THINK

They're not all criminal minded like you.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

"if I vote" as an "undocumented citizen"

You are a liar. Gina Rodriquez did not say that.

Why not go by what she actually said.

And fear of voting does not mean that undocumented citizens fear voting themselves. The fear citizens voting that live with then,

 

[PoliticalChic]

"if I vote" as an "undocumented citizen"

You are a liar. Gina Rodriquez did not say that.

Why not go by what she actually said.

And fear of voting does not mean that undocumented citizens fear voting themselves. The fear citizens voting that live with then,

I never lie.

We're gonna prove it together.


"if I vote" as an "undocumented citizen"


Actually, he said that to a young woman who stated.....clearly....that her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens" who might be "fearful of voting."


Of course, citizens would hardly be 'fearful of voting."





Transcript:

RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us?

OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidentialin terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

The exact words in the exact order.




See how that works?





And.....of course, millions followed the snake's instructions, and voted.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

PoliticalChic, post: 19687785

Actually, he said that to a young woman who stated.....clearly....that her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens" who might be "fearful of voting."

Wouldn't she be speaking most clearly if indeed she was intent on speaking for (plural) "undocumented citizens" by saying "if they vote" instead of misleading and confusing her audience by saying "if I vote" as she did?

You see the target audience of undocumented citizens must know the what "I" means and what 'they" means even if you don't know the difference.

You mention "clearly" but have know explanation as to how saying singular "if I vote" is supposed to convey the message plural "if they vote".and be clear.

Only a right wing lying hack could put in writing that "I" means "they or "them" and call that being clear.

Three things are clear. Gina said exactly what she said meaning "if she herself" voted. There is no need for your revised version of clear and you are a liar.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

PoliticalChic, post: 19688266

If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.

Why did Obama say that to Gina after confirming that he knew she was a citizen herself if Obama was intent on telling all undocumented people it's ok to vote? Your lie makes no sense.

Wouldn't he have to say you need to get all your undocumented family members to vote.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

PolChic "....her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"...."

PolChic had to use "as though" for something that she wants to appear to be the case when it is not. Or she tried to give a possible explanation that "I" means "they" when a young Latino journalist is speaking with a black president.

PoliticalChic, post: 19688266

Actually, he said that to a young woman who stated.....clearly....that her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens" who might be "fearful of voting."

As though? You were bound to mess up eventually.

As though definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary
https://www.collinsdictionary.com › as-th...
phrase. You use as if and as though when you are giving a possible explanation for something or saying that something appears to be the case when it is not.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

No way that 13% of illegal aliens voted. I'd say it was probably around 80% (at least)

I've been saying the same thing. Illegals have a huge incentive to vote since they need the open borders & welfare party in power. 80% sounds about right.

 

[Faun]

Every time you cut and paste that nonsense, you get bitchslapped for yet, yet you keep repeating it.

Your own source, the LA Times, says illegals are not being registered. Yet you keep repeating your lie that the LA Times says illegals will be registered.

How would the Times, or anybody, know if illegals were registering and/or voting ? As long as the illegals don't stand there and say "I'm an illegal alien", how would they know ?

Because they have to be able to prove they're here legally in order to qualify for a regular license. If they can do that, they get registered to vote along with a driver's license. If they can't prove they're here legally, they only qualify for an AB60 driver's license and they are not registered to vote.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Republicans can't find anyone to prosecute and there is nothing stopping them. Except the fact that no illegals are voting.

Hey einstein. We have secret ballots in america and that makes it tough to catch someone in the act. That's why the best proof illegals are voting is that obama and democrats gave millions of them amnesty to live here in direct contradiction of laws that say they can't live here!! For you to then say that democrats do enforce the laws against illegals voting is preposterous.

 

[Faun]

PolChic "....her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens"...."

PolChic had to use "as though" for something that she wants to appear to be the case when it is not. Or she tried to give a possible explanation that "I" means "they" when a young Latino journalist is speaking with a black president.

PoliticalChic, post: 19688266

Actually, he said that to a young woman who stated.....clearly....that her query was as though she was speaking for "undocumented citizens" who might be "fearful of voting."

As though? You were bound to mess up eventually.

As though definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary
https://www.collinsdictionary.com › as-th...
phrase. You use as if and as though when you are giving a possible explanation for something or saying that something appears to be the case when it is not.

"as though" means PoliticalHack is speaking for herself.

And PoliticalHack has proven she's an unabashed liar.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

It’s not hard to identify non-citizen voting — and many people are looking.


ShootSpeeders, post: 19690787,

We have secret ballots in america and that makes it tough to catch someone in the act.

Secret Ballots are not how authorities catch illegal voters.

If an undocumented citizen registers to vote and actually votes, they may not get caught in the act, but their name is entered on voters lists. The only secret they have after that is for whom they voted.

You are stakeholder. You can scrutinize those voter roles if you think non-citizens are voting.

The Actually True and Provable Facts About Non-Citizen Voting

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It’s not hard to identify non-citizen voting — and many people are looking.

Unlike voter impersonation fraud, which is also exceptionally rare, non-citizen voting involves ineligible persons registering and voting in their own names. If a non-citizen were to vote, their name would be permanently listed in the record of persons who voted in that election as well as on the list of registered voters in that jurisdiction for as long as they remain registered. Those lists can be reviewed or compared to lists of non-citizens to identify anyone that was ineligible to vote. List comparisons are often unreliable because the databases states rely on do not contain up-to-date citizenship status and because of common names causing false matches. These flaws, however, make it likely that investigations will overstate the number of ineligible voters rather than let some go by unnoticed.
The registration and voting records enable several different stakeholders to identify any non-citizens who voted in an election. First, state election officials are required by law to regularly scour the voter rolls for ineligible voters. Many have used the list comparison technique to comb through their entire list of registered voters, and still found minimal evidence of non-citizens voting. In 2012, Florida conducted this type of analysis of its list of 12 million registered, active voters. At first the state believed it had identified 180,000 potential ineligible voters by searching a state database with out-of-date citizenship information. Upon further investigation, the state narrowed that list down to 2,600 and sent it on to county election officials for review. After the counties conducted their own investigations, Florida removed just 85 ineligible registrants from their statewide list and only one person was convicted for fraud. Investigations in Colorado, Iowa, Michigan, and Ohio ended similarly.

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Non-citizen voting is very rare.

Multiple nationwide studies have uncovered only a handful of incidents of non-citizens voting. Based on state prosecution records, votes by non-citizens account for between 0.0003 percent and 0.001 percent of all votes cast. Election officials agree that there is no serious problem of non-citizen voting in our elections. The National Association of Secretaries of State, whose Republican-majority membership includes the chief elections officers of 40 states, said they “are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump.”

Federal law and the law of every state prohibit non-citizens from registering to vote or voting in elections (save for a few municipalities that allow non-citizen residents to vote in local elections). Experts believe that the severity of the penalties for violating these laws serve as a significant deterrent.

Also, it is relatively easy for a non-citizen to get caught. If an ineligible person intentionally registers or votes, not only do they risk being recognized, but their name will be on permanent lists of voters for later detection. And, as discussed below, lots of people scrutinize those lists looking for potentially ineligible voters, increasing the chances of getting caught. Again, when discovered, non-citizens face fines, time in prison, and deportation.

You tell others to think. You show that you don't know what thinking is.

 

[protectionist]

Are you talking about Melenia Trump, and how she brought her parents into the country?

No, I'm talking about millions of Mexicans, sent by Mexico to establish Mexico's # 1 source of income >> pillaging the US economy by remittances$$ (currently $28 Billion/year - the Vikings would be envious)

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2016

 

[Reasonable]

With his DACA and DAPA programs Obozo gave millions of these criminal invaders a certificate telling them they can live and work here even though the LAW SAYS THEY CAN DO NEITHER!!! And yet democrats tell us they were strict about enforcing the laws against illegals voting. HAHAHAHA

Obama ENCOURAGED the illegals to vote both 2012 and 16 and they did by the millions. It's extremely important to an illegal that the open borders and welfare party be in power. They undoubtedly vote at a higher rate than citizens do.

Trump got a study together run by a far right senator from Kansas to see if “ Millions of illegals voted.”
Conclusion: No evidence it happened.
Didn’t Fox ever tell you that?
The dumbfuck prez just said “ millions of illegals voted in Cali” completely ignoring his own study.
It’s hard work being this stupid and being that much a liar.
I see you’re trying to emulate him.

 

[Reasonable]

Are you talking about Melenia Trump, and how she brought her parents into the country?

No, I'm talking about millions of Mexicans, sent by Mexico to establish Mexico's # 1 source of income >> pillaging the US economy by remittances$$ (currently $28 Billion/year - the Vikings would be envious)

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2016

 

[protectionist]

Trump got a study together run by a far right senator from Kansas to see if “ Millions of illegals voted.”
Conclusion: No evidence it happened.
Didn’t Fox ever tell you that?
The dumbfuck prez just said “ millions of illegals voted in Cali” completely ignoring his own study.
It’s hard work being this stupid and being that much a liar.
I see you’re trying to emulate him.

HA HA. Listen to the liberal talking about a study.

1. There was no study. the states wouldn't cooperate any give any information.

2. No need for at study. We all know illegals vote en masse. We see them voting. Does one need a study to determine if fish can swim ? You look in the water, and see them swimming. Give us a break!

Liberals love to use studies as a way to push FALSE ideas.

 

[protectionist]

Irrelevant. Mexico will pay no matter what these thieving Mexicans decide. They have no say in it. US will simply TAKE the money.

 

[protectionist]

Secret Ballots are not how authorities catch illegal voters.

If an undocumented citizen registers to vote and actually votes, they may not get caught in the act, but their name is entered on voters lists. The only secret they have after that is for whom they voted.

You are stakeholder. You can scrutinize those voter roles if you think non-citizens are voting.

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This will catch illegal voters and stop them ? HOW ?

 

[protectionist]

"as though" means PoliticalHack is speaking for herself.

And PoliticalHack has proven she's an unabashed liar.

YOU are an unabashed liar, by posting the100% FALSE lying video for your signature. YOU KNOW it's a lie. That makes you a LIAR.