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Whatever the Canaanite were doing, they obviously angered the God of the Middle East enough that He sentenced them all including women and children and all animals to death.Who said a god has to be perfect? The Abrahamic god isn't claimed to be perfect or omnipotent or not vengeful etc in the Old Testament. Christianity started adding to the character.Because an actual, perfect omnipotent deity would possess none of those failings.But how does that make it not real? Why can't a god be totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive, violent, or an asshole?Absolutely not. The God of the Bible is a totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive and violent asshole.
I'm confused. Are you saying there is more than one God or that Jesus was not divine?Unless of course your own doctrine confuses Jesus with the God of the Old Testament and confuses the God of the Old Testament with Jesus in the New Testament.
Who said a god has to be perfect? The Abrahamic god isn't claimed to be perfect or omnipotent or not vengeful etc in the Old Testament. Christianity started adding to the character.Because an actual, perfect omnipotent deity would possess none of those failings.But how does that make it not real? Why can't a god be totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive, violent, or an asshole?Absolutely not. The God of the Bible is a totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive and violent asshole.
Who said a god has to be perfect? The Abrahamic god isn't claimed to be perfect or omnipotent or not vengeful etc in the Old Testament. Christianity started adding to the character.Because an actual, perfect omnipotent deity would possess none of those failings.But how does that make it not real? Why can't a god be totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive, violent, or an asshole?Absolutely not. The God of the Bible is a totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive and violent asshole.
A son-of-a-bitch who's in bed with killing all first borns and accommodating beheadings needs a little self examination and correction. The old testament god set up rules impossible to adhere to:
Death Penalty Sins
Adultery (Lev 20:10-12, (man and woman).
- Lying about virginity. Applies to girls who are still in their fathers' homes, who lie about their virginity, and are presented to their husband as a virgin. The accused is guilty until proved innocent. (Deut 22:20-21).
- Making love to a virgin pledged to be married to another. Applies to man who deflowers virgin pledged to be married, and to the virgin if she does not call for help. (Deut 22:23-24).
- The daughter of a priest practicing prostitution (death by fire) (Lev 21:9).
- Rape of someone who is engaged. If she is not engaged you only have to marry her and give her father 50 shekels. No mention is made of the girl’s opinion. (Deut 22:25).
- Men practicing bestiality. (Both man and animal die). (Lev 20:15)
- Women practicing bestiality (Both woman and animal die). (Lev 20:16)
- Having sex with your father’s wife, as distinct from "your mother", as it was common practice for men at the time to have several wives. (both die). (Lev 20:20).
- Having sex with your daughter in law. (Lev 20:30)
- Incest. (Lev 20:17)
- Male homosexuality (Lev 20:13).
- Marrying a woman and her daughter. They are all burnt to death (Lev 20:14)
- Worshiping idols (Ex 22:20, Lev 20:1-5, Deut 17:2-7).
- Blasphemy (Lev 24:14-16,23).
- Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14, Numb 15:32-36).
- Practicing magic (Ex 22:18).
- Being a medium or spiritualist. (stoning) (Lev 20:27).
- Trying to convert people to another religion. (stoning) (Deut 13:1-11, 18:20).
- Apostasy - If most people in a town come to believe in a different god. (Kill everybody, including animals, and burn the town.) (Deut 13:12-15)
- Giving one of your descents to Molech. Probably refers to human sacrifice and is not now commonly practiced in the west. (Lev 20:2)
- Non-priests going near the tabernacle when it is being moved. (Numb 1:51)
- Being a false prophet. (Deut 132:5, Deut 18:20, Zech 13:2-3)
- Striking your parents (Ex 21:15).
- Cursing your parents (Ex 21:17, Lev 20:9).
- Being a stubborn and rebellious son. And being a profligate and a drunkard. (stoning) (Quite a few of us might have a problem with this one)(Deut 21:18-21)
- Murder. However if a slave is beaten to death the owner is “punished” — not necessarily killed. If the slave survives the beating then there is no punishment. (Gen 9:6, Ex 21:12, Numb 35:16-21). This is part of a wide range of slavery laws in the Old and New Testament.
- Kidnapping and selling a man. This is really a law against making an Israelite a slave against his will. (Ex 21:16).
- Perjury (in certain cases) (Deut 19:15 - 21). Deut 19:20 explicitly identifies that the purpose of this is deterrence. "The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing (malicious and false testimony by one man against another) be done among you." Presumably all the other death penalties are assumed to be for deterrence as well.
- Ignoring the verdict of a judge – (or a priest!) (Deut 17:8-13).
- Not penning up a known dangerous bull, if the bull subsequently kills a man or a woman. (Ex 21:29) Both the animal and the reckless owner of the dangerous bull are to be put to death.
- Living in a city that failed to surrender to the Israelites. (Kill all the men, make the women and children slaves.) Deut 20:12-14.
- The following carry the punishment of being "cut off from his people". Some people seem to feel that this is the same as the death penalty.
- A male who is not circumcised. Genesis 17:14
- Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15
- Manufacturing anointing oil. Exodus 30:33
- Engaging in ritual animal sacrifices other than at the temple. Leviticus 17:1-9
- Sexual activity with a woman who is menstruating: Leviticus 20:18
- Consuming blood: This would presumably include eating rare meat and black pudding. Also see above. Leviticus 17:10.
- Eating peace offerings while ritually unclean: Leviticus 7:20
- Waiting too long before consuming sacrifices: Leviticus 19:5-8
- Going to the temple in an unclean state: Numbers 19:13
Who said a god has to be perfect? The Abrahamic god isn't claimed to be perfect or omnipotent or not vengeful etc in the Old Testament. Christianity started adding to the character.Because an actual, perfect omnipotent deity would possess none of those failings.But how does that make it not real? Why can't a god be totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive, violent, or an asshole?Absolutely not. The God of the Bible is a totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive and violent asshole.
A son-of-a-bitch who's in bed with killing all first borns and accommodating beheadings needs a little self examination and correction. The old testament god set up rules impossible to adhere to:
Death Penalty Sins
Adultery (Lev 20:10-12, (man and woman).
- Lying about virginity. Applies to girls who are still in their fathers' homes, who lie about their virginity, and are presented to their husband as a virgin. The accused is guilty until proved innocent. (Deut 22:20-21).
- Making love to a virgin pledged to be married to another. Applies to man who deflowers virgin pledged to be married, and to the virgin if she does not call for help. (Deut 22:23-24).
- The daughter of a priest practicing prostitution (death by fire) (Lev 21:9).
- Rape of someone who is engaged. If she is not engaged you only have to marry her and give her father 50 shekels. No mention is made of the girl’s opinion. (Deut 22:25).
- Men practicing bestiality. (Both man and animal die). (Lev 20:15)
- Women practicing bestiality (Both woman and animal die). (Lev 20:16)
- Having sex with your father’s wife, as distinct from "your mother", as it was common practice for men at the time to have several wives. (both die). (Lev 20:20).
- Having sex with your daughter in law. (Lev 20:30)
- Incest. (Lev 20:17)
- Male homosexuality (Lev 20:13).
- Marrying a woman and her daughter. They are all burnt to death (Lev 20:14)
- Worshiping idols (Ex 22:20, Lev 20:1-5, Deut 17:2-7).
- Blasphemy (Lev 24:14-16,23).
- Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14, Numb 15:32-36).
- Practicing magic (Ex 22:18).
- Being a medium or spiritualist. (stoning) (Lev 20:27).
- Trying to convert people to another religion. (stoning) (Deut 13:1-11, 18:20).
- Apostasy - If most people in a town come to believe in a different god. (Kill everybody, including animals, and burn the town.) (Deut 13:12-15)
- Giving one of your descents to Molech. Probably refers to human sacrifice and is not now commonly practiced in the west. (Lev 20:2)
- Non-priests going near the tabernacle when it is being moved. (Numb 1:51)
- Being a false prophet. (Deut 132:5, Deut 18:20, Zech 13:2-3)
- Striking your parents (Ex 21:15).
- Cursing your parents (Ex 21:17, Lev 20:9).
- Being a stubborn and rebellious son. And being a profligate and a drunkard. (stoning) (Quite a few of us might have a problem with this one)(Deut 21:18-21)
- Murder. However if a slave is beaten to death the owner is “punished” — not necessarily killed. If the slave survives the beating then there is no punishment. (Gen 9:6, Ex 21:12, Numb 35:16-21). This is part of a wide range of slavery laws in the Old and New Testament.
- Kidnapping and selling a man. This is really a law against making an Israelite a slave against his will. (Ex 21:16).
- Perjury (in certain cases) (Deut 19:15 - 21). Deut 19:20 explicitly identifies that the purpose of this is deterrence. "The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing (malicious and false testimony by one man against another) be done among you." Presumably all the other death penalties are assumed to be for deterrence as well.
- Ignoring the verdict of a judge – (or a priest!) (Deut 17:8-13).
- Not penning up a known dangerous bull, if the bull subsequently kills a man or a woman. (Ex 21:29) Both the animal and the reckless owner of the dangerous bull are to be put to death.
- Living in a city that failed to surrender to the Israelites. (Kill all the men, make the women and children slaves.) Deut 20:12-14.
- The following carry the punishment of being "cut off from his people". Some people seem to feel that this is the same as the death penalty.
- A male who is not circumcised. Genesis 17:14
- Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15
- Manufacturing anointing oil. Exodus 30:33
- Engaging in ritual animal sacrifices other than at the temple. Leviticus 17:1-9
- Sexual activity with a woman who is menstruating: Leviticus 20:18
- Consuming blood: This would presumably include eating rare meat and black pudding. Also see above. Leviticus 17:10.
- Eating peace offerings while ritually unclean: Leviticus 7:20
- Waiting too long before consuming sacrifices: Leviticus 19:5-8
- Going to the temple in an unclean state: Numbers 19:13
Bad people exist. Your argument might have been fun but it is irrelevant. Just because God is bad doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
So far the only thing you've convinced me of is that you are incredibly arrogant. You seem to think you know something the rest of us poor simpletons do not. I can't tell if you were told this secret knowledge or discovered it on your own but either way, I sincerely doubt it is anything more than a mirage. You certainly have trouble putting it into understandable words but, as you say, least you can do is try. So far I see no such effort being made, in fact you seem to enjoy obfuscation.
Instead of trying to see through me you should take a hard look at yourself.Maybe you didn't realize this as smug in your ignorance as you are but can I see through you pal.
Instead of trying to see through me you should take a hard look at yourself.Maybe you didn't realize this as smug in your ignorance as you are but can I see through you pal.
Instead of trying to see through me you should take a hard look at yourself.Maybe you didn't realize this as smug in your ignorance as you are but can I see through you pal.
When a person attempts to light the wick of a lamp with fire but it fails to catch on and only smolders its because the lamp has no oil, the problem is not with the flame.
I once had a burning bush, antibiotics did the trick!Instead of trying to see through me you should take a hard look at yourself.Maybe you didn't realize this as smug in your ignorance as you are but can I see through you pal.
When a person attempts to light the wick of a lamp with fire but it fails to catch on and only smolders its because the lamp has no oil, the problem is not with the flame.
That analogy DOES NOT rate up there with the burning bush.......just in case you planned it that way.
Of course Jesus was divine, all gays are divine. Dah'lin'.I'm confused. Are you saying there is more than one God or that Jesus was not divine?Unless of course your own doctrine confuses Jesus with the God of the Old Testament and confuses the God of the Old Testament with Jesus in the New Testament.
One man's trash... So why do you keep you treasure buried?You are just a pauper trying to convince me that there is no such thing as wealth while I'm sitting on a hoard of buried treasure.
Instead of trying to see through me you should take a hard look at yourself.Maybe you didn't realize this as smug in your ignorance as you are but can I see through you pal.
When a person attempts to light the wick of a lamp with fire but it fails to catch on and only smolders its because the lamp has no oil, the problem is not with the flame.
That analogy DOES NOT rate up there with the burning bush.......just in case you planned it that way.
... before receiving a message from God
On what basis are you claiming that?Instead of trying to see through me you should take a hard look at yourself.Maybe you didn't realize this as smug in your ignorance as you are but can I see through you pal.
When a person attempts to light the wick of a lamp with fire but it fails to catch on and only smolders its because the lamp has no oil, the problem is not with the flame.
That analogy DOES NOT rate up there with the burning bush.......just in case you planned it that way.
The burning bush, the glory of God, the chariots of fire, the encircling radiance, etc., , are all subjective descriptions of what a prophet sees in their mind before receiving a message from God.
There is no known way for you to know that that is what Moses or anyone else experienced.It is translucent and transparent and radiates the colors of the rainbow like light through the many facets of a sparkling diamond. It is seen in the mind and is superimposed over whatever is beyond in the field of vision, like a bush, which might at first appear to be burning in a strange fire without being consumed.
How can you rule out some other god? Or fairies? Or aliens? Or time travelers? Or time-travelling aliens?When Moses got closer to what was opening up in his mind like a wormhole tearing the fabric of space and time, he heard God speak.
Very poetic. And you know this how?Instead of trying to see through me you should take a hard look at yourself.Maybe you didn't realize this as smug in your ignorance as you are but can I see through you pal.
When a person attempts to light the wick of a lamp with fire but it fails to catch on and only smolders its because the lamp has no oil, the problem is not with the flame.
That analogy DOES NOT rate up there with the burning bush.......just in case you planned it that way.
The burning bush, the glory of God, the chariots of fire, the encircling radiance, etc., , are all subjective descriptions of what a prophet sees in their mind before receiving a message from God. It is translucent and transparent and radiates the colors of the rainbow like light through the many facets of a sparkling diamond. It is seen in the mind and is superimposed over whatever is beyond in the field of vision, like a bush, which might at first appear to be burning in a strange fire without being consumed.
When Moses got closer to what was opening up in his mind like a wormhole tearing the fabric of space and time, he heard God speak.
Maybe there's some Supreme Being I don't know but I'm sure the God of the bible doesn't exist.
It's made up because it's too anthropomorphic
Who said a god has to be perfect? The Abrahamic god isn't claimed to be perfect or omnipotent or not vengeful etc in the Old Testament. Christianity started adding to the character.Because an actual, perfect omnipotent deity would possess none of those failings.But how does that make it not real? Why can't a god be totalitarian, vengeful, aggressive, violent, or an asshole?
A son-of-a-bitch who's in bed with killing all first borns and accommodating beheadings needs a little self examination and correction. The old testament god set up rules impossible to adhere to:
Death Penalty Sins
Adultery (Lev 20:10-12, (man and woman).
- Lying about virginity. Applies to girls who are still in their fathers' homes, who lie about their virginity, and are presented to their husband as a virgin. The accused is guilty until proved innocent. (Deut 22:20-21).
- Making love to a virgin pledged to be married to another. Applies to man who deflowers virgin pledged to be married, and to the virgin if she does not call for help. (Deut 22:23-24).
- The daughter of a priest practicing prostitution (death by fire) (Lev 21:9).
- Rape of someone who is engaged. If she is not engaged you only have to marry her and give her father 50 shekels. No mention is made of the girl’s opinion. (Deut 22:25).
- Men practicing bestiality. (Both man and animal die). (Lev 20:15)
- Women practicing bestiality (Both woman and animal die). (Lev 20:16)
- Having sex with your father’s wife, as distinct from "your mother", as it was common practice for men at the time to have several wives. (both die). (Lev 20:20).
- Having sex with your daughter in law. (Lev 20:30)
- Incest. (Lev 20:17)
- Male homosexuality (Lev 20:13).
- Marrying a woman and her daughter. They are all burnt to death (Lev 20:14)
- Worshiping idols (Ex 22:20, Lev 20:1-5, Deut 17:2-7).
- Blasphemy (Lev 24:14-16,23).
- Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14, Numb 15:32-36).
- Practicing magic (Ex 22:18).
- Being a medium or spiritualist. (stoning) (Lev 20:27).
- Trying to convert people to another religion. (stoning) (Deut 13:1-11, 18:20).
- Apostasy - If most people in a town come to believe in a different god. (Kill everybody, including animals, and burn the town.) (Deut 13:12-15)
- Giving one of your descents to Molech. Probably refers to human sacrifice and is not now commonly practiced in the west. (Lev 20:2)
- Non-priests going near the tabernacle when it is being moved. (Numb 1:51)
- Being a false prophet. (Deut 132:5, Deut 18:20, Zech 13:2-3)
- Striking your parents (Ex 21:15).
- Cursing your parents (Ex 21:17, Lev 20:9).
- Being a stubborn and rebellious son. And being a profligate and a drunkard. (stoning) (Quite a few of us might have a problem with this one)(Deut 21:18-21)
- Murder. However if a slave is beaten to death the owner is “punished” — not necessarily killed. If the slave survives the beating then there is no punishment. (Gen 9:6, Ex 21:12, Numb 35:16-21). This is part of a wide range of slavery laws in the Old and New Testament.
- Kidnapping and selling a man. This is really a law against making an Israelite a slave against his will. (Ex 21:16).
- Perjury (in certain cases) (Deut 19:15 - 21). Deut 19:20 explicitly identifies that the purpose of this is deterrence. "The rest of the people will hear of this and be afraid, and never again will such an evil thing (malicious and false testimony by one man against another) be done among you." Presumably all the other death penalties are assumed to be for deterrence as well.
- Ignoring the verdict of a judge – (or a priest!) (Deut 17:8-13).
- Not penning up a known dangerous bull, if the bull subsequently kills a man or a woman. (Ex 21:29) Both the animal and the reckless owner of the dangerous bull are to be put to death.
- Living in a city that failed to surrender to the Israelites. (Kill all the men, make the women and children slaves.) Deut 20:12-14.
- The following carry the punishment of being "cut off from his people". Some people seem to feel that this is the same as the death penalty.
- A male who is not circumcised. Genesis 17:14
- Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15
- Manufacturing anointing oil. Exodus 30:33
- Engaging in ritual animal sacrifices other than at the temple. Leviticus 17:1-9
- Sexual activity with a woman who is menstruating: Leviticus 20:18
- Consuming blood: This would presumably include eating rare meat and black pudding. Also see above. Leviticus 17:10.
- Eating peace offerings while ritually unclean: Leviticus 7:20
- Waiting too long before consuming sacrifices: Leviticus 19:5-8
- Going to the temple in an unclean state: Numbers 19:13
Bad people exist. Your argument might have been fun but it is irrelevant. Just because God is bad doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
Like I said before.....All Ancient God Worship is Pure, Unadulaterated Horse Shit! Anything you're expecting Gawd to take care of I recommend that you get off your ass and take care of it yourself.
