Does Trump Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings?

[Catman51]

We need to adopt the gun control plans they have in Europe.

They work.

That is about the 10th time I said that on this thread alone.

And the criminals and those who break the law abide by these laws and never break them?

Criminals don't care about laws, that's why they break them.

Next time, try something real.

 

[candycorn]

And the criminals and those who break the law abide by these laws and never break them?

Criminals don't care about laws, that's why they break them.

Next time, try something real.

They don’t have criminals in Europe?

 

[candycorn]

Not really…just went to Wikipedia school shooting list, saw one in 1989, a couple in the 70s, one back in the 1700s, but the vast majority have been 12 of the last 16 years

As you said, it’s a national problem and the dems have been in charge and unable to address it, in fact made it worse

Time to get them out of office

Charles Whitman.

Give it a good.

 

[struth]

Charles Whitman.

Give it a good.

Yep they were once rare, but what is harris plan to undo the carnage from 12 of the last 16 years that would make Whitman blush???

 

[candycorn]

Yep they were once rare, but what is harris plan to undo the carnage from 12 of the last 16 years that would make Whitman blush???

This from Forbes:

Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, has made what she calls “freedom to live safe from gun violence” an important plank of her presidential campaign. At her first rally in July, she expressed support for policies, including passage of so-called red flag laws, universal background checks and a prohibition of sales of assault weapons to civilians.


Some states already have red flag laws which allow courts to order the temporary seizure of firearms from a person who they believe may present a danger. But there is no federal legislation. Every state has its own distinct laws when it comes to background checks, with no overarching federal law. And the United States had a federal assault weapons ban from 1994 to 2004. But after the act expired it was not extended by Congress.



As attorney general in California in 2012, Harris seized more than 2,000 firearms from individuals legally barred from possessing them, including persons determined to be mentally unstable and those with active restraining orders.



And as vice president, Harris has overseen the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention. To specifically address school shootings, the office’s strategy has focused on stopping juveniles and people experiencing mental health crises from accessing firearms. And the office has underscored the mental health needs of students, particularly those impacted by gun violence.


Gun violence is a leading cause of premature death in the U.S. There were more than 43,000 gun-related fatalities—homicides, suicides and accidents involving firearms—nationwide in 2023. When Surgeon General Vivek Murthy issued a landmark advisory in June declaring firearm violence to be a public health crisis, his statement sounded similar to the one posted by the American Medical Association in 2016.


But repeated attempts to introduce gun control measures such as a ban on assault weapons have run into formidable opposition in the U.S. Congress as well as the judiciary. Such hurdles to firearm measures are expected to continue to crop up if Harris is elected president and attempts to push forward changes in gun laws.

Despite the decline in number of gun-related deaths in 2023 compared to 2020, when there were more than 45,000, it’s still a very high figure. Furthermore, the number of people killed by firearms grew by nearly 43% between 2010 and 2020, according to a National Institute for Health Care Management report. This means that the baseline levels of deaths are considerably higher than they were 15 years ago.



Among high-income countries with populations of 10 million or more, the U.S. ranks first in terms of age-adjusted firearm homicide rates, 33 times greater than in Australia and 77 times the rate in Germany.

And while Americans make up 4% of the world’s population, they own approximately 46% of the estimated 857 million weapons in civilian hands. As such, the U.S. has by far the highest rate of privately owned guns per inhabitant. Yemen, the country with the second highest gun ownership rate worldwide, only has half of the U.S. per capita rate.

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Anything else?

 

[struth]

This from Forbes:

Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, has made what she calls “freedom to live safe from gun violence” an important plank of her presidential campaign. At her first rally in July, she expressed support for policies, including passage of so-called red flag laws, universal background checks and a prohibition of sales of assault weapons to civilians.


Some states already have red flag laws which allow courts to order the temporary seizure of firearms from a person who they believe may present a danger. But there is no federal legislation. Every state has its own distinct laws when it comes to background checks, with no overarching federal law. And the United States had a federal assault weapons ban from 1994 to 2004. But after the act expired it was not extended by Congress.



As attorney general in California in 2012, Harris seized more than 2,000 firearms from individuals legally barred from possessing them, including persons determined to be mentally unstable and those with active restraining orders.



And as vice president, Harris has overseen the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention. To specifically address school shootings, the office’s strategy has focused on stopping juveniles and people experiencing mental health crises from accessing firearms. And the office has underscored the mental health needs of students, particularly those impacted by gun violence.


Gun violence is a leading cause of premature death in the U.S. There were more than 43,000 gun-related fatalities—homicides, suicides and accidents involving firearms—nationwide in 2023. When Surgeon General Vivek Murthy issued a landmark advisory in June declaring firearm violence to be a public health crisis, his statement sounded similar to the one posted by the American Medical Association in 2016.


But repeated attempts to introduce gun control measures such as a ban on assault weapons have run into formidable opposition in the U.S. Congress as well as the judiciary. Such hurdles to firearm measures are expected to continue to crop up if Harris is elected president and attempts to push forward changes in gun laws.

Despite the decline in number of gun-related deaths in 2023 compared to 2020, when there were more than 45,000, it’s still a very high figure. Furthermore, the number of people killed by firearms grew by nearly 43% between 2010 and 2020, according to a National Institute for Health Care Management report. This means that the baseline levels of deaths are considerably higher than they were 15 years ago.



Among high-income countries with populations of 10 million or more, the U.S. ranks first in terms of age-adjusted firearm homicide rates, 33 times greater than in Australia and 77 times the rate in Germany.

And while Americans make up 4% of the world’s population, they own approximately 46% of the estimated 857 million weapons in civilian hands. As such, the U.S. has by far the highest rate of privately owned guns per inhabitant. Yemen, the country with the second highest gun ownership rate worldwide, only has half of the U.S. per capita rate.

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Anything else?

So as AG she simply enforced existing laws and keep guns out of hands of people like Hunter…I’m cool with that, trump is cool with that

Beyond that she wants to take everyone’s guns? Weird she said she didn’t at the debate…anywho..she’s just run into trouble with the law in her attempts to do that? Ok I can see that

So she really has no plan?

 

[candycorn]

So as AG she simply enforced existing laws and keep guns out of hands of people like Hunter…I’m cool with that, trump is cool with that

Beyond that she wants to take everyone’s guns? Weird she said she didn’t at the debate…anywho..she’s just run into trouble with the law in her attempts to do that? Ok I can see that

So she really has no plan?

Weird that she didn’t say that in the post you responded to.

 

[Catman51]

They don’t have criminals in Europe?

Your claim. not mine that these criminals never use guns.

 

[my2¢]

Home schooling would be my plan.

 

[struth]

Weird that she didn’t say that in the post you responded to.

Huh? You literally put in bold her stance to ban them.

She’s also apparently in charge of this admin school shooting commission…and what has she done? Nothing. Hence why we have this thread

 

[candycorn]

Huh? You literally put in bold her stance to ban them.

Please quote where she said she wants to “take everyone’s guns” in my post.

 

[candycorn]

Your claim. not mine that these criminals never use guns.

Well, your claim is that criminals will not turn in their guns.
The criminals in Europe seem to have since they have virtually no gun crime.

 

[struth]

Please quote where she said she wants to “take everyone’s guns” in my post.

The part you bolded! Did you not even read your cut and paste job?

 

[candycorn]

The part you bolded! Did you not even read your cut and paste job?

Again, would you please quote where she said she is going to “take everyone’s guns”.

TIA.

 

[struth]

Again, would you please quote where she said she is going to “take everyone’s guns”.

TIA.

Where you put in bold she wants a ban

When you ban something, you are taking it away

Come on man

 

[candycorn]

Where you put in bold she wants a ban

When you ban something, you are taking it away

Come on man

So you can’t quote her saying she wants to “take everyone’s guns”. That was a weird statement to make.

As for the ban that I did mention....it is a ban on assault weapons. Not all guns are assault weapons. So your allegation of taking “everyone’s guns” is not only weird, it’s false.

You lied.

 

[struth]

So you can’t quote her saying she wants to “take everyone’s guns”. That was a weird statement to make.

As for the ban that I did mention....it is a ban on assault weapons. Not all guns are assault weapons. So your allegation of taking “everyone’s guns” is not only weird, it’s false.

You lied.

I discussed your post, saying that was her position

Is it not? Then why did you post it and put it in bold? Weird

 

[candycorn]

I discussed your post, saying that was her position

Is it not? Then why did you post it and put it in bold? Weird

She wants to ban assault weapons. Your allegation--your weird lie--was that she wants to take “everyone’s guns”. You lied. You know you lied. You will continue to lie. It’s the one thing you know how to do. One would think you’d be better at it by now, weirdo.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

She wants to ban assault weapons. Your allegation--your weird lie--was that she wants to take “everyone’s guns”. You lied. You know you lied. You will continue to lie. It’s the one thing you know how to do. One would think you’d be better at it by now, weirdo.

no civilians own assault weapons except the few that could pay for the license and pass the many hurtles to own an automatic weapon. An assault weapon allows for automatic fire, the AR-15 does not is simply a semi auto weapon like most hunting rifles are.

 

[struth]

She wants to ban assault weapons. Your allegation--your weird lie--was that she wants to take “everyone’s guns”. You lied. You know you lied. You will continue to lie. It’s the one thing you know how to do. One would think you’d be better at it by now, weirdo.

Thanks for finally acknowdkng she wants to take peoples guns and that she lied in the debate

Now, on to the question at hand, she’s been Xiden’s school shooting czar for years now, why do we continue to have threads like this then? She’s clearly not fit for the job