DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Discuss Anti Trust Cases Against Google, Facebook

[busybee01]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

The White House is reportedly planning to order an antitrust probe of tech companies

White House reportedly prepares order directing antitrust probe of tech companies amid accusations of political bias

• The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" whether social media companies such as Google or Facebook have violated U.S. antitrust laws, Bloomberg reported Saturday.
• Social media company leaders, including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter chief Jack Dorsey have denied that their platforms are politically biased.

The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" big tech companies like Google and Facebook, Bloomberg News reported on Saturday, who have fended off accusations of political bias against conservatives.

A draft of that executive order, seen by Bloomberg, is in its preliminary stages and hasn't yet been run past other government agencies, a White House official told the publication. It also does not mention any specific companies.

However, its current language would o direct federal agencies to give recommendations ways to "protect competition among online platforms and address online platform bias" within a month after being signed, according to the report.

Republican lawmakers and right-wing groups have long questioned whether social media giants like Twitter, Facebook and Google are guilty of an anti-conservative bias, and promoting Democratic or progressive political views.

Trump himself has levied those accusations repeatedly, which reached a crescendo when Twitter was hit by accusations of "shadow banning" right-leaning voices on its platform...

I'm glad to see Trump finally going after these companies. We need an internet bill of rights that extends free speech to the internet. I'd also like to see the creation of a private cause of action where anyone wrongfully censored by these companies can bring a lawsuit directly against these companies.

Maybe we should then bring the fairness doctrine back. Conservatives dominate talk radio and discriminate against liberal viewers. The fact is there is no right of free speech on the internet. Private companies have a right to conduct their business as they see fit. This is so typical of the fascist right. The fact is that there are no barriers to competing. All you need is a internet connection. You need to replace the American flag with the Nazi flag. That would be more appropriate.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Talk Radio is driven by the Free Market and there is wide open competition,

libtards are unsuccessful here because they are full of Shit, thus they aren’t

entertaining to listen to…

facebook is basically a monopoly, they ban views they don’t agree with….

twitter is and does pretty much the same as facebook….

google guides your searches and twists the truth to fit their liberal agenda….

They are not a monopoly. No one forces you to use their search engine. Banning views has nothing to do with a monopoly. The fact is that all one needs to compete is a internet connection. One that is easily available.

 

[busybee01]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

You big government, anti-capitalist liberals crack me up.

Nope.
Government exists to protect us from small groups of very wealthy people seeking to overthrow our government via monopolies that control communication.

That must be the Dummy's Guide to Anti-Trust law. It also sound like the Communist Manifesto.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

The White House is reportedly planning to order an antitrust probe of tech companies

White House reportedly prepares order directing antitrust probe of tech companies amid accusations of political bias

• The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" whether social media companies such as Google or Facebook have violated U.S. antitrust laws, Bloomberg reported Saturday.
• Social media company leaders, including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter chief Jack Dorsey have denied that their platforms are politically biased.

The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" big tech companies like Google and Facebook, Bloomberg News reported on Saturday, who have fended off accusations of political bias against conservatives.

A draft of that executive order, seen by Bloomberg, is in its preliminary stages and hasn't yet been run past other government agencies, a White House official told the publication. It also does not mention any specific companies.

However, its current language would o direct federal agencies to give recommendations ways to "protect competition among online platforms and address online platform bias" within a month after being signed, according to the report.

Republican lawmakers and right-wing groups have long questioned whether social media giants like Twitter, Facebook and Google are guilty of an anti-conservative bias, and promoting Democratic or progressive political views.

Trump himself has levied those accusations repeatedly, which reached a crescendo when Twitter was hit by accusations of "shadow banning" right-leaning voices on its platform...

I'm glad to see Trump finally going after these companies. We need an internet bill of rights that extends free speech to the internet. I'd also like to see the creation of a private cause of action where anyone wrongfully censored by these companies can bring a lawsuit directly against these companies.

Maybe we should then bring the fairness doctrine back. Conservatives dominate talk radio and discriminate against liberal viewers. The fact is there is no right of free speech on the internet. Private companies have a right to conduct their business as they see fit. This is so typical of the fascist right. The fact is that there are no barriers to competing. All you need is a internet connection. You need to replace the American flag with the Nazi flag. That would be more appropriate.

What claptrap you spew, commie scum.

You want the Govt to control how a private business operates and then call someone one a Commie.

Another damn sheep to stupid to grasp the irony of their post


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Case ya didn't know all businesses have some level of govt control. Goog is verging on subversive. Fakebook could care less about

You are the subversive. We will not allow you to take over Google or Facebook.

Not to mention both of em probably broke campaign financing laws with undeclared donations of to Hilly

 

[whitehall]

My Google search engine is promoting a "register to vote" month. I never saw that in the eight years of Obama.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

My Google search engine is promoting a "register to vote" month. I never saw that in the eight years of Obama.

I guess they hated Obama and did not want anyone to vote for him

 

[Deno]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

The White House is reportedly planning to order an antitrust probe of tech companies

White House reportedly prepares order directing antitrust probe of tech companies amid accusations of political bias

• The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" whether social media companies such as Google or Facebook have violated U.S. antitrust laws, Bloomberg reported Saturday.
• Social media company leaders, including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter chief Jack Dorsey have denied that their platforms are politically biased.

The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" big tech companies like Google and Facebook, Bloomberg News reported on Saturday, who have fended off accusations of political bias against conservatives.

A draft of that executive order, seen by Bloomberg, is in its preliminary stages and hasn't yet been run past other government agencies, a White House official told the publication. It also does not mention any specific companies.

However, its current language would o direct federal agencies to give recommendations ways to "protect competition among online platforms and address online platform bias" within a month after being signed, according to the report.

Republican lawmakers and right-wing groups have long questioned whether social media giants like Twitter, Facebook and Google are guilty of an anti-conservative bias, and promoting Democratic or progressive political views.

Trump himself has levied those accusations repeatedly, which reached a crescendo when Twitter was hit by accusations of "shadow banning" right-leaning voices on its platform...

I'm glad to see Trump finally going after these companies. We need an internet bill of rights that extends free speech to the internet. I'd also like to see the creation of a private cause of action where anyone wrongfully censored by these companies can bring a lawsuit directly against these companies.

Maybe we should then bring the fairness doctrine back. Conservatives dominate talk radio and discriminate against liberal viewers. The fact is there is no right of free speech on the internet. Private companies have a right to conduct their business as they see fit. This is so typical of the fascist right. The fact is that there are no barriers to competing. All you need is a internet connection. You need to replace the American flag with the Nazi flag. That would be more appropriate.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Talk Radio is driven by the Free Market and there is wide open competition,

libtards are unsuccessful here because they are full of Shit, thus they aren’t

entertaining to listen to…

facebook is basically a monopoly, they ban views they don’t agree with….

twitter is and does pretty much the same as facebook….

google guides your searches and twists the truth to fit their liberal agenda….

They are not a monopoly. No one forces you to use their search engine. Banning views has nothing to do with a monopoly. The fact is that all one needs to compete is a internet connection. One that is easily available.

Your reading skills are lacking....

I didn't say google was a monopoly...……….

 

[koshergrl]

Conservatives dominate talk radio because people listen to them.
Leftists dominate social platforms because they shut out those who expose them.

There's a difference. But leftists don't understand it.

It's time for a purge and it is coming.

Doesn't matter. The government should see that everyone's point of view is respected if we are going to do it to Google and Facebook.

Er...no. Nobody is making anybody respect anything you poor sad brownshirt.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Conservatives dominate talk radio because people listen to them.
Leftists dominate social platforms because they shut out those who expose them.

There's a difference. But leftists don't understand it.

It's time for a purge and it is coming.

Doesn't matter. The government should see that everyone's point of view is respected if we are going to do it to Google and Facebook.

Er...no. Nobody is making anybody respect anything you poor sad brownshirt.

Nope, they are just pushing for a private company to be punished for being too successful and for being mean to the conservative snowflakes.

You statist are a disgusting bunch


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[LaDexter]

I guess they hated Obama and did not want anyone to vote for him

Google is homophobic???

 

[evenflow1969]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

Good lets do the sam with the TBF banks!

 

[Pilot1]

Those evil, big, capitalist corporations! Monopolies are wrong!

 

[Joann Stubbs]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

The White House is reportedly planning to order an antitrust probe of tech companies

White House reportedly prepares order directing antitrust probe of tech companies amid accusations of political bias

• The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" whether social media companies such as Google or Facebook have violated U.S. antitrust laws, Bloomberg reported Saturday.
• Social media company leaders, including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter chief Jack Dorsey have denied that their platforms are politically biased.

The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" big tech companies like Google and Facebook, Bloomberg News reported on Saturday, who have fended off accusations of political bias against conservatives.

A draft of that executive order, seen by Bloomberg, is in its preliminary stages and hasn't yet been run past other government agencies, a White House official told the publication. It also does not mention any specific companies.

However, its current language would o direct federal agencies to give recommendations ways to "protect competition among online platforms and address online platform bias" within a month after being signed, according to the report.

Republican lawmakers and right-wing groups have long questioned whether social media giants like Twitter, Facebook and Google are guilty of an anti-conservative bias, and promoting Democratic or progressive political views.

Trump himself has levied those accusations repeatedly, which reached a crescendo when Twitter was hit by accusations of "shadow banning" right-leaning voices on its platform...

I'm glad to see Trump finally going after these companies. We need an internet bill of rights that extends free speech to the internet. I'd also like to see the creation of a private cause of action where anyone wrongfully censored by these companies can bring a lawsuit directly against these companies.

Maybe we should then bring the fairness doctrine back. Conservatives dominate talk radio and discriminate against liberal viewers. The fact is there is no right of free speech on the internet. Private companies have a right to conduct their business as they see fit. This is so typical of the fascist right. The fact is that there are no barriers to competing. All you need is a internet connection. You need to replace the American flag with the Nazi flag. That would be more appropriate.

Now that is a good way of shutting up the Rightwingers like Limebaugh and Fox.

 

[Slyhunter]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

The White House is reportedly planning to order an antitrust probe of tech companies

White House reportedly prepares order directing antitrust probe of tech companies amid accusations of political bias

• The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" whether social media companies such as Google or Facebook have violated U.S. antitrust laws, Bloomberg reported Saturday.
• Social media company leaders, including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter chief Jack Dorsey have denied that their platforms are politically biased.

The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" big tech companies like Google and Facebook, Bloomberg News reported on Saturday, who have fended off accusations of political bias against conservatives.

A draft of that executive order, seen by Bloomberg, is in its preliminary stages and hasn't yet been run past other government agencies, a White House official told the publication. It also does not mention any specific companies.

However, its current language would o direct federal agencies to give recommendations ways to "protect competition among online platforms and address online platform bias" within a month after being signed, according to the report.

Republican lawmakers and right-wing groups have long questioned whether social media giants like Twitter, Facebook and Google are guilty of an anti-conservative bias, and promoting Democratic or progressive political views.

Trump himself has levied those accusations repeatedly, which reached a crescendo when Twitter was hit by accusations of "shadow banning" right-leaning voices on its platform...

I'm glad to see Trump finally going after these companies. We need an internet bill of rights that extends free speech to the internet. I'd also like to see the creation of a private cause of action where anyone wrongfully censored by these companies can bring a lawsuit directly against these companies.

Maybe we should then bring the fairness doctrine back. Conservatives dominate talk radio and discriminate against liberal viewers. The fact is there is no right of free speech on the internet. Private companies have a right to conduct their business as they see fit. This is so typical of the fascist right. The fact is that there are no barriers to competing. All you need is a internet connection. You need to replace the American flag with the Nazi flag. That would be more appropriate.

Now that is a good way of shutting up the Rightwingers like Limebaugh and Fox.

Wanna bet?

 

[ptbw forever]

Bust them into ten thousand million pieces.

DOJ Invites 24 State AGs to Jeff Sessions Meeting About Breaking Up Google, Facebook

The White House is reportedly planning to order an antitrust probe of tech companies

White House reportedly prepares order directing antitrust probe of tech companies amid accusations of political bias

• The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" whether social media companies such as Google or Facebook have violated U.S. antitrust laws, Bloomberg reported Saturday.
• Social media company leaders, including Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and Twitter chief Jack Dorsey have denied that their platforms are politically biased.

The White House is reportedly working on a memorandum for President Donald Trump to sign that would direct government agencies to "thoroughly investigate" big tech companies like Google and Facebook, Bloomberg News reported on Saturday, who have fended off accusations of political bias against conservatives.

A draft of that executive order, seen by Bloomberg, is in its preliminary stages and hasn't yet been run past other government agencies, a White House official told the publication. It also does not mention any specific companies.

However, its current language would o direct federal agencies to give recommendations ways to "protect competition among online platforms and address online platform bias" within a month after being signed, according to the report.

Republican lawmakers and right-wing groups have long questioned whether social media giants like Twitter, Facebook and Google are guilty of an anti-conservative bias, and promoting Democratic or progressive political views.

Trump himself has levied those accusations repeatedly, which reached a crescendo when Twitter was hit by accusations of "shadow banning" right-leaning voices on its platform...

I'm glad to see Trump finally going after these companies. We need an internet bill of rights that extends free speech to the internet. I'd also like to see the creation of a private cause of action where anyone wrongfully censored by these companies can bring a lawsuit directly against these companies.

Maybe we should then bring the fairness doctrine back. Conservatives dominate talk radio and discriminate against liberal viewers.

Fine with me if we kick NPR over to AM or at least stop subsidizing their commie propaganda.

If you have Rush Limbaugh then you have to have a liberal on after Limbaugh for 3 hours if you want to keep your license.

And NPR has to have conservatives or they lose their license and their tax funds.

 

[ptbw forever]

What claptrap you spew, commie scum.

You want the Govt to control how a private business operates and then call someone one a Commie.

Another damn sheep to stupid to grasp the irony of their post


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Nobody said the government should control them.

Just shatter them into a thousand million companies.

Trump can be the next Teddy Roosevelt.

You make a great socialist, punish success whenever possible.


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You Leftards are always for big corporations and their huge tax cuts.

Dumb shit, it was you savior in the White House that gave them the huge tax cuts, so you can shove that one back up your ass.

I do not care about the size of a company, Google and FB are as big because they are damn good at what they do, the same with Amazon.

So, what is the solution of you statist? Get the government involved and punish their success.

Why not just get it over with and move to Russia now, you would be much happier.

They got to where they are by falsely advertising their product as open centers of dialogue.

If they were honest about their agenda from day one they would be small and dying companies by now...if they ever became big enough to survive this long.

 

[EverCurious]

I've said before that I think maybe we need to consider regulation of search engines and social media sites as utilities like telephone companies are. I'm open to discussion on it though.

So can you imagine having <your> home, work, or cellphone disconnected because someone else didn't like <your> conversation or text?

Why do <you> think that social media and search engines should be treated differently?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I've said before that I think maybe we need to consider regulation of search engines and social media sites as utilities like telephone companies are. I'm open to discussion on it though.

So can you imagine having <your> home, work, or cellphone disconnected because someone else didn't like <your> conversation or text?

Why do <you> think that social media and search engines should be treated differently?

Three reasons that social media and search engines should be treated differently.

1. They are a purely optional recreational items.

2. There are more than 150 search engines, that I know of and likely 10 times that many. When I had a home phone I was lucky to have 3 choices.

3. The most important distinction is that we do not hold phone companies responsible for what people say over their phone lines, but social media sites are held responsible for what is posted on their sites and search engines are held responsible for their results. When phone companies are held to these same standards then we can talk about this more.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They got to where they are by falsely advertising their product as open centers of dialogue.

If they were honest about their agenda from day one they would be small and dying companies by now...if they ever became big enough to survive this long.

No fucking way...they lied in their advertising? Wow that has never happened before the history of mankind.

Though I am not sure you are correct about this, but even if you are...so fucking what? MicroSoft claimed to be a quality product, McDonalds claims to be good tasting food and insurance companies claim to give a shit about you and me.

 

[EverCurious]

I've said before that I think maybe we need to consider regulation of search engines and social media sites as utilities like telephone companies are. I'm open to discussion on it though.

So can you imagine having <your> home, work, or cellphone disconnected because someone else didn't like <your> conversation or text?

Why do <you> think that social media and search engines should be treated differently?

Three reasons that social media and search engines should be treated differently.

1. They are a purely optional recreational items.

2. There are more than 150 search engines, that I know of and likely 10 times that many. When I had a home phone I was lucky to have 3 choices.

3. The most important distinction is that we do not hold phone companies responsible for what people say over their phone lines, but social media sites are held responsible for what is posted on their sites and search engines are held responsible for their results. When phone companies are held to these same standards then we can talk about this more.

1. A home phone is "optional" these days but they're still regulated. And frankly no one can really utilize the internet without a search engine so that one doesn't even qualify as "optional." Frankly, the argument that its "optional" or "recreational" is IMO a cop-out and quite frankly is irrelevant.

Like, do you think that cable TV isn't "recreational"? Yet, it's regulated - Cable Communications Policy Act of 1984 - Wikipedia (And I'll note it's almost exactly the same "principle" issue with social media and search engines - see my bolded)

"In order to balance power between cable television operators and the government, the act established regulations regarding franchise standards and proceeds that would attempt to strengthen the development of cable systems. The act gave municipalities, governing bodies of cities and towns, principal authority to grant and renew franchise licenses for cable operations. By establishing an orderly process for franchise renewal, the act protected cable operators from unfair denials of renewal. However, in order to be granted a franchise renewal, the act specified that cable operators' past performances and future proposals had to meet the federal standards in the new title. The act was meant to reduce an unnecessary regulation that could have potentially brought about an excessive economic burden on cable systems.[2]

In return for establishing franchise standards and procedures, the act specified that cable operators were expected to be receptive to their local communities' needs and interests. Congress recognized the vital role of cable television in encouraging and providing a place for free expression. This provision assured that cable communications provide the general public with "the widest possible diversity of information sources and services." Through this statute, Congress attempted to uphold the First Amendment interest of cable audiences to receive diversified information as specified in the Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. Federal Communications Commission court case of 1969.[3]"

Also: Public utilities (that are regulated) are organizations that maintain an infrastructure for a public service; this includes things like electricity, natural gas, water, sewage, telephone, transportation, and broadband services [cable service and ISPs] as well (aka Net Neutrality via FCC - Mobile data service for smartphones and tablets, in addition to wired lines, is being placed under the new rules. The order also includes provisions to protect consumer privacy and to ensure that Internet service is available to people with disabilities and in remote areas. See also: Title II - index.html )


2. There are a crap ton of phone companies too son. See List of United States telephone companies - Wikipedia and cellphones [wireless providers] here: List of United States wireless communications service providers - Wikipedia


3. Uhm no... You're dead wrong. The argument (largely being made by the left) is that they /should/ be treated that way, held liable for the content they allow to be published, but they are /not/ presently.

"Companies such as Twitter and Facebook are keen to describe their sites as enabling communications, rather than publishing content – a crucial distinction which means that they are not liable for trolling or abuse. But for anyone on the receiving end of violent abuse and threats of rape or murder, the sheer size and profitability of their operations must mean that this distinction is becoming increasingly untenable.

Both companies insist though that legally they are communications companies – just conduits for information who cannot be held liable for that content – in the same way BT cannot be sued over obscene phone calls. However, both also operate teams to investigate "flagged" content and remove it where they feel it is justified.

Being a communications company rather than a publisher means significantly less responsibility and expense, because it can claim to be a platform for discussion, rather than a publisher of opinion which could be held to be libellous or threatening." - Publishers or platforms? Media giants may be forced to choose


See also: Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which states that “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider” - There's a decent write up about 230 issues for websites here (also some 513 issues) This particular article is WELL worth the read if you're serious about this discussion - Understanding the Legal Issues for Social Networking Sites and Their Users - FindLaw

 

[EverCurious]

To the larger issue, I'm keen on the kind of "Cable TV" type regulation.

Cable TV can have porn on it, it's on the consumer/user to not watch those channels if they're offended by/object to porn, right?

Twitter, FB, YouTube, and Google should follow the same model - if you're offended by conservative/religious/alt-right/nazi/socialist/racist/whatever bullshit, then block those folks/don't view their content.

Platforms can still refuse to allow personal threats of violence and death, but they do have to respect freedom of speech.