Donald Trump Jr. subpoenaed by Senate Intelligence Committee

[Redfish]

I think the way it went was that the Trump campaign FAILED to notify the FBI they were contacted by Russians promising 'dirt' on HRC.

No charge for the clarification but try & keep up next time.

there is nothing illegal about accepting political information from a foreign source. What's illegal is using foreign lies to enact a FISA warrant to spy on american citizens.

Did I say there was anything 'illegal' about it? No, I did not.

The FAILURE of EVERYONE within the Trump campaign that knew anything about this should have notified the FBI.
That would have been the 'right thing to do' and it would have demonstrated CHARACTER & PRINCIPLE by Trump's campaign.
We ALL however know that did not happen; WHY? Because no one associated with the Trump campaign has a shred of CHARACTER, nor PRINCIPLE.

These assholes would NOT 'do the right thing', ever.

you have it backwards, the FBI should have notified the trump campaign that Russians were trying to infiltrate the campaign. The FBI should also have taken action against the Hillary campaign for paying russian interests for a fake dossier of lies.

If Mueller's task was to find Russian influence why did he ignore the obvious influence via the hillary campaign?

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THREE GOLD STARS

three gold stars my ass; re: post #147.

You Trumpers are beyond dumber than shit.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated.

the fact that you have to resort to juvenile insults confirms that you cannot debate the issues based on facts and logical thinking.

its the dems that appeal to the uneducated (and stupid), you prove that with every post.

 

[caddo kid]

there is nothing illegal about accepting political information from a foreign source. What's illegal is using foreign lies to enact a FISA warrant to spy on american citizens.

Did I say there was anything 'illegal' about it? No, I did not.

The FAILURE of EVERYONE within the Trump campaign that knew anything about this should have notified the FBI.
That would have been the 'right thing to do' and it would have demonstrated CHARACTER & PRINCIPLE by Trump's campaign.
We ALL however know that did not happen; WHY? Because no one associated with the Trump campaign has a shred of CHARACTER, nor PRINCIPLE.

These assholes would NOT 'do the right thing', ever.

you have it backwards, the FBI should have notified the trump campaign that Russians were trying to infiltrate the campaign. The FBI should also have taken action against the Hillary campaign for paying russian interests for a fake dossier of lies.

If Mueller's task was to find Russian influence why did he ignore the obvious influence via the hillary campaign?

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THREE GOLD STARS

three gold stars my ass; re: post #147.

You Trumpers are beyond dumber than shit.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated.

the fact that you have to resort to juvenile insults confirms that you cannot debate the issues based on facts and logical thinking.

its the dems that appeal to the uneducated (and stupid), you prove that with every post.

I learned quite well from Donass Trump, didn't I?

So, tell US now who the fucking juvenile, uneducated jackass really is?

He in da White House beotch.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I know it's fruitless to reason with you. But there IS an alternate explanation.. MOST campaigns post nomination are built on a core group of political/govt veterans. Folks who are "tuned into" the security and "international espionage" aspects that a campaign has to protect against..

The irony is -- the more "grass roots" and "anti-insider" your core campaign group becomes, the less attention you pay to those kind of infiltrations and contacts.. And I'm pretty sure the FBI and Clapper and Brennan took advantage of that virginity in order to set-up and entrap those Trump campaign associates to MAKE a problem appear...

But that backfired badly and many in on this abuse of trust and power are gonna pay the price...

So, you are basically giving the Trump campaign a pass based on your assessment of their naivete & ignorance.

Being stupid & ignorant is no excuse for NOT doing the 'right thing'; in this case notifying the FBI when contacted by suspicious (foreign/Russian) persons offering dirt on an opponent.

Any foreign Russian contacts -- REAL or faked by the FBI/Intel operations -- that are known to the public by the Trump campaign are EXHAUSTABLY covered in the Mueller report UNREDACTED.. Go read it..

And furthermore -- the Trump Tower meeting was a set-up coordinated thru Fusion GPS.. Go research who authorized the visa for the "russian honey pot lawyer"...

Mueller stopped short of INCLUDING exculpatory evidence such as that for OBVIOUS BIASED reasons... But he and everyone else following along (except the brain dead) knows it..

OK, for the sake of debate (only), let's say your 'claim' is true.

Is that still any reason for the campaign NOT to notify the FBI with information they were contacted by suspicious persons/Russians with an offer for dirt on a political opponent?

Your answer should be no; actually Hell no.

So why should they contact the FBI? What do they have to do with it?

Hillary and the DNC were not contacted by suspicious persons, they hired them instead. They didn't tell the FBI anything about it until they obtained the phony dossier.

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

 

[Redfish]

I know it's fruitless to reason with you. But there IS an alternate explanation.. MOST campaigns post nomination are built on a core group of political/govt veterans. Folks who are "tuned into" the security and "international espionage" aspects that a campaign has to protect against..

The irony is -- the more "grass roots" and "anti-insider" your core campaign group becomes, the less attention you pay to those kind of infiltrations and contacts.. And I'm pretty sure the FBI and Clapper and Brennan took advantage of that virginity in order to set-up and entrap those Trump campaign associates to MAKE a problem appear...

But that backfired badly and many in on this abuse of trust and power are gonna pay the price...

So, you are basically giving the Trump campaign a pass based on your assessment of their naivete & ignorance.

Being stupid & ignorant is no excuse for NOT doing the 'right thing'; in this case notifying the FBI when contacted by suspicious (foreign/Russian) persons offering dirt on an opponent.

Any foreign Russian contacts -- REAL or faked by the FBI/Intel operations -- that are known to the public by the Trump campaign are EXHAUSTABLY covered in the Mueller report UNREDACTED.. Go read it..

And furthermore -- the Trump Tower meeting was a set-up coordinated thru Fusion GPS.. Go research who authorized the visa for the "russian honey pot lawyer"...

Mueller stopped short of INCLUDING exculpatory evidence such as that for OBVIOUS BIASED reasons... But he and everyone else following along (except the brain dead) knows it..

OK, for the sake of debate (only), let's say your 'claim' is true.

Is that still any reason for the campaign NOT to notify the FBI with information they were contacted by suspicious persons/Russians with an offer for dirt on a political opponent?

Your answer should be no; actually Hell no.

So why should they contact the FBI? What do they have to do with it?

Hillary and the DNC were not contacted by suspicious persons, they hired them instead. They didn't tell the FBI anything about it until they obtained the phony dossier.

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

the clinton campaign PAID a foreign entity for a dossier of lies, Hillary signed off on giving Russia 20% of our uranium stocks and shortly thereafter the clinton foundation got a 145 million "contribution" from Russians-------------collusion, treason, corruption YES, all of them.

 

[Redfish]

Did I say there was anything 'illegal' about it? No, I did not.

The FAILURE of EVERYONE within the Trump campaign that knew anything about this should have notified the FBI.
That would have been the 'right thing to do' and it would have demonstrated CHARACTER & PRINCIPLE by Trump's campaign.
We ALL however know that did not happen; WHY? Because no one associated with the Trump campaign has a shred of CHARACTER, nor PRINCIPLE.

These assholes would NOT 'do the right thing', ever.

you have it backwards, the FBI should have notified the trump campaign that Russians were trying to infiltrate the campaign. The FBI should also have taken action against the Hillary campaign for paying russian interests for a fake dossier of lies.

If Mueller's task was to find Russian influence why did he ignore the obvious influence via the hillary campaign?

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THREE GOLD STARS

three gold stars my ass; re: post #147.

You Trumpers are beyond dumber than shit.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated.

the fact that you have to resort to juvenile insults confirms that you cannot debate the issues based on facts and logical thinking.

its the dems that appeal to the uneducated (and stupid), you prove that with every post.

I learned quite well from Donass Trump, didn't I?

So, tell US now who the fucking juvenile, uneducated jackass really is?

He in da White House beotch.

its amazing how you libs dont know the difference between political rhetoric and lies. But you voted for hillary so I guess that explains it.

 

[caddo kid]

So, you are basically giving the Trump campaign a pass based on your assessment of their naivete & ignorance.

Being stupid & ignorant is no excuse for NOT doing the 'right thing'; in this case notifying the FBI when contacted by suspicious (foreign/Russian) persons offering dirt on an opponent.

Any foreign Russian contacts -- REAL or faked by the FBI/Intel operations -- that are known to the public by the Trump campaign are EXHAUSTABLY covered in the Mueller report UNREDACTED.. Go read it..

And furthermore -- the Trump Tower meeting was a set-up coordinated thru Fusion GPS.. Go research who authorized the visa for the "russian honey pot lawyer"...

Mueller stopped short of INCLUDING exculpatory evidence such as that for OBVIOUS BIASED reasons... But he and everyone else following along (except the brain dead) knows it..

OK, for the sake of debate (only), let's say your 'claim' is true.

Is that still any reason for the campaign NOT to notify the FBI with information they were contacted by suspicious persons/Russians with an offer for dirt on a political opponent?

Your answer should be no; actually Hell no.

So why should they contact the FBI? What do they have to do with it?

Hillary and the DNC were not contacted by suspicious persons, they hired them instead. They didn't tell the FBI anything about it until they obtained the phony dossier.

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

You really are not that bright; are you?

You obviously do not understand FEC rules when it comes to obtaining 'dirt' from a foreign entity on a political opponent during a POTUS campaign.

Mueller has already done the work that proves that Trump Jr. & multiple others from the Trump campaign made the attempt to obtain 'dirt' on Trump's political rival, from foreign nationals.

The FEC now has the obligation to pursue this in civil litigation.

“The Special Counsel’s office has done all the investigation that is necessary for the FEC to find that the Trump campaign and its senior officials, including Donald Trump Jr., violated the ban on soliciting campaign assistance from a foreign national, much less from the agents of a hostile foreign government.”

Why in Hell do you & the Trumpers continue to give the Trump camp a PASS on their attempts to work with a foreign adversarial government?
You REALLY just do NOT GET IT, do you?
Why don't you try discussing something else that you can keep up with; maybe try the Barbie Doll sub forum, or maybe the Knitting sub forum?

 

[caddo kid]

you have it backwards, the FBI should have notified the trump campaign that Russians were trying to infiltrate the campaign. The FBI should also have taken action against the Hillary campaign for paying russian interests for a fake dossier of lies.

If Mueller's task was to find Russian influence why did he ignore the obvious influence via the hillary campaign?

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THREE GOLD STARS

three gold stars my ass; re: post #147.

You Trumpers are beyond dumber than shit.

No wonder Trump loves the uneducated.

the fact that you have to resort to juvenile insults confirms that you cannot debate the issues based on facts and logical thinking.

its the dems that appeal to the uneducated (and stupid), you prove that with every post.

I learned quite well from Donass Trump, didn't I?

So, tell US now who the fucking juvenile, uneducated jackass really is?

He in da White House beotch.

its amazing how you libs dont know the difference between political rhetoric and lies. But you voted for hillary so I guess that explains it.

Sorry, and as usual you are WRONG, again.

I voted for Gary 'What is Aleppo' Johnson but nice try retard.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And furthermore -- the Trump Tower meeting was a set-up coordinated thru Fusion GPS..

Trump cult fantasy

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Any foreign Russian contacts -- REAL or faked by the FBI/Intel operations -- that are known to the public by the Trump campaign are EXHAUSTABLY covered in the Mueller report UNREDACTED.. Go read it..

And furthermore -- the Trump Tower meeting was a set-up coordinated thru Fusion GPS.. Go research who authorized the visa for the "russian honey pot lawyer"...

Mueller stopped short of INCLUDING exculpatory evidence such as that for OBVIOUS BIASED reasons... But he and everyone else following along (except the brain dead) knows it..

OK, for the sake of debate (only), let's say your 'claim' is true.

Is that still any reason for the campaign NOT to notify the FBI with information they were contacted by suspicious persons/Russians with an offer for dirt on a political opponent?

Your answer should be no; actually Hell no.

So why should they contact the FBI? What do they have to do with it?

Hillary and the DNC were not contacted by suspicious persons, they hired them instead. They didn't tell the FBI anything about it until they obtained the phony dossier.

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

You really are not that bright; are you?

You obviously do not understand FEC rules when it comes to obtaining 'dirt' from a foreign entity on a political opponent during a POTUS campaign.

Mueller has already done the work that proves that Trump Jr. & multiple others from the Trump campaign made the attempt to obtain 'dirt' on Trump's political rival, from foreign nationals.

The FEC now has the obligation to pursue this in civil litigation.

“The Special Counsel’s office has done all the investigation that is necessary for the FEC to find that the Trump campaign and its senior officials, including Donald Trump Jr., violated the ban on soliciting campaign assistance from a foreign national, much less from the agents of a hostile foreign government.”

Why in Hell do you & the Trumpers continue to give the Trump camp a PASS on their attempts to work with a foreign adversarial government?
You REALLY just do NOT GET IT, do you?
Why don't you try discussing something else that you can keep up with; maybe try the Barbie Doll sub forum, or maybe the Knitting sub forum?

You are as dumb as a rock no offense to rocks. That's exactly what Hillary and the DNC did. They obtained phony intelligence from a foreign entity--the Russian government. Michael Steele got his information from Russia and sold it to Fusion GPS who handed that info to Hillary. Comey then used that unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump and his administration.

Junior admitted this to Congress. There is no law that states you can't get opposition research from a foreign entity, and you don't have to tell the FBI about anything. He (like Hillary) broke no laws in that regards.

 

[caddo kid]

OK, for the sake of debate (only), let's say your 'claim' is true.

Is that still any reason for the campaign NOT to notify the FBI with information they were contacted by suspicious persons/Russians with an offer for dirt on a political opponent?

Your answer should be no; actually Hell no.

So why should they contact the FBI? What do they have to do with it?

Hillary and the DNC were not contacted by suspicious persons, they hired them instead. They didn't tell the FBI anything about it until they obtained the phony dossier.

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

You really are not that bright; are you?

You obviously do not understand FEC rules when it comes to obtaining 'dirt' from a foreign entity on a political opponent during a POTUS campaign.

Mueller has already done the work that proves that Trump Jr. & multiple others from the Trump campaign made the attempt to obtain 'dirt' on Trump's political rival, from foreign nationals.

The FEC now has the obligation to pursue this in civil litigation.

“The Special Counsel’s office has done all the investigation that is necessary for the FEC to find that the Trump campaign and its senior officials, including Donald Trump Jr., violated the ban on soliciting campaign assistance from a foreign national, much less from the agents of a hostile foreign government.”

Why in Hell do you & the Trumpers continue to give the Trump camp a PASS on their attempts to work with a foreign adversarial government?
You REALLY just do NOT GET IT, do you?
Why don't you try discussing something else that you can keep up with; maybe try the Barbie Doll sub forum, or maybe the Knitting sub forum?

You are as dumb as a rock no offense to rocks. That's exactly what Hillary and the DNC did. They obtained phony intelligence from a foreign entity--the Russian government. Michael Steele got his information from Russia and sold it to Fusion GPS who handed that info to Hillary. Comey then used that unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump and his administration.

Junior admitted this to Congress. There is no law that states you can't get opposition research from a foreign entity, and you don't have to tell the FBI about anything. He (like Hillary) broke no laws in that regards.

If what you claim is true, and I am not saying it is, or is not, there would be multiple layers of contacts required to pull off such a stunt.
In such a scenario it would likely be impossible for the original source(s) to know whom the end user recipient(s) may ever be, and vice versa.
Such is the world of international tom foolery.


So, place that scenario template right over the fact that Trump Jr. & Trump campaign associates met DIRECTLY with Russian foreign agents at Trump Tower NY to get dirt on HRC.

So you have the potential for many multiple layers of contacts by completely anonymous parties in the former scenario & you want to compare that to the verified DIRECT CONTACT between top level associates of the Trump campaign, even Trump Jr., to obtain dirt on an opponent?

Dude, you are actually MUCH DUMBER than I even imagined.

Why don't you go down to the play ground and take a ride on your fucking merry-go-round?

 

[deanrd]

There’s absolutely no reason for Don Junior to show up. Because everyone knows that there’s no way Mitch McConnell would enforce a subpoena.

 

[percysunshine]

Just reported on MSNBC. I am surprised. What do you think?

Senate Intelligence Committee subpoenas Donald Trump Jr. in Russia probe

I am starting to suspect there is an oxymoron in the room.

 

[basquebromance]

Don isn’t a govt. employee. Has testified 20+ hours already & was cleared of any crimes by Mueller. This partisan govt. harassment campaign of a private citizen is 100% un-American.

 

[basquebromance]

Firestorm erupts around Sen. Richard Burr, man behind Donald Trump Jr. subpoena. He's not backing down

 

[deanrd]

Don isn’t a govt. employee. Has testified 20+ hours already & was cleared of any crimes by Mueller. This partisan govt. harassment campaign of a private citizen is 100% un-American.

I remember a time when Republicans were on the side of America. Before they changed sides.........to Russia.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Don isn’t a govt. employee. Has testified 20+ hours already & was cleared of any crimes by Mueller. This partisan govt. harassment campaign of a private citizen is 100% un-American.

He worked on the campaign in an official capacity. That is what he's being investigated for, and that is why the subpoena was issued.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So why should they contact the FBI? What do they have to do with it?

Hillary and the DNC were not contacted by suspicious persons, they hired them instead. They didn't tell the FBI anything about it until they obtained the phony dossier.

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

You really are not that bright; are you?

You obviously do not understand FEC rules when it comes to obtaining 'dirt' from a foreign entity on a political opponent during a POTUS campaign.

Mueller has already done the work that proves that Trump Jr. & multiple others from the Trump campaign made the attempt to obtain 'dirt' on Trump's political rival, from foreign nationals.

The FEC now has the obligation to pursue this in civil litigation.

“The Special Counsel’s office has done all the investigation that is necessary for the FEC to find that the Trump campaign and its senior officials, including Donald Trump Jr., violated the ban on soliciting campaign assistance from a foreign national, much less from the agents of a hostile foreign government.”

Why in Hell do you & the Trumpers continue to give the Trump camp a PASS on their attempts to work with a foreign adversarial government?
You REALLY just do NOT GET IT, do you?
Why don't you try discussing something else that you can keep up with; maybe try the Barbie Doll sub forum, or maybe the Knitting sub forum?

You are as dumb as a rock no offense to rocks. That's exactly what Hillary and the DNC did. They obtained phony intelligence from a foreign entity--the Russian government. Michael Steele got his information from Russia and sold it to Fusion GPS who handed that info to Hillary. Comey then used that unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump and his administration.

Junior admitted this to Congress. There is no law that states you can't get opposition research from a foreign entity, and you don't have to tell the FBI about anything. He (like Hillary) broke no laws in that regards.

If what you claim is true, and I am not saying it is, or is not, there would be multiple layers of contacts required to pull off such a stunt.
In such a scenario it would likely be impossible for the original source(s) to know whom the end user recipient(s) may ever be, and vice versa.
Such is the world of international tom foolery.


So, place that scenario template right over the fact that Trump Jr. & Trump campaign associates met DIRECTLY with Russian foreign agents at Trump Tower NY to get dirt on HRC.

So you have the potential for many multiple layers of contacts by completely anonymous parties in the former scenario & you want to compare that to the verified DIRECT CONTACT between top level associates of the Trump campaign, even Trump Jr., to obtain dirt on an opponent?

Dude, you are actually MUCH DUMBER than I even imagined.

Why don't you go down to the play ground and take a ride on your fucking merry-go-round?

So what are you saying, that it's okay to get dirt on an opponent as long as it goes through a third party, but not directly? And you call me dumb?

Why Mueller didn’t bring campaign finance charges over the Trump Tower meeting

 

[caddo kid]

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

You really are not that bright; are you?

You obviously do not understand FEC rules when it comes to obtaining 'dirt' from a foreign entity on a political opponent during a POTUS campaign.

Mueller has already done the work that proves that Trump Jr. & multiple others from the Trump campaign made the attempt to obtain 'dirt' on Trump's political rival, from foreign nationals.

The FEC now has the obligation to pursue this in civil litigation.

“The Special Counsel’s office has done all the investigation that is necessary for the FEC to find that the Trump campaign and its senior officials, including Donald Trump Jr., violated the ban on soliciting campaign assistance from a foreign national, much less from the agents of a hostile foreign government.”

Why in Hell do you & the Trumpers continue to give the Trump camp a PASS on their attempts to work with a foreign adversarial government?
You REALLY just do NOT GET IT, do you?
Why don't you try discussing something else that you can keep up with; maybe try the Barbie Doll sub forum, or maybe the Knitting sub forum?

You are as dumb as a rock no offense to rocks. That's exactly what Hillary and the DNC did. They obtained phony intelligence from a foreign entity--the Russian government. Michael Steele got his information from Russia and sold it to Fusion GPS who handed that info to Hillary. Comey then used that unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump and his administration.

Junior admitted this to Congress. There is no law that states you can't get opposition research from a foreign entity, and you don't have to tell the FBI about anything. He (like Hillary) broke no laws in that regards.

If what you claim is true, and I am not saying it is, or is not, there would be multiple layers of contacts required to pull off such a stunt.
In such a scenario it would likely be impossible for the original source(s) to know whom the end user recipient(s) may ever be, and vice versa.
Such is the world of international tom foolery.


So, place that scenario template right over the fact that Trump Jr. & Trump campaign associates met DIRECTLY with Russian foreign agents at Trump Tower NY to get dirt on HRC.

So you have the potential for many multiple layers of contacts by completely anonymous parties in the former scenario & you want to compare that to the verified DIRECT CONTACT between top level associates of the Trump campaign, even Trump Jr., to obtain dirt on an opponent?

Dude, you are actually MUCH DUMBER than I even imagined.

Why don't you go down to the play ground and take a ride on your fucking merry-go-round?

So what are you saying, that it's okay to get dirt on an opponent as long as it goes through a third party, but not directly? And you call me dumb?

Why Mueller didn’t bring campaign finance charges over the Trump Tower meeting

OK? No, I didn't say it was OK.

My implication is the former scenario is going to be basically anonymous & the latter scenario (Trump Tower NY meeting) that is documented to have taken place is a very DIRECT & verifiable situation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

re: post #147

Wouldn't YOU you think that if the FBI is offering intel briefings & warning to the campaigns about foreign interference
then if that actually occurs the campaign might notify the FBI when that actually occurs?

Come on; are you really that stupid not to be able to put 2 plus 2 together?

I swear; some folks around here are just too ignorant to discuss anything with.

Try reading the thread next time AND try using sound fucking common sense.

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

You really are not that bright; are you?

You obviously do not understand FEC rules when it comes to obtaining 'dirt' from a foreign entity on a political opponent during a POTUS campaign.

Mueller has already done the work that proves that Trump Jr. & multiple others from the Trump campaign made the attempt to obtain 'dirt' on Trump's political rival, from foreign nationals.

The FEC now has the obligation to pursue this in civil litigation.

“The Special Counsel’s office has done all the investigation that is necessary for the FEC to find that the Trump campaign and its senior officials, including Donald Trump Jr., violated the ban on soliciting campaign assistance from a foreign national, much less from the agents of a hostile foreign government.”

Why in Hell do you & the Trumpers continue to give the Trump camp a PASS on their attempts to work with a foreign adversarial government?
You REALLY just do NOT GET IT, do you?
Why don't you try discussing something else that you can keep up with; maybe try the Barbie Doll sub forum, or maybe the Knitting sub forum?

You are as dumb as a rock no offense to rocks. That's exactly what Hillary and the DNC did. They obtained phony intelligence from a foreign entity--the Russian government. Michael Steele got his information from Russia and sold it to Fusion GPS who handed that info to Hillary. Comey then used that unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump and his administration.

Junior admitted this to Congress. There is no law that states you can't get opposition research from a foreign entity, and you don't have to tell the FBI about anything. He (like Hillary) broke no laws in that regards.

If what you claim is true, and I am not saying it is, or is not, there would be multiple layers of contacts required to pull off such a stunt.
In such a scenario it would likely be impossible for the original source(s) to know whom the end user recipient(s) may ever be, and vice versa.
Such is the world of international tom foolery.


So, place that scenario template right over the fact that Trump Jr. & Trump campaign associates met DIRECTLY with Russian foreign agents at Trump Tower NY to get dirt on HRC.

So you have the potential for many multiple layers of contacts by completely anonymous parties in the former scenario & you want to compare that to the verified DIRECT CONTACT between top level associates of the Trump campaign, even Trump Jr., to obtain dirt on an opponent?

Dude, you are actually MUCH DUMBER than I even imagined.

Why don't you go down to the play ground and take a ride on your fucking merry-go-round?

So what are you saying, that it's okay to get dirt on an opponent as long as it goes through a third party, but not directly? And you call me dumb?

Why Mueller didn’t bring campaign finance charges over the Trump Tower meeting

Haha... you do realize that their best defense there is that they are ignorant retards, right? Good for us, a white house full of retards.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Try growing a brain. You don't know the Fn difference between getting opposition research from a foreign entity and infiltrating an election?

You really are not that bright; are you?

You obviously do not understand FEC rules when it comes to obtaining 'dirt' from a foreign entity on a political opponent during a POTUS campaign.

Mueller has already done the work that proves that Trump Jr. & multiple others from the Trump campaign made the attempt to obtain 'dirt' on Trump's political rival, from foreign nationals.

The FEC now has the obligation to pursue this in civil litigation.

“The Special Counsel’s office has done all the investigation that is necessary for the FEC to find that the Trump campaign and its senior officials, including Donald Trump Jr., violated the ban on soliciting campaign assistance from a foreign national, much less from the agents of a hostile foreign government.”

Why in Hell do you & the Trumpers continue to give the Trump camp a PASS on their attempts to work with a foreign adversarial government?
You REALLY just do NOT GET IT, do you?
Why don't you try discussing something else that you can keep up with; maybe try the Barbie Doll sub forum, or maybe the Knitting sub forum?

You are as dumb as a rock no offense to rocks. That's exactly what Hillary and the DNC did. They obtained phony intelligence from a foreign entity--the Russian government. Michael Steele got his information from Russia and sold it to Fusion GPS who handed that info to Hillary. Comey then used that unverified information to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trump and his administration.

Junior admitted this to Congress. There is no law that states you can't get opposition research from a foreign entity, and you don't have to tell the FBI about anything. He (like Hillary) broke no laws in that regards.

If what you claim is true, and I am not saying it is, or is not, there would be multiple layers of contacts required to pull off such a stunt.
In such a scenario it would likely be impossible for the original source(s) to know whom the end user recipient(s) may ever be, and vice versa.
Such is the world of international tom foolery.


So, place that scenario template right over the fact that Trump Jr. & Trump campaign associates met DIRECTLY with Russian foreign agents at Trump Tower NY to get dirt on HRC.

So you have the potential for many multiple layers of contacts by completely anonymous parties in the former scenario & you want to compare that to the verified DIRECT CONTACT between top level associates of the Trump campaign, even Trump Jr., to obtain dirt on an opponent?

Dude, you are actually MUCH DUMBER than I even imagined.

Why don't you go down to the play ground and take a ride on your fucking merry-go-round?

So what are you saying, that it's okay to get dirt on an opponent as long as it goes through a third party, but not directly? And you call me dumb?

Why Mueller didn’t bring campaign finance charges over the Trump Tower meeting

Haha... you do realize that their best defense there is that they are ignorant retards, right? Good for us, a white house full of retards.

Those retards are doing a pretty good job setting new economic records all the time. I also think that when they investigate the last bunch of retards, we will be treated to this by the left.