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Doncha just love how these adorable little libtards pop out these unlinked charts as if they are proof of anything?Bill Clinton created more jobs than Reagan + Bush 1 + Bush 2 combined!!!
Again, if they are not "redeemed" to cover the current budget deficit then the GOP National Debt would go down. Has the GOP National Debt ever gone down? NO! So they have never been redeemed for anything other than the general expenses of the federal government like all other federal taxes.Nope, all SS benefits are pay as you go, that is why the Right call it a Ponzi Scheme. If those Treasury bonds were ever redeemed the GOP National Debt would have gone down. It never has.And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????That is not exactly what the Social Security Administration says.
"The Social Security trust funds are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury. There are two separate Social Security trust funds, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund pays retirement and survivors benefits, and the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund pays disability benefits.
Social Security taxes and other income are deposited in these accounts, and Social Security benefits are paid from them. The only purposes for which these trust funds can be used are to pay benefits and program administrative costs.
The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. A market rate of interest is paid to the trust funds on the bonds they hold, and when those bonds reach maturity or are needed to pay benefits, the Treasury redeems them.
Social Security Administration: What are the Trust Funds?
Answer, never and they never will.
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Yes, it is a ponzi scheme, but the bonds are issued and redeemed all the time. The problem would be if they redeemed ALL of them at once. When a bond reaches maturity it has to be redeemed. Even a third grader knows that.
If the words were being put in Trump's lying mouth they would have had "quotation marks" like the FAKE quote below from the lying scum Right.It's not deceptive. If the Right did the title and Trump was a Democrat, they would have put quotation marks around "lazy freeloaders."No that means it is not attributed to Trump as a quote!!!That means it was just taken out of his ass.
Look at the title of this string and tell me that it isn't deceptive.
It's totally deceptive. You're putting words in the mouth of someone who didn't say them by paraphrasing what YOU think he meant by the words he did say!
Or this FAKE quote from the lying scum Right.
You showed nothing, you simply pontificated!Again, if they are not "redeemed" to cover the current budget deficit then the GOP National Debt would go down. Has the GOP National Debt ever gone down? NO! So they have never been redeemed for anything other than the general expenses of the federal government like all other federal taxes.Nope, all SS benefits are pay as you go, that is why the Right call it a Ponzi Scheme. If those Treasury bonds were ever redeemed the GOP National Debt would have gone down. It never has.And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will.
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Yes, it is a ponzi scheme, but the bonds are issued and redeemed all the time. The problem would be if they redeemed ALL of them at once. When a bond reaches maturity it has to be redeemed. Even a third grader knows that.
This is what you said.
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
Now that I have shown that is BS, you ask a rather stupid question.
NO!If the words were being put in Trump's lying mouth they would have had "quotation marks" like the FAKE quote below from the lying scum Right.It's not deceptive. If the Right did the title and Trump was a Democrat, they would have put quotation marks around "lazy freeloaders."No that means it is not attributed to Trump as a quote!!!
Look at the title of this string and tell me that it isn't deceptive.
It's totally deceptive. You're putting words in the mouth of someone who didn't say them by paraphrasing what YOU think he meant by the words he did say!
Or this FAKE quote from the lying scum Right.
Did those come from Media Matters?
Nope, all SS benefits are pay as you go, that is why the Right call it a Ponzi Scheme. If those Treasury bonds were ever redeemed the GOP National Debt would have gone down. It never has.And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????Fat chance of that ever happening. When there is no longer a yearly SS surplus the benefits will be cut or the payroll tax raised or both. SS is seen by the politicians as a pay as you go fund, there is no "trust fund" except in the imaginary world of financial paper. That is why the GOP want to privatize it.The surplus may be borrowed but must be paid back with interest.
What is Social Security? | National Academy of Social Insurance
Social Security is largely a pay-as-you-go program. This means that today's workers pay Social Security taxes into the program and money flows back out as monthly income to beneficiaries.
That is not exactly what the Social Security Administration says.
"The Social Security trust funds are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury. There are two separate Social Security trust funds, the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund pays retirement and survivors benefits, and the Disability Insurance (DI) Trust Fund pays disability benefits.
Social Security taxes and other income are deposited in these accounts, and Social Security benefits are paid from them. The only purposes for which these trust funds can be used are to pay benefits and program administrative costs.
The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. A market rate of interest is paid to the trust funds on the bonds they hold, and when those bonds reach maturity or are needed to pay benefits, the Treasury redeems them.
Social Security Administration: What are the Trust Funds?
Answer, never and they never will.
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
If any of the bonds were repaid between 1975 and 1983, the GOP National Debt would have gone down.Between 1975 and 1983 about 40 billion of those bonds were repaid.
If any of the bonds were repaid between 1975 and 1983, the GOP National Debt would have gone down.Between 1975 and 1983 about 40 billion of those bonds were repaid.
Please show me at least one year when the GOP National Debt went down.
Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1950 - 1999
NO!If the words were being put in Trump's lying mouth they would have had "quotation marks" like the FAKE quote below from the lying scum Right.It's not deceptive. If the Right did the title and Trump was a Democrat, they would have put quotation marks around "lazy freeloaders."Look at the title of this string and tell me that it isn't deceptive.
It's totally deceptive. You're putting words in the mouth of someone who didn't say them by paraphrasing what YOU think he meant by the words he did say!
Or this FAKE quote from the lying scum Right.
Did those come from Media Matters?
Try again.
7 Hillary Clinton quotes on the Internet that are complete fakes
You showed nothing, you simply pontificated!Again, if they are not "redeemed" to cover the current budget deficit then the GOP National Debt would go down. Has the GOP National Debt ever gone down? NO! So they have never been redeemed for anything other than the general expenses of the federal government like all other federal taxes.Nope, all SS benefits are pay as you go, that is why the Right call it a Ponzi Scheme. If those Treasury bonds were ever redeemed the GOP National Debt would have gone down. It never has."New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Yes, it is a ponzi scheme, but the bonds are issued and redeemed all the time. The problem would be if they redeemed ALL of them at once. When a bond reaches maturity it has to be redeemed. Even a third grader knows that.
This is what you said.
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
Now that I have shown that is BS, you ask a rather stupid question.
Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”
By Daily News Bin | September 13, 2016 | 8
Donald Trump says “fifty percent” of Americans are lazy freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything”
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So much for Donald Trump’s attempt to paint Hillary Clinton as being divisive because she referred to half of his supporters (roughly twenty percent of voters, and a far lower percentage of the overall population) as being in a “basket of deplorables.” It turns out Trump himself has thrown half the country under the bus with his own words, writing them off as being freeloaders who “don’t have to do anything” because the other half of the country is carrying them.
Whereas Mitt Romney was famously caught writing off “47%” of Americans as being lazy bums during a speech at a private event which was subsequently leaked on video, Donald Trump bizarrely made his remark on television. He told Fox News host Sean Hannity back in June of last year that “The problem we have right now—we have a society that sits back and says we don’t have to do anything. Eventually, the 50 percent cannot carry — and it’s unfair to them — but cannot carry the other 50 percent.”
What a nasty piece of shit this man is. I guardanfuckingtee that a lot of the lower 50% pay state taxes, sales tax and property taxes and most of them work for a goddamn living. What a scum bag! What's even nastier is the reality that parasites like Trump take most of the goddamn wealth that many of the workers in that lower 50% should be getting and fucks them over.
Please god don't do this to America! I beg of you.
You showed nothing, you simply pontificated!Again, if they are not "redeemed" to cover the current budget deficit then the GOP National Debt would go down. Has the GOP National Debt ever gone down? NO! So they have never been redeemed for anything other than the general expenses of the federal government like all other federal taxes.Nope, all SS benefits are pay as you go, that is why the Right call it a Ponzi Scheme. If those Treasury bonds were ever redeemed the GOP National Debt would have gone down. It never has.
Yes, it is a ponzi scheme, but the bonds are issued and redeemed all the time. The problem would be if they redeemed ALL of them at once. When a bond reaches maturity it has to be redeemed. Even a third grader knows that.
This is what you said.
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
Now that I have shown that is BS, you ask a rather stupid question.
When did you look up that big word? You obviously don't even know what it means. I will keep it simple for your simple mind.
You posted BS:
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
I posted from the Social Security website:
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Don't get too worked up. I think he was referring to his own kids.
Now, you should consider doing penance. I suggest that you contribute to his charitable foundation. That way, he'll have some ready cash to pay off his legal bills when it comes to his Trump University scam and his misuse of his charitable funds which he used to buy portraits of himself that end up hanging in his hotels.
You showed nothing, you simply pontificated!Again, if they are not "redeemed" to cover the current budget deficit then the GOP National Debt would go down. Has the GOP National Debt ever gone down? NO! So they have never been redeemed for anything other than the general expenses of the federal government like all other federal taxes.Yes, it is a ponzi scheme, but the bonds are issued and redeemed all the time. The problem would be if they redeemed ALL of them at once. When a bond reaches maturity it has to be redeemed. Even a third grader knows that.
This is what you said.
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
Now that I have shown that is BS, you ask a rather stupid question.
When did you look up that big word? You obviously don't even know what it means. I will keep it simple for your simple mind.
You posted BS:
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
I posted from the Social Security website:
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Here is the article :
Social Security Trust Fund's Fall Is First Since 1983
He wasn't referring to proximity...a reminder for the hard of comprehending - "...and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn’t be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water.”He's just embarrassing...Oh, that's right...even if they mouth bad words behind their hands at the US Navy Trump will issue the order to launch.
Putin doesn't RESPECT Trump...he has him in his pocket.
No dumbass....if they mess with us we mess with them....happened all the time during the Cold War and nobody got nuked. And Trump is in nobody's "pocket"....get out of the basement once in awhile...he funded his own primary campaign for that very reason.
Speaking at a campaign rally in Pensacola, Florida, on Friday night, Donald Trump indicated that, as president, he would attack Iran if their sailors made improper gestures toward the U.S. Navy.
“When [the Iranians] circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats, and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn’t be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water.”
Trump Favors Regime Change in Iran, Says He’ll Attack Them Over Rude Gestures
You idiot if the Iranians were close enough to our ships for anyone to see what fingers they are holding up THEY ARE ENTIRELY WITHIN OUR RESTRICTED DEFENSE ZONE.
My Gawd, how stupid can you shit4brains monkeys get?
You showed nothing, you simply pontificated!Again, if they are not "redeemed" to cover the current budget deficit then the GOP National Debt would go down. Has the GOP National Debt ever gone down? NO! So they have never been redeemed for anything other than the general expenses of the federal government like all other federal taxes.
This is what you said.
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
Now that I have shown that is BS, you ask a rather stupid question.
When did you look up that big word? You obviously don't even know what it means. I will keep it simple for your simple mind.
You posted BS:
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
I posted from the Social Security website:
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Here is the article :
Social Security Trust Fund's Fall Is First Since 1983
you're aware it's a projection and hasn't occurred, right?
You showed nothing, you simply pontificated!This is what you said.
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
Now that I have shown that is BS, you ask a rather stupid question.
When did you look up that big word? You obviously don't even know what it means. I will keep it simple for your simple mind.
You posted BS:
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
I posted from the Social Security website:
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Here is the article :
Social Security Trust Fund's Fall Is First Since 1983
you're aware it's a projection and hasn't occurred, right?
You will have to show me in the article where it says projected. "The Social Security Trust Fund just suffered its first annual decline since Congress shored up the retirement program in 1983." Jed Graham is a fairly solid writer, so show-me.
You showed nothing, you simply pontificated!
When did you look up that big word? You obviously don't even know what it means. I will keep it simple for your simple mind.
You posted BS:
"And when exactly has even one of those "special" Treasury bonds ever been paid????
Answer, never and they never will."
I posted from the Social Security website:
"New bonds are purchased every day from the revenue coming into the government, and they are credited to the trust funds. Similarly, whenever any money is expended from the trust funds, for benefits or for any administrative expenses, this comes from redeeming bonds. So, bonds are issued and redeemed all the time."
Here is the article :
Social Security Trust Fund's Fall Is First Since 1983
you're aware it's a projection and hasn't occurred, right?
You will have to show me in the article where it says projected. "The Social Security Trust Fund just suffered its first annual decline since Congress shored up the retirement program in 1983." Jed Graham is a fairly solid writer, so show-me.
the graph at your link makes clear that it's based on CBO projections.
