Dr King Would Have Been A Tea Party Member

[BlueGin]

And this black Tea Party member...

Democrat racism on display. Bitch implies this man has no children he "claims". What a hag. The other twat tells him to get back behind the fence "where he belongs".

They always show their true colors...ALWAYS.

 

[BlueGin]

What do these black Tea Party members think of the claim that the Tea Party is racist....gee....I don't think the democrats allowed blacks into the ku klux klan...did they?

The glaring difference here is that we FINALLY get to see and hear folks that actually know what is going on in the world and in US Politics. Very refreshing

 

[BlueGin]

And this is one of my favorite Tea Party members...I love his videos.....look up Zo Nation on Youtube...

Liberals Resent America... But won't leave.

So true.

I like this guy. I have listened to his videos before. He is also on the mark about Libertarians.

 

[Lakhota]

Yes, Dr. King loved old white narrow-minded racists.

 

[Pheonixops]

In his LAST speech ever and just a day before his death by the hands of a democrat Dr, King gave a short four and a half minute speech. He did not talk about what the democrats had done to the Negro. No he talked about what democratic government had done to ALL people.

After that he invoked the name of God and Gods word. Democrats killed that man because forty plus years ago he saw what democrats could and would do to a people and a nation.And every word out of his mouth are the VERY issues we are facing today from democrats.

Don't keep your "day job", go out and be a standup comedian! Thas was some funny shit right there!

 

[kaz]

That Jesus ever advocated government solutions to our problems is retarded. He advocated YOU solution to problems, which Democrats are diametrically opposed to

Social programs did not exist in those days but it is dumb to think he would be against anything that mitigated poverty.

Jesus believed in personal responsibility, so yes, he would. And particularly because government doesn't "mitigate" poverty, it institutionalizes it

Whatever lets you sleep at night. Jesus was not fond of rationalizations either. He knows you would rather keep your taxes for your own personal enrichment than feed hungry people.

You are making shit up, and dude, you are terrible at making shit up. It sounds like the result of an Obama, Reid, Pelosi circle jerk.

Christianity, which you know nothing about, is not about keeping people technically alive. It's not charity either when you give other people's money or when their money is removed by force. There is zero in the bible to support that Jesus would advocate that

I had an incredibly strict southern baptist upbringing, I know everything I need to know about christian hypocrisy and how at odds it is with how Jesus apparently wanted us to live. Jesus did not give a damn about money, status, earthly power or any of the shit RW Christians seem to worship these days. He told us to go the extra mile to help out the less fortunate, until you "Christians" start to actually do that we must have social programs to feed people. He said "What you do to the least of you, you do to me". More people are dumping Christianity every day because of how mean and angry it has become, I did it years ago.

I was baptized a Southern Baptist also. Here's an easy question for you. Give me one example where Jesus gave credit to anyone for anything that they didn't personally do.

You know, like government charity.

Go...

 

[kaz]

Yes, Dr. King loved old white narrow-minded racists.

He didn't love racist indian dicks like you though

 

[orogenicman]

nazis are left wing socialists moron.....look at the nazi party platform....you'll see many similarities to the democrat party platfrom....

You mean the people who centralized authority, took the private property of a demonized wealthy group of people, nationalized all industry and labor, practiced eugenics, promoted the abolition of "unearned" income (meaning no interest based profit - anti-capitalism), promoted a massive social security system, federalized education, restricted the press and encouraged religious and racial hatred are just like modern democrooks?

Oh yeah...

That's fuckin' obvious.

I wonder then why every self described Nazi out there would curb stomp you for calling them a leftist? How do explain the disconnect when current Nazis are rightists and the left uniformly hates their racist skinhead guts?

Ask current national socialists what they think of limited government, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution....socialism of the German model of the 1930s-40s was not small, limited government...so it was left wing....not right wing.....

Wrong:

Nazism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics.[8] Far-right themes in Nazism include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate over other people and purge society of supposed inferior elements.[9] Adolf Hitler and other proponents officially portrayed Nazism as being neither left- nor right-wing, but syncretic.[10][11] Hitler in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany, saying:

Today our left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors [...] But the politicians of the Right deserve exactly the same reproach. It was through their miserable cowardice that those ruffians of Jews who came into power in 1918 were able to rob the nation of its arms.[12]

Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[13]

The Nazis were strongly influenced by the post–World War I far-right in Germany, which held common beliefs such as anti-Marxism, anti-liberalism, and antisemitism, along with nationalism, contempt towards the Treaty of Versailles, and condemnation of the Weimar Republic for signing the armistice in November 1918 that later led to their signing of the Treaty of Versailles.[14] A major inspiration for the Nazis were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organisations that engaged in political violence after World War I.[14] Initially, the post-World War I German far right was dominated by monarchists, but the younger generation, who were associated with Völkisch nationalism, were more radical and did not express any emphasis on the restoration of the German monarchy.[15] This younger generation desired to dismantle the Weimar Republic and create a new radical and strong state based upon a martial ruling ethic that could revive the "Spirit of 1914" that was associated with German national unity (Volksgemeinschaft).[15]

The Nazis, the far-right monarchist, reactionary German National People's Party (DNVP), and others, such as monarchist officers of the German Army and several prominent industrialists, formed an alliance in opposition to the Weimar Republic on 11 October 1931 in Bad Harzburg; officially known as the "National Front", but commonly referred to as the Harzburg Front.[16] The Nazis stated the alliance was purely tactical and there remained substantial differences with the DNVP. The Nazis described the DNVP as a bourgeois party and called themselves an anti-bourgeois party.[16] After the elections in 1932, the alliance broke after the DNVP lost many of its seats in the Reichstag. The Nazis denounced them as "an insignificant heap of reactionaries".[17] The DNVP responded by denouncing the Nazis for their socialism, their street violence, and the "economic experiments" that would take place if the Nazis rose to power.[18]

Kaiser Wilhelm II, who was pressured to abdicate the throne and flee into exile amidst an attempted communist revolution in Germany, initially supported the Nazi Party. His four sons, including Prince Eitel Friedrich and Prince Oskar, became members of the Nazi Party, in hopes that in exchange for their support, the Nazis would permit the restoration of the monarchy.[19]

There were factions in the Nazi Party, both conservative and radical.[20] The conservative Nazi Hermann Göring urged Hitler to conciliate with capitalists and reactionaries.[20] Other prominent conservative Nazis included Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.[21]

The radical Nazi Joseph Goebbels, hated capitalism, viewing it as having Jews at its core, and he stressed the need for the party to emphasise both a proletarian and national character. Those views were shared by Otto Strasser, who later left the Nazi Party in the belief that Hitler had betrayed the party's socialist goals by allegedly endorsing capitalism.[20] Large segments of the Nazi Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary, and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and economic revolution upon the party gaining power in 1933.[22] Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program.[22] The leader of the SA, Ernst Röhm, pushed for a "second revolution" (the "first revolution" being the Nazis' seizure of power) that would entrench the party's official socialist program. Further, Röhm desired that the SA absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks under his leadership.[22]

Prior to becoming an antisemite and a Nazi, Hitler had lived a Bohemian lifestyle as a wandering watercolour artist in Austria and southern Germany, though he maintained elements of it later in life.[23] Hitler served in World War I. After the war, his battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to the historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other,[24] which he took as evidence that Hitler's political beliefs had not yet solidified.[24] In Mein Kampf, Hitler never mentioned any service with the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and stated that he became an antisemite in 1913 in Vienna. This statement has been disputed with the contention he was not an antisemite at that time.[25]

Hitler altered his political views in response to the Treaty of Versailles of June 1919, and it was then that he became an antisemitic, German nationalist.[25] As a Nazi, Hitler had expressed opposition to capitalism, having regarded capitalism as having Jewish origins. He accused capitalism of holding nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.[26]

Hitler took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the Nazi Party, in that he accepted private property and allowed capitalist private enterprises to exist as long as they adhered to the goals of the Nazi state. However, if a capitalist private enterprise resisted Nazi goals, he sought to destroy it.[20] Upon the Nazis achieving power, Röhm's SA began attacks against individuals deemed to be associated with conservative reaction, without Hitler's authorisation.[27] Hitler considered Röhm's independent actions to be violating and threatening his leadership, as well as jeopardising the regime by alienating the conservative President Paul von Hindenburg and the conservative-oriented German Army.[28] This resulted in Hitler purging Röhm and other radical members of the SA in what came to be known as the Night of the Long Knives.[28]

Although he opposed communist ideology, Hitler on numerous occasions publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism.[29] Hitler commended Stalin for seeking to purify the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of Jewish influences, noting Stalin's purging of Jewish communists such as Leon Trotsky, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and Karl Radek.[30] While Hitler always intended to bring Germany into conflict against the Soviet Union to gain Lebensraum (living space), he supported a temporary strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to form a common anti-liberal front to crush liberal democracies, particularly France.[29]

 

[orogenicman]

Social programs did not exist in those days but it is dumb to think he would be against anything that mitigated poverty.

Jesus believed in personal responsibility, so yes, he would. And particularly because government doesn't "mitigate" poverty, it institutionalizes it

Whatever lets you sleep at night. Jesus was not fond of rationalizations either. He knows you would rather keep your taxes for your own personal enrichment than feed hungry people.

You are making shit up, and dude, you are terrible at making shit up. It sounds like the result of an Obama, Reid, Pelosi circle jerk.

Christianity, which you know nothing about, is not about keeping people technically alive. It's not charity either when you give other people's money or when their money is removed by force. There is zero in the bible to support that Jesus would advocate that

I had an incredibly strict southern baptist upbringing, I know everything I need to know about christian hypocrisy and how at odds it is with how Jesus apparently wanted us to live. Jesus did not give a damn about money, status, earthly power or any of the shit RW Christians seem to worship these days. He told us to go the extra mile to help out the less fortunate, until you "Christians" start to actually do that we must have social programs to feed people. He said "What you do to the least of you, you do to me". More people are dumping Christianity every day because of how mean and angry it has become, I did it years ago.

I was baptized a Southern Baptist also. Here's an easy question for you. Give me one example where Jesus gave credit to anyone for anything that they didn't personally do.

You know, like government charity.

Go...

According to your bible Lazarus didn't raise himself from the dead. Who do you suppose did that for him?

 

[2aguy]

nazis are left wing socialists moron.....look at the nazi party platform....you'll see many similarities to the democrat party platfrom....

You mean the people who centralized authority, took the private property of a demonized wealthy group of people, nationalized all industry and labor, practiced eugenics, promoted the abolition of "unearned" income (meaning no interest based profit - anti-capitalism), promoted a massive social security system, federalized education, restricted the press and encouraged religious and racial hatred are just like modern democrooks?

Oh yeah...

That's fuckin' obvious.

I wonder then why every self described Nazi out there would curb stomp you for calling them a leftist? How do explain the disconnect when current Nazis are rightists and the left uniformly hates their racist skinhead guts?

Ask current national socialists what they think of limited government, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution....socialism of the German model of the 1930s-40s was not small, limited government...so it was left wing....not right wing.....

Wrong:

Nazism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics.[8] Far-right themes in Nazism include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate over other people and purge society of supposed inferior elements.[9] Adolf Hitler and other proponents officially portrayed Nazism as being neither left- nor right-wing, but syncretic.[10][11] Hitler in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany, saying:

Today our left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors [...] But the politicians of the Right deserve exactly the same reproach. It was through their miserable cowardice that those ruffians of Jews who came into power in 1918 were able to rob the nation of its arms.[12]

Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[13]

The Nazis were strongly influenced by the post–World War I far-right in Germany, which held common beliefs such as anti-Marxism, anti-liberalism, and antisemitism, along with nationalism, contempt towards the Treaty of Versailles, and condemnation of the Weimar Republic for signing the armistice in November 1918 that later led to their signing of the Treaty of Versailles.[14] A major inspiration for the Nazis were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organisations that engaged in political violence after World War I.[14] Initially, the post-World War I German far right was dominated by monarchists, but the younger generation, who were associated with Völkisch nationalism, were more radical and did not express any emphasis on the restoration of the German monarchy.[15] This younger generation desired to dismantle the Weimar Republic and create a new radical and strong state based upon a martial ruling ethic that could revive the "Spirit of 1914" that was associated with German national unity (Volksgemeinschaft).[15]

The Nazis, the far-right monarchist, reactionary German National People's Party (DNVP), and others, such as monarchist officers of the German Army and several prominent industrialists, formed an alliance in opposition to the Weimar Republic on 11 October 1931 in Bad Harzburg; officially known as the "National Front", but commonly referred to as the Harzburg Front.[16] The Nazis stated the alliance was purely tactical and there remained substantial differences with the DNVP. The Nazis described the DNVP as a bourgeois party and called themselves an anti-bourgeois party.[16] After the elections in 1932, the alliance broke after the DNVP lost many of its seats in the Reichstag. The Nazis denounced them as "an insignificant heap of reactionaries".[17] The DNVP responded by denouncing the Nazis for their socialism, their street violence, and the "economic experiments" that would take place if the Nazis rose to power.[18]

Kaiser Wilhelm II, who was pressured to abdicate the throne and flee into exile amidst an attempted communist revolution in Germany, initially supported the Nazi Party. His four sons, including Prince Eitel Friedrich and Prince Oskar, became members of the Nazi Party, in hopes that in exchange for their support, the Nazis would permit the restoration of the monarchy.[19]

There were factions in the Nazi Party, both conservative and radical.[20] The conservative Nazi Hermann Göring urged Hitler to conciliate with capitalists and reactionaries.[20] Other prominent conservative Nazis included Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.[21]

The radical Nazi Joseph Goebbels, hated capitalism, viewing it as having Jews at its core, and he stressed the need for the party to emphasise both a proletarian and national character. Those views were shared by Otto Strasser, who later left the Nazi Party in the belief that Hitler had betrayed the party's socialist goals by allegedly endorsing capitalism.[20] Large segments of the Nazi Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary, and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and economic revolution upon the party gaining power in 1933.[22] Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program.[22] The leader of the SA, Ernst Röhm, pushed for a "second revolution" (the "first revolution" being the Nazis' seizure of power) that would entrench the party's official socialist program. Further, Röhm desired that the SA absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks under his leadership.[22]

Prior to becoming an antisemite and a Nazi, Hitler had lived a Bohemian lifestyle as a wandering watercolour artist in Austria and southern Germany, though he maintained elements of it later in life.[23] Hitler served in World War I. After the war, his battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to the historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other,[24] which he took as evidence that Hitler's political beliefs had not yet solidified.[24] In Mein Kampf, Hitler never mentioned any service with the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and stated that he became an antisemite in 1913 in Vienna. This statement has been disputed with the contention he was not an antisemite at that time.[25]

Hitler altered his political views in response to the Treaty of Versailles of June 1919, and it was then that he became an antisemitic, German nationalist.[25] As a Nazi, Hitler had expressed opposition to capitalism, having regarded capitalism as having Jewish origins. He accused capitalism of holding nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.[26]

Hitler took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the Nazi Party, in that he accepted private property and allowed capitalist private enterprises to exist as long as they adhered to the goals of the Nazi state. However, if a capitalist private enterprise resisted Nazi goals, he sought to destroy it.[20] Upon the Nazis achieving power, Röhm's SA began attacks against individuals deemed to be associated with conservative reaction, without Hitler's authorisation.[27] Hitler considered Röhm's independent actions to be violating and threatening his leadership, as well as jeopardising the regime by alienating the conservative President Paul von Hindenburg and the conservative-oriented German Army.[28] This resulted in Hitler purging Röhm and other radical members of the SA in what came to be known as the Night of the Long Knives.[28]

Although he opposed communist ideology, Hitler on numerous occasions publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism.[29] Hitler commended Stalin for seeking to purify the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of Jewish influences, noting Stalin's purging of Jewish communists such as Leon Trotsky, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and Karl Radek.[30] While Hitler always intended to bring Germany into conflict against the Soviet Union to gain Lebensraum (living space), he supported a temporary strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to form a common anti-liberal front to crush liberal democracies, particularly France.[29]

and they are wrong.....hitter and the nazis were leftists, and believed in the supremacy of the state....

The international socialists have to lie about the nazis..otherwise all the worst mass murderers in history would be known to be lefty statists.....

 

[2aguy]

And some more thoughts on the socialism of the nazis...

Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism Telegraph Blogs


Goebbels never doubted that he was a socialist. He understood Nazism to be a better and more plausible form of socialism than that propagated by Lenin. Instead of spreading itself across different nations, it would operate within the unit of the Volk.

So total is the cultural victory of the modern Left that the merely to recount this fact is jarring. But few at the time would have found it especially contentious. As George Watson put it in The Lost Literature of Socialism:

It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too.



What I want to do, by holding up the mirror, is to take on the equally false idea that there is an ideological continuum between free-marketers and fascists.

The idea that Nazism is a more extreme form of conservatism has insinuated its way into popular culture. You hear it, not only when spotty students yell “fascist” at Tories, but when pundits talk of revolutionary anti-capitalist parties, such as the BNP and Golden Dawn, as “far Right”.

What is it based on, this connection? Little beyond a jejune sense that Left-wing means compassionate and Right-wing means nasty and fascists are nasty. When written down like that, the notion sounds idiotic, but think of the groups around the world that the BBC, for example, calls “Right-wing”: the Taliban, who want communal ownership of goods; the Iranian revolutionaries, who abolished the monarchy, seized industries and destroyed the middle class; Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who pined for Stalinism. The “Nazis-were-far-Right” shtick is a symptom of the wider notion that “Right-wing” is a synonym for “baddie”.

 

[orogenicman]

nazis are left wing socialists moron.....look at the nazi party platform....you'll see many similarities to the democrat party platfrom....

You mean the people who centralized authority, took the private property of a demonized wealthy group of people, nationalized all industry and labor, practiced eugenics, promoted the abolition of "unearned" income (meaning no interest based profit - anti-capitalism), promoted a massive social security system, federalized education, restricted the press and encouraged religious and racial hatred are just like modern democrooks?

Oh yeah...

That's fuckin' obvious.

I wonder then why every self described Nazi out there would curb stomp you for calling them a leftist? How do explain the disconnect when current Nazis are rightists and the left uniformly hates their racist skinhead guts?

Ask current national socialists what they think of limited government, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution....socialism of the German model of the 1930s-40s was not small, limited government...so it was left wing....not right wing.....

Wrong:

Nazism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics.[8] Far-right themes in Nazism include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate over other people and purge society of supposed inferior elements.[9] Adolf Hitler and other proponents officially portrayed Nazism as being neither left- nor right-wing, but syncretic.[10][11] Hitler in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany, saying:

Today our left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors [...] But the politicians of the Right deserve exactly the same reproach. It was through their miserable cowardice that those ruffians of Jews who came into power in 1918 were able to rob the nation of its arms.[12]

Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[13]

The Nazis were strongly influenced by the post–World War I far-right in Germany, which held common beliefs such as anti-Marxism, anti-liberalism, and antisemitism, along with nationalism, contempt towards the Treaty of Versailles, and condemnation of the Weimar Republic for signing the armistice in November 1918 that later led to their signing of the Treaty of Versailles.[14] A major inspiration for the Nazis were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organisations that engaged in political violence after World War I.[14] Initially, the post-World War I German far right was dominated by monarchists, but the younger generation, who were associated with Völkisch nationalism, were more radical and did not express any emphasis on the restoration of the German monarchy.[15] This younger generation desired to dismantle the Weimar Republic and create a new radical and strong state based upon a martial ruling ethic that could revive the "Spirit of 1914" that was associated with German national unity (Volksgemeinschaft).[15]

The Nazis, the far-right monarchist, reactionary German National People's Party (DNVP), and others, such as monarchist officers of the German Army and several prominent industrialists, formed an alliance in opposition to the Weimar Republic on 11 October 1931 in Bad Harzburg; officially known as the "National Front", but commonly referred to as the Harzburg Front.[16] The Nazis stated the alliance was purely tactical and there remained substantial differences with the DNVP. The Nazis described the DNVP as a bourgeois party and called themselves an anti-bourgeois party.[16] After the elections in 1932, the alliance broke after the DNVP lost many of its seats in the Reichstag. The Nazis denounced them as "an insignificant heap of reactionaries".[17] The DNVP responded by denouncing the Nazis for their socialism, their street violence, and the "economic experiments" that would take place if the Nazis rose to power.[18]

Kaiser Wilhelm II, who was pressured to abdicate the throne and flee into exile amidst an attempted communist revolution in Germany, initially supported the Nazi Party. His four sons, including Prince Eitel Friedrich and Prince Oskar, became members of the Nazi Party, in hopes that in exchange for their support, the Nazis would permit the restoration of the monarchy.[19]

There were factions in the Nazi Party, both conservative and radical.[20] The conservative Nazi Hermann Göring urged Hitler to conciliate with capitalists and reactionaries.[20] Other prominent conservative Nazis included Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.[21]

The radical Nazi Joseph Goebbels, hated capitalism, viewing it as having Jews at its core, and he stressed the need for the party to emphasise both a proletarian and national character. Those views were shared by Otto Strasser, who later left the Nazi Party in the belief that Hitler had betrayed the party's socialist goals by allegedly endorsing capitalism.[20] Large segments of the Nazi Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary, and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and economic revolution upon the party gaining power in 1933.[22] Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program.[22] The leader of the SA, Ernst Röhm, pushed for a "second revolution" (the "first revolution" being the Nazis' seizure of power) that would entrench the party's official socialist program. Further, Röhm desired that the SA absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks under his leadership.[22]

Prior to becoming an antisemite and a Nazi, Hitler had lived a Bohemian lifestyle as a wandering watercolour artist in Austria and southern Germany, though he maintained elements of it later in life.[23] Hitler served in World War I. After the war, his battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to the historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other,[24] which he took as evidence that Hitler's political beliefs had not yet solidified.[24] In Mein Kampf, Hitler never mentioned any service with the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and stated that he became an antisemite in 1913 in Vienna. This statement has been disputed with the contention he was not an antisemite at that time.[25]

Hitler altered his political views in response to the Treaty of Versailles of June 1919, and it was then that he became an antisemitic, German nationalist.[25] As a Nazi, Hitler had expressed opposition to capitalism, having regarded capitalism as having Jewish origins. He accused capitalism of holding nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.[26]

Hitler took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the Nazi Party, in that he accepted private property and allowed capitalist private enterprises to exist as long as they adhered to the goals of the Nazi state. However, if a capitalist private enterprise resisted Nazi goals, he sought to destroy it.[20] Upon the Nazis achieving power, Röhm's SA began attacks against individuals deemed to be associated with conservative reaction, without Hitler's authorisation.[27] Hitler considered Röhm's independent actions to be violating and threatening his leadership, as well as jeopardising the regime by alienating the conservative President Paul von Hindenburg and the conservative-oriented German Army.[28] This resulted in Hitler purging Röhm and other radical members of the SA in what came to be known as the Night of the Long Knives.[28]

Although he opposed communist ideology, Hitler on numerous occasions publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism.[29] Hitler commended Stalin for seeking to purify the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of Jewish influences, noting Stalin's purging of Jewish communists such as Leon Trotsky, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and Karl Radek.[30] While Hitler always intended to bring Germany into conflict against the Soviet Union to gain Lebensraum (living space), he supported a temporary strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to form a common anti-liberal front to crush liberal democracies, particularly France.[29]

and they are wrong.....hitter and the nazis were leftists, and believed in the supremacy of the state....

The international socialists have to lie about the nazis..otherwise all the worst mass murderers in history would be seen to be lefty statists.....

You are about as confused as a person can be wrt to history and politics. You seem to believe that modern American right wing politics OWNS all of right wing politics. That likely stems from the tendency of American right wing pundants towards social and historical revisionism. Or silly notion that there is no socialism in right wing politics. Nazism sprung from European fascism, which is utterly right wing in nature.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

In his LAST speech ever and just a day before his death by the hands of a democrat Dr, King gave a short four and a half minute speech. He did not talk about what the democrats had done to the Negro. No he talked about what democratic government had done to ALL people.

After that he invoked the name of God and Gods word. Democrats killed that man because forty plus years ago he saw what democrats could and would do to a people and a nation.And every word out of his mouth are the VERY issues we are facing today from democrats.

Back in those days democrats like Ronald reagen and jfk could say the word God in public.

 

[2aguy]

You mean the people who centralized authority, took the private property of a demonized wealthy group of people, nationalized all industry and labor, practiced eugenics, promoted the abolition of "unearned" income (meaning no interest based profit - anti-capitalism), promoted a massive social security system, federalized education, restricted the press and encouraged religious and racial hatred are just like modern democrooks?

Oh yeah...

That's fuckin' obvious.

I wonder then why every self described Nazi out there would curb stomp you for calling them a leftist? How do explain the disconnect when current Nazis are rightists and the left uniformly hates their racist skinhead guts?

Ask current national socialists what they think of limited government, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution....socialism of the German model of the 1930s-40s was not small, limited government...so it was left wing....not right wing.....

Wrong:

Nazism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics.[8] Far-right themes in Nazism include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate over other people and purge society of supposed inferior elements.[9] Adolf Hitler and other proponents officially portrayed Nazism as being neither left- nor right-wing, but syncretic.[10][11] Hitler in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany, saying:

Today our left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors [...] But the politicians of the Right deserve exactly the same reproach. It was through their miserable cowardice that those ruffians of Jews who came into power in 1918 were able to rob the nation of its arms.[12]

Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[13]

The Nazis were strongly influenced by the post–World War I far-right in Germany, which held common beliefs such as anti-Marxism, anti-liberalism, and antisemitism, along with nationalism, contempt towards the Treaty of Versailles, and condemnation of the Weimar Republic for signing the armistice in November 1918 that later led to their signing of the Treaty of Versailles.[14] A major inspiration for the Nazis were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organisations that engaged in political violence after World War I.[14] Initially, the post-World War I German far right was dominated by monarchists, but the younger generation, who were associated with Völkisch nationalism, were more radical and did not express any emphasis on the restoration of the German monarchy.[15] This younger generation desired to dismantle the Weimar Republic and create a new radical and strong state based upon a martial ruling ethic that could revive the "Spirit of 1914" that was associated with German national unity (Volksgemeinschaft).[15]

The Nazis, the far-right monarchist, reactionary German National People's Party (DNVP), and others, such as monarchist officers of the German Army and several prominent industrialists, formed an alliance in opposition to the Weimar Republic on 11 October 1931 in Bad Harzburg; officially known as the "National Front", but commonly referred to as the Harzburg Front.[16] The Nazis stated the alliance was purely tactical and there remained substantial differences with the DNVP. The Nazis described the DNVP as a bourgeois party and called themselves an anti-bourgeois party.[16] After the elections in 1932, the alliance broke after the DNVP lost many of its seats in the Reichstag. The Nazis denounced them as "an insignificant heap of reactionaries".[17] The DNVP responded by denouncing the Nazis for their socialism, their street violence, and the "economic experiments" that would take place if the Nazis rose to power.[18]

Kaiser Wilhelm II, who was pressured to abdicate the throne and flee into exile amidst an attempted communist revolution in Germany, initially supported the Nazi Party. His four sons, including Prince Eitel Friedrich and Prince Oskar, became members of the Nazi Party, in hopes that in exchange for their support, the Nazis would permit the restoration of the monarchy.[19]

There were factions in the Nazi Party, both conservative and radical.[20] The conservative Nazi Hermann Göring urged Hitler to conciliate with capitalists and reactionaries.[20] Other prominent conservative Nazis included Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.[21]

The radical Nazi Joseph Goebbels, hated capitalism, viewing it as having Jews at its core, and he stressed the need for the party to emphasise both a proletarian and national character. Those views were shared by Otto Strasser, who later left the Nazi Party in the belief that Hitler had betrayed the party's socialist goals by allegedly endorsing capitalism.[20] Large segments of the Nazi Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary, and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and economic revolution upon the party gaining power in 1933.[22] Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program.[22] The leader of the SA, Ernst Röhm, pushed for a "second revolution" (the "first revolution" being the Nazis' seizure of power) that would entrench the party's official socialist program. Further, Röhm desired that the SA absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks under his leadership.[22]

Prior to becoming an antisemite and a Nazi, Hitler had lived a Bohemian lifestyle as a wandering watercolour artist in Austria and southern Germany, though he maintained elements of it later in life.[23] Hitler served in World War I. After the war, his battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to the historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other,[24] which he took as evidence that Hitler's political beliefs had not yet solidified.[24] In Mein Kampf, Hitler never mentioned any service with the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and stated that he became an antisemite in 1913 in Vienna. This statement has been disputed with the contention he was not an antisemite at that time.[25]

Hitler altered his political views in response to the Treaty of Versailles of June 1919, and it was then that he became an antisemitic, German nationalist.[25] As a Nazi, Hitler had expressed opposition to capitalism, having regarded capitalism as having Jewish origins. He accused capitalism of holding nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.[26]

Hitler took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the Nazi Party, in that he accepted private property and allowed capitalist private enterprises to exist as long as they adhered to the goals of the Nazi state. However, if a capitalist private enterprise resisted Nazi goals, he sought to destroy it.[20] Upon the Nazis achieving power, Röhm's SA began attacks against individuals deemed to be associated with conservative reaction, without Hitler's authorisation.[27] Hitler considered Röhm's independent actions to be violating and threatening his leadership, as well as jeopardising the regime by alienating the conservative President Paul von Hindenburg and the conservative-oriented German Army.[28] This resulted in Hitler purging Röhm and other radical members of the SA in what came to be known as the Night of the Long Knives.[28]

Although he opposed communist ideology, Hitler on numerous occasions publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism.[29] Hitler commended Stalin for seeking to purify the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of Jewish influences, noting Stalin's purging of Jewish communists such as Leon Trotsky, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and Karl Radek.[30] While Hitler always intended to bring Germany into conflict against the Soviet Union to gain Lebensraum (living space), he supported a temporary strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to form a common anti-liberal front to crush liberal democracies, particularly France.[29]

and they are wrong.....hitter and the nazis were leftists, and believed in the supremacy of the state....

The international socialists have to lie about the nazis..otherwise all the worst mass murderers in history would be seen to be lefty statists.....

You are about as confused as a person can be wrt to history and politics. You seem to believe that modern American right wing politics OWNS all of right wing politics. That likely stems from the tendency of American right wing pundants towards social and historical revisionism. Or silly notion that there is no socialism in right wing politics. Nazism sprung from European fascism, which is utterly right wing in nature.

Fascism, nazism, communism are all types of left wing socialism......Mussolini was a communist before he decided he wanted his own brand.....the only differences are cosmetic, and on how effective the particular socialist leader was at taking control of the means of production......

A Little Secret About the Nazis They were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today

But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.

 

[orogenicman]

I wonder then why every self described Nazi out there would curb stomp you for calling them a leftist? How do explain the disconnect when current Nazis are rightists and the left uniformly hates their racist skinhead guts?

Ask current national socialists what they think of limited government, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution....socialism of the German model of the 1930s-40s was not small, limited government...so it was left wing....not right wing.....

Wrong:

Nazism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics.[8] Far-right themes in Nazism include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate over other people and purge society of supposed inferior elements.[9] Adolf Hitler and other proponents officially portrayed Nazism as being neither left- nor right-wing, but syncretic.[10][11] Hitler in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany, saying:

Today our left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors [...] But the politicians of the Right deserve exactly the same reproach. It was through their miserable cowardice that those ruffians of Jews who came into power in 1918 were able to rob the nation of its arms.[12]

Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[13]

The Nazis were strongly influenced by the post–World War I far-right in Germany, which held common beliefs such as anti-Marxism, anti-liberalism, and antisemitism, along with nationalism, contempt towards the Treaty of Versailles, and condemnation of the Weimar Republic for signing the armistice in November 1918 that later led to their signing of the Treaty of Versailles.[14] A major inspiration for the Nazis were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organisations that engaged in political violence after World War I.[14] Initially, the post-World War I German far right was dominated by monarchists, but the younger generation, who were associated with Völkisch nationalism, were more radical and did not express any emphasis on the restoration of the German monarchy.[15] This younger generation desired to dismantle the Weimar Republic and create a new radical and strong state based upon a martial ruling ethic that could revive the "Spirit of 1914" that was associated with German national unity (Volksgemeinschaft).[15]

The Nazis, the far-right monarchist, reactionary German National People's Party (DNVP), and others, such as monarchist officers of the German Army and several prominent industrialists, formed an alliance in opposition to the Weimar Republic on 11 October 1931 in Bad Harzburg; officially known as the "National Front", but commonly referred to as the Harzburg Front.[16] The Nazis stated the alliance was purely tactical and there remained substantial differences with the DNVP. The Nazis described the DNVP as a bourgeois party and called themselves an anti-bourgeois party.[16] After the elections in 1932, the alliance broke after the DNVP lost many of its seats in the Reichstag. The Nazis denounced them as "an insignificant heap of reactionaries".[17] The DNVP responded by denouncing the Nazis for their socialism, their street violence, and the "economic experiments" that would take place if the Nazis rose to power.[18]

Kaiser Wilhelm II, who was pressured to abdicate the throne and flee into exile amidst an attempted communist revolution in Germany, initially supported the Nazi Party. His four sons, including Prince Eitel Friedrich and Prince Oskar, became members of the Nazi Party, in hopes that in exchange for their support, the Nazis would permit the restoration of the monarchy.[19]

There were factions in the Nazi Party, both conservative and radical.[20] The conservative Nazi Hermann Göring urged Hitler to conciliate with capitalists and reactionaries.[20] Other prominent conservative Nazis included Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.[21]

The radical Nazi Joseph Goebbels, hated capitalism, viewing it as having Jews at its core, and he stressed the need for the party to emphasise both a proletarian and national character. Those views were shared by Otto Strasser, who later left the Nazi Party in the belief that Hitler had betrayed the party's socialist goals by allegedly endorsing capitalism.[20] Large segments of the Nazi Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary, and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and economic revolution upon the party gaining power in 1933.[22] Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program.[22] The leader of the SA, Ernst Röhm, pushed for a "second revolution" (the "first revolution" being the Nazis' seizure of power) that would entrench the party's official socialist program. Further, Röhm desired that the SA absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks under his leadership.[22]

Prior to becoming an antisemite and a Nazi, Hitler had lived a Bohemian lifestyle as a wandering watercolour artist in Austria and southern Germany, though he maintained elements of it later in life.[23] Hitler served in World War I. After the war, his battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to the historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other,[24] which he took as evidence that Hitler's political beliefs had not yet solidified.[24] In Mein Kampf, Hitler never mentioned any service with the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and stated that he became an antisemite in 1913 in Vienna. This statement has been disputed with the contention he was not an antisemite at that time.[25]

Hitler altered his political views in response to the Treaty of Versailles of June 1919, and it was then that he became an antisemitic, German nationalist.[25] As a Nazi, Hitler had expressed opposition to capitalism, having regarded capitalism as having Jewish origins. He accused capitalism of holding nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.[26]

Hitler took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the Nazi Party, in that he accepted private property and allowed capitalist private enterprises to exist as long as they adhered to the goals of the Nazi state. However, if a capitalist private enterprise resisted Nazi goals, he sought to destroy it.[20] Upon the Nazis achieving power, Röhm's SA began attacks against individuals deemed to be associated with conservative reaction, without Hitler's authorisation.[27] Hitler considered Röhm's independent actions to be violating and threatening his leadership, as well as jeopardising the regime by alienating the conservative President Paul von Hindenburg and the conservative-oriented German Army.[28] This resulted in Hitler purging Röhm and other radical members of the SA in what came to be known as the Night of the Long Knives.[28]

Although he opposed communist ideology, Hitler on numerous occasions publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism.[29] Hitler commended Stalin for seeking to purify the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of Jewish influences, noting Stalin's purging of Jewish communists such as Leon Trotsky, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and Karl Radek.[30] While Hitler always intended to bring Germany into conflict against the Soviet Union to gain Lebensraum (living space), he supported a temporary strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to form a common anti-liberal front to crush liberal democracies, particularly France.[29]

and they are wrong.....hitter and the nazis were leftists, and believed in the supremacy of the state....

The international socialists have to lie about the nazis..otherwise all the worst mass murderers in history would be seen to be lefty statists.....

You are about as confused as a person can be wrt to history and politics. You seem to believe that modern American right wing politics OWNS all of right wing politics. That likely stems from the tendency of American right wing pundants towards social and historical revisionism. Or silly notion that there is no socialism in right wing politics. Nazism sprung from European fascism, which is utterly right wing in nature.

Fascism, nazism, communism are all types of left wing socialism......Mussolini was a communist before he decided he wanted his own brand.....the only differences are cosmetic, and on how effective the particular socialist leader was at taking control of the means of production......

A Little Secret About the Nazis They were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today

As I said, "That likely stems from the tendency of American right wing pundants towards social and historical revisionism". Thanks for proving my point.

 

[2aguy]

Ask current national socialists what they think of limited government, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution....socialism of the German model of the 1930s-40s was not small, limited government...so it was left wing....not right wing.....

Wrong:

Nazism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

The majority of scholars identify Nazism in practice as a form of far-right politics.[8] Far-right themes in Nazism include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate over other people and purge society of supposed inferior elements.[9] Adolf Hitler and other proponents officially portrayed Nazism as being neither left- nor right-wing, but syncretic.[10][11] Hitler in Mein Kampf directly attacked both left-wing and right-wing politics in Germany, saying:

Today our left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors [...] But the politicians of the Right deserve exactly the same reproach. It was through their miserable cowardice that those ruffians of Jews who came into power in 1918 were able to rob the nation of its arms.[12]

Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[13]

The Nazis were strongly influenced by the post–World War I far-right in Germany, which held common beliefs such as anti-Marxism, anti-liberalism, and antisemitism, along with nationalism, contempt towards the Treaty of Versailles, and condemnation of the Weimar Republic for signing the armistice in November 1918 that later led to their signing of the Treaty of Versailles.[14] A major inspiration for the Nazis were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organisations that engaged in political violence after World War I.[14] Initially, the post-World War I German far right was dominated by monarchists, but the younger generation, who were associated with Völkisch nationalism, were more radical and did not express any emphasis on the restoration of the German monarchy.[15] This younger generation desired to dismantle the Weimar Republic and create a new radical and strong state based upon a martial ruling ethic that could revive the "Spirit of 1914" that was associated with German national unity (Volksgemeinschaft).[15]

The Nazis, the far-right monarchist, reactionary German National People's Party (DNVP), and others, such as monarchist officers of the German Army and several prominent industrialists, formed an alliance in opposition to the Weimar Republic on 11 October 1931 in Bad Harzburg; officially known as the "National Front", but commonly referred to as the Harzburg Front.[16] The Nazis stated the alliance was purely tactical and there remained substantial differences with the DNVP. The Nazis described the DNVP as a bourgeois party and called themselves an anti-bourgeois party.[16] After the elections in 1932, the alliance broke after the DNVP lost many of its seats in the Reichstag. The Nazis denounced them as "an insignificant heap of reactionaries".[17] The DNVP responded by denouncing the Nazis for their socialism, their street violence, and the "economic experiments" that would take place if the Nazis rose to power.[18]

Kaiser Wilhelm II, who was pressured to abdicate the throne and flee into exile amidst an attempted communist revolution in Germany, initially supported the Nazi Party. His four sons, including Prince Eitel Friedrich and Prince Oskar, became members of the Nazi Party, in hopes that in exchange for their support, the Nazis would permit the restoration of the monarchy.[19]

There were factions in the Nazi Party, both conservative and radical.[20] The conservative Nazi Hermann Göring urged Hitler to conciliate with capitalists and reactionaries.[20] Other prominent conservative Nazis included Heinrich Himmler and Reinhard Heydrich.[21]

The radical Nazi Joseph Goebbels, hated capitalism, viewing it as having Jews at its core, and he stressed the need for the party to emphasise both a proletarian and national character. Those views were shared by Otto Strasser, who later left the Nazi Party in the belief that Hitler had betrayed the party's socialist goals by allegedly endorsing capitalism.[20] Large segments of the Nazi Party staunchly supported its official socialist, revolutionary, and anti-capitalist positions and expected both a social and economic revolution upon the party gaining power in 1933.[22] Many of the million members of the Sturmabteilung (SA) were committed to the party's official socialist program.[22] The leader of the SA, Ernst Röhm, pushed for a "second revolution" (the "first revolution" being the Nazis' seizure of power) that would entrench the party's official socialist program. Further, Röhm desired that the SA absorb the much smaller German Army into its ranks under his leadership.[22]

Prior to becoming an antisemite and a Nazi, Hitler had lived a Bohemian lifestyle as a wandering watercolour artist in Austria and southern Germany, though he maintained elements of it later in life.[23] Hitler served in World War I. After the war, his battalion was absorbed by the Bavarian Soviet Republic from 1918 to 1919, where he was elected Deputy Battalion Representative. According to the historian Thomas Weber, Hitler attended the funeral of communist Kurt Eisner (a German Jew), wearing a black mourning armband on one arm and a red communist armband on the other,[24] which he took as evidence that Hitler's political beliefs had not yet solidified.[24] In Mein Kampf, Hitler never mentioned any service with the Bavarian Soviet Republic, and stated that he became an antisemite in 1913 in Vienna. This statement has been disputed with the contention he was not an antisemite at that time.[25]

Hitler altered his political views in response to the Treaty of Versailles of June 1919, and it was then that he became an antisemitic, German nationalist.[25] As a Nazi, Hitler had expressed opposition to capitalism, having regarded capitalism as having Jewish origins. He accused capitalism of holding nations ransom in the interests of a parasitic cosmopolitan rentier class.[26]

Hitler took a pragmatic position between the conservative and radical factions of the Nazi Party, in that he accepted private property and allowed capitalist private enterprises to exist as long as they adhered to the goals of the Nazi state. However, if a capitalist private enterprise resisted Nazi goals, he sought to destroy it.[20] Upon the Nazis achieving power, Röhm's SA began attacks against individuals deemed to be associated with conservative reaction, without Hitler's authorisation.[27] Hitler considered Röhm's independent actions to be violating and threatening his leadership, as well as jeopardising the regime by alienating the conservative President Paul von Hindenburg and the conservative-oriented German Army.[28] This resulted in Hitler purging Röhm and other radical members of the SA in what came to be known as the Night of the Long Knives.[28]

Although he opposed communist ideology, Hitler on numerous occasions publicly praised the Soviet Union's leader Joseph Stalin and Stalinism.[29] Hitler commended Stalin for seeking to purify the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of Jewish influences, noting Stalin's purging of Jewish communists such as Leon Trotsky, Grigory Zinoviev, Lev Kamenev and Karl Radek.[30] While Hitler always intended to bring Germany into conflict against the Soviet Union to gain Lebensraum (living space), he supported a temporary strategic alliance between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union to form a common anti-liberal front to crush liberal democracies, particularly France.[29]

and they are wrong.....hitter and the nazis were leftists, and believed in the supremacy of the state....

The international socialists have to lie about the nazis..otherwise all the worst mass murderers in history would be seen to be lefty statists.....

You are about as confused as a person can be wrt to history and politics. You seem to believe that modern American right wing politics OWNS all of right wing politics. That likely stems from the tendency of American right wing pundants towards social and historical revisionism. Or silly notion that there is no socialism in right wing politics. Nazism sprung from European fascism, which is utterly right wing in nature.

Fascism, nazism, communism are all types of left wing socialism......Mussolini was a communist before he decided he wanted his own brand.....the only differences are cosmetic, and on how effective the particular socialist leader was at taking control of the means of production......

A Little Secret About the Nazis They were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today

As I said, "That likely stems from the tendency of American right wing pundants towards social and historical revisionism". Thanks for proving my point.

There is no revisionism...the left lies about the nazis because the nazis distract people from the mass murder of the international socialists....the communists murdered more people, in more countries than the national socialists...and yet you still have assholes walking around in che t-shirts and praising mao.........

 

[2aguy]

And again....nazis were socialists...

Nazis Still Socialists National Review Online

So when Nazi ideologist Gregor Strasser proclaimed:

We are socialists. We are enemies, deadly enemies, of today’s capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak, its unfair wage system, its immoral way of judging the worth of human beings in terms of their wealth and their money, instead of their responsibility and their performance, and we are determined to destroy this system whatever happens!

. . . he was just saying that because, in Stanley’s mind, socialism was “fashionable.” Obviously there’s some truth to that. Socialism was popular. So was nationalism. That’s why nationalists embraced socialism and why socialists quickly embraced nationalism. It wasn’t a big leap for either because they’re basically the same thing! In purely economic terms, nationalization and socialization are nothing more than synonyms (socialized medicine = nationalized health care).

 

[2aguy]

This is a good piece on the topic of the left wing nazis....

HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST

The context of Nazism

"True, it is a fixed idea with the French that the Rhine is their property, but to this arrogant demand the only reply worthy of the German nation is Arndt's: "Give back Alsace and Lorraine". For I am of the opinion, perhaps in contrast to many whose standpoint I share in other respects, that the reconquest of the German-speaking left bank of the Rhine is a matter of national honour, and that the Germanisation of a disloyal Holland and of Belgium is a political necessity for us. Shall we let the German nationality be completely suppressed in these countries, while the Slavs are rising ever more powerfully in the East?"


Have a look at the quote immediately above and say who wrote it. It is a typical Hitler rant, is it not? Give it to 100 people who know Hitler's speeches and 100 would identify it as something said by Adolf. The fierce German nationalism and territorial ambition is unmistakeable. And if there is any doubt, have a look at another quote from the same author:

This is our calling, that we shall become the templars of this Grail, gird the sword round our loins for its sake and stake our lives joyfully in the last, holy war which will be followed by the thousand-year reign of freedom.

That settles it, doesn't it? Who does not know of Hitler's glorification of military sacrifice and his aim to establish a "thousand-year Reich"?

But neither quote is in fact from Hitler. Both quotes were written by Friedrich Engels, Karl Marx's co-author (See hereand here). So let that be an introduction to the idea that Hitler not only called himself a socialist but that he WAS in fact a socialist by the standards of his day. Ideas that are now condemned as Rightist were in Hitler's day perfectly normal ideas among Leftists. And if Friedrich Engels was not a Leftist, I do not know who would be.

But the most spectacular aspect of Nazism was surely its antisemitism. And that had a grounding in Marx himself.

The following passage is from Marx but it could just as well have been from Hitler:

"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew -- not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. Very well then! Emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical, real Jewry, would be the self-emancipation of our time.... We recognize in Jewry, therefore, a general present-time-oriented anti-social element, an element which through historical development -- to which in this harmful respect the Jews have zealously contributed -- has been brought to its present high level, at which it must necessarily dissolve itself. In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Jewry".

Note that Marx wanted to "emancipate" (free) mankind from Jewry ("Judentum" in Marx's original German), just as Hitler did and that the title of Marx's essay in German was "Zur Judenfrage", which -- while not necessarily derogatory in itself -- is nonetheless exactly the same expression ("Jewish question") that Hitler used in his famous phrase "Endloesung der Judenfrage" ("Final solution of the Jewish question").

And when Marx speaks of the end of Jewry by saying that Jewish identity must necessarily "dissolve" itself, the word he uses in German is "aufloesen", which is a close relative of Hitler's word "Endloesung" ("final solution").

So all the most condemned features of Nazism can be traced back to Marx and Engels, right down to the language used.

The thinking of Hitler, Marx and Engels differed mainly in emphasis rather than in content. All three were second-rate German intellectuals of their times. Anybody who doubts that practically all Hitler's ideas were also to be found in Marx & Engels should spend a little time reading the quotations from Marx & Engels archived here.

Another point:"Everything must be different!" or "Alles muss anders sein!" was a slogan of the Nazi Party. It is also the heart's desire of every Leftist since Karl Marx. Nazism was a deeply revolutionary creed, a fact that is always denied by the Left; but it's true. Hitler and his criminal gang hated the rich, the capitalists, the Jews, the Christian Churches, and "the System".

 

[occupied]

Social programs did not exist in those days but it is dumb to think he would be against anything that mitigated poverty.

Jesus believed in personal responsibility, so yes, he would. And particularly because government doesn't "mitigate" poverty, it institutionalizes it

Whatever lets you sleep at night. Jesus was not fond of rationalizations either. He knows you would rather keep your taxes for your own personal enrichment than feed hungry people.

You are making shit up, and dude, you are terrible at making shit up. It sounds like the result of an Obama, Reid, Pelosi circle jerk.

Christianity, which you know nothing about, is not about keeping people technically alive. It's not charity either when you give other people's money or when their money is removed by force. There is zero in the bible to support that Jesus would advocate that

I had an incredibly strict southern baptist upbringing, I know everything I need to know about christian hypocrisy and how at odds it is with how Jesus apparently wanted us to live. Jesus did not give a damn about money, status, earthly power or any of the shit RW Christians seem to worship these days. He told us to go the extra mile to help out the less fortunate, until you "Christians" start to actually do that we must have social programs to feed people. He said "What you do to the least of you, you do to me". More people are dumping Christianity every day because of how mean and angry it has become, I did it years ago.

I was baptized a Southern Baptist also. Here's an easy question for you. Give me one example where Jesus gave credit to anyone for anything that they didn't personally do.

You know, like government charity.

Go...

I am talking to you about what I believe. I do not believe Jesus would make a distinction. I do not think he would be upset if a government reflected his values of feeding the hungry or healing the sick. I think he would frown on being so attached to your money that people went hungry. We can project our beliefs on Jesus all day, I suppose, but even in his day taxes were an ever present thing and his opinion was that you should just pay them and get on with trying to live in grace and humility. What's all the money in the world if it costs your soul?

 

[2aguy]

Jesus believed in personal responsibility, so yes, he would. And particularly because government doesn't "mitigate" poverty, it institutionalizes it

Whatever lets you sleep at night. Jesus was not fond of rationalizations either. He knows you would rather keep your taxes for your own personal enrichment than feed hungry people.

You are making shit up, and dude, you are terrible at making shit up. It sounds like the result of an Obama, Reid, Pelosi circle jerk.

Christianity, which you know nothing about, is not about keeping people technically alive. It's not charity either when you give other people's money or when their money is removed by force. There is zero in the bible to support that Jesus would advocate that

I had an incredibly strict southern baptist upbringing, I know everything I need to know about christian hypocrisy and how at odds it is with how Jesus apparently wanted us to live. Jesus did not give a damn about money, status, earthly power or any of the shit RW Christians seem to worship these days. He told us to go the extra mile to help out the less fortunate, until you "Christians" start to actually do that we must have social programs to feed people. He said "What you do to the least of you, you do to me". More people are dumping Christianity every day because of how mean and angry it has become, I did it years ago.

I was baptized a Southern Baptist also. Here's an easy question for you. Give me one example where Jesus gave credit to anyone for anything that they didn't personally do.

You know, like government charity.

Go...

I am talking to you about what I believe. I do not believe Jesus would make a distinction. I do not think he would be upset if a government reflected his values of feeding the hungry or healing the sick. I think he would frown on being so attached to your money that people went hungry. We can project our beliefs on Jesus all day, I suppose, but even in his day taxes were an ever present thing and his opinion was that you should just pay them and get on with trying to live in grace and humility. What's all the money in the world if it costs your soul?

Considering that conservatives give more time and money to charity while the left gives money to the goverment to get wasted, lost and stolen....who actually tries to help the poor.........? And stealing is against God's laws.....and taking from someone to give to another, with the threat of violence if they don't surrender the money......and then take credit for it at the same time.....not what God had in mind.......