Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

[Scamp]

Abraham Lincoln would be a Democratic pol today.

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Lincoln preserved the Union and turned a bunch of united states into the UNITED STATES

Indeed Lincoln saved the Union. It even cost him his life.

 

[rightwinger]

By FDR, most blacks were Democrats

Way before the Dems embraced Civil Rights. Interesting. Almost like it has more to do with government social spending than civil rights.

When FDR created the Fair Employment Practice Committee to address the rampant discrimination against blacks in employment -- why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

When FDR signed the GI Bill...why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

Just pointing out that the timing does not match the normal lib narrative.


Note my completely lack of maligning blacks, you raving loon.

Cool...now tell me what conservatives were there marching along side of King down in Selma

Conservatives are smart, we don't march and throw tantrums, we actually get shit done, like laws and stuff
Lots of conservatives supported the Civil Rights laws in the 40s and 50s, even the 64 bill, most were REPUBLICANS

Fact Check: ‘More Republicans Voted for the Civil Rights Act as a Percentage Than Democrats Did’

IT has been this way, in fact the republicans never voted for jim crow laws. The whole premise of you democrats is the big switch lie...which I have destroyed in these forums.....because it's a HUGE lie.

Can you name a Conservative who marched with Civil Rights protesters?

This was a North/South issue not a partisan political issue

 

[rightwinger]

Abraham Lincoln would be a Democratic pol today.

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Lincoln preserved the Union and turned a bunch of united states into the UNITED STATES

Indeed Lincoln saved the Union. It even cost him his life.

It sure did

 

[buckeye45_73]

Abraham Lincoln would be a Democratic pol today.

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Way before the Dems embraced Civil Rights. Interesting. Almost like it has more to do with government social spending than civil rights.

When FDR created the Fair Employment Practice Committee to address the rampant discrimination against blacks in employment -- why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

When FDR signed the GI Bill...why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

Just pointing out that the timing does not match the normal lib narrative.


Note my completely lack of maligning blacks, you raving loon.

Cool...now tell me what conservatives were there marching along side of King down in Selma

Conservatives are smart, we don't march and throw tantrums, we actually get shit done, like laws and stuff
Lots of conservatives supported the Civil Rights laws in the 40s and 50s, even the 64 bill, most were REPUBLICANS

Fact Check: ‘More Republicans Voted for the Civil Rights Act as a Percentage Than Democrats Did’

IT has been this way, in fact the republicans never voted for jim crow laws. The whole premise of you democrats is the big switch lie...which I have destroyed in these forums.....because it's a HUGE lie.

Can you name a Conservative who marched with Civil Rights protesters?

This was a North/South issue not a partisan political issue

No you lie, it was a partisan issue. Republicans had tons of conservatives, in fact more than the democrats pre civil rights and didn't pass jim crow laws or oppose civil rights legislation until some opposed it in 64, due to the power of the feds, not racial issues...….so we can go down this road, but I'll whip your ass on it. it was not ideological, it WAS partisan. I didn't hear about FDR stopping them, did you?

 

[Scamp]

Abraham Lincoln would be a Democratic pol today.

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

So are you are OK with the fact that the Union also had slavery during the Civil War? And since you mentioned Grant, did you even know that Grant was a previous slave owner?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Abraham Lincoln would be a Democratic pol today.

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

So are you are OK with the fact that the Union also had slavery during the Civil War? And since you mentioned Grant, did you even know that Grant was a previous slave owner?

No I'm not ok with it, yeah I'm aware of the border states, the difference is I don't judge based on history. Lincoln had to do what he had to do. Like I said, he wasn't trying to force the south to give it up, but then the south did a stupid thing and attacked him, and justice was done. As for Grant, he did have one, and gave him freedom prior to the civil war, he did the right thing.

 

[Scamp]

Abraham Lincoln would be a Democratic pol today.

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

So are you are OK with the fact that the Union also had slavery during the Civil War? And since you mentioned Grant, did you even know that Grant was a previous slave owner?

No I'm not ok with it, yeah I'm aware of the border states, the difference is I don't judge based on history. Lincoln had to do what he had to do. Like I said, he wasn't trying to force the south to give it up, but then the south did a stupid thing and attacked him, and justice was done. As for Grant, he did have one, and gave him freedom prior to the civil war, he did the right thing.

Why didn't the US free their slaves before invading the South? And NJ was not a border state, they still had slavery after the war was over. Although not many.

 

[buckeye45_73]

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

So are you are OK with the fact that the Union also had slavery during the Civil War? And since you mentioned Grant, did you even know that Grant was a previous slave owner?

No I'm not ok with it, yeah I'm aware of the border states, the difference is I don't judge based on history. Lincoln had to do what he had to do. Like I said, he wasn't trying to force the south to give it up, but then the south did a stupid thing and attacked him, and justice was done. As for Grant, he did have one, and gave him freedom prior to the civil war, he did the right thing.

Why didn't the US free their slaves before invading the South? And NJ was not a border state, they still had slavery after the war was over. Although not many.

What does that have to do with the question. The short answer is the southern economy depended on it.....Why does Apple not just bring jobs back to the US for decent wages???
Slav
ery was awful, but many did it before the US and some are still doing it.....why always focus on the US?


Slavery in Africa - Wikipedia

Although outlawed in all countries today, slavery is practiced in secret in many parts of the world.[101] There are an estimated 30 million victims of slavery worldwide

 

[Faun]

When FDR created the Fair Employment Practice Committee to address the rampant discrimination against blacks in employment -- why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

When FDR signed the GI Bill...why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

Just pointing out that the timing does not match the normal lib narrative.


Note my completely lack of maligning blacks, you raving loon.

Cool...now tell me what conservatives were there marching along side of King down in Selma

Conservatives are smart, we don't march and throw tantrums, we actually get shit done, like laws and stuff
Lots of conservatives supported the Civil Rights laws in the 40s and 50s, even the 64 bill, most were REPUBLICANS

Fact Check: ‘More Republicans Voted for the Civil Rights Act as a Percentage Than Democrats Did’

IT has been this way, in fact the republicans never voted for jim crow laws. The whole premise of you democrats is the big switch lie...which I have destroyed in these forums.....because it's a HUGE lie.

Can you name a Conservative who marched with Civil Rights protesters?

This was a North/South issue not a partisan political issue

No you lie, it was a partisan issue. Republicans had tons of conservatives, in fact more than the democrats pre civil rights and didn't pass jim crow laws or oppose civil rights legislation until some opposed it in 64, due to the power of the feds, not racial issues...….so we can go down this road, but I'll whip your ass on it. it was not ideological, it WAS partisan. I didn't hear about FDR stopping them, did you?

Imbecile. rightwinger is absolutely right, it was a north/south issue, not a political party issue....

 

[basquebromance]

MLK melts my heart every time i hear him talk!

 

[rightwinger]

Abraham Lincoln would be a Democratic pol today.

No not really, I don't think he's go for buttsex all the time, 75 genders, massive federal government and being a pussy on the world stage....nah...

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

The state does not have a right to keep its citizens in bondage

It is why we need a strong Federal Government

 

[rightwinger]

There are reports of Lincoln being gay. And he sent 300,000 soldiers to their deaths fighting for imperial subjugation over states rights.

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

So are you are OK with the fact that the Union also had slavery during the Civil War? And since you mentioned Grant, did you even know that Grant was a previous slave owner?

No I'm not ok with it, yeah I'm aware of the border states, the difference is I don't judge based on history. Lincoln had to do what he had to do. Like I said, he wasn't trying to force the south to give it up, but then the south did a stupid thing and attacked him, and justice was done. As for Grant, he did have one, and gave him freedom prior to the civil war, he did the right thing.

Why didn't the US free their slaves before invading the South? And NJ was not a border state, they still had slavery after the war was over. Although not many.

What does that have to do with the question. The short answer is the southern economy depended on it.....Why does Apple not just bring jobs back to the US for decent wages???
Slav
ery was awful, but many did it before the US and some are still doing it.....why always focus on the US?


Slavery in Africa - Wikipedia

Although outlawed in all countries today, slavery is practiced in secret in many parts of the world.[101] There are an estimated 30 million victims of slavery worldwide

The cotton economy was the strongest in the world. Plantation owners were the equivalent of billionaires
They could have shared some of that wealth with the people who created it

Instead, they were greedy

 

[rightwinger]

When FDR created the Fair Employment Practice Committee to address the rampant discrimination against blacks in employment -- why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

When FDR signed the GI Bill...why are blacks maligned for supporting that??

Just pointing out that the timing does not match the normal lib narrative.


Note my completely lack of maligning blacks, you raving loon.

Cool...now tell me what conservatives were there marching along side of King down in Selma

Conservatives are smart, we don't march and throw tantrums, we actually get shit done, like laws and stuff
Lots of conservatives supported the Civil Rights laws in the 40s and 50s, even the 64 bill, most were REPUBLICANS

Fact Check: ‘More Republicans Voted for the Civil Rights Act as a Percentage Than Democrats Did’

IT has been this way, in fact the republicans never voted for jim crow laws. The whole premise of you democrats is the big switch lie...which I have destroyed in these forums.....because it's a HUGE lie.

Can you name a Conservative who marched with Civil Rights protesters?

This was a North/South issue not a partisan political issue

No you lie, it was a partisan issue. Republicans had tons of conservatives, in fact more than the democrats pre civil rights and didn't pass jim crow laws or oppose civil rights legislation until some opposed it in 64, due to the power of the feds, not racial issues...….so we can go down this road, but I'll whip your ass on it. it was not ideological, it WAS partisan. I didn't hear about FDR stopping them, did you?

Once again you point out the obvious
It was a North/South issue

I am perfectly willing to school you on this

 

[Redfish]

Sadly, we have another Civil Rights Patriot in poor health

John Lewis

Dude, you're just trolling now.
It is an insult to MLK and all TRUE civil rights fighters to filth up this thread with this piece of garbage.
It wouldn't be hard to quote at least 50 lines from MLK speeches/writings that is categorically the opposite of this crook

If MLK were alive today...he would know John Lewis...he wouldn't know you and he definitely wouldn't support the policies you CURRENTLY stand for..so fuk what you whining about

If MLK was alive today he would still be a republican.

If Kennedy and Truman were alive today they would be republicans.

Laughable since none of them were or would have considered being a republican.

MLK was a republican. Kennedy and Truman did not think or believe what the dems of today think and believe. Would a dem of today have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war? Would any dem of today say "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"? No, they would not.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Sadly, we have another Civil Rights Patriot in poor health

John Lewis

Dude, you're just trolling now.
It is an insult to MLK and all TRUE civil rights fighters to filth up this thread with this piece of garbage.
It wouldn't be hard to quote at least 50 lines from MLK speeches/writings that is categorically the opposite of this crook

If MLK were alive today...he would know John Lewis...he wouldn't know you and he definitely wouldn't support the policies you CURRENTLY stand for..so fuk what you whining about

If MLK was alive today he would still be a republican.

If Kennedy and Truman were alive today they would be republicans.

Laughable since none of them were or would have considered being a republican.

MLK was a republican. Kennedy and Truman did not think or believe what the dems of today think and believe. Would a dem of today have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war? Would any dem of today say "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"? No, they would not.

No, he wasn't a republican.....

Can you tell me what republicans during the times of MLK's life were advocating for democratic socialism??

I'll wait....

 

[Redfish]

Uh he wasn't gay, it's more propaganda. And he did do that, and while I love states rights, it's not right or just to allow slavery. So Lincoln was going to tolerate it, but the south attacked him, ooops…...he then went through generals until he found the great Ulysses S Grant, who opened a can on the Confederacy. So while I agree with states rights, the feds have some jurisdiction, one is immigration (its one of the few roles the feds should actually have) and another is protecting innocent life, which means no abortion or slavery.

So are you are OK with the fact that the Union also had slavery during the Civil War? And since you mentioned Grant, did you even know that Grant was a previous slave owner?

No I'm not ok with it, yeah I'm aware of the border states, the difference is I don't judge based on history. Lincoln had to do what he had to do. Like I said, he wasn't trying to force the south to give it up, but then the south did a stupid thing and attacked him, and justice was done. As for Grant, he did have one, and gave him freedom prior to the civil war, he did the right thing.

Why didn't the US free their slaves before invading the South? And NJ was not a border state, they still had slavery after the war was over. Although not many.

What does that have to do with the question. The short answer is the southern economy depended on it.....Why does Apple not just bring jobs back to the US for decent wages???
Slav
ery was awful, but many did it before the US and some are still doing it.....why always focus on the US?


Slavery in Africa - Wikipedia

Although outlawed in all countries today, slavery is practiced in secret in many parts of the world.[101] There are an estimated 30 million victims of slavery worldwide

The cotton economy was the strongest in the world. Plantation owners were the equivalent of billionaires
They could have shared some of that wealth with the people who created it

Instead, they were greedy

your knowledge of american history is no better than your knowledge of current politics.

It was certainly wrong, but by the standards of those times slavery was an accepted way of life (it still is in parts of africa and the mid east). Its always a mistake to judge the actions of people in the past using today's standards.

 

[Redfish]

Dude, you're just trolling now.
It is an insult to MLK and all TRUE civil rights fighters to filth up this thread with this piece of garbage.
It wouldn't be hard to quote at least 50 lines from MLK speeches/writings that is categorically the opposite of this crook

If MLK were alive today...he would know John Lewis...he wouldn't know you and he definitely wouldn't support the policies you CURRENTLY stand for..so fuk what you whining about

If MLK was alive today he would still be a republican.

If Kennedy and Truman were alive today they would be republicans.

Laughable since none of them were or would have considered being a republican.

MLK was a republican. Kennedy and Truman did not think or believe what the dems of today think and believe. Would a dem of today have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war? Would any dem of today say "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"? No, they would not.

No, he wasn't a republican.....

Can you tell me what republicans during the times of MLK's life were advocating for democratic socialism??

I'll wait....

actually he was. WTF is democratic socialism? its an oxymoron. socialism is never democratic. its dictatorial where a tiny group of super elites control every aspect of everyone else's life under threat of death. WTF do you think the people or Hong Kong are rioting about today? They don't want to give up their successful capitalism and come under the thumb or Chinese socialism. Geez dude, are you really that dumb?

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Sadly, we have another Civil Rights Patriot in poor health

John Lewis

Dude, you're just trolling now.
It is an insult to MLK and all TRUE civil rights fighters to filth up this thread with this piece of garbage.
It wouldn't be hard to quote at least 50 lines from MLK speeches/writings that is categorically the opposite of this crook

If MLK were alive today...he would know John Lewis...he wouldn't know you and he definitely wouldn't support the policies you CURRENTLY stand for..so fuk what you whining about

If MLK was alive today he would still be a republican.

If Kennedy and Truman were alive today they would be republicans.

Laughable since none of them were or would have considered being a republican.

MLK was a republican. Kennedy and Truman did not think or believe what the dems of today think and believe. Would a dem of today have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war? Would any dem of today say "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"? No, they would not.

and time after time, I have posted quote after quote from MLK.....every time I do, you trumpers can never tell me what about his quote says "I'm a republican" --- MLK was a very extensive writer and orator -- you would think he would just say "I'm a republican, I support low corporate taxes and capital gains..." -- especially when you consider the top marginal tax rate back then was over 70%


So I will ask again...what about this quote says "republican"

 

[Redfish]

Dude, you're just trolling now.
It is an insult to MLK and all TRUE civil rights fighters to filth up this thread with this piece of garbage.
It wouldn't be hard to quote at least 50 lines from MLK speeches/writings that is categorically the opposite of this crook

If MLK were alive today...he would know John Lewis...he wouldn't know you and he definitely wouldn't support the policies you CURRENTLY stand for..so fuk what you whining about

If MLK was alive today he would still be a republican.

If Kennedy and Truman were alive today they would be republicans.

Laughable since none of them were or would have considered being a republican.

MLK was a republican. Kennedy and Truman did not think or believe what the dems of today think and believe. Would a dem of today have dropped the bombs on Japan to end the war? Would any dem of today say "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"? No, they would not.

No, he wasn't a republican.....

Can you tell me what republicans during the times of MLK's life were advocating for democratic socialism??

I'll wait....

mlk was a registered republican - Bing