Ed Snowden is a traitor

Yes, i did give you links to the ruling. Your inability to comprehend these elementary documents isn't my problem. And I'm not going to enterain anymore of these repeater questions.

That you can not comprehend does not mean explanations weren't given, dullard.
 
Bush did the same.

Do you care, or is your anger dependent upon the letter behind the name?

Bush considered Snowden a traitor? :eek:

Leftist dogma, January 19, 2009 - Dissent is the highest form of patriotism

Leftist dogma, January 20, 2009 - Dissent is treason

Right.

Perception is shaped by one's ideology, no matter what side of the political spectrum one is on.

Obama is Bush minus the foreign invasions but more bombings.
 
1002331_477608188999347_2123898996_n.jpg
 
Right.

Perception is shaped by one's ideology, no matter what side of the political spectrum one is on.

Obama is Bush minus the foreign invasions but more bombings.

Regardless, Snowden did the American people a great service in exposing the depth of what Big Brother is up to.

Barack Ofuckme should be run out of town on a rail - as should Attorney Gangsta Holder.
 
Well I don't know what the term "regulating to the nth degree" means, so yes, it does if you'd like me to answer your question.




What part of the Commerce clause are you confused about?

The one that authorizes Congress to disctate to individual entrepreneurs:

Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat. 1, 195, 196.

In his concurring opinion in that case Mr. Justice Johnson observed that the grant to congress of the power to regulate commerce carried with it the whole subject, leaving nothing for the state to act upon, and that, 'if there was any one object riding over every other in the adoption of the constitution, it was to keep commercial intercourse among the states free from all invidious and partial restraints.' Id. 23


Well if you're confused about it why don't you read the majority opinion?

Listen dingle berry, the reason he CONCURRED is because he agreed with the decision made by the majority of the court, but stated different reasons .

.
 
The 4th amendment doesn't say anything about PRISM.

Are you actually going to try to argue that because the Constitution doesn't specifically name PRISM that it must therefore be ok?

Sorry, but the law doesn't have to name specifics in order for them to be illegal. PRISM unlawfully spies on Americans and unlawfully mines data to be used against you later.

Saying PRISM is legal because the Constitution doesn't mention it is like saying stabbing someone to death is legal because murder statutes don't specifically state using a knife to kill someone is against the law.
 

You'd know that if you read his interviews.


I don't really care what admitted criminals have to say.

That explains a lot. Here's a hint: if you're going to begin a thread on a subject, you should research enough about the subject so you have at least a little knowledge on it. That includes research, which in this case would be to familiarize yourself with what Snowden has actually done and actually said.

Otherwise, it is very difficult to facilitate discussion on the subject. The above comment for example. Snowden clearly states what kind of intel he came across and the reasons why he went to Booz in the first place. Had you done your research you would not have to ask "such as" and we could have a far more productive conversation on the matter.
 
Last edited:
Edward Snowden has become of the litmus tests of national division.

To the left he's a traitor. To Americans he's a hero.
 
Um, no. That lid was blown off in 2006. Snowden just informed us it was still going on after the torch was passed from Right to Left.

Oh bullshit.

You want to whack your little partisan pee-pee about BOOOOOOSHHH

You leftist fucknuts were whining that Bush was intercepting cell phone calls on the public airwaves that were flagged to terrorist countries.

That is a HUGE fucking way from what your little tin Messiah® is doing by monitoring ALL phones, cell and land line, as well as email and SMS.

The Bush justifications that the public airwaves dissipate an expectation of privacy has some merit, you can't expect privacy when chatting on a CB - and let's face it, a cell phone goes over the public airwaves, just like a CB. But your god is going WAY beyond the open airwaves and listening in on everything - as is the way of Big Brother.

See what happens when you try to educate people g5000.

Uncensored2008, educate yourself please:

Mark Klein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Edward Snowden has become of the litmus tests of national division.

To the left he's a traitor. To Americans he's a hero.

That's a fairly bad simplification of the situation. He's a hero for trying to remind people that the government is still spying on US citizens, even with a Democrat in the White House. He's a traitor for exchanging national secrets with China and Russia for safe residency in their countries.
 
Last edited:
Edward Snowden has become of the litmus tests of national division.

To the left he's a traitor. To Americans he's a hero.

That's a fairly bad simplification of the situation. He's a hero for trying to remind people that the government is still spying on US citizens, even with a Democrat in the White House. He's a traitor for exchanging national secrets with China and Russia for safe residency in their countries.

Is this more of that speculation on Snowden sharing things when nothing of the sort can be proven? it's a fun game of fiction, I'll say that. He probably gave information to al qaeda too. Just think of the imaginary story run we can create when we add that tid bit!
 
Edward Snowden has become of the litmus tests of national division.

To the left he's a traitor. To Americans he's a hero.

That's a fairly bad simplification of the situation. He's a hero for trying to remind people that the government is still spying on US citizens, even with a Democrat in the White House. He's a traitor for exchanging national secrets with China and Russia for safe residency in their countries.

You're right, its a complex situation.

The fact that he may have provided the public evidence of a crime is no excuse to remain in a not-friendly nation with reams of secret data that is NOT evidence of a crime but which could put U.S. lives in danger.


Chelsea Manning is a bigger man than Ed Snowden will ever be.
She will pay the consequences for her decision, Ed Snowden on the other hand wishes to escape the consequences. An important aspect of civil disobedience is that you must pay the consequences.
 
Last edited:
Edward Snowden has become of the litmus tests of national division.

To the left he's a traitor. To Americans he's a hero.

Really? So dblack is no longer a leftie?

Sorry but there are plenty of commie lefties on Snowden's side. I personally think its inconsistent of them to get so bent out of shape when the White House revealed a secret agents identity under Bush, and then be OK with Snowden running around in enemy air space with laptops full of god knows what damaging secrets. Its like they were only outraged over the Plame affair because Bush and/or Cheney were implicated, but otherwise have no regard for the safety and well being of the brave men and women who work as covert operatives.
 
Last edited:
Really? So dblack is no longer a leftie?


You use a LOT of drugs, and not all of them prescribed by your psychiatrist, doncha?

dblack is Laissez Faire - the polar opposite of the authoritarian left.

Sorry but there are plenty of commie lefties on Snowden's side. I personally think its inconsistent of them to get so bent out of shape when the White House revealed a secret agents identity under Bush, and then be OK with Snowden running around in enemy air space with laptops full of god knows what damaging secrets. Its like they were only outraged over the Plame affair because Bush and/or Cheney were implicated, but otherwise have no regard for the safety and well being of the brave men and women who work as covert operatives.

The Obamunists are outraged that Snowden would reveal anything which damages the object of their worship.

You attack Snowden because he spoke against your god, Obama. Since principle is not something you engage in, whether he is of service to the American people is irrelevant - he betrayed your lord, ergo you hate him and want him dead.

OH, and a HUGE difference between Snowden and Plame - Snowden released actual information, Plame was simply a party hack working on behalf of the democratic party. She did nothing for the American people, revealed nothing. Armitage revealed that a clerk was processing documents to defame the Bush administration. All partisan politics.
 
Last edited:

Forum List

Back
Top