Electoral College Breakdown

[WelfareQueen]

I can't wait to revive this thread after election day.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Tell you what Joe, lets make a bet. If Trump wins the election, you don’t post for a year from Election Day. If Biden wins, I won’t post for a year from Election Day.

Seems fair right?

Nope. We had a bunch of you right wingers promise that when Obama won in 2012, and not a fucking one of you got the fuck lost.

Easy, HR guy. Go review some resumes. Why are you swearing Let us wait for a VP pick and debates and then we can gauge the polls. LOL

 

[JoeB131]

That's against the rules.

Lots of shit is against the rules. Again...So what? Jared Kushner talking to foreign leaders about policies on WhatsApp is against the rules.

 

[JoeB131]

Why are you swearing Let us wait for a VP pick and debates and then we can gauge the polls. LOL

VP Picks and debates don't make any difference. They really don't. Bush picked Quayle, said stupid things during the debates, and he STILL won in 1988.

The only thing that will matter is the economy, and the economy is going to suck by November....

You all thought the Great Recession was bad, the "Great Lockdown" is going to be far worse.

 

[rightwinger]

Exactly correct. 40 states would have no say or voice in anything, a handful of states would have total control and the corrupt politicians in Washington would kiss their ass. California could borrow and spend like there's no tomorrow and just demand the other 40 states bail out their pie in the sky government pensions. WAIT FOR IT...that's not a theory California already tried to do just that right after Obama was elected in 2008. Kind of shocked but Obama told them to pound sand, good for him.

Uh, let's get real. The BIG States end up subsidizing the small states. How is this a good thing?

View attachment 325666

Now factor in military bases and Dem's in Dem run cities in red states fake news.

Federal Dollars are still Federal Dollars

Wrong, you idiots have tried to fly this false flag for decades its FAKE NEWS.

Hardly,
Federal money flows into red states

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

And in 2010 the largest swing in the history of the US went from Demoncraps to Republicans. Nan from San Fransicko is going to be the one that swings it all Republican again. Thanks Blinkie Pelosi and your never ending impeachment...

Actually, what got them in trouble in 2010 was that the economy didn't get better fast enough.

Midterms really don't indicate anything other than angry voters have more influence than happy ones in midterms.

The reality- in Midterms, only a few dozen races are really in play. The real problem in 2010 was WHO lost. Mostly, it was all those DINO's who got voted in 2006 and 2008 because people were mad about the Iraq War, but they really didn't stand for anything.

What got them in trouble, because your ability to remember things is very selective, is that Nan Fransicko, and Dirty Harry Reid behind closed doors and not one Republican support, went against the will of the people and created a broken healthcare system for you stupid liberals. When the brown turd Oblummer signed it into law, that was the downfall of the Demoncrap party until 2018 when liberal states started recounting losses over and over, finding unfilled ballots in the trunks of their cars, until they won.

ObamaCare architect: 'Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass

ObamaCare architect: 'Liberal Stupidity' of voters helped bill pass

Thanks Oblummer....

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why are you swearing Let us wait for a VP pick and debates and then we can gauge the polls. LOL

VP Picks and debates don't make any difference. They really don't. Bush picked Quayle, said stupid things during the debates, and he STILL won in 1988.

The only thing that will matter is the economy, and the economy is going to suck by November....

You all thought the Great Recession was bad, the "Great Lockdown" is going to be far worse.

Oblummer picked Good Ole Groper Joe Biden who said the brown turd was "clean and articulate" yet the turd still got elected. That was one "Magic Negro".

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Why are you swearing Let us wait for a VP pick and debates and then we can gauge the polls. LOL

VP Picks and debates don't make any difference. They really don't. Bush picked Quayle, said stupid things during the debates, and he STILL won in 1988.

The only thing that will matter is the economy, and the economy is going to suck by November....

You all thought the Great Recession was bad, the "Great Lockdown" is going to be far worse.

Yeah Palin really helped McCain. And debates didn’t help Trump win the nomination and the presidency. You are the most dishonest person on this board and a tattle tale. Still zero from the mods, who see you as a joke. Debates and VP picks don’t matter...what an idiotic statement to make. Par for the course for you, Captain HR.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Because America is still a country that bizarrely uses an 18th century anachronism to pick presidents, we have to look at the state by state races.

For sake of this argument, let's assume Biden will get all the states Hillary won for 232 Electoral votes. Let's also assume for the argument that no matter how awful the economy gets, Trump will still 19 safe states, for a total of 123.

That leaves us with the following states in play - WI, MI, PA, NC, AZ, FL, TX, IA, OH, and GA. We can also put in there ME2 and NE2

So I will break them down into three groups.

The Ones Hillary Should have Won- WI, MI, PA - Because she didn't devote resources, because Comey sandbagged her, or because of Russian Shennanigans, Hillary lost these states. So how is Biden doing there.

Well, he's leading in all three.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Michigan: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Michigan: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

This is before the full effect of Trump's Recession are hit, and Biden's still ahead. When these folks realize that not only won't they get Daddy's factory job back, they probably won't get to keep that service job they have, it WILL be worse.

Those three will put him over 278, game over, man, game over.

But wait, there's more!

Next up we have the three Hillary tried really hard for - NC, AZ and FL

Biden is competitive in those, and has a firm lead in Arizona.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Florida: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Florida: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Arizona: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Arizona: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

If he wins those three, he will be up to 333, actually better than Obama did in 2008. Let's throw in Maine2 into that mix, and go with 334.

Then you have the Swinging for the Fences states. These are states the Democrats could potentially win. = IA, OH, TX and GA. Not as much polling data on these from RCP. But what little there is shows Biden could be competitive. Probably a lot more after the bottom completely falls out of the economy. That would bring him up to 413

he's withing 3 points in Texas

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Texas: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Texas: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

5 Points in Iowa

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Iowa: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Iowa: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

Actually LEADING Trump in Ohio.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Ohio: Trump vs. Biden

RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - Ohio: Trump vs. Biden

www.realclearpolitics.com

Trailing him by 8 points in Georgia, but again- this assumes the economy collapses completely and Trump won't be so popular anymore.





Next up, we have

/——/ Keep changing the rules until democRATS win.

 

[BluesLegend]

Exactly correct. 40 states would have no say or voice in anything, a handful of states would have total control and the corrupt politicians in Washington would kiss their ass. California could borrow and spend like there's no tomorrow and just demand the other 40 states bail out their pie in the sky government pensions. WAIT FOR IT...that's not a theory California already tried to do just that right after Obama was elected in 2008. Kind of shocked but Obama told them to pound sand, good for him.

Uh, let's get real. The BIG States end up subsidizing the small states. How is this a good thing?

View attachment 325666

Now factor in military bases and Dem's in Dem run cities in red states fake news.

Federal Dollars are still Federal Dollars

Wrong, you idiots have tried to fly this false flag for decades its FAKE NEWS.

Hardly,
Federal money flows into red states

Flows into red states...to...poor Dems living in red states. There I finished it for you.

 

[rightwinger]

Exactly correct. 40 states would have no say or voice in anything, a handful of states would have total control and the corrupt politicians in Washington would kiss their ass. California could borrow and spend like there's no tomorrow and just demand the other 40 states bail out their pie in the sky government pensions. WAIT FOR IT...that's not a theory California already tried to do just that right after Obama was elected in 2008. Kind of shocked but Obama told them to pound sand, good for him.

Uh, let's get real. The BIG States end up subsidizing the small states. How is this a good thing?

View attachment 325666

Now factor in military bases and Dem's in Dem run cities in red states fake news.

Federal Dollars are still Federal Dollars

Wrong, you idiots have tried to fly this false flag for decades its FAKE NEWS.

Hardly,
Federal money flows into red states

Flows into red states...to...poor Dems living in red states. There I finished it for you.

What a moron

Who do you think those poor dirt farmers vote for? Who does Appalachia vote for?

 

[BluesLegend]

Exactly correct. 40 states would have no say or voice in anything, a handful of states would have total control and the corrupt politicians in Washington would kiss their ass. California could borrow and spend like there's no tomorrow and just demand the other 40 states bail out their pie in the sky government pensions. WAIT FOR IT...that's not a theory California already tried to do just that right after Obama was elected in 2008. Kind of shocked but Obama told them to pound sand, good for him.

Uh, let's get real. The BIG States end up subsidizing the small states. How is this a good thing?

View attachment 325666

Now factor in military bases and Dem's in Dem run cities in red states fake news.

Federal Dollars are still Federal Dollars

Wrong, you idiots have tried to fly this false flag for decades its FAKE NEWS.

Hardly,
Federal money flows into red states

Flows into red states...to...poor Dems living in red states. There I finished it for you.

What a moron

Who do you think those poor dirt farmers vote for? Who does Appalachia vote for?

I triggered you with truth. Asshole liberal scum bash red states completely ignoring the millions of poor Democrats who live in those red states.

 

[rightwinger]

Exactly correct. 40 states would have no say or voice in anything, a handful of states would have total control and the corrupt politicians in Washington would kiss their ass. California could borrow and spend like there's no tomorrow and just demand the other 40 states bail out their pie in the sky government pensions. WAIT FOR IT...that's not a theory California already tried to do just that right after Obama was elected in 2008. Kind of shocked but Obama told them to pound sand, good for him.

Uh, let's get real. The BIG States end up subsidizing the small states. How is this a good thing?

View attachment 325666

Now factor in military bases and Dem's in Dem run cities in red states fake news.

Federal Dollars are still Federal Dollars

Wrong, you idiots have tried to fly this false flag for decades its FAKE NEWS.

Hardly,
Federal money flows into red states

Flows into red states...to...poor Dems living in red states. There I finished it for you.

What a moron

Who do you think those poor dirt farmers vote for? Who does Appalachia vote for?

I triggered you with truth. Asshole liberal scum bash red states completely ignoring the millions of poor Democrats who live in those red states.

They call them rural for a reason

Actually, it is the major cities in those states that pay the taxes that support the rest of the state.

 

[alang1216]

Because America is still a country that bizarrely uses an 18th century anachronism to pick presidents, we have to look at the state by state races.

Nitpick ... the Electoral College is a 13th Century anachronism ... it was used to elect the Holy Roman Emperor ...

And for the same reasons ... the system gave the German micro-states the same say in who the emperor is as the "biggies", Prussia and Bavaria ... the same here in the last Presidential election, Democrats can't focus on the Big States like California and New York ... they have to carry some Middle States as well ... Hillary went into Pennsylvania promising to shut down all the coal mines, she went into Michigan promising to make state tax-payers clean up Flint ... The Donald carried those EC votes ... the system worked as intended ...

As a liberal ... I think the 2016 election was correct ... We the People wanted the liberal initiatives scaled back ... so We the People are getting want we want ...

My main beef with the EC is that it is usually winner-take-all at the state level, I'd prefer to see the EC votes guided by the state's popular vote. I have no idea who would be the winners or losers but anything that empowers voters I'm for.

 

[rightwinger]

Because America is still a country that bizarrely uses an 18th century anachronism to pick presidents, we have to look at the state by state races.

Nitpick ... the Electoral College is a 13th Century anachronism ... it was used to elect the Holy Roman Emperor ...

And for the same reasons ... the system gave the German micro-states the same say in who the emperor is as the "biggies", Prussia and Bavaria ... the same here in the last Presidential election, Democrats can't focus on the Big States like California and New York ... they have to carry some Middle States as well ... Hillary went into Pennsylvania promising to shut down all the coal mines, she went into Michigan promising to make state tax-payers clean up Flint ... The Donald carried those EC votes ... the system worked as intended ...

As a liberal ... I think the 2016 election was correct ... We the People wanted the liberal initiatives scaled back ... so We the People are getting want we want ...

My main beef with the EC is that it is usually winner-take-all at the state level, I'd prefer to see the EC votes guided by the state's popular vote. I have no idea who would be the winners or losers but anything that empowers voters I'm for.

In that case, you essentially have a popular vote

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Because America is still a country that bizarrely uses an 18th century anachronism to pick presidents, we have to look at the state by state races.

Nitpick ... the Electoral College is a 13th Century anachronism ... it was used to elect the Holy Roman Emperor ...

And for the same reasons ... the system gave the German micro-states the same say in who the emperor is as the "biggies", Prussia and Bavaria ... the same here in the last Presidential election, Democrats can't focus on the Big States like California and New York ... they have to carry some Middle States as well ... Hillary went into Pennsylvania promising to shut down all the coal mines, she went into Michigan promising to make state tax-payers clean up Flint ... The Donald carried those EC votes ... the system worked as intended ...

As a liberal ... I think the 2016 election was correct ... We the People wanted the liberal initiatives scaled back ... so We the People are getting want we want ...

My main beef with the EC is that it is usually winner-take-all at the state level, I'd prefer to see the EC votes guided by the state's popular vote. I have no idea who would be the winners or losers but anything that empowers voters I'm for.

Yeah, sure, and when the Republican wins , then that will need to be abolished. You liberals believe that Democracy, where winner of popular vote takes all, only applies to the whole of the country, not the whole of each state. You guys hate the fly over country.

 

[rightwinger]

Because America is still a country that bizarrely uses an 18th century anachronism to pick presidents, we have to look at the state by state races.

Nitpick ... the Electoral College is a 13th Century anachronism ... it was used to elect the Holy Roman Emperor ...

And for the same reasons ... the system gave the German micro-states the same say in who the emperor is as the "biggies", Prussia and Bavaria ... the same here in the last Presidential election, Democrats can't focus on the Big States like California and New York ... they have to carry some Middle States as well ... Hillary went into Pennsylvania promising to shut down all the coal mines, she went into Michigan promising to make state tax-payers clean up Flint ... The Donald carried those EC votes ... the system worked as intended ...

As a liberal ... I think the 2016 election was correct ... We the People wanted the liberal initiatives scaled back ... so We the People are getting want we want ...

My main beef with the EC is that it is usually winner-take-all at the state level, I'd prefer to see the EC votes guided by the state's popular vote. I have no idea who would be the winners or losers but anything that empowers voters I'm for.

Yeah, sure, and when the Republican wins , then that will need to be abolished. You liberals believe that Democracy, where winner of popular vote takes all, only applies to the whole of the country, not the whole of each state. You guys hate the fly over country.

I don’t hate flyover states, but having visited most, I find them very dull

 

[alang1216]

Because America is still a country that bizarrely uses an 18th century anachronism to pick presidents, we have to look at the state by state races.

Nitpick ... the Electoral College is a 13th Century anachronism ... it was used to elect the Holy Roman Emperor ...

And for the same reasons ... the system gave the German micro-states the same say in who the emperor is as the "biggies", Prussia and Bavaria ... the same here in the last Presidential election, Democrats can't focus on the Big States like California and New York ... they have to carry some Middle States as well ... Hillary went into Pennsylvania promising to shut down all the coal mines, she went into Michigan promising to make state tax-payers clean up Flint ... The Donald carried those EC votes ... the system worked as intended ...

As a liberal ... I think the 2016 election was correct ... We the People wanted the liberal initiatives scaled back ... so We the People are getting want we want ...

My main beef with the EC is that it is usually winner-take-all at the state level, I'd prefer to see the EC votes guided by the state's popular vote. I have no idea who would be the winners or losers but anything that empowers voters I'm for.

In that case, you essentially have a popular vote

Except not every state has the same number of EC votes/pop.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

VP Picks and debates don't make any difference. They really don't. Bush picked Quayle, said stupid things during the debates, and he STILL won in 1988.

The only thing that will matter is the economy, and the economy is going to suck by November....

You all thought the Great Recession was bad, the "Great Lockdown" is going to be far worse.

The Democraps have created this crisis, desperately hoping that Trump and Republicans in general will be blamed for it, and that the Democraps will benefit from it in the election. They think, and are hoping, that the American people are stupid.

I don't think it's going to work. I think everyone can see which party it i that is responsible for turning an overhyped flue into an economic disaster, and which party is trying to control and mitigate this disaster. We see Nanthy “Marie Antoinette” Pelothi telling us all to eat cake, as she boasts of her life of idle luxury in her multi-million dollar mansion, eating $13/pint ice cream out of her $24,000 refrigerator, while we, the little people, wonder how long we're going to be able to obtain any food at all, or keep roofs over our heads.

I think this play is going to backfire against the Democraps. They should count themselves lucky if the worst that happens to them is merely being voted out of office en-masse.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's against the rules.

Lots of shit is against the rules. Again...So what? Jared Kushner talking to foreign leaders about policies on WhatsApp is against the rules.

Lots of shit is against the rules. Again...So what?

So that's why Comey announced he found Hillary's government emails on Weiner's porn computer.
It's a shame when Hillary breaks the rules and the voters find out.
Just awful.