Electric Mack trucks

[Concerned American]

They have been using electric motors for locomotives for decades. Strong and reliable.

The question as I understand it lies in their battery life. At least with large vehicles.

Both BYD and Tesla have already developed batteries that will last for a million miles. Battery life is no longer a problem. Battery cost is still a problem, however, one that will be solved by 2025 at the present rate of development.

I do not believe electric is the answer with the tech of today. Battery tech still has more drawbacks than pros, i.e. capacity, life, volatility, and disposal of hazardous waste. I believe the answer is in hydrogen fuel cells. It is abundant and non-polluting.

 

[EvMetro]

They have been using electric motors for locomotives for decades. Strong and reliable.

You should see the size of the Caterpillar diesel engines that power those electric motors. They require a semi with oversize load signs and escort vehicles when they are transported on roadways.

 

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They have been using electric motors for locomotives for decades. Strong and reliable.

Electric locomotive - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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The predictable surprises of switching to battery powered EV's is going to be delicious.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

 

[WinterBorn]

They have been using electric motors for locomotives for decades. Strong and reliable.

Electric locomotive - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, that has already been mentioned in reply to my comment.

I don't think it is particularly relevant, since the entire reason I made that post was to point out the obvious strength of electric motors.

 

[WinterBorn]

The predictable surprises of switching to battery powered EV's is going to be delicious.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't think there will be any surprises in this case. The only drawback is the range of an EV. And how far does a garbage truck travel in a day?

 

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They have been using electric motors for locomotives for decades. Strong and reliable.

Electric locomotive - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, that has already been mentioned in reply to my comment.

I don't think it is particularly relevant, since the entire reason I made that post was to point out the obvious strength of electric motors.

I doubt that battery power will end up being a strength for mack trucks.

 

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The predictable surprises of switching to battery powered EV's is going to be delicious.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't think there will be any surprises in this case. The only drawback is the range of an EV. And how far does a garbage truck travel in a day?

Ummm... temperature cycles affect battery life, batteries life diminishes as they age, running out of juice at inopportune times and locations.... just to name a few.

Now multiply that for millions of vehicles.

 

[Oddball]

I do not believe electric is the answer with the tech of today. Battery tech still has more drawbacks than pros, i.e. capacity, life, volatility, and disposal of hazardous waste. I believe the answer is in hydrogen fuel cells. It is abundant and non-polluting.

Zero-point is going to be the answer.....But, as it is for the fossil fuel industry, there's no money in it for the "green energy" pimps either.

 

[Oddball]

The predictable surprises of switching to battery powered EV's is going to be delicious.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't think there will be any surprises in this case. The only drawback is the range of an EV. And how far does a garbage truck travel in a day?

Ummm... temperature cycles affect battery life, batteries life diminishes as they age, running out of juice at inopportune times and locations.... just to name a few.

Now multiply that for millions of vehicles.

Lest we forget the nasty chemicals needed for the electrolyte.

 

[Concerned American]

I do not believe electric is the answer with the tech of today. Battery tech still has more drawbacks than pros, i.e. capacity, life, volatility, and disposal of hazardous waste. I believe the answer is in hydrogen fuel cells. It is abundant and non-polluting.

Zero-point is going to be the answer.....But, as it is for the fossil fuel industry, there's no money in it for the "green energy" pimps either.

I had never heard of ZPE before your post. I read a little about it. Sounds interesting if it could be harnessed.

 

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The predictable surprises of switching to battery powered EV's is going to be delicious.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't think there will be any surprises in this case. The only drawback is the range of an EV. And how far does a garbage truck travel in a day?

Ummm... temperature cycles affect battery life, batteries life diminishes as they age, running out of juice at inopportune times and locations.... just to name a few.

Now multiply that for millions of vehicles.

Lest we forget the nasty chemicals needed for the electrolyte.

I would like to think that most people who own cell phones which use lithium batteries should be able to extrapolate those experiences to EV's.

 

[Oddball]

I do not believe electric is the answer with the tech of today. Battery tech still has more drawbacks than pros, i.e. capacity, life, volatility, and disposal of hazardous waste. I believe the answer is in hydrogen fuel cells. It is abundant and non-polluting.

Zero-point is going to be the answer.....But, as it is for the fossil fuel industry, there's no money in it for the "green energy" pimps either.

I had never heard of ZPE before your post. I read a little about it. Sounds interesting if it could be harnessed.

It already had been harnessed.

 

[Oddball]

The predictable surprises of switching to battery powered EV's is going to be delicious.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't think there will be any surprises in this case. The only drawback is the range of an EV. And how far does a garbage truck travel in a day?

Ummm... temperature cycles affect battery life, batteries life diminishes as they age, running out of juice at inopportune times and locations.... just to name a few.

Now multiply that for millions of vehicles.

Lest we forget the nasty chemicals needed for the electrolyte.

I would like to think that most people who own cell phones which use lithium batteries should be able to extrapolate those experiences to EV's.

Nothing like thermal runaway with a 40-ton vehicle!

 

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The predictable surprises of switching to battery powered EV's is going to be delicious.

There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I don't think there will be any surprises in this case. The only drawback is the range of an EV. And how far does a garbage truck travel in a day?

Ummm... temperature cycles affect battery life, batteries life diminishes as they age, running out of juice at inopportune times and locations.... just to name a few.

Now multiply that for millions of vehicles.

Lest we forget the nasty chemicals needed for the electrolyte.

I would like to think that most people who own cell phones which use lithium batteries should be able to extrapolate those experiences to EV's.

Nothing like thermal runaway with a 40-ton vehicle!

I forgot to mention that one. It's already happened to a buddy of mine.

The story he tells about the series of message the vehicle gave him is hilarious.

 

[skookerasbil]

The climate obsessed folks have been talking up battery life crap for over 10 years in this forum. Batteries still blow......and anyway, electric trucks are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive for the typical city budget. Every city will have a few token EV trucks to bamboozle the dim witted on the left.