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Stupid once again you're using a straw man crazy people aren't allowed to buy guns

Why does a state with the toughest gun laws have a mass shooting?

Connecticut gun laws among the toughest in the U.S. - The York Daily Record

Because being the "toughest gun law in the US" is like being the "Leper with the most fingers".

It's still rotten.

A crazy person was able to get guns. Guns were too easy for him to get.

Crazy Person + Gun = Tragedy.

Crazy Person - Gun = Unhappy crazy person who probably still needs help.

No what this mass shooting has proven is that gun control does not work.
 
Stupid once again you're using a straw man crazy people aren't allowed to buy guns

Why does a state with the toughest gun laws have a mass shooting?

Connecticut gun laws among the toughest in the U.S. - The York Daily Record

Because being the "toughest gun law in the US" is like being the "Leper with the most fingers".

It's still rotten.

A crazy person was able to get guns. Guns were too easy for him to get.

Crazy Person + Gun = Tragedy.

Crazy Person - Gun = Unhappy crazy person who probably still needs help.

Too Stupid. It's illegal for crazy people to have guns.

Sain Person + Gun = Some protection from Crazy Person.

The only gun control we need is to control your own guns. Not Government Gun Control! That government control shit has NEVER worked & will NEVER work.
 
why do you guys even try to debate with joe????It is a exercise in futility. He has proven he cant understand the simplest of things and is programed to lick progressive boots.
 
Stupid once again you're using a straw man crazy people aren't allowed to buy guns

Why does a state with the toughest gun laws have a mass shooting?

Connecticut gun laws among the toughest in the U.S. - The York Daily Record

Because being the "toughest gun law in the US" is like being the "Leper with the most fingers".

It's still rotten.

A crazy person was able to get guns. Guns were too easy for him to get.

Crazy Person + Gun = Tragedy.

Crazy Person - Gun = Unhappy crazy person who probably still needs help.

Crazy Person + Vehicle = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Knives = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Chemicals =Tragedy
Crazy Person + Hammer = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Poisoned Kool Aid =Tragedy

See the common theme?

The issue is and always will be the breakdown in understanding and caring for those suffering with mental illness.

The issue today is trying to understand whether the use of prescription psychotropic medications in children and teens is creating a new crisis or issue.

The issue today is exploring whether the healthcare and support system we offer the mentally ill is working properly to protect the sick from harming themselves and harming others.

Don't let politics cloud your thinking. I am more than willing to discuss assault weapons but others should be willing to address the huge role mental illness often plays in these mass killings.
 
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A gun was in a place where he could get it. That's "access".

I realize you have a hard time with words. "Well-Regulated Militia" just sends you into a tizzy.

If Conniticutt says you can't have a gun if you are a crazy person or under 21, just take Mom's! And shoot her with them. And her kids who were getting more attention than he was.

He killed the legal owner of the guns, so that proves he had access.

Want to explain that logical failure?

A person who apparently told him where the guns were, left them unlocked where he could get at them AND even took him to the shooting range so he could practice.

All the while knowing he was insane and refusing to treat him differently.
 
Stupid once again you're using a straw man crazy people aren't allowed to buy guns

Why does a state with the toughest gun laws have a mass shooting?

Connecticut gun laws among the toughest in the U.S. - The York Daily Record

Because being the "toughest gun law in the US" is like being the "Leper with the most fingers".

It's still rotten.

A crazy person was able to get guns. Guns were too easy for him to get.

Crazy Person + Gun = Tragedy.

Crazy Person - Gun = Unhappy crazy person who probably still needs help.

Crazy Person + Vehicle = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Knives = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Chemicals =Tragedy
Crazy Person + Hammer = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Poisoned Kool Aid =Tragedy

See the common theme?

The issue is and always will be the breakdown in understanding and caring for those suffering with mental illness.

The issue today is trying to understand whether the use of prescription psychotropic medications in children and teens is creating a new crisis or issue.

The issue today is exploring whether the healthcare and support system we offer the mentally ill is working properly to protect the sick from harming themselves and harming others.

Don't let politics cloud your thinking. I am more than willing to discuss assault weapons but others should be willing to address the huge role mental illness often plays in these mass killings.

This is why we have the increase in violence. The idea that the insane aren't getting enough support, enough care. They can be treated and made whole if only they had the proper application of understanding and compassion.

Then when we, as a people, refuse to call evil what it is, find excuses and take on some kind of societal blame what do we get for such sackcloth and ashes efforts? We get MORE.

Oklahoma teen arrested in school shooting plot

Fortunately in the Oklahoma case, someone stepped forward to identify the nut before he was able to sympathy he way into murder.
 
Children who never would have died if a crazy person couldn't get a gun...

So he would have used a sword or knife. Take away all the guns and people will still find a way to kill others...Started with someone named Cain and a rock if the book is true......

It isn't... so I don't worry about that.

There's no way this guy could have killed 27 people with a sword.

And what would have stopped him? Someone else with a sword? How long do you think it would take? And remember a sword is nearly silent.....
 
When DC's gun laws became the most restrictive in the land, that instantly became the place where innocent civilians were most likely to be gunned down.

Progressive yahoos know this, just as they know that abortion for all results in increased abortions. THEY DON'T CARE. Their primary objective is #1, disarm law abiding people, and #2, reduce the population.

Seriously. DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM. They do not care if children are mowed down. Dead children are secondary to establishing a totalitarian regime. In fact, they generally have plans of their own for reducing the population.
 
I am still disgusted by those who went after Guns and the 2nd Amendment before the bodies were cold and counted.

Motherfuck each and every single one of you Shameless Douchebags. :thup:

:)

peace...
 
Because being the "toughest gun law in the US" is like being the "Leper with the most fingers".

It's still rotten.

A crazy person was able to get guns. Guns were too easy for him to get.

Crazy Person + Gun = Tragedy.

Crazy Person - Gun = Unhappy crazy person who probably still needs help.

Crazy Person + Vehicle = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Knives = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Chemicals =Tragedy
Crazy Person + Hammer = Tragedy
Crazy Person + Poisoned Kool Aid =Tragedy

See the common theme?

The issue is and always will be the breakdown in understanding and caring for those suffering with mental illness.

The issue today is trying to understand whether the use of prescription psychotropic medications in children and teens is creating a new crisis or issue.

The issue today is exploring whether the healthcare and support system we offer the mentally ill is working properly to protect the sick from harming themselves and harming others.

Don't let politics cloud your thinking. I am more than willing to discuss assault weapons but others should be willing to address the huge role mental illness often plays in these mass killings.

This is why we have the increase in violence. The idea that the insane aren't getting enough support, enough care. They can be treated and made whole if only they had the proper application of understanding and compassion.

Then when we, as a people, refuse to call evil what it is, find excuses and take on some kind of societal blame what do we get for such sackcloth and ashes efforts? We get MORE.

Oklahoma teen arrested in school shooting plot

Fortunately in the Oklahoma case, someone stepped forward to identify the nut before he was able to sympathy he way into murder.

I believe the cry to add more gun laws or to ban some guns is the solution for those who don't want to deal with the complexities of why mass killings happen. Understanding mental illness, and there are so many forms and degrees of such, is much more complicated and honestly less of a political card to play for those who like to politicize everything.
 
As opposed to handing over your guns and complying with the law?

Man, what a crazy idea that is.

You have the right to resist an unjust law.

Murderers think the murder laws are "unjust". Rapists think the sexual assault laws are "unjust".

That's pretty much the most restarded thing you've said yet, and frankly, you say retarded things all day.

Now that is a stupid statement......... Do carry on, you are so entertaining.....Scary that you can vote, but entertaining....
 
Did the tragic phenomena of mass shooting exist before citizens were allowed to have the weaponry of soldiers and law enforcement? Was it at all possible to fire four or five shots per second into a crowd, mowing them down like summer wheat? Is there a legitimate need for citizens to own the weaponry designed for warfare and law enforcement? And is that need greater than the right of citizens to assemble in schools, theaters and restaurant without the fear of semi or fully automatic weapon fire? Don't give me the esoteric speculative answer of a 'free citizenry is an armed citizenry'. There is no freedom for the victims of mass shootings.

It's time to take "mass" out of "mass murder". If the only reason people want high capacity magazines and semi or fully automatic firing actions is to satisfy a prurient adolescent desire to play army or act out scenes from Rambo movies, I submit that the rights of people not to be subjected to gun violence on a 'mass' scale far outweigh the childish desires of a few to be able to fire 5 shots a second.

The second amendment says "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Do assault rifles and semi automatic weapons belong on the streets, or are they the type of weaponry that belong in the hands of a well regulated militia?
 
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So he would have used a sword or knife. Take away all the guns and people will still find a way to kill others...Started with someone named Cain and a rock if the book is true......

It isn't... so I don't worry about that.

There's no way this guy could have killed 27 people with a sword.

And what would have stopped him? Someone else with a sword? How long do you think it would take? And remember a sword is nearly silent.....

How was the Manson Family stopped? They stabbed their victims to death. Houseloads of them. An unarmed houseload by the way.

With no one to stop him, how many people could Lanza have killed with an axe?
 
I am not convinced he can.

I think about half the posters on here are convicted felons.
 

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