Emails Reveal President Obama Shut Down WW2 Memorial Knowing Vets Were Coming!

[kaz]

The economy grew by $24 billion less than it would have without the shutdown. That's the entire point of the article.

Which is why pulling it out of their ass was so easy, they didn't have to prove anything. The claim is of course unprovable because it's ridiculous.

Hey just because I posted a link with logical reasoning in it didn't mean I expected it to have any effect on the delusional world you cons have created for yourselves.

No matter how many times a liberal calls me a "con" it never fails to crack me up. Sure, I'm laughing at you, but hey, you're still making me laugh.

And articles supposedly on economics which are self serving to liberal lawyers and contradict the field of economics are not "logical." They are baa-seless points bleated by their sheep.

 

[paulitician]

Hey, ya gotta make the Illegals happy. He made sure their Party happened, didn't he? But to Hell with American Heroes. Vets despise this President. And they have good reason to.

yes they do
I am working at an American Legion now and was working for the VFW before that

can't stand the man..but they know a fake when they see one

Obama couldn't take the time to learn to pronounce, corpsman...

it was sickening

He doesn't respect them. But then again, he can't even spell the word...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AcaAk_vqNM]Obama Cant Spell 'Respect' - YouTube[/ame]

 

[kaz]

So Obama shut down the memorial knowing vets were coming in retaliation to Conservatives not supporting his budget?

It's bridgegate at a federal level!

People are so ridiculous.

It's completely different actually. Obama is a Democrat.

 

[paulitician]

To sum it all up...Illegals partied their asses off during the Shut Down, while American Vets and good American Citizens were shit on. But hey, what can you expect from a Communist Foreigner? I'm actually surprised this stuff still surprises so many people. His behavior makes perfect sense when you really think about it. He gave his Illegals special treatment and shit on our brave Vets. It's not surprising. It's actually to be expected.

 

[Jarhead]

Actually, the Government shut down because Congress failed to pass a Continuing Resolution. Normally, this means keep working for 90 days under existing funding levels while we work this out

But Republicans saw it as an opportunity for extortion. Defund Obamacare or the Government shuts down.

Yep.

And every time the President delays part of the law, he is admitting that it would have been a good idea to sit with the republicans and come to a deal that meets much of what they wanted while keeping the ACA funded, but many parts delayed for fine tuning.

But instead?

He looked at how he can gain politically by the GOP action.

He never ONCE looked at the fact that many of their concerns of the law were coming to fruition.

That's not leadership. That is party warfare. Unbecoming of a President.

That is not what actually happened

Republicans wanted to defund ALL of Obamacare in an attempt at extortion
When that failed, their backup plan was to delay the Healthcare Exchanges for one year
When that failed Boehner started to cry and asked if there was ANYTHING he could get for the Republican Shutdown

They ended up with nothing...

Sure....you can say it that way if you want to....

or.....

The GOP was hell bent on stopping that law because they were convinced that once it was enacted, it will be nearly impossible to repeal.

Now, why did they want to stop the law?

They knew that despite the promises of those that didn't read the law...

1) People would lose their policies they preferred to keep
2) The younger generation so necessary for its success would not sign up at the rate those that didn't read the law promised they would
3) The law would not be deficit neutral as was promised
4) Doctors may decide to opt out of certain exchange policies resulting in people losing the doctors they were promised they would be able to keep

So for dozens of times, they opened the floor for debate and discuss the repealing of the law.

But no one would listen. Not the democrats in congress, the President or the media. No one would listen.

So they were forced to use extortion to do what was best for the American People.

Yep...they compromised their reputation SO PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN.

But still, no one did. Instead, democrats, the President and the media pointed fingers at the bad old republicans.

And then?

The media, the President and the democrats in congress noticed that things were going awry, just as the republicans warned.

And what happens?

Asses like you see it that they were extorting for personal gain.

And why do you think that?

Because the President, once again, has you trained to believe whatever he wants you to.

 

[KNB]

Republicans opposed Obamacare before Obamacare was even written or Obama was even elected.

 

[Jarhead]

Republicans opposed Obamacare before Obamacare was even written or Obama was even elected.

yep.

Trained you quite well.

And I didn't vote for the man because he is black.

I get it. Move on little child. Let the adults debate.

 

[rightwinger]

Yep.

And every time the President delays part of the law, he is admitting that it would have been a good idea to sit with the republicans and come to a deal that meets much of what they wanted while keeping the ACA funded, but many parts delayed for fine tuning.

But instead?

He looked at how he can gain politically by the GOP action.

He never ONCE looked at the fact that many of their concerns of the law were coming to fruition.

That's not leadership. That is party warfare. Unbecoming of a President.

That is not what actually happened

Republicans wanted to defund ALL of Obamacare in an attempt at extortion
When that failed, their backup plan was to delay the Healthcare Exchanges for one year
When that failed Boehner started to cry and asked if there was ANYTHING he could get for the Republican Shutdown

They ended up with nothing...

Sure....you can say it that way if you want to....

or.....

The GOP was hell bent on stopping that law because they were convinced that once it was enacted, it will be nearly impossible to repeal.

Now, why did they want to stop the law?

They knew that despite the promises of those that didn't read the law...

1) People would lose their policies they preferred to keep
2) The younger generation so necessary for its success would not sign up at the rate those that didn't read the law promised they would
3) The law would not be deficit neutral as was promised
4) Doctors may decide to opt out of certain exchange policies resulting in people losing the doctors they were promised they would be able to keep

So for dozens of times, they opened the floor for debate and discuss the repealing of the law.

But no one would listen. Not the democrats in congress, the President or the media. No one would listen.

So they were forced to use extortion to do what was best for the American People.

Yep...they compromised their reputation SO PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN.

But still, no one did. Instead, democrats, the President and the media pointed fingers at the bad old republicans.

And then?

The media, the President and the democrats in congress noticed that things were going awry, just as the republicans warned.

And what happens?

Asses like you see it that they were extorting for personal gain.

And why do you think that?

Because the President, once again, has you trained to believe whatever he wants you to.

Republicans oppose Obamacare

Got it....you lost

A Constitutionally elected Congress passed the bill, The President signed it into law. The Supreme Court affirmed its Constitutionality

Obamacare is the law of the land

You don't like it....Do something about it

Get control of the House, 60 votes in the Senate and the White House and you can write your own law. That is what the Democrats had to do

 

[Jarhead]

That is not what actually happened

Republicans wanted to defund ALL of Obamacare in an attempt at extortion
When that failed, their backup plan was to delay the Healthcare Exchanges for one year
When that failed Boehner started to cry and asked if there was ANYTHING he could get for the Republican Shutdown

They ended up with nothing...

Sure....you can say it that way if you want to....

or.....

The GOP was hell bent on stopping that law because they were convinced that once it was enacted, it will be nearly impossible to repeal.

Now, why did they want to stop the law?

They knew that despite the promises of those that didn't read the law...

1) People would lose their policies they preferred to keep
2) The younger generation so necessary for its success would not sign up at the rate those that didn't read the law promised they would
3) The law would not be deficit neutral as was promised
4) Doctors may decide to opt out of certain exchange policies resulting in people losing the doctors they were promised they would be able to keep

So for dozens of times, they opened the floor for debate and discuss the repealing of the law.

But no one would listen. Not the democrats in congress, the President or the media. No one would listen.

So they were forced to use extortion to do what was best for the American People.

Yep...they compromised their reputation SO PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN.

But still, no one did. Instead, democrats, the President and the media pointed fingers at the bad old republicans.

And then?

The media, the President and the democrats in congress noticed that things were going awry, just as the republicans warned.

And what happens?

Asses like you see it that they were extorting for personal gain.

And why do you think that?

Because the President, once again, has you trained to believe whatever he wants you to.

Republicans oppose Obamacare

Got it....you lost

A Constitutionally elected Congress passed the bill, The President signed it into law. The Supreme Court affirmed its Constitutionality

Obamacare is the law of the land

You don't like it....Do something about it

Get control of the House, 60 votes in the Senate and the White House and you can write your own law. That is what the Democrats had to do

Interesting response. "you lost"....

That's the problem. It is all about "majority".....and I don't mind "majority" being a factor when it comes to appointments and such....but when it is a major overhaul of 1/6 of our economy...and affects everyone...all members of congress need to take their partisan glasses off and make sure the right thing is done.

But in the case of the ACA.....no one even read the complete bill before voting for it....it was impossible.

So the GOP...Ted Cruz in particular said....

Hell with how we look, we have been doing our best to make those ideologues to seriously examine what they have done before it is too late....we need to take drastic measures. Once that law is in full swing, it will not be repealable....

But whatever.....continue being happy with a law that has yet to prove to be anything it was promised to be. AND WE KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE......THE PARTS THAT WERE DELAYED WITHOUT DEBATE? THEY WILL NOT MAKE THIS LAW ANY BETTER. THATS FOR SURE!

 

[rightwinger]

Sure....you can say it that way if you want to....

or.....

The GOP was hell bent on stopping that law because they were convinced that once it was enacted, it will be nearly impossible to repeal.

Now, why did they want to stop the law?

They knew that despite the promises of those that didn't read the law...

1) People would lose their policies they preferred to keep
2) The younger generation so necessary for its success would not sign up at the rate those that didn't read the law promised they would
3) The law would not be deficit neutral as was promised
4) Doctors may decide to opt out of certain exchange policies resulting in people losing the doctors they were promised they would be able to keep

So for dozens of times, they opened the floor for debate and discuss the repealing of the law.

But no one would listen. Not the democrats in congress, the President or the media. No one would listen.

So they were forced to use extortion to do what was best for the American People.

Yep...they compromised their reputation SO PEOPLE WOULD LISTEN.

But still, no one did. Instead, democrats, the President and the media pointed fingers at the bad old republicans.

And then?

The media, the President and the democrats in congress noticed that things were going awry, just as the republicans warned.

And what happens?

Asses like you see it that they were extorting for personal gain.

And why do you think that?

Because the President, once again, has you trained to believe whatever he wants you to.

Republicans oppose Obamacare

Got it....you lost

A Constitutionally elected Congress passed the bill, The President signed it into law. The Supreme Court affirmed its Constitutionality

Obamacare is the law of the land

You don't like it....Do something about it

Get control of the House, 60 votes in the Senate and the White House and you can write your own law. That is what the Democrats had to do

Interesting response. "you lost"....

That's the problem. It is all about "majority".....and I don't mind "majority" being a factor when it comes to appointments and such....but when it is a major overhaul of 1/6 of our economy...and affects everyone...all members of congress need to take their partisan glasses off and make sure the right thing is done.

But in the case of the ACA.....no one even read the complete bill before voting for it....it was impossible.

So the GOP...Ted Cruz in particular said....

Hell with how we look, we have been doing our best to make those ideologues to seriously examine what they have done before it is too late....we need to take drastic measures. Once that law is in full swing, it will not be repealable....

But whatever.....continue being happy with a law that has yet to prove to be anything it was promised to be. AND WE KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE......THE PARTS THAT WERE DELAYED WITHOUT DEBATE? THEY WILL NOT MAKE THIS LAW ANY BETTER. THATS FOR SURE!

Republicans have passed 50 bills to repeal Obamacare, none to make it better

You want to pass a better bill than Obamacare? Do it the way Democrats had to do it

Get elected

 

[BluesMistress]

No, they have not lost their insurance

They lost their former policy and have been offered one with better coverage

Ummm... Yes, Obama does have the authority to delay those mandates. It is within the powers of the executive branch

Obama did not close down a memorial. He closed ALL Parks as nonessential government functions. Can you defend why a PARK should be an essential function?

And you continue to show you're a real asshole...lacking facts. Some things you can always count on here at USMB. One is that you'll continue to defend the indefensible.....

Is that the best you got?

I'm still looking for you to explain how a park is an essential government service

You continue to suck on obama cock without seeking facts even when they are spoon fed to you.
The memorial has NEVER had security until obama placed them there along with the barricades. Many go there at night, some at sunrise...Whatever the time of day the vet's have always been Free to visit until the Liar in Chief closed it with barricades. You should be ashamed of yourself trying to defend this POS president from keeping those vets away from that memorial.

 

[rightwinger]

And you continue to show you're a real asshole...lacking facts. Some things you can always count on here at USMB. One is that you'll continue to defend the indefensible.....

Is that the best you got?

I'm still looking for you to explain how a park is an essential government service

You continue to suck on obama cock without seeking facts even when they are spoon fed to you.
The memorial has NEVER had security until obama placed them there along with the barricades. Many go there at night, some at sunrise...Whatever the time of day the vet's have always been Free to visit until the Liar in Chief closed it with barricades. You should be ashamed of yourself trying to defend this POS president from keeping those vets away from that memorial.

Wow ...took you all day for that one

"You continue to suck Obamas cock"

You are obviously well educated for a Conservative

 

[Oldstyle]

Republicans opposed Obamacare before Obamacare was even written or Obama was even elected.

That's one of the more absurd comments I've heard on here. A more truthful statement would be that liberals supported ObamaCare before they even knew what was in it.

Republicans opposed the ACA because they didn't think it would DO what you liberals said it would...namely lower overall healthcare costs which is what the majority of Americans WANTED! Those Republicans warned that what was being proposed would in fact increase the cost of most Middle Class people's healthcare while lessening the quality of care.

So fast forward to the present and who turned out to be right...and who turned out to be the victims of lies told to advance an agenda? The American people got suckered by a smooth con man and NOW it's dawning on them that took place. It's really that simple.

 

[kaz]

Republicans opposed Obamacare before Obamacare was even written or Obama was even elected.

Republicans are usually wrong, but not always.

 

[kaz]

A more truthful statement would be that liberals supported ObamaCare before they even knew what was in it

They ... voted ... for Obamacare before they know what was in it ...

 

[driveby]

As I recall the shutdown was caused because the republicans wanted to postpone the implementation of obamacare. Obama refused to worked with republicans then went on his own and deeded himself King to postpone obamacare exactly as the republican originally requested. Problem is Obama has no authority to make up or change the law anytime he feels like it.
The closing of the WWII war memorial when Obama knew there were vets traveling to visit is just one more reason Obama is a vindictive POS that has no R-S-P-E-C-T for real Americans. I am ashamed of his treatment of our Greatest American Heros ~

Actually the shutdown was caused by Republicans refusing to pass a continuing resolution to keep the government running under the existing budget

They wanted to defund Obamacare. The "delay" was just a pathetic attempt to save face with their base

The delay was a compromise, Obama and the democrats wanted to keep the shutdown going to score political points, to hell with the people. Why the fuck would Harry Reid want to save a kid with cancer? Now look, the stupid assholes are delaying every vital part as much as possible anyway....

 

[FA_Q2]

Shutdown took $24 billion bite out of economy - Oct. 16, 2013

And yet the economy grew during that time.

Basically, the theorists say that the economy lost 32 billion. Reality disagreed. We should probably believe reality….

The economy grew by $24 billion less than it would have without the shutdown. That's the entire point of the article.

Again, a point that is ONLY valid if you completely ignore reality. It is the number crunchers demanding that they are correct even when the world tells them they are not. The economy grew more than those same number crunchers thought it would. Does the period before the shutdown and after show significantly grater growth? No? Then WHAT, precisely, real world FACT are they basing those conclusions on?

The answer is none – they are basing that conclusion entirely on models – NOT reality. I choose, again, to actually believe reality. It tends to smack theory in the face sometimes to show it that theory does not always know all the details.

 

[FA_Q2]

And yet the economy grew during that time.

Basically, the theorists say that the economy lost 32 billion. Reality disagreed. We should probably believe reality….

The economy grew by $24 billion less than it would have without the shutdown. That's the entire point of the article.

Which is why pulling it out of their ass was so easy, they didn't have to prove anything. The claim is of course unprovable because it's ridiculous.

Well, no. It actually IS provable. The problem is that reality shown that they were incorrect. I will not venture a reason as to why – I don’t know but the growth was not anemic compared to any other close time period and did better than what they thought it would. That cannot be true AND the demands that the economy lost so much money in that short time.

 

[kaz]

The economy grew by $24 billion less than it would have without the shutdown. That's the entire point of the article.

Which is why pulling it out of their ass was so easy, they didn't have to prove anything. The claim is of course unprovable because it's ridiculous.

Well, no. It actually IS provable. The problem is that reality shown that they were incorrect. I will not venture a reason as to why – I don’t know but the growth was not anemic compared to any other close time period and did better than what they thought it would. That cannot be true AND the demands that the economy lost so much money in that short time.

I have no idea what you just said

 

[rightwinger]

A more truthful statement would be that liberals supported ObamaCare before they even knew what was in it

They ... voted ... for Obamacare before they know what was in it ...

Totally ridiculous

But Fox keeps saying it so it must be true