EPA To Alaskans In Sub-Zero Temps: Stop Burning Wood To Keep Warm

[easyt65]

'EPA To Alaskans In Sub-Zero Temps: Stop Burning Wood To Keep Warm'

Alaskans to EPA:

 

[depotoo]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/25/us/alaskans-cost-of-staying-warm-a-thick-coat-of-dirty-air.html

“It’s all one thing — when you most need the heat is when you’re most apt to create a serious air pollution problem for yourself and the people in your community,” said Tim Hamlin, the director of the office of air and waste at the E.P.A.’s Region 10, which includes Alaska.

And forces are now converging to heighten the tension in this seemingly unlikely pollution story. Civil fines by Fairbanks North Star Borough — which includes the cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, with a total population of about 100,000 — could be assessed in coming days against residential polluters. The E.P.A. could declare the entire area to be in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year, with potentially huge economic implications, including a cutoff of federal transportation funds.

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Residents are also trapped, he said, by economics. Natural gas, a much cleaner fuel source, is not widely available in this part of Alaska, and heating oil can be very expensive. Oil also produces particulate pollution, though less than wood. A study for the borough last year said residents here spent, on average, almost four times the national average in annual heating costs.

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Mr. Hamlin, the E.P.A. official, said his agency was definitely not trying to take away anyone’s wood stove, or make life more expensive. But he said the Clean Air Act, passed by Congress in 1970, requires a standard of breathable air for all Americans. The E.P.A. was given the job of enforcing that standard.

“We don’t want to be telling people what to do, but the standard is what it is, and we want to work with you to be able to get there,” he said.

 

[owebo]

What will the EPA replace the wood with? Or, do they expect Alaskans to freeze to death?

Have no fear. Environmental genius rick perry will be here to save the day by running the department that he wanted to get rid of, but just couldn't think of the name of. LOL.

Running? He intends to abolish it....too fucking bad for you....

 

[owebo]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/25/us/alaskans-cost-of-staying-warm-a-thick-coat-of-dirty-air.html

“It’s all one thing — when you most need the heat is when you’re most apt to create a serious air pollution problem for yourself and the people in your community,” said Tim Hamlin, the director of the office of air and waste at the E.P.A.’s Region 10, which includes Alaska.

And forces are now converging to heighten the tension in this seemingly unlikely pollution story. Civil fines by Fairbanks North Star Borough — which includes the cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, with a total population of about 100,000 — could be assessed in coming days against residential polluters. The E.P.A. could declare the entire area to be in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year, with potentially huge economic implications, including a cutoff of federal transportation funds.

…

Residents are also trapped, he said, by economics. Natural gas, a much cleaner fuel source, is not widely available in this part of Alaska, and heating oil can be very expensive. Oil also produces particulate pollution, though less than wood. A study for the borough last year said residents here spent, on average, almost four times the national average in annual heating costs.

…

Mr. Hamlin, the E.P.A. official, said his agency was definitely not trying to take away anyone’s wood stove, or make life more expensive. But he said the Clean Air Act, passed by Congress in 1970, requires a standard of breathable air for all Americans. The E.P.A. was given the job of enforcing that standard.

“We don’t want to be telling people what to do, but the standard is what it is, and we want to work with you to be able to get there,” he said.

PM 2.5 was a recent fascist liberal regulation, and it was intended to regulate all combustion out of existence....

Trump will fix this bullshit.....

 

[jon_berzerk]

FTom the article: The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

So, let's recap. This paper says the EPA could do something but hasn't done anything. What happens to you when something actually happens?

did obama send them a strongly worded letter

 

[Correll]

Apparently heating oil is too expensive and natural gas is not available.

Do they still make electric blankets?

Maybe they should burn some coal???

silly liberals, y'all are so precious. never change - please. I mean that...

EPA To Alaskans In Sub-Zero Temps: Stop Burning Wood To Keep Warm

In Jack London’s famous short story, “To Build A Fire,” a man freezes to death because he underestimates the cold in America’s far north and cannot build a proper fire. The unnamed man—a chechaquo, what Alaska natives call newcomers—is accompanied by a wolf-dog that knows the danger of the cold and is wholly indifferent to the fate of the man. “This man did not know cold. Possibly, all the generations of his ancestry had been ignorant of cold, of real cold, of cold 107 degrees below freezing point. But the dog knew; all its ancestry knew, and it had inherited the knowledge.”

If only the bureaucrats in Washington DC knew what the wolf-dog knew. But alas, now comes the federal government to tell the inhabitants of Alaska’s interior that, really, they should not be building fires to keep themselves warm during the winter. The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

How do people so fucking stupid find their way out of their homes to annoy us?

 

[jon_berzerk]

FTom the article: The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

So, let's recap. This paper says the EPA could do something but hasn't done anything. What happens to you when something actually happens?

So let's recap. Liberal elitist douchebags are weighing their options to interfere with people on the edge of the world for no reason other than they can.

Real champions of the people

yeah

and they wonder why the have been losing in landslide

after landslide

 

[jon_berzerk]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/25/us/alaskans-cost-of-staying-warm-a-thick-coat-of-dirty-air.html

“It’s all one thing — when you most need the heat is when you’re most apt to create a serious air pollution problem for yourself and the people in your community,” said Tim Hamlin, the director of the office of air and waste at the E.P.A.’s Region 10, which includes Alaska.

And forces are now converging to heighten the tension in this seemingly unlikely pollution story. Civil fines by Fairbanks North Star Borough — which includes the cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, with a total population of about 100,000 — could be assessed in coming days against residential polluters. The E.P.A. could declare the entire area to be in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year, with potentially huge economic implications, including a cutoff of federal transportation funds.

…

Residents are also trapped, he said, by economics. Natural gas, a much cleaner fuel source, is not widely available in this part of Alaska, and heating oil can be very expensive. Oil also produces particulate pollution, though less than wood. A study for the borough last year said residents here spent, on average, almost four times the national average in annual heating costs.

…

Mr. Hamlin, the E.P.A. official, said his agency was definitely not trying to take away anyone’s wood stove, or make life more expensive. But he said the Clean Air Act, passed by Congress in 1970, requires a standard of breathable air for all Americans. The E.P.A. was given the job of enforcing that standard.

“We don’t want to be telling people what to do, but the standard is what it is, and we want to work with you to be able to get there,” he said.

nuclear power

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/25/us/alaskans-cost-of-staying-warm-a-thick-coat-of-dirty-air.html

“It’s all one thing — when you most need the heat is when you’re most apt to create a serious air pollution problem for yourself and the people in your community,” said Tim Hamlin, the director of the office of air and waste at the E.P.A.’s Region 10, which includes Alaska.

And forces are now converging to heighten the tension in this seemingly unlikely pollution story. Civil fines by Fairbanks North Star Borough — which includes the cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, with a total population of about 100,000 — could be assessed in coming days against residential polluters. The E.P.A. could declare the entire area to be in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year, with potentially huge economic implications, including a cutoff of federal transportation funds.

…

Residents are also trapped, he said, by economics. Natural gas, a much cleaner fuel source, is not widely available in this part of Alaska, and heating oil can be very expensive. Oil also produces particulate pollution, though less than wood. A study for the borough last year said residents here spent, on average, almost four times the national average in annual heating costs.

…

Mr. Hamlin, the E.P.A. official, said his agency was definitely not trying to take away anyone’s wood stove, or make life more expensive. But he said the Clean Air Act, passed by Congress in 1970, requires a standard of breathable air for all Americans. The E.P.A. was given the job of enforcing that standard.

“We don’t want to be telling people what to do, but the standard is what it is, and we want to work with you to be able to get there,” he said.

There is a lot of could and woulds in that post but no actions.

 

[Old Rocks]

Apparently heating oil is too expensive and natural gas is not available.

Do they still make electric blankets?

Maybe they should burn some coal???

silly liberals, y'all are so precious. never change - please. I mean that...

EPA To Alaskans In Sub-Zero Temps: Stop Burning Wood To Keep Warm

In Jack London’s famous short story, “To Build A Fire,” a man freezes to death because he underestimates the cold in America’s far north and cannot build a proper fire. The unnamed man—a chechaquo, what Alaska natives call newcomers—is accompanied by a wolf-dog that knows the danger of the cold and is wholly indifferent to the fate of the man. “This man did not know cold. Possibly, all the generations of his ancestry had been ignorant of cold, of real cold, of cold 107 degrees below freezing point. But the dog knew; all its ancestry knew, and it had inherited the knowledge.”

If only the bureaucrats in Washington DC knew what the wolf-dog knew. But alas, now comes the federal government to tell the inhabitants of Alaska’s interior that, really, they should not be building fires to keep themselves warm during the winter. The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

You stupid ass. A few cabins in a valley burning wood is wholly different than several thousand homes in a city of 100,000. Wood should be only a backup for those in the heavily populated areas, even in Alaska. Wood smoke is very carcinogenic.

Wood Smoke and Your Health | Burn Wise | US EPA

What is wood smoke?
Carbon Monoxide Detectors
Smoke from wood that is not burned completely contains a number of chemicals, including carbon monoxide (CO).

More than 150 people die annually from CO poisoning related to the use of home heating appliances.

CO is odorless and colorless. If you use a wood stove or fireplace, install a digital CO detector, which sounds an alarm when CO levels increase. Protect Your Family and Yourself from Carbon Monoxide Poisoning.

Smoke forms when wood or other organic matter burns. The smoke from wood burning is made up of a complex mixture of gases and fine particles (also called particle pollution, particulate matter, or PM). These microscopic particles can get into your eyes and respiratory system, where they can cause health problems such as burning eyes, runny nose, and illnesses such as bronchitis. In addition to particle pollution, wood smoke contains several toxic harmful air pollutants including: benzene, formaldhyde, acrolein and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).

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Health effects of wood smoke

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Smoke may smell good, but it's not good for you. Both short- and long-term exposures to particle pollution from wood smoke have been linked to a variety of health effects.

Short-term exposures to particles (hours or days) can aggravate lung disease, causing asthma attacks and acute bronchitis, and may also increase susceptibility to respiratory infections. Long-term exposures (months or years) have been associated with problems such as reduced lung function and the development of chronic bronchitis—and even premature death. Some studies also suggest that long-term PM 2.5 exposures may be linked to cancer and to harmful developmental and reproductive effects, such as infant mortality and low birth weight.

 

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FTom the article: The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

So, let's recap. This paper says the EPA could do something but hasn't done anything. What happens to you when something actually happens?

did obama send them a strongly worded letter

Oh so you're against strongly worded letters now? Except twitter, cause that not technically a letter and show's strength lol

 

[dcbl]

How do people so fucking stupid find their way out of their homes to annoy us?

next week's headlines will be them screaming that Trump is continuing a "purge" as those that made threats through the agency are targeted for "promotions"

they need to be "promoted" to find a better and more rewarding opportunity out in the work force!

will be good for them, allow them to realize their true potential!

 

[jon_berzerk]

FTom the article: The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

So, let's recap. This paper says the EPA could do something but hasn't done anything. What happens to you when something actually happens?

did obama send them a strongly worded letter

Oh so you're against strongly worded letters now? Except twitter, cause that not technically a letter and show's strength lol

yes more empty rhetoric by the prezbo

 

[The VOR]

What will the EPA replace the wood with? Or, do they expect Alaskans to freeze to death?

Have no fear. Environmental genius rick perry will be here to save the day by running the department that he wanted to get rid of, but just couldn't think of the name of. LOL.

Running? He intends to abolish it....too fucking bad for you....

No, it would be too bad for every living thing on the planet, you one-line-loser.

So you don't want any regulation on toxins getting pumped into the air, ground and water? We'll just let these companies police themselves, right? After all, they would never put profit over the environment. LOL.

Are you really that much of a partisan hack, or just really, really, really fucking stupid?

I'll answer for you, both.

 

[Old Rocks]

What will the EPA replace the wood with? Or, do they expect Alaskans to freeze to death?

why the hell would he do that?

I mean, don't you think the Trump Administration is going to continue to pursue this policy to protect the environment?

THIS is exactly the kind of ridiculous that we have put out and prevented from continuing

the histrionic shrieking about it continues unabated, and has been a pure joy to watch...

No, I do not think that the orange clown's admin will protect the environment at all.

As far as the wood issue is concerned, what is being addressed is the health hazards of heavy wood use in a densely populated area. No different than the pollution from coal generation in Bejing. I am quite sure that there is plenty of electricity for heating homes in that area.

 

[Old Rocks]

If you can't afford what they recommend, I guess you deserve to die.

a leftist wet dream, put this together with the Board that decides who gets priority medical treatments once we've full nationalized health care and energy!

we can call them "death panels"

good times

So, kicking 30 million Americans off of health care insurance without anything to take it's place is not a death sentence for some of them? You ideological assholes are some sick bastards.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you can't afford what they recommend, I guess you deserve to die.

a leftist wet dream, put this together with the Board that decides who gets priority medical treatments once we've full nationalized health care and energy!

we can call them "death panels"

good times

So, kicking 30 million Americans off of health care insurance without anything to take it's place is not a death sentence for some of them? You ideological assholes are some sick bastards.

You mean like the same sick bastards that didn't give a shit about us who lost it because of Commie Care?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

FTom the article: The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

So, let's recap. This paper says the EPA could do something but hasn't done anything. What happens to you when something actually happens?

did obama send them a strongly worded letter

He didn't know anything about it until he read the newspaper.

 

[Old Rocks]

This is nothing new. Here's an article about how they wanted to tackle people that use wood for cooking in their stoves:

EPA to give grants to fight cooking stove pollution

You dumb lying shit, that is not what the article says at all. They want to find a technological fix to creating a wood burning stove or method that would result in less indoor smoke pollution from cooking fires.

EPA to give grants to fight cooking stove pollution

Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Gina McCarthy is set to unveil Tuesday six federal grants to universities to fund research on clean cooking-stove technology.

The announcement will put the EPA’s resources squarely behind a United Nations’ quest for cleaner burning stoves and an end to deadly cooking pollution.

“This research will help to improve air quality, protect public health and slow climate change,” the EPA said in explaining why the agency chief will preside over the announcement Tuesday.

To make the case for why these grants are so important, EPA noted the World Health Organization estimates that exposure to smoke from traditional cookstoves and open pit fires leads to 4.3 million premature deaths each year.
The fact is, though, most of the problem lives far from the shores of the U.S., where most Americans have modern gas and electric stoves.

Rather, the target of this research are the 3 billion people, mostly in the developing world, who still cook using solid fuels like wood, crop wastes, charcoal, coal and dung in open fires or leaky stoves, according to the World Health Organization.

 

[WillowTree]

What will the EPA replace the wood with? Or, do they expect Alaskans to freeze to death?

Have no fear. Environmental genius rick perry will be here to save the day by running the department that he wanted to get rid of, but just couldn't think of the name of. LOL.

Running? He intends to abolish it....too fucking bad for you....

No, it would be too bad for every living thing on the planet, you one-line-loser.

So you don't want any regulation on toxins getting pumped into the air, ground and water? We'll just let these companies police themselves, right? After all, they would never put profit over the environment. LOL.

Are you really that much of a partisan hack, or just really, really, really fucking stupid?

I'll answer for you, both.

Dew ewe walk or drive? Ewe notice climate warmers never walk.