Even Jesus Is A Zionist

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Is this all the Word of God is to you, spam?

I am posting Bible verses.

Does The Bible mean nothing to Zionists?

I have no ability to make the blind see.

But Jesus can.


John 9:39*ESV

Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.”

2 Corinthians 4:4*ESV

In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Romans 11:8*ESV

As it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”

2 Corinthians 4:3-4*ESV

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Matthew 13:16*ESV

But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear.

Isaiah 43:8*ESV

Bring out the people who are blind, yet have eyes, who are deaf, yet have ears!

Ephesians 2:2*

In which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

John 9:1-41*ESV

As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

Galatians 3:1*ESV

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified.

Romans 8:7-8*ESV

For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

John 9:1-17*ESV /

As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

Deuteronomy 29:4*ESV / 16 helpful votes

But to this day the*Lord*has not given you a heart to understand or eyes to see or ears to hear.

Romans 11:25*ESV / 14 helpful votes

Lest you be wise in your own sight, I want you to understand this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

John 16:33*ESV / 12 helpful votes

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”

Romans 8:28-30*ESV / 11 helpful votes

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Romans 6:23*ESV / 10 helpful votes

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

What I say is the world needs no stinking Zionists!

The world certainly needs Jesus over Zionists.

I have no ability to make the blind see.

But Jesus can.


John 9:39*ESV

Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.”

2 Corinthians 4:4*ESV

In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Romans 11:8*ESV

As it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”

2 Corinthians 4:3-4*ESV

And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Matthew 13:16*ESV

But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear.

Isaiah 43:8*ESV

Bring out the people who are blind, yet have eyes, who are deaf, yet have ears!

Ephesians 2:2*

In which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

John 9:1-41*ESV

As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

Galatians 3:1*ESV

O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified.

Romans 8:7-8*ESV

For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

John 9:1-17*ESV /

As he passed by, he saw a man blind from birth. And his disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him. We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

Deuteronomy 29:4*ESV / 16 helpful votes

But to this day the*Lord*has not given you a heart to understand or eyes to see or ears to hear.

Romans 11:25*ESV / 14 helpful votes

Lest you be wise in your own sight, I want you to understand this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

John 16:33*ESV / 12 helpful votes

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world.”

Romans 8:28-30*ESV / 11 helpful votes

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Romans 6:23*ESV / 10 helpful votes

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.





We don't need no stinking Spam!

 

[Bloodrock44]

Imp of Satan

 

[Hossfly]

When you say if we were in the place of Israel we would have done far worse, you certainly do not speak for this American.

And I am not going to justify the massacre of 1519 children Israel carried out in Palestine, by saying we would have done worse.

I shall never be an apologist for defending Israel's war crimes as you are.

I am sorry but watching children deliberately burned to death with chemical weapons, as Israel did in Cast Lead, has no justification.

And over 45 years of ethnic cleansing and a brutal Occupation in Palestine has no justification.

A: It's fairly easy to make such claims when it's not your kids being blown up at a dance hall, or night club, going out on a date.

B: Welcome to being a part of society. America, this nation, would have done far worse than Israel. You are part of this country, and until you leave, it's your tax money funding it.

Second, I have personally seen the videos of Palestinian Arabs using their own children as human shields. I've watched it happen.

When a man with a gun, fires at soldiers, while hiding behind his own child... Israel didn't kill that child. His parents, killed that child.

And make no mistake, if you were to do the same thing, and I'm the soldier, I'm going home to my family, and if that means defending my life, by shooting you and your child you are using as a human shield.... that's your choice, your responsibility, and I'll go home and sleep like a baby.

As far as defending Israel war crimes....... your opinion of me doesn't matter to me in any possible way. If I ever gave you the impression that it does, I do apologize. Allow me to be crystal clear.... I have lint in my clothes drier, that has a higher value to me, than your opinion of me.

As for the Gaza War... again, Israel was hit by rockets. There was no justification for that. That was what caused Israel to respond with military force.

Similarly, if Mexico was firing rockets into the US, we also would respond with extreme military force.

War, itself, is horror. I hate war. I hate killing people. But like I said before, if you are shooting at me, I'm going to shoot back. I'm going home. If that means causing you to not go home, then so be it.

War is hell. Don't fire rockets into Israel. I have yet to see any time in which, Israel woke up one day and said "You know... let's launch a massive military attack into somewhere nearby, and cause people around the world to hate us".

No, Hamas fired rockets into Israel, and Israel had a far more muted response, than what we in the US would do if we were in the same place.

And lastly, about those civilians killed in the war.

Again, if Mexico was firing rockets into the US, we'd invade or worse, and a can promise you civilians would die... why? Because war is horror. Stuff happens. Why you would expect perfection in military operations by Israel, when no other military on the planet can do that, is ridiculous.

And further, did you read what Hamas did in Gaza? They intentionally setup their citizens to get killed. Hamas fighters intentionally dressed as students. Dressed as doctors and nurses. They intentionally blended with unarmed non-combatants.

Let me put it another way. If you were to hold up in some hole somewhere, and the only way to get you out of that hole, is to chuck a phosphorus grenade in and burn you out.... then that's what I'm going to do. If you stuff children in front of you, so that the grenade is going to kill them in the process.... then *YOU* killed those children. It was your choice, not mine, that got them killed.

I have no choice in the matter, because if I don't deal with you, and you pop out and kill my friends, and neighbors, their blood is on my head because I failed to deal with a known threat.

Instead of blaming people for actions in the horrors of war, here's a thought.... don't start a war. Don't fire rockets at nearby countries. How crazy is that?

It is easy for me no matter the circumstances to choose not to be an apologist for Israel's child killings in Palestine.

I do not justify the killing of children as you do because I am not a Zionist, justifying Israel's crimes against humanity is what Zionists like you do, but not me.

I do not enjoy killing children and watching Gentile children die, as you Zionists do.

And Jesus was never and is not a part of the Zionist child killing Klan.

Jesus was not and is not a Zionist.

He said not one single word about Jews returning to the land of Palestine, not one word.

Jesus loved children and loves children, He does not burn them to death in their homes with white phosphorous like you Zionists do.

He does not blow away little girls from a tank, like you Zionists do.

He does not steal and ethnically cleanse like you Zionists do.

And as for America, it is not owned by Zionists who want to kill children in Palestine and keep supporting such atrocities. Zionists like you do not speak for all Americans, such as me.

You know what Americans loyal to America and not loyal to Israel first like Zionists like you just did, we stopped wars in Syria and Iran and we stopped more sanctions, by thousands of Americans voicing their opposition to all of this to their Congressmen.

Israel does not control America, and if your loyalty remains with Israel first, I suggest you pack your bags and join the Zionist child killing Klan in Palestine.

As for human shields, the claims have been investigated by Amnesty and others and it has been found Israel uses civilians as human shields and Hamas does not.

You have no idea what you are speaking of when you say otherwise, you are watching too many MEMRI brainwashing propaganda videos.

Israel has a regular practice of rounding up little Palestinian children and other Palestinians, holding a gun to their heads and pushing them in front of soldiers as they smash down doors and walls of Palestinian homes looking for more Palestinians to imprison or maim or kill. Its reported on in Btselem, the matter has even been taken before Israel's Highest Court.

Hamas does not use civilians as human shields, that was Amnesty's findings in Cast Lead. You repeating the lie they do shall never change the truth and your lies shall always be lies .

And another point on human shields Amnesty made, even when one side uses civilians as human shields it does not justify the other side in targeting those civilians. So, your claim all the people killed by Israel, the killings were justified because civilians were being used as human shields, fails for two separate reasons, first Hamas does not use civilians as human shields, and second, even if they did, it does not justify Israel targeting the human shields.

The fact is in Cast Lead Israel killed about 1400 Palestinians, 344 were children and the majority of the 1400 killed were civilians not participating in the hostilities who were unlawfully targeted by Israel. Such targetings are war crimes.

Your further claims about Hamas dressing up like doctors and such is more Zionist lies.

Amnesty found Israel targeted ambulances trying to aid those Israel was bombing, hospitals, fleeing civilians, civilians holding white flags, schools, UN shelters, churches, mosques, houses, children walking to school and walking home from school, children in their homes, children playing outside, government buildings, police stations, police graduation ceremonies. Basically, any civilian and civilian object in Gaza was a target for Israel.

Well, there are some Americans who do not support Israel's crimes carried out in her over 45 year Occupation in Palestine.

We Americans of conscience let our voices be heard, as we also support the growing BDS Movement.

You have Androw on the ropes, Mrs. Hamas Jesus. Go for the throat and tell him what Jesus said about being a Zionist.

 

[toastman]

When you say if we were in the place of Israel we would have done far worse, you certainly do not speak for this American.

And I am not going to justify the massacre of 1519 children Israel carried out in Palestine, by saying we would have done worse.

I shall never be an apologist for defending Israel's war crimes as you are.

I am sorry but watching children deliberately burned to death with chemical weapons, as Israel did in Cast Lead, has no justification.

And over 45 years of ethnic cleansing and a brutal Occupation in Palestine has no justification.

A: It's fairly easy to make such claims when it's not your kids being blown up at a dance hall, or night club, going out on a date.

B: Welcome to being a part of society. America, this nation, would have done far worse than Israel. You are part of this country, and until you leave, it's your tax money funding it.

Second, I have personally seen the videos of Palestinian Arabs using their own children as human shields. I've watched it happen.

When a man with a gun, fires at soldiers, while hiding behind his own child... Israel didn't kill that child. His parents, killed that child.

And make no mistake, if you were to do the same thing, and I'm the soldier, I'm going home to my family, and if that means defending my life, by shooting you and your child you are using as a human shield.... that's your choice, your responsibility, and I'll go home and sleep like a baby.

As far as defending Israel war crimes....... your opinion of me doesn't matter to me in any possible way. If I ever gave you the impression that it does, I do apologize. Allow me to be crystal clear.... I have lint in my clothes drier, that has a higher value to me, than your opinion of me.

As for the Gaza War... again, Israel was hit by rockets. There was no justification for that. That was what caused Israel to respond with military force.

Similarly, if Mexico was firing rockets into the US, we also would respond with extreme military force.

War, itself, is horror. I hate war. I hate killing people. But like I said before, if you are shooting at me, I'm going to shoot back. I'm going home. If that means causing you to not go home, then so be it.

War is hell. Don't fire rockets into Israel. I have yet to see any time in which, Israel woke up one day and said "You know... let's launch a massive military attack into somewhere nearby, and cause people around the world to hate us".

No, Hamas fired rockets into Israel, and Israel had a far more muted response, than what we in the US would do if we were in the same place.

And lastly, about those civilians killed in the war.

Again, if Mexico was firing rockets into the US, we'd invade or worse, and a can promise you civilians would die... why? Because war is horror. Stuff happens. Why you would expect perfection in military operations by Israel, when no other military on the planet can do that, is ridiculous.

And further, did you read what Hamas did in Gaza? They intentionally setup their citizens to get killed. Hamas fighters intentionally dressed as students. Dressed as doctors and nurses. They intentionally blended with unarmed non-combatants.

Let me put it another way. If you were to hold up in some hole somewhere, and the only way to get you out of that hole, is to chuck a phosphorus grenade in and burn you out.... then that's what I'm going to do. If you stuff children in front of you, so that the grenade is going to kill them in the process.... then *YOU* killed those children. It was your choice, not mine, that got them killed.

I have no choice in the matter, because if I don't deal with you, and you pop out and kill my friends, and neighbors, their blood is on my head because I failed to deal with a known threat.

Instead of blaming people for actions in the horrors of war, here's a thought.... don't start a war. Don't fire rockets at nearby countries. How crazy is that?

It is easy for me no matter the circumstances to choose not to be an apologist for Israel's child killings in Palestine.

I do not justify the killing of children as you do because I am not a Zionist, justifying Israel's crimes against humanity is what Zionists like you do, but not me.

I do not enjoy killing children and watching Gentile children die, as you Zionists do.

And Jesus was never and is not a part of the Zionist child killing Klan.

Jesus was not and is not a Zionist.

He said not one single word about Jews returning to the land of Palestine, not one word.

Jesus loved children and loves children, He does not burn them to death in their homes with white phosphorous like you Zionists do.

He does not blow away little girls from a tank, like you Zionists do.

He does not steal and ethnically cleanse like you Zionists do.

And as for America, it is not owned by Zionists who want to kill children in Palestine and keep supporting such atrocities. Zionists like you do not speak for all Americans, such as me.

You know what Americans loyal to America and not loyal to Israel first like Zionists like you just did, we stopped wars in Syria and Iran and we stopped more sanctions, by thousands of Americans voicing their opposition to all of this to their Congressmen.

Israel does not control America, and if your loyalty remains with Israel first, I suggest you pack your bags and join the Zionist child killing Klan in Palestine.

As for human shields, the claims have been investigated by Amnesty and others and it has been found Israel uses civilians as human shields and Hamas does not.

You have no idea what you are speaking of when you say otherwise, you are watching too many MEMRI brainwashing propaganda videos.

Israel has a regular practice of rounding up little Palestinian children and other Palestinians, holding a gun to their heads and pushing them in front of soldiers as they smash down doors and walls of Palestinian homes looking for more Palestinians to imprison or maim or kill. Its reported on in Btselem, the matter has even been taken before Israel's Highest Court.

Hamas does not use civilians as human shields, that was Amnesty's findings in Cast Lead. You repeating the lie they do shall never change the truth and your lies shall always be lies .

And another point on human shields Amnesty made, even when one side uses civilians as human shields it does not justify the other side in targeting those civilians. So, your claim all the people killed by Israel, the killings were justified because civilians were being used as human shields, fails for two separate reasons, first Hamas does not use civilians as human shields, and second, even if they did, it does not justify Israel targeting the human shields.

The fact is in Cast Lead Israel killed about 1400 Palestinians, 344 were children and the majority of the 1400 killed were civilians not participating in the hostilities who were unlawfully targeted by Israel. Such targetings are war crimes.

Your further claims about Hamas dressing up like doctors and such is more Zionist lies.

Amnesty found Israel targeted ambulances trying to aid those Israel was bombing, hospitals, fleeing civilians, civilians holding white flags, schools, UN shelters, churches, mosques, houses, children walking to school and walking home from school, children in their homes, children playing outside, government buildings, police stations, police graduation ceremonies. Basically, any civilian and civilian object in Gaza was a target for Israel.

Well, there are some Americans who do not support Israel's crimes carried out in her over 45 year Occupation in Palestine.

We Americans of conscience let our voices be heard, as we also support the growing BDS Movement.

You certainly did a good job in justifying the Fogel massacre, you disgusting terrorist apologist.

BTW , what kind of a scumbag spends her entire day lying about Israel

 

[Hossfly]

This thread alone is evidence that is not true.

"Seeing Jesus in every person is a positive thing, something to strive for. "

And yet the sherrithing is completely unable to see Jesus in a single Zionist.......

Song about Jesus the Zionist.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owx3ao42kwI]"Jesus Loves Me" by Listener Kids - YouTube[/ame]

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

I now address some of The Old Testament verses about the land, and what is said about these promises in The Old Testament itself and The New Testament.

It is claimed by Zionists that the “Promised Land” was given by God to the Jewish people as an everlasting inheritance.

But this is simply not true.

The Scriptures repeatedly insist that the land belongs to God and that residence is always conditional.

Examples:

“‘The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you reside in my land as foreigners and strangers.” (Leviticus 25:23).


“Son of man, the people living in those ruins in the land of Israel are saying, ‘Abraham was only one man, yet he possessed the land. But we are many; surely the land has been given to us as our possession.’ Therefore say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you eat meat with the blood still in it and look to your idols and shed blood, should you then possess the land? You rely on your sword, you do detestable things... Should you then possess the land?’ … I will make the land a desolate waste, and her proud strength will come to an end.’ (Ezekiel 33:24-26,28-29)


Residence was open to all God’s people , and the basis was faith not race.

When we go to The New Testament, the writer of Hebrews explains that the land was never their ultimate desire or inheritance but a temporary residence until the coming of Jesus. Our shared eternal inheritance, for believers in Jesus, is heavenly not earthly.


Old Testament Command

“You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the foreigners residing among you and who have children. You are to consider them as native-born Israelites; along with you they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel.” (Ezekiel 47:21-23)


New Testament Explanation/Fulfillment

“By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God… These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.” (Hebrews 11:9-10; 39-40)

 

[MHunterB]

Why don't you soulless Zionists get it?

Israels killing of children is not justified because others kill children too.

And yet upthread you claimed Americans were terrorists for using the atom bomb on the Japs.

I would say that is certainly worse than anything Israel has ever done.

Unless you can point to a time when Israel turned tens of thousands of Muzzies into smoke in less than 1 second.

Sended fum muh iFoam usin sum magikl whitey ju-ju shit.

Ratty, that must've been another of the sherriliar's many personalities posting upthread....

Ah, so the pious l'il pustule presumes to judge Zionists as 'soulless' - proof that the sherrifilth isn't making the slightest attempt to 'follow Jesus' when a Zionist is involved.

 

[MHunterB]

“Son of man, the people living in those ruins in the land of Israel are saying, ‘Abraham was only one man, yet he possessed the land. But we are many; surely the land has been given to us as our possession.’ Therefore say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you eat meat with the blood still in it and look to your idols and shed blood, should you then possess the land? You rely on your sword, you do detestable things... Should you then possess the land?’ … I will make the land a desolate waste, and her proud strength will come to an end.’ (Ezekiel 33:24-26,28-29)

Of course, this quote proves the exact OPPOSITE of what the insane HAMAS-lover claims it does......

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

VERSE 1

"Jesus loves me! This I know,
For the Bible tells me so;
Little ones to Him belong,
They are weak but He is strong.'


Not a single solitary word of Jesus Loves Me says a word about Jesus being a Zionist.

Now, why do Zionists keep trying to turn One who is Love into a hater like themselves?

Is there not enough hate in the world already?

This thread alone is evidence that is not true.

"Seeing Jesus in every person is a positive thing, something to strive for. "

And yet the sherrithing is completely unable to see Jesus in a single Zionist.......

Song about Jesus the Zionist.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owx3ao42kwI]"Jesus Loves Me" by Listener Kids - YouTube[/ame]

 

[irosie91]

it should be noted that "look to your idols and shed blood" refers to the practice of
HUMAN SACRIFICE which plagued the land of canaan in ancient days and is still practiced by the refuse of arabia thuout the world

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

It shows the promises of the land were always conditional.

And it is an Old Testament verse fulfilled through Jesus coming, Jesus coming to give as an inheritance not physical land but eternal life in the kingdom of God.

“Son of man, the people living in those ruins in the land of Israel are saying, ‘Abraham was only one man, yet he possessed the land. But we are many; surely the land has been given to us as our possession.’ Therefore say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you eat meat with the blood still in it and look to your idols and shed blood, should you then possess the land? You rely on your sword, you do detestable things... Should you then possess the land?’ … I will make the land a desolate waste, and her proud strength will come to an end.’ (Ezekiel 33:24-26,28-29)

Of course, this quote proves the exact OPPOSITE of what the insane HAMAS-lover claims it does......

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

it should be noted that "look to your idols and shed blood" refers to the practice of
HUMAN SACRIFICE which plagued the land of canaan in ancient days and is still practiced by the refuse of arabia thuout the world

This is a verse in The Old Testament and Israelites are being addressed.

Are you claiming these Israelites being addressed participated in carrying out human sacrifices?

I do not think that is what those verses are addressing.

 

[Hossfly]

it should be noted that "look to your idols and shed blood" refers to the practice of
HUMAN SACRIFICE which plagued the land of canaan in ancient days and is still practiced by the refuse of arabia thuout the world

This is a verse in The Old Testament and Israelites are being addressed.

Are you claiming these Israelites being addressed participated in carrying out human sacrifices?

I do not think that is what those verses are addressing.

You're kidding, right? Yes it talks about human sacrifices. You flunk Bible school?

 

[toastman]

And here we read the Zionist God Androw give us his Zionist take on matters in the Middle East.

The problem is none of all that is what Jesus says is going to happen.

Jesus says believe in Him as Messiah or Israel will not see His face again.

Does Israel accept Jesus as Messiah? No

Here is the verse, Matthew 23:37-39 O Jerusalem Jerusalem the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings and you would not! See your house is left to you desolate For I tell you you will not see me again until you say Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.

And the Kingdom of God promised in The Old Testament was a Spiritual Kingdom fulfilled in Jesus, all promises of The Old Testament have been fulfilled.

See, Jesus says He, and Jesus is the Son of God and God, is not with Israel, until they accept Him as Messiah and they have not.

Again, your opinion of me isn't relevant to me in any possible way. Moving on.

So, yes Jesus did say all that will happen.

Also, you seem to be mingling statements by Christ about himself, verse separate unrelated prophesies.

Yes, Jesus said that Israel will not see his face again, until they repent and turn back to their messiah.

And indeed, that is prophesied in Revelations, that there will be a great turning of the Jews to Jesus in the last years before Jesus comes back to the Earth.

Now, what does that have to do with Zionism? Nothing. What does that have to do with Israel being on the land of Israel? Nothing.

One does not contradict, nor deny the other.

The promise that Israel will be regathered to the ancient land of Israel, is a separate promise, not contingent on anything else.

That promise written by Jesus, through the words of G-d given to the prophets, is just as valid as the one you specifically referred to. Both are true.

it should be noted that "look to your idols and shed blood" refers to the practice of
HUMAN SACRIFICE which plagued the land of canaan in ancient days and is still practiced by the refuse of arabia thuout the world

This is a verse in The Old Testament and Israelites are being addressed.

Are you claiming these Israelites being addressed participated in carrying out human sacrifices?

I do not think that is what those verses are addressing.

You're kidding, right? Yes it talks about human sacrifices. You flunk Bible school?

She flunked life

 

[aris2chat]

it should be noted that "look to your idols and shed blood" refers to the practice of
HUMAN SACRIFICE which plagued the land of canaan in ancient days and is still practiced by the refuse of arabia thuout the world

This is a verse in The Old Testament and Israelites are being addressed.

Are you claiming these Israelites being addressed participated in carrying out human sacrifices?

I do not think that is what those verses are addressing.

Do you not know Ezekiel spoke of the Babylonians that sacked the first temple?

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

it should be noted that "look to your idols and shed blood" refers to the practice of
HUMAN SACRIFICE which plagued the land of canaan in ancient days and is still practiced by the refuse of arabia thuout the world

This is a verse in The Old Testament and Israelites are being addressed.

Are you claiming these Israelites being addressed participated in carrying out human sacrifices?

I do not think that is what those verses are addressing.

You're kidding, right? Yes it talks about human sacrifices. You flunk Bible school?

So, you are claiming the Israelites are carrying out human sacrifices?

Is that your claim?

The fact is that is not what is written.

The word of the Lord comes to the Prophet Ezekiel and The Lord says to the Judeans in Judea , Israel, "You eat flesh with the blood and lift up your eyes to your idols and shed blood; shall you then possess the land?" This is not an accusation of human sacrifices being carried out.

The Lord goes on to say these Judeans doing this , as well as those relying on the sword to commit abominations will fall by the sword or be given to the beasts to be devoured or die by pestilence. And The Lord further says the land will be made a desolation and a waste.

The point: Bad acts led to the land being taken away.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

it should be noted that "look to your idols and shed blood" refers to the practice of
HUMAN SACRIFICE which plagued the land of canaan in ancient days and is still practiced by the refuse of arabia thuout the world

This is a verse in The Old Testament and Israelites are being addressed.

Are you claiming these Israelites being addressed participated in carrying out human sacrifices?

I do not think that is what those verses are addressing.

Do you not know Ezekiel spoke of the Babylonians that sacked the first temple?

In those verses, the Lord speaks to Judeans, read it for yourself. Ezekiel 33:27-33 entitled Jerusalem Struck Down.

I will post the verses.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Ezekiel 33:21-33

King James Version (KJV)

And it came to pass in the twelfth year of our captivity, in the tenth month, in the fifth day of the month, that one that had escaped out of Jerusalem came unto me, saying, The city is smitten.

Now the hand of the*Lord*was upon me in the evening, afore he that was escaped came; and had opened my mouth, until he came to me in the morning; and my mouth was opened, and I was no more dumb.

Then the word of the*Lord*came unto me, saying,

Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance.

Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord*God; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land?

Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land?

Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord*God; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.

For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through.

Then shall they know that I am the*Lord, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the*Lord.

And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.

Ezekiel 33:21-33 - Jerusalem?s Fall Explained - In the - Bible Gateway

 

[Hossfly]

Ezekiel 33:21-33

King James Version (KJV)

And it came to pass in the twelfth year of our captivity, in the tenth month, in the fifth day of the month, that one that had escaped out of Jerusalem came unto me, saying, The city is smitten.

Now the hand of the*Lord*was upon me in the evening, afore he that was escaped came; and had opened my mouth, until he came to me in the morning; and my mouth was opened, and I was no more dumb.

Then the word of the*Lord*came unto me, saying,

Son of man, they that inhabit those wastes of the land of Israel speak, saying, Abraham was one, and he inherited the land: but we are many; the land is given us for inheritance.

Wherefore say unto them, Thus saith the Lord*God; Ye eat with the blood, and lift up your eyes toward your idols, and shed blood: and shall ye possess the land?

Ye stand upon your sword, ye work abomination, and ye defile every one his neighbour's wife: and shall ye possess the land?

Say thou thus unto them, Thus saith the Lord*God; As I live, surely they that are in the wastes shall fall by the sword, and him that is in the open field will I give to the beasts to be devoured, and they that be in the forts and in the caves shall die of the pestilence.

For I will lay the land most desolate, and the pomp of her strength shall cease; and the mountains of Israel shall be desolate, that none shall pass through.

Then shall they know that I am the*Lord, when I have laid the land most desolate because of all their abominations which they have committed.

Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the*Lord.

And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.

Ezekiel 33:21-33 - Jerusalem?s Fall Explained - In the - Bible Gateway

Have you read that in Greek or Aramaic? How do you interpret that passage?