Everyone keeps saying what foreigners saw and thought of the attack on the Capitol but they leave out the most important thing.

What it showed was people who let others misinform them to the point that they became berserkers. Trump will never ever set foot into the White House or any bunch of the US as an elected official because he was the head of this misinformation, and the same goes for his cohorts in his crime.
Someone needs to kidnap ted Cruz. What is wrong with the people who vote in his district. They like him?

Stop that. You are better than that.

You don’t know him very well.
 
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?
Plenty.
But I will give you just one.
I can go online and question the result of any election in any country at any point in history.....except the U.S 2020 election.
Us liberals questioned the results in 2000, 2004 and even in 2016. We did not get our recounts. Diebold voting machines were hacked. And yet we didn’t storm the Florida recount in 2000. Oh wait, that was you guys.

Trump had exhausted all his options. If pence wouldn’t even go along, fuck off you lost.
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?

Don't feed.

You are mot a moderator, nor should you be, quit telling others what to do or think, if you don’t like, tough on you.
 
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?
Plenty.
But I will give you just one.
I can go online and question the result of any election in any country at any point in history.....except the U.S 2020 election.
Us liberals questioned the results in 2000, 2004 and even in 2016. We did not get our recounts. Diebold voting machines were hacked. And yet we didn’t storm the Florida recount in 2000. Oh wait, that was you guys.

Trump had exhausted all his options. If pence wouldn’t even go along, fuck off you lost.
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?

Don't feed.

You are mot a moderator, nor should you be, quit telling others what to do or think, if you don’t like, tough on you.

So was it you that went and created the new ID?
 
What it showed was people who let others misinform them to the point that they became berserkers. Trump will never ever set foot into the White House or any bunch of the US as an elected official because he was the head of this misinformation, and the same goes for his cohorts in his crime.
Someone needs to kidnap ted Cruz. What is wrong with the people who vote in his district. They like him?

Stop that. You are better than that.
Maybe I should have been more subtle like when trump got his supporters to try kidnapping my governor.

He didn’t tell them to try and kidnap her but he sure made her th3 bad guy during lockdowns. As if she was taking away our freedoms by closing businesses and making people wear masks.

She tried to make herself a little dictator, not that she deserved anything bad to happen to her. For her to tell people that they couldn’t shop for anything other than groceries at stores was plain moronic.

Even the Michigan Supreme Court believed she was misusing some of her powers.

Also, closing up businesses and making people wear masks IS taking away freedoms, the cause maybe justified however she is taking away freedoms.
 
What America thinks................

Now I understand the flaws of polls but a majority of American's blame Trump for what happened and say he should be removed.

After Capitol siege, majority of Americans say Trump should be removed from office before term ends: POLL

Is what American's think important?

 
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?
Plenty.
But I will give you just one.
I can go online and question the result of any election in any country at any point in history.....except the U.S 2020 election.
Us liberals questioned the results in 2000, 2004 and even in 2016. We did not get our recounts. Diebold voting machines were hacked. And yet we didn’t storm the Florida recount in 2000. Oh wait, that was you guys.

Trump had exhausted all his options. If pence wouldn’t even go along, fuck off you lost.
Look. We can go around in circles all day. Republicans were not asking for much. Just a full audit. It could have been done in 2 or 3 days, and you could have proved there was no fraud and the country moves on. But by refusing, even going to court to block the audit, you just set the scene for 4 years of division. Now 50% of the country doesnt see Biden as legit. He will never be able to go walkabouts, visit a car factory in Michigan, meet and greet etc without being harangued and ridiculed. The audit was the peacemaker, and that boat has sailed.

You could have let Jill Stein have her recount in 2016. You could have let florida complete the recount.

Biden won by so much you didn’t get to ask for an audit. And trump knew that audit would turn up nothing. But because you didn’t get your audit, you’ll say this is proof you were robbed.

And even if you got your audit that would do nothing because you are also claiming votes were thrown out and voting machines were rigged.

aYou exhausted all your options. You lost. You were never going to concede. We already know all your tactics because Rudy spilled the beans. aRudy was trumps worst enemy. With friends like Rudy, who needs enemies.

Wisconsin and Nevada had recounts and were completed. The state of Michigan found that Stein only garnered 1% of the vote, finished fourth in the state and so she had no standing, in accordance with Michigan law, if Clinton had asked for the recount, it would have happened, but Clinton did not pursue the recount. Hard to recount when you don’t ask.
 
The people spoke, a few of them took it too far and the world watched.

Including those who mock democracy. Problem is democracy is still standing and our government didn't have to kill everyone or imprison them for that to occur.

Was this situation acceptable? Of course not but at the end of the day our democracy is still standing.

Of course internally we are & will always squabble about the state of our democracy and many believe it to be dead already. Having that or any opinion of it doesn't make it so.

One final point for me is that it ultimately doesn't matter what some foreigner thinks or says. Their thoughts are not necessary for our prosperity. The sooner we realize that the better.

Democracy is still standing?

Excessive democracy is one of the primary reasons that every year the West is declining.

The founders would have certainly found the situation acceptable - and democracy unacceptable for that matter. Two people died in the unlawful activity... and this is supposedly a scandal after dozens and dozens have died in the summer riots, so insignificant that it was NOT EVEN REPORTED.

Regardless, I think a stolen election is a lot more serious threat to democracy than a protest - in fact it ends democracy. And in large part that was what was being protested...
 
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I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?
Plenty.
But I will give you just one.
I can go online and question the result of any election in any country at any point in history.....except the U.S 2020 election.
Us liberals questioned the results in 2000, 2004 and even in 2016. We did not get our recounts. Diebold voting machines were hacked. And yet we didn’t storm the Florida recount in 2000. Oh wait, that was you guys.

Trump had exhausted all his options. If pence wouldn’t even go along, fuck off you lost.
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?

Don't feed.

You are mot a moderator, nor should you be, quit telling others what to do or think, if you don’t like, tough on you.

So was it you that went and created the new ID?

What new ID? I don’t play those stupid little games like yourself, is telling you that you don’t get to decide what anyone gets to talk about, you have a voice on here but no power.
 
Foreigners are going to get a real taste of what America is all about when those Communist assholes in the filthy China Joe administration tries to take away our right to keep and bear arms.

They ain't seen nutin yet.
We're going to attack foreign countries if our administration attempts to take away our guns?

That makes sense to me.
 
What it showed was people who let others misinform them to the point that they became berserkers. Trump will never ever set foot into the White House or any bunch of the US as an elected official because he was the head of this misinformation, and the same goes for his cohorts in his crime.

what was the "misinformation" ----assboy?
Rigged voting machines, affidavits that were bogus, claiming votes were thrown out without proof. Every accusation turned up to be nothing.
They all turned out to be true. Then a decision was made to ignore them.
 
You know history? Wasn’t trumps coup attempt very similar to hitlers attempt in the 20s? Hitler went to jail for it and still was somehow able to take over ten years later. We shouldn’t downplay what he did. It was treason.

It's not treason to believe you were cheated and bitch about it on Twitter.
You are right. But to tell your supporters to storm the capitol and tell them weakness won’t do it?

And he fired them up by feeding them lies.

Trump doesn’t really believe the election was rigged. He was claiming 2016 was rigged too before it was over. No matter what trump was going to claim it was rigged if he lost.

No one action of trumps is treason by itself. Add it all up and it’s treason. From calling the ukraine president trying to get him to help him cheat, to calling the Georgia governor and asking him to help him cheat. It’s treason.

You guys worshipped a treason isn’t bastard. History will compare you with nazis

Try again. The person who claimed getting out in the street and RIOTING---vandalizing, murdering and looting FOR THE SAKE OF "PROGRESS" was kamala-hump. I am vainly
looking for information on the VANDALIZING and LOOTING of the
Capitol Building. I am horrified that a police officer got hit in the head and
later died-----but there seems to be a BLACKOUT on who done and how it
happened. I also wonder how many people died in the past week at the hands
BLM scum whilst kamala-hump cackled. I have no hope of ever finding this
information
That’s because what you said is the ramblings of a pathetic lunatic racist
T.
"That’s because what you said is the ramblings of a pathetic lunatic racist"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
to what issue or statement do you address this utterly non-specific
remark, booboo ???
You traitors try to pull a coup and you want to deflect to blm?
Fox told them to.... every show had a segment on this deflection to other riots with them claiming we ignored it, Yet....without FOX covering all the video on this seditionist riot and coup at our capitol..... :rolleyes-41:

Talk about hypocrites!
I was waiting for the women of the View to tell us how we should do things in this nasty mean world. Of course when it comes to pure socialism, they get a higher cut of the pies. Just one of the thousands and thousands of Prog shill programs on TV. Talk about people who make suckers of us while they live in mansions and live like the best in the world. If you kill them and the entertainers and the media as a gift to the Deplorables, many of us will then start to believe you. And they for their faith in the secular globalist Progressive Socialist State, will gladly give their lives up for that if true to it. Agree!
You don’t seem to mind trump and Mitch McConnell are rich
 
What it showed was people who let others misinform them to the point that they became berserkers. Trump will never ever set foot into the White House or any bunch of the US as an elected official because he was the head of this misinformation, and the same goes for his cohorts in his crime.

what was the "misinformation" ----assboy?
Rigged voting machines, affidavits that were bogus, claiming votes were thrown out without proof. Every accusation turned up to be nothing.
They all turned out to be true. Then a decision was made to ignore them.
These things were true if talking about the 2000 election.

None of your evidence was true and people who signed sworn affidavits saw nothing they can prove. Maybe we should wait tI’ll each of their silly claims have been thoroughly investigated.

Forget the fact nothing you say is true. We know so much about your plot to pull a coup because idiot Rudy went on fox and told the whole plan. The trump regime is a catastrophe
 
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?
Plenty.
But I will give you just one.
I can go online and question the result of any election in any country at any point in history.....except the U.S 2020 election.
Us liberals questioned the results in 2000, 2004 and even in 2016. We did not get our recounts. Diebold voting machines were hacked. And yet we didn’t storm the Florida recount in 2000. Oh wait, that was you guys.

Trump had exhausted all his options. If pence wouldn’t even go along, fuck off you lost.
Look. We can go around in circles all day. Republicans were not asking for much. Just a full audit. It could have been done in 2 or 3 days, and you could have proved there was no fraud and the country moves on. But by refusing, even going to court to block the audit, you just set the scene for 4 years of division. Now 50% of the country doesnt see Biden as legit. He will never be able to go walkabouts, visit a car factory in Michigan, meet and greet etc without being harangued and ridiculed. The audit was the peacemaker, and that boat has sailed.
Wait a second! In 2015 trump said he would release his taxes after an audit and that it wouldn’t take long. 4 years later that audit isn’t done.

Trump tried every tactic he could to delay delay delay. He wanted it to go to the Supreme Court where they would give him the election. Or have it come down to a 50 vote house vote.Or have a redo in AZ, GA, MI, WI and PA.

We already know your entire gameplan because Rudy went on fox and told us. He was an idiot
He said he would release his tax audit when Hillary reveals her emails.
The electoral audit would have taken 2-3 days and been a peacemaker. That the Dems fought to stop it was foolosh. They have the blood from the Capital on their hands. Not Trump.
Every other pperson ever to run as president released their taxes. This move by trump was calculated. He saw you would support him even if he didn’t release his taxes.

Let me ask you a question. Should we stop asking to see candidates taxes? You guys seemed awfully interested in going through Obama’s taxes and al gores. Probably how you found out gore owns 5 houses.
 
What it showed was people who let others misinform them to the point that they became berserkers. Trump will never ever set foot into the White House or any bunch of the US as an elected official because he was the head of this misinformation, and the same goes for his cohorts in his crime.
When speaking the truth is a "crime" then it's criminals who are making the rules.

Maybe you should extract your head from your ass so you can see things in a more clear way?
Speaking the truth is never a crime. I find it funny trump and Rudy never said dominion voting machines were rigged after the company threatened to sue them for liable and slander. That speaks volumes. They stopped making that claim as soon as they could be held accountable.

Georgia, Michigan, AZ, PA and WI should sue trump too. And the court should charge him for frivolous lawsuits.
 
I'm a foreigner.
I think the election was stolen. Sure of it.
I think the U.S has been commandeered by oligarchs and big corporations working with corrupt politiicians.
I think the reaction to what basically is a coup has been extremely tame (broken window, door panel).
I think America is now one of the most draconian countries in the western world. Your freedom is gone. Free speech is gone. Democracy is gone.
And with what proof do you base your conclusions?
Plenty.
But I will give you just one.
I can go online and question the result of any election in any country at any point in history.....except the U.S 2020 election.
Us liberals questioned the results in 2000, 2004 and even in 2016. We did not get our recounts. Diebold voting machines were hacked. And yet we didn’t storm the Florida recount in 2000. Oh wait, that was you guys.

Trump had exhausted all his options. If pence wouldn’t even go along, fuck off you lost.
Look. We can go around in circles all day. Republicans were not asking for much. Just a full audit. It could have been done in 2 or 3 days, and you could have proved there was no fraud and the country moves on. But by refusing, even going to court to block the audit, you just set the scene for 4 years of division. Now 50% of the country doesnt see Biden as legit. He will never be able to go walkabouts, visit a car factory in Michigan, meet and greet etc without being harangued and ridiculed. The audit was the peacemaker, and that boat has sailed.
Wait a second! In 2015 trump said he would release his taxes after an audit and that it wouldn’t take long. 4 years later that audit isn’t done.

Trump tried every tactic he could to delay delay delay. He wanted it to go to the Supreme Court where they would give him the election. Or have it come down to a 50 vote house vote.Or have a redo in AZ, GA, MI, WI and PA.

We already know your entire gameplan because Rudy went on fox and told us. He was an idiot
He said he would release his tax audit when Hillary reveals her emails.
The electoral audit would have taken 2-3 days and been a peacemaker. That the Dems fought to stop it was foolosh. They have the blood from the Capital on their hands. Not Trump.
Every other pperson ever to run as president released their taxes. This move by trump was calculated. He saw you would support him even if he didn’t release his taxes.

Let me ask you a question. Should we stop asking to see candidates taxes? You guys seemed awfully interested in going through Obama’s taxes and al gores. Probably how you found out gore owns 5 houses.
Yes. I personally have never seen any candidates tax returns. It is highly doubtful that internet examiners are going to find anything the IRS auditors missed.
 
Speaking the truth is never a crime. I find it funny trump and Rudy never said dominion voting machines were rigged after the company threatened to sue them for liable and slander. That speaks volumes. They stopped making that claim as soon as they could be held accountable.

Georgia, Michigan, AZ, PA and WI should sue trump too. And the court should charge him for frivolous lawsuits.
It's even funnier you think that your imagined claims count for anything. I know for a fact that Giuliani was
still blasting Dominion while the Georgia legislators were taking up the issue of fraud in Georgia.
You guys just say whatever you think you need to say without regard to facts at all.
You're pathetic. Drop dead, clown.
 
The people spoke, a few of them took it too far and the world watched.

Including those who mock democracy. Problem is democracy is still standing and our government didn't have to kill everyone or imprison them for that to occur.

Was this situation acceptable? Of course not but at the end of the day our democracy is still standing.

Of course internally we are & will always squabble about the state of our democracy and many believe it to be dead already. Having that or any opinion of it doesn't make it so.

One final point for me is that it ultimately doesn't matter what some foreigner thinks or says. Their thoughts are not necessary for our prosperity. The sooner we realize that the better.

Well. Our Republic...ahem...is in grave danger. What we're witnessng is a patently Marxist revolution. Representatives sent by most states are grossly incompetent and lack any intellectual understanding of the traditional American system of governance or even a remedial understanding of our founding documents. Oaths are effectively moot in that regard.

Placing that aside, I'm confident that anyone who watched that circus go down knows in the back of their minds that those people who took part in it aren't the people the establishment is worried about.

If there really ever is a showdown in this country, it won't be led by some cartoon character in a viking costume. Those folks were playing the role of useful idiot. And congress loves them for it. Foreign nations, particularly their leaders and government bodies, are intelligent enough to see what really went down on that day.
You are what’s wrong with America. Our republic is in grave dangwr? What the fuck is wrong with you. You just lost an election. You had your way for 4 years. Relax. You obstructed the previous four years. What, is Obamacare really that bad?

Black people are the only ones who should be complaining. Until corona, I thought trump made America great again. Now you say it’s falling apart? You want to secede? Why? Because of gay marriage, common sense gun and healthcare regulations?

Arent the rich richer than ever? The people who control you through fox and rush Limbaugh are doing great? I’m doing great. Aren’t you?

Trump really got you worked up. Storming capitols? Kidnapping governors? Even half your party knows your kooks but they want your vote.

Ted Cruz is on your side. His father helped assassinate Kennedy and he’s not even an american. He’s Canadian. In Texas. What scumbag he must represent.
 
Speaking the truth is never a crime. I find it funny trump and Rudy never said dominion voting machines were rigged after the company threatened to sue them for liable and slander. That speaks volumes. They stopped making that claim as soon as they could be held accountable.

Georgia, Michigan, AZ, PA and WI should sue trump too. And the court should charge him for frivolous lawsuits.
It's even funnier you think that your imagined claims count for anything. I know for a fact that Giuliani was
still blasting Dominion while the Georgia legislators were taking up the issue of fraud in Georgia.
You guys just say whatever you think you need to say without regard to facts at all.
You're pathetic. Drop dead, clown.
Nope. Rudy and trump never once said the name dominion again after they were threatened with slander and liable.

That lawsuit is probably still coming. Dom8nion should sue trump.
 
The people spoke, a few of them took it too far and the world watched.

Including those who mock democracy. Problem is democracy is still standing and our government didn't have to kill everyone or imprison them for that to occur.

Was this situation acceptable? Of course not but at the end of the day our democracy is still standing.

Of course internally we are & will always squabble about the state of our democracy and many believe it to be dead already. Having that or any opinion of it doesn't make it so.

One final point for me is that it ultimately doesn't matter what some foreigner thinks or says. Their thoughts are not necessary for our prosperity. The sooner we realize that the better.

As long as fascists are allowed to continue marauding accross the countryside, the republic is still in grave danger. They need to be wiped out
 

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